to be honest they both felt basically the same to me, except jellyfin doesn't force me to authenticate to somebody else's computer to view my own media library
if you need to transcode media using hardware acceleration plex requires you to become a paypig and buy a loisence whereas jellyfin will provide you that feature for free because it is an open source project
the real problem with plex is what
>making an account on plex servers to use your private server
literal botnet. I use jellyfin.
described. in order to use your plex server you first need to authenticate to plex's servers. there is no reason this needs to happen.
not to mention they've been banning people lately for sharing their servers with people (check the r*ddit, many such cases).
Plex recently also sent a takedown notice to github for a repository hosting a reshare feature that could allow plex shares to be browsable over the internet which might "grow piracy"
nobody should be using plex they hate their userbase and are becoming increasingly anti-piracy. give jellyfin a try it's just as easy to use and given the way plex is shitting their service up you'll be using it eventually one way or another.
different anon here i wonder what you think about my post here
i tried jellyfin and it just did not work anywhere near as well as plex. perhaps its skill issue but plex justwerks. the people ive invited are tech illiterate so its annoying trying to troubleshoot over the phone giving them instructions. with plex they just press play. the end. most of them use smart tv apps and apparently the jellyfin app for smart tvs is horrid
EVERYONE on this website keeps telling me to use jellyfin but its just nowhere as easy to use imo and like i said it wasnt working as well as plex both for me as the host and for my friends on their jellyfin smart tv apps. should i give it another go? even the hardware transcoding you're talking about i couldnt get to work
Jellyfin's interface and client support is worse. I assume you're using windows. What gpu/igpu do you have?
As for smart tv's there are 3rd party players and you can just use jellyfin to browse. Kodi is also an option. Android tv based smart tv's are usually the best ones for jellyfin, or otherwise some tv stick you can plug in.
It is true plex has been cracking down on bigger shares, which doesn't bode well obviously. Some of the bigger shares have switched to jellyfin successfully.
You can try asking on
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if you're having other issues with jellyfin, however they will likely recommend some flavor of Linux for a server OS (and they're mostly right, windows is a pain to run 24/7). OMV may be a good place to start for a beginner. Also try jellyseerr/overseerr for your friends.
>years ago , was in a plex thread on Cinemaphile >thinking of getting into it >ask an anon for an invite to his plex server >this homie has every kino ever made, constantly adds new and old things alike
kek i dont even know this mans name but he's been my kino contact ever since. thanks again anon!
You can request stuff from him with jellyseerr/overseerr
redpill me on stremio/sonarr
Stremio with real debrid works great
It's good for mainstream shit most of the time.
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>I assume you're using windows. What gpu/igpu do you have?
im currently running plex on linux on a dedicated machine. when i tried jellyfin i was running it (and plex) from my main desktop which uses windows. they used the official jellyfin app for smart tvs. one has a roku/tcl tv the other has a samsung tv and both said their smart tv apps were shit and barely functional . and i couldnt get hardware transcoding to work correctly even just for myself
All dependent on the client. Jellyfin technically has both just like plex.
>I assume you're using windows. What gpu/igpu do you have?
im currently running plex on linux on a dedicated machine. when i tried jellyfin i was running it (and plex) from my main desktop which uses windows. they used the official jellyfin app for smart tvs. one has a roku/tcl tv the other has a samsung tv and both said their smart tv apps were shit and barely functional . and i couldnt get hardware transcoding to work correctly even just for myself
You could try jellyfin on the dedicated machine and see how you like it. No reason you can't use both for awhile (or even indefinitely). But the client issue will likely persist unless you want to shell out for a TV stick (which tbf are not that expensive compared to set top boxes).
2 weeks ago
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>But the client issue will likely persist unless you want to shell out for a TV stick (which tbf are not that expensive compared to set top boxes).
I use my computer or my phone and both work fine with Plex. Their TVs work fine with Plex so I'm just gonna leave it at that for now. I don't remember if I tried jellyfin on my phone but I did on my computer and like I said I couldn't get hardware transcoding to work. I think general playback worked.
is the shield better or worse than the steam deck.
nVidia Shield is great solution to solve the Plex transcoding issue and has better upscaling then the Apple TV 4K. However, when I was building my kinostation they were expensive and hard to find compared to ATV. Also, Apple TV 4K beats anything else on UI and it seems to be far superior as a client for Netflix and other streaming services due to much better clients and Apple having their own servers for media streaming.
I use jellyfin but the file completely breaks and becomes unplayable if i fast-forward or anything like that and only restarting and watching it from the beginning works, even restarting the server does nothing.
How often does this occur? I’d lose my shit if I torrented something that took days only for the file to be corrupted. I keep everything in an external and just drag drop them into MPV when I want to watch something.
I think if you can't pipe the quality of the original file through it starts reencoding and using up disk space on your server, so you may be running out of space.
i tried jellyfin and it just did not work anywhere near as well as plex. perhaps its skill issue but plex justwerks. the people ive invited are tech illiterate so its annoying trying to troubleshoot over the phone giving them instructions. with plex they just press play. the end. most of them use smart tv apps and apparently the jellyfin app for smart tvs is horrid
Pretty good, thanks. At one point I considered telling my parents about it but decided I didn't want the hassle of being asked to add things.
Also checked.
I gave Jellyfin a shot, but their roku app blows. Google TV isn't much better.
It's not unusable, though I haven't experimented with HDR/DV content, it's just woefully unpolished compared to Plex. Having said that, I know mission creep is going to kill Plex eventually and I'll have to switch. Hopefully when that day comes, Jellyfin looks better.
That's fair. Hdr should work, but for dv you may have to use a 3rd party player. I recommend novaplayer or justplayer (you can launch them from jellyfin).
It's not unusable, though I haven't experimented with HDR/DV content, it's just woefully unpolished compared to Plex. Having said that, I know mission creep is going to kill Plex eventually and I'll have to switch. Hopefully when that day comes, Jellyfin looks better.
HDR/DV content doesnt work when you transcode from HEVC to x264 for whatever reason. Only works when you direct play HEVC. So if you're going to use it you need a device that supports HEVC / x265, which is a lot of them anyway but its good to be sure.
2 weeks ago
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>HDR/DV content doesnt work when you transcode from HEVC to x264 for whatever reason
That's because h.264 itself doesn't support hdr/dv. Dv might not work with transcoding to h.265/hevc (it will tonemap), but I believe hdr should.
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ah fair enough i didnt know x264 doesnt support transcoding. I try and get as much in x265 anyway because it is more efficient and gives a better image per GB. Great for downloading 7-10GB releases for streaming without comprimsing too much in visual quality. I struggle to see the difference between a 10gb x265 release and a 30gb x264 release.
i find the jellyfin apps are a lot more hardware dependant for how smooth they run. The one on my LG TV is sluggish as frick, but i have it on my Amazon firestick and it runs smoothly. Its mostly because at the moment the jellyfin app is just a wrapper for a webpage basically. It isnt optimized to be ran on low end hardware and is basically loading a heavy ass web page on the TV's web browser.
>I didn't want the hassle of being asked to add things.
just use overseer + radarr. I have a dozen people using my server and the only time I ever have to do anything manually is when TV shows frick up.
Does Overseer handle the remote access and plug straight in to plex? I want to try jellyseer but im not sure if i have to set up a new page on my domain on my webpage for it or if it plugs straight in to jellyfin.
not sure if this is what you're asking, but for accessing it externally you'd need a subdomain or subdirectory just like any other web service. I use cloudflare zero trust to access all my services.
>accessing it externally you'd need a subdomain or subdirectory just like any other web service
yeah thats what im asking. I meant does overseer function as a plugin for plex that runs on the plex web page/domain or do you need to set up a subdomain? Surely i can just set up radarr directly as a subdomain though and allow people to download stuff using that? Whats the point in using overseer at all then? The ideal would be if the user could search a film within the plex/jellyfin app and then it automatically got added to the library via radarr. That is what i'd thought overseer would do but if you need to create a subdomain it just seems to be the same as radarr but in a different skin. Am i missing something here?
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giving people direct access to radarr gives them the ability to do a lot of things that you might not want them to do, such as delete movies, request hundreds of them, or download everything in 4k. overseerr also handles movie and tv requests together, then sends them to radarr and sonarr respectively, and supports login via plex.
you actually can automatically import people's plex watchlists into radarr, so that's probably the solution you're looking for. the only downside is it only checks the watchlists every 12 hours or so.
Half of my shit freezes in jellyfin. How do I improve performance? I'm literally running it on what used to be a high end gaming computer like three years ago, rtx 3080, 5900x
enable hardware transcoding. Bro your rig is powerful enough to transcode like 5 4k streams at once. it could also be the application. Get a higher end firestick or equivilent so there is no hardware bottleneck on the TV side. The CPUs and hardware in TVs is dogshit and everything runs slow on them.
>Sometimes it freezes when playing on the actual pc itself
Could be any number of things then. What player are you using on your PC? >Usually my phone or a roku tv
Roku tv sucks. What phone do you have?
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GIVE ME LIST OF MOVIES TO DOWNLOAD OR I POST BASKINCONTENT
Se7en (1995)
Deja Vu (2006)
In Bruges (2008)
Phone Booth (2001)
10 Cloverfield Lane (2016)
Panic Room (2002)
District 9 (2009)
Waiting... (2005)
The Beach (2000)
but what happens when the servers go all gay and it doesn't load anything for an hour? you need backup movies and TV. also you should have high quality versions of your favorite films.
>1384 Movies. >114 TV Shows.
Yet it's still only 8TB which is weird. Like someone else mentioned in the thread I just use PLEX because its an easy app that anyone can use, primarily it's just to watch stuff on my TV's in bedroom and living room since my PC is in my office/study room. But brother and sis use it too.
it's for people who live normal lives with a house and a family and don't watch everything on their computer, sometimes my wife and I want to watch plex on the living room tv, what am I gonna do? unplug my pc and take it all the way to the living room and hook it up to an hdmi?
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I don't even own a TV anymore and don't know many people that do.
You can literally stream content over wifi to most android TVs
It just works.
Windows media player supports and it works.
Can also do it using vlc.
Alternatively you can setup a network folder and access it from your tv using a media app on your android tv.
This is also possible on Linux.
>hey hun wanna watch a movie? >sure what do you wanna watch? >Goodfellas! >ok let me just go into my mancave(used to be the basement), find my SSD with the movies on, turn on my PC, connect to the TV per wifi and there you go >... >hmm I can't see the setting on your TV that I need >... >what do you mean you don't have an android TV? your TV is like a year and a half too old? ah ok no problem I'll just take the SSD itself and plug it into the TV no biggie we'll play it from there. >... >there we go, its all plugged in and ready to go. just let me navigate to the folder.. yeah there it is sorted alphabetically, g, goodfellas, got it >... >hmm I don't know why its not working. looks like your TV doesn't like the file format the movie is in >... >yea let me just google your TV so I can see what formats it plays... ah ok, it says MP4 but that's like a container format meaning I don't really know which MP4s it actually plays and which it wont until we try, also the same issue will probably happen with the audio codecs and we won't have sound on some videos. but hey, subtitles exist amirite? >...
And all of that while you're kneeling in front of her TV with your fat asscrack peaking out of your carhartt cargo shorts.
it's for people who live normal lives with a house and a family and don't watch everything on their computer, sometimes my wife and I want to watch plex on the living room tv, what am I gonna do? unplug my pc and take it all the way to the living room and hook it up to an hdmi?
Dude, people just leave TVs behind when they move these days. No one has cable anymore. Fewer and fewer people own a TV every year. Especially now that even jobs and schools are giving out laptops and tablets for zoom calls, TVs just aren't going to really be a thing once Gen X dies off and Alpha grows up.
>Fewer and fewer people own a TV every year.
Got any data or studies to back that up, guy?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
https://gitnux.org/television-ownership-statistics/#:~:text=Television%20ownership%20in%20the%20United%20States%20has%20increased%20over%20the,over%2096%25%20as%20of%202021. >In 2020, 96% of the US households owned at least one television set.
Turns out he is just talking out of his ass. "I don't know anyone who owns a TV"--lol. 96% of households own a tv.
2 weeks ago
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My techie coworkers thought I was weird for not owning a TV.
Dude, people just leave TVs behind when they move these days. No one has cable anymore. Fewer and fewer people own a TV every year. Especially now that even jobs and schools are giving out laptops and tablets for zoom calls, TVs just aren't going to really be a thing once Gen X dies off and Alpha grows up.
K. And? You can access Plex from any device. I can watch kino on my steam deck, my phone, or anything else with an internet connection from anywhere.
Also, it remembers you last played locations for you. And if you've finished a film. So its really good for helping clear your backlog. Plus it will automatically fetch subs for you.
im the only person in my group of friends who is smart enough to torrent. i use plex so my friends can watch my pirated kino without me having to physically go to their house with shit on a flash drive or portable drive which is how its often been. they used to not care and just use streaming services but in recent years prices have gone up, content keeps getting removed, and ads keep getting added.
When you have others in your house and multiple devices? My wife can watch her shitty HBO dramas while my son watches Paw Patrol, while I sort my vast kino collection by director, or by actor, or by any other metadata I want
if you have people to share the media with especially if theyre tech moronic its an easy way to let them watfch your pirated kino. if youre the only person watching what you download yea i guess its unnecessary
>Unnecessary
People say this like its a big hassle. It takes 10 minutes to install Plex and then it just werks. It is incredibly rare I have to manually fix a match or fiddle with naming schemes. It recognizes almost everything I just dump in my kino folder with their moronic torrent names like xXx_yify_720p_Dances_With_Wolves_release_ENG.mpv
im a plex enjoyer but it depends on what kind of person you are. i only began using plex recently and like i said before i just watched shit on my computer because i was the only one watching shit. since i want to share with friends i set up plex. otherwise i wouldnt really need it besides to see a GUI of all my shit. MPC-HC and double clicking the files plays the media and can do pretty much anything play-wise that plex or any media player can do you just dont get the nice looking organized library with pictures and shit
watching stuff on TV is a different vibe than watching on a computer. Seinfeld just doesn't work unless you're 3 feet away from the screen and can barely hear it over other people yammering and arguing
>watching stuff on TV is a different vibe than watching on a computer.
not that anon but my 4K 60HZ tv is my main display for my pc so when i watch something full screen theres no difference to if i were watching it on a streaming service
bretty well actually. >crush
i dont have one. i barely leave my house so i dont know any girls. but i invited my cousin and one of my homies shits going great so far! im gonna download all the kinos!
>years ago , was in a plex thread on Cinemaphile >thinking of getting into it >ask an anon for an invite to his plex server >this homie has every kino ever made, constantly adds new and old things alike
kek i dont even know this mans name but he's been my kino contact ever since. thanks again anon!
Yes, NAS 4 bay RAID5 with hard ethernet to router running GlueTUN / qbitorrent /sabnzb in containers and dumping the downloads into the Plex folders. Then Plex app on the TV.
Its been a while since I set it up now but it was Synology DS918+ / 4 x 8TB Seagate disks / 1 x 512MB SSD for caching. Probably about £800 in total but that was before inflation and there are cheaper setups
I do. The only issues I've run into is buffering when I tried to turn on subtitles once, and I'm having to do the Plex dance every time I want to add new files, but I'm trying to chase that down.
It's been great. I share it to one of my friends and he's had no issues. Only thing I hate is how old cartoons apparently must be split up into two episodes even though that doesn't make any sense. I manually edit the Plex metadata for the full 2-titlecard episodes.
How do you manually edit the metadata per episode like that? Plex fricks up modern cartoons also like Paw Patrol also.
All on the web app. After I have Plex scan for new media I edit each episode and lock the data. Huge pain in the ass but worth it. Plex's multi-episode implementation is fricking moronic.
i havent had to frick with metadata too much but i do engage in subtitle autism and by that i mean either placing subtitles in main directory with the movie/episodes so it auto detects. sometimes i have to movie srt to the movie folder but also rename it to match the movie/episode
Oh, you manually edit each title. I didn't think of doing that. I keep trying to find a way to "Fix Match" for an episode, but you can't, which is fricking annoying.
>I'm connected to my local server. It updates its metadata.
nice, I won't use plex after it got breached a while back. figured with all the people talking about it, it's been breached again, or will be.
It's been great. I share it to one of my friends and he's had no issues. Only thing I hate is how old cartoons apparently must be split up into two episodes even though that doesn't make any sense. I manually edit the Plex metadata for the full 2-titlecard episodes.
>Adds shitty "Recommended" tab for all your libraries so they can nudge you into watching what they want you to watch >Adds ability to change default tab >Doesn't actually change anything >Still defaults to "Recommended" >Because they must influence your media consumption
bros what is the most obscure or otherwise hard to obtain movie or show you have on your plex? i just got hold of some random 2 season sitcom from 2006 i remember watching sometimes when it was on tv. shit had no seeders so im shocked it downloaded
To Catch A Predator DVD rip. I dug into every private tracker and Usenet indexer I could find, and they all had a super shitty low quality version of the episodes (like 240p low quality). So I bought the dvd set off ebay, bought a dvd drive for my PC, and ripped them myself.
im almost considering buying Locked Up Abroad (Banged Up Abroad for any brits here) on dvd because i cant find any good torrents that just give me all the episodes. i have a torrent fully dowlnload but its only 4 seasons out of like 15 and the episode order/metadata is incorrect.
this was the film I had the hardest time finding. the search wasn't worth it
>the search wasn't worth it
iktf. hopefully you had fun on the journey
but according to letterboxd, this is my least popular film, followed by Hitler: The Unknown Soldier 1914-1918, From Day to Night, Hyohyo: Dear Mr. Yasuo Otsuka, Tkies khaf, The Lambeth Walk, The Word and the Light, Robert and Bertram, U-Boat, Course West!, and Hijacked to Hell before finally getting to Children Are Not Afraid...
I collect VHS rips of MTV and other broadcasts not available on video, including commercials. Most of them get yeeted off archive sites eventually so I have a ton of stuff that's just gone.
Archive.org is the easiest place to start. There is tons of uploads of various quality and length but most will disappear eventually. The 80's and early 90's commercials are super cool, especially local ones. It's fun to discover obscure, weird things that nobody knows about that aren't on YouTube and have been memory-holed.
Just the other day I discovered the original edit of a music video by Was Not Was (the Walk the Dinosaur band) that was creepy as frick and was about racism, rape, and child abuse but for some fricked up reason they put actual happy kids in it clapping and jumping with the band not knowing what they were dancing to. You can't find that version of the video on YT.
nice. I fricked up when I bought my rack and didn't check the dimensions. Not adjustable either; I think this one is meant for audio equipment. So I won't be getting a JBOD anytime soon and have to settle for measly 15-wide disk array enclosures.
>nice. I fricked up when I bought my rack and didn't check the dimension
Those things are ridiculously overpriced for what they are. I think it's Ikea that used to (or still does) make a piece of furniture that's perfect for a minirack, that nerds were just adding the rails to. Perfect for a media server. Dunno which specific item it is but maybe look into that.
not a pre-built, the case is a Rosewill RSV-Z3100U I got from newegg. I got it specifically because I had an extra standard PSU I didn't want to throw away
The bottom is just an enclosure for the hard drives (Dell EMC KTN-STL3) that's hooked to the server with a SAS cable
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I have a giant heavy steel Rosewill RSV-R4000 to house a teeny tiny mATX board with integrated fanless celeron processor to run my Plex server and house the drives. It's nice to be able to use old PSU and the big case for airflow with larger quieter case fans.
Is there a service like Plex that lets you put queue things up like a tv station, maybe even with ads? I want my son to have the proper cartoon viewing experience.
>setup a plex server JUST for my dad because I know he likes to unwind and watch new kinos >put thousands of movies on it, some of his favorites in 4k! >show him how to use a web interface so he can download ANY MOVIE he wants to watch on my server >tell him I can put ANY movie he wants to watch all he has to do is call or text me (ploy to get him to call and talk to me more) >doesn't use it all, never asks for movies, just sticks to Netflix and Amazon prime >give out access to friends >they don't use it either
Just going to sell my server at this point, I only run plex and home assistant on it. More of a hassle than anything keeping it updated and running smoothly.
im in a simlar boat. nomies just cant break their established habits. but i dont care i use it. if they wanna use it they can. simple as. doesnt bother me i know the power of free kino
Building me a new pc and very tempted to dive into this using my old desktop, since otherwise the thing is just going to go into the trash. I know I'll need more memory, but surely an old ass Sandy Bridge CPU and a 670 will work fine, right? From what I've read hardware requirements are too bad. Although I can get a 1080 for pretty cheap once a buddy of mine upgrades his setup.
>tfw your friend adds things you don't like to your jellyfin server >start cussing to yourself
I feel bad though. But it's just, I made the effort for all of it and pay the electricity/internet bill, I expect to be the one who's utilizing it more.
You don't need powerful hardware for it if you don't plan on transcoding files. I run my on a 10 year old laptop and it works fine. It has an old AMD APU (A6 I think) and 4GB of RAM. I don't do any transcoding and the media is attached via an USB 3.0 external hard drive.
The only thing I don't like is the limited space and no backups.
I thought transcoding was done best on the GPU. Which is why I was thinking about buying my buddies 1080
Doesn't plex offer gpu transcoding if you pay? Anyway if you want to try gpu transcode you may as well set up jellyfin as well. It'll take 10 minutes if you already have your media folders set up for plex
Plex Pass does give you GPU transcoding but that won't totally solve your problems with transcoding 4K on the fly. It's just not something you should try to do. If you just make sure your chain can at least *decode* Dolby Atmos audio (not just "support") you will right away remove 80% of your potential issues with Plex and 4K rips. You dont' actually need a Dolby Atmos audio setup but you do need something that is licensed to decode it. You also should know if you can handle Dolby Vision / HDR10 and make sure you don't go downloading rips that you can't play.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I use jellyfin and transcode 4k hdr content all of the time with ease. I have a 3070 i suppose but you dont need one to be transcoding at over 60fps. You could probably get the same job done with much more power efficient cards. A lot of people are using the Intel arc gpus to do so. Hell, even an IGPU can do it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I use jellyfin and transcode 4k hdr content all of the time with ease.
Yeah I dunno about Jellyfin. It's probably just better, tbh. I do know from experience with Plex that you can't >muh hardware transcoding your way out of this problem but I think once you suggest to someone that their easiest solution is to buy an Apple TV 4K they want to tell you to frick off and start jerking off to their vid card purchase. But honestly the Apple TV 4K with Infuse app *is* the easiest solution for Plex users to handle 4K rips they pirate.
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Also jellyfin allows you to transcode video seperately to audio. You can direct play audio and transcode video separately. Jellyfin chads win again.
>Also jellyfin allows you to transcode video seperately to audio.
I think Plex does this in theory but chokes with the remux because it's just garbage software mostly. I was surprised when I found out that it was actually the audio destroying my ability to stream 4K because even still it's not that intensive. Like I said, in practice Plex is going to shit out with 4K transcoding on the fly. I don't care how powerful the machine is.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
this is me transcoding my 180gb rip of fellowship of the ring on jellyfin with a 3070 + hardware transcoding enabled via NVIDIA NVEC. Plex's transcoding should work exactly the same tbh i dont know why your has experience with it has been so bad. Between the two plex is the more feature rich, polished software its just israeliteed out.
Transcoding doesnt really scale up with more powerful GPUs because its all done on one chip in the GPU that is the same on all of the same generation of card. So a RTX 4050 transcodes at the same speed as a 4090 as far as im aware.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>i dont know why your has experience with it has been so bad.
It's not just mine. It's basically everybody who tries to build a Plex server using 4K blu-ray rips. What you will hear from people on forums, etc. is essentially "know that before you ask for help, you should NOT be trying to transcode 4K" and to always check your Plex dashboard to make sure you're not. You just learn to build your chain with a mind for compatibility and not brute force transcoding. In theory it should work, but in practice it just becomes a problem. I gather that most people have my experience of getting it to work with GPU support, etc. for a few rips and then sitting down to watch a movie you just grabbed and the fricking thing chokes because of something like audio or subtitles. It's just Plex. Easier to avoid it all-together and only download 4K WEB rips or better yet make sure you can decode Dolby Atmos audio.
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[...] >sometimes my friend watches something on my server and my cpu usage will shoot up to 95%, is that what you guys are talking about? Any way I can prevent that?
yes. So when you stream the video over the internet to your friend, your PC has to compress the video to send it to them so it doenst have to send a whole 40gb file or whatever over the internet, or convert it to another format if theyre watching it on a phone or tv that only supports certain video codecs like x264. So by default your plex server is using software transcoding on the CPU. Which means the CPU is inefficiently compressing everything in a sequence. A GPU or iGPU (which is a GPU that is inside your CPU) works in parallel so if you enable hardware accelerated transcoding (which is free on jellyfin but you have to pay for on plex) it offloads the task to your gpu or igpu, which are much better suited for the task, which means your cpu wont shoot up to 100% every time your friend watches a film and they will get less stutters/buffering.
wtf it's telling you it has to transcode because your pipe isn't fat enough but your client supports HDR10 and TrueHD audio? lol
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>wtf it's telling you it has to transcode because your pipe isn't fat enough but your client supports HDR10 and TrueHD audio? lol
im using firefox which doesnt support x265 or HEVC so everything gets transcoded through it. Also have the bitrate limited to 140mb/s
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Ohh I see. Plex allows you to create multiple versions of the same video and it will seemlessly choose based on what kind of client it's serving to. I can write a script that will go through my entire library, convert all the videos for various "presets" using ffmpeg and on the next update Plex will pick them up. No Plex transcoding!
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Seems like a hassle. I'd rather just have a strong hw transcoder (latest nvidia or intel arc) and have it auto transcode based on bandwidth and client limitations.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
yeah it seems kind of moronic to pre-transcode like 6 copies of the same film (which uses hardware resources and electricity anyway) to then store those 6 copies of the same film which uses up valuable HDD space. Why not just transcode it on the fly with the relatively small amount of power required to do so?
2 weeks ago
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>I'd rather just have a strong hw transcoder (latest nvidia or intel arc) and have it auto transcode based on bandwidth and client limitations.
If you can get that from other software, go for it. You have the hardware for a reason. That just doesn't work in practice with Plex.
yeah it seems kind of moronic to pre-transcode like 6 copies of the same film (which uses hardware resources and electricity anyway) to then store those 6 copies of the same film which uses up valuable HDD space. Why not just transcode it on the fly with the relatively small amount of power required to do so?
>Why not just transcode it on the fly with the relatively small amount of power required to do so?
Because Plex sucks at that for 4K and people want to use Plex for various reasons. It's a valid reason NOT to use Plex, though.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
this is me transcoding my 180gb rip of fellowship of the ring on jellyfin with a 3070 + hardware transcoding enabled via NVIDIA NVEC. Plex's transcoding should work exactly the same tbh i dont know why your has experience with it has been so bad. Between the two plex is the more feature rich, polished software its just israeliteed out.
Transcoding doesnt really scale up with more powerful GPUs because its all done on one chip in the GPU that is the same on all of the same generation of card. So a RTX 4050 transcodes at the same speed as a 4090 as far as im aware.
whoops pic related .
I don't even know what transcoding is. I have plex, I have stuff on hard drives. I press play and watch the thing. What am I missing out on? Sometimes my friend watches something on my server and my cpu usage will shoot up to 95%, is that what you guys are talking about? Any way I can prevent that?
>sometimes my friend watches something on my server and my cpu usage will shoot up to 95%, is that what you guys are talking about? Any way I can prevent that?
yes. So when you stream the video over the internet to your friend, your PC has to compress the video to send it to them so it doenst have to send a whole 40gb file or whatever over the internet, or convert it to another format if theyre watching it on a phone or tv that only supports certain video codecs like x264. So by default your plex server is using software transcoding on the CPU. Which means the CPU is inefficiently compressing everything in a sequence. A GPU or iGPU (which is a GPU that is inside your CPU) works in parallel so if you enable hardware accelerated transcoding (which is free on jellyfin but you have to pay for on plex) it offloads the task to your gpu or igpu, which are much better suited for the task, which means your cpu wont shoot up to 100% every time your friend watches a film and they will get less stutters/buffering.
2 weeks ago
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Yup. One thing you learn getting into setting up a media server with 4K rips is that TRANSCODING 4K is a huge no-no. Even if you machine is super powerful. Just don't try it. You can do 1080p with ease. I have a fanless Celeron that handles 1080p TC and 4K native streaming just fine, but if there is the slightest thing incompatible about your 4K rip file, Plex WILL try to transcode it and you're fricked. That means audio, too.
Make sure your entire chain handles whatever you might want to play and can do it natively. For me, I have a TCL 4K TV that can handle HDR / Dolby Vision and Atmos. You can use an Apple TV with Infuse App or an nVidia Shield which should cover you for Atmos audio decoding. Or you can transcode every. single. 4K Blu-Ray rip. ahead of time to make sure they're in non-proprietary formats.
Most people go into it thinking they just need a fat pipe to "stream 4K at home" but that's not the problem you will be running into.
Also jellyfin allows you to transcode video seperately to audio. You can direct play audio and transcode video separately. Jellyfin chads win again.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I don't even know what transcoding is. I have plex, I have stuff on hard drives. I press play and watch the thing. What am I missing out on? Sometimes my friend watches something on my server and my cpu usage will shoot up to 95%, is that what you guys are talking about? Any way I can prevent that?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I don't even know what transcoding is
Same here. I just watch Plex on the TVs around the house or directly on the side monitor of my PC.
>tfw your friend adds things you don't like to your jellyfin server >start cussing to yourself
I feel bad though. But it's just, I made the effort for all of it and pay the electricity/internet bill, I expect to be the one who's utilizing it more.
You don't need powerful hardware for it if you don't plan on transcoding files. I run my on a 10 year old laptop and it works fine. It has an old AMD APU (A6 I think) and 4GB of RAM. I don't do any transcoding and the media is attached via an USB 3.0 external hard drive.
The only thing I don't like is the limited space and no backups.
We're good friends and it's a shared thing. In theory I don't mind it, but as I said, somehow it's bothering me. Perhaps it's that the films aren't my taste and that he's so mindlessly utilizing it. I can swear he just leaves it on to run in the background. I also don't like adding films I've already seen or films which are "cool to have", but he kinda does that.
>You don't need powerful hardware for it if you don't plan on transcoding files
i always see this said and its moronation. sometimes it will transcode no matter what like with certain subtitles. transcoding is nearly inevitable
No, it's not inevitable. Look at this:
https://jellyfin.org/docs/general/clients/codec-support/
When people say transcode, they mostly mean transcoding video. Transcoding or remuxing for subtitles, containers or even audio isn't that taxing and even my shitty laptop can handle it.
>When people say transcode, they mostly mean transcoding video. Transcoding or remuxing for subtitles, containers or even audio isn't that taxing and even my shitty laptop can handle it.
Plex can't handle this very well. It will choke on streaming 4K when trying to transcode audio and remuxing with native video, or even subtitles. Forums are full of people who can't figure out why their 4K Blu ray rip they just pirated off the high seas isn't working with Plex streaming at home. The reason this is an issue is because it's a problem that tends to ONLY affect people downloading pirated 4K blu ray. Even streamed 4K web rips use a different kind of format where the proprietary audio is distributed with compatible non-proprietary audio streams. This isn't true of disc-rips
>You don't need powerful hardware for it if you don't plan on transcoding files
i always see this said and its moronation. sometimes it will transcode no matter what like with certain subtitles. transcoding is nearly inevitable
I fricking hate how obtuse and unintuitive the UI is. It was clearly designed by some hyper nerd who has never watched a movie in his life and only lives to play tabletop wargames.
So many basic things I should be able to do just by right clicking or opening a menu but no you have to dig through so many different sub menues or go to other random places to do something as basic as just adding or moving a show. I don't think they could have made it any worse if they tried.
We're good friends and it's a shared thing. In theory I don't mind it, but as I said, somehow it's bothering me. Perhaps it's that the films aren't my taste and that he's so mindlessly utilizing it. I can swear he just leaves it on to run in the background. I also don't like adding films I've already seen or films which are "cool to have", but he kinda does that.
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No, it's not inevitable. Look at this:
https://jellyfin.org/docs/general/clients/codec-support/
When people say transcode, they mostly mean transcoding video. Transcoding or remuxing for subtitles, containers or even audio isn't that taxing and even my shitty laptop can handle it.
Plex Pass does give you GPU transcoding but that won't totally solve your problems with transcoding 4K on the fly. It's just not something you should try to do. If you just make sure your chain can at least *decode* Dolby Atmos audio (not just "support") you will right away remove 80% of your potential issues with Plex and 4K rips. You dont' actually need a Dolby Atmos audio setup but you do need something that is licensed to decode it. You also should know if you can handle Dolby Vision / HDR10 and make sure you don't go downloading rips that you can't play.
I open netflix/max/etc.
I click a movie I want to watch
It Just Works
It uses movies from your own library. It should only have movies you want to watch
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
plex theoretically has every film available on the internet
in OPs pic it says
"free movies and tv"
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
If you are really that focused on that... well... yes, it has free movies and TVs. As an example, this is the Robocop TV series that I can stream on my Plex, for free, not in my library but on Plex directly.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>If you are really that focused on that
It says free movies and tv, why wouldn't I focus on that?
4k transcoding can tax a CPU. Anything under 4k is very easy and can be done any PC/laptop made within the last 10 years.
Yup. One thing you learn getting into setting up a media server with 4K rips is that TRANSCODING 4K is a huge no-no. Even if you machine is super powerful. Just don't try it. You can do 1080p with ease. I have a fanless Celeron that handles 1080p TC and 4K native streaming just fine, but if there is the slightest thing incompatible about your 4K rip file, Plex WILL try to transcode it and you're fricked. That means audio, too.
Make sure your entire chain handles whatever you might want to play and can do it natively. For me, I have a TCL 4K TV that can handle HDR / Dolby Vision and Atmos. You can use an Apple TV with Infuse App or an nVidia Shield which should cover you for Atmos audio decoding. Or you can transcode every. single. 4K Blu-Ray rip. ahead of time to make sure they're in non-proprietary formats.
Most people go into it thinking they just need a fat pipe to "stream 4K at home" but that's not the problem you will be running into.
I fricking hate how obtuse and unintuitive the UI is. It was clearly designed by some hyper nerd who has never watched a movie in his life and only lives to play tabletop wargames.
So many basic things I should be able to do just by right clicking or opening a menu but no you have to dig through so many different sub menues or go to other random places to do something as basic as just adding or moving a show. I don't think they could have made it any worse if they tried.
Roku sticks are cheap and they can let you install apps like plex even on potato TVs, if you wanted to go that route. My 13 year old insignia tv with the stick runs smoother and is more reliable than any smart tv I've ever owned.
not exactly on topic, but I figure this is a good place to ask. does anyone know of a tool like Megabasterd that can be run through the command line? I'm tired of having to download things on my pc and then transferring them to my server
It's for playing your media somewhere else. I just use it to stream files on my PC in the living room, but you can also use it to play content on TVs and phones anywhere else with internet access.
1. You can easily just stream it across multiple devices, with multiple users. I can start a kino on my PC while my wife watches Euphoria on her tablet and my son watches Paw Patrol on the TV. Then I can seamlessly continue my kino from Steam deck in bed, and finish it the next day on my phone while waiting to pick my son up school.
2. Organization. I can easily filter by genre, release year, etc... I can open a film with Brad Pitt, click Brad Pitt's name, and see every other Brad Pitt film I have. I can click an IMDB link to open the IMDB page immediately.
3. It looks nice. I don't have to be embarrassed opening a file browser on a laptop connected to a TV with an HDMI cable when I have friends or family over for kino viewings.
it's odd that people would involve their families in criminal activity under the guise of a streaming service.
No. I use Usenet + sonarr/radarr so that I queue up releases have them automatically downloaded to the correct folders, but you can just torrent things and drop them in a folder too.
the other anon is right about this being bait, but it's just as legal/illegal as you want to make it. like I mentioned already, you can buy physical discs that you then rip and store digitally to stream with plex. there is nothing illegal about doing it that way
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
if you own the physical copy.
i'm going to have to read their terms before I give them any money and my name etc etc for a "lifetime" subscription.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
it's a free service. you don't have to give them any info other than an email and the IP for your server
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
https://www.plex.tv/about/privacy-legal/plex-terms-of-service/
i'm going to look anyways. this seems like a bad idea if you do not own the physical copy.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
is this your first time on Cinemaphile or just the internet in general? no one fricking cares about piracy here. there is an entire board dedicated to torrenting for frick's sake
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>no one fricking cares about piracy here
I do, i'm not going to use some closed source software without looking into it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
then use jellyfin. it's open source
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Bruh, that's just boilerplate legal shit. Plex doesn't care. Their entire business exists because of pirates.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Plex doesn't care. Their entire business exists because of pirates.
so they track data/keep logs?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Like any cloud service, almost absolutely they do.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
alright, ty. staying away. thought it was pretty dumb to have to create an account to use data borrowed from the high seas.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Later mr fbi man.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
no, really. why would someone knowingly make an account for data (they don't own) to be able to use it? has the internet lost it's mind? or is this just some youtube fad?
2 weeks ago
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2 weeks ago
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2 weeks ago
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>he created an account
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
frick off fed
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
see
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
standard legalese and you can run Plex without Internet access, or restrict to a clan or reverse proxy.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>standard legalese
for them to roll over on you
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
no one is forcing you to use plex, anon. now frick off
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
i'm just looking into what others are ignoring. this seems like a really, really bad idea.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
everyone knows there is some risk involved. you're not discovering some big revelation
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
then there should be zero problem making people aware, right?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
my only problem is that you are annoying and acting like you are the first person to ever discover this. piracy and risk go hand in hand. everyone knows this
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
lifetime subscription cancelled and i'm doing a charge-back.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>paying to pirate
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Its worth it to kick $10 to a Usenet provider a couple times a year imo. You just get such better download speeds and availability compared to public torrents.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
as a brainlet / PClet, wtf is usenet? Is it just shared dedicated servers for pirating opposed to P2P?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Microsoft key logs everything you do on Windows and they don't even tell you what they collect you dumb Black person
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
what makes you think i'm using microsoft software(OS) and if I was, why wouldn't it be in a VM?
>involve their families in criminal activity
umm the corporations realize not everybody can afford it, so they almost never go after small fries. the artist would rather you watch it than not anyway. just never sale or distribute and leave some room for deniability wherever possible, use vpn, etc.
the average person breaks 3 laws a day
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>the artist would rather you watch it than not anyway.
lars went insane over napster when he couldn't buy his 2nd mansion.
No. I use Usenet + sonarr/radarr so that I queue up releases have them automatically downloaded to the correct folders, but you can just torrent things and drop them in a folder too.
plex vs jellyfin is like linux vs windows
if you want things to work, use plex . unfortunately plex works better with plex pass so you gotta take that into consideration. jellyfin is for if you know what youre doing or like tinkering or really dont want to pay
I set it up with Usenet, which I was new to (I had previously just used torrents), so it took me about an hour. If you already have a Usenet provider and index service, probably 5 minutes.
You can import lists from imdb and have it autodownload everything. You can make it only download 4k rips or only 1080p rips or only rips over 20gb or under 20gb or whatever. It just automates a lot of the trawling for releases of a film. Same with sonarr, which you can get to automatically download new episodes as they release.
But i find it is hit and miss. I ask for radarr to download under 15gb rips so im not nuking my hdd space but sometimes it just defaults to grabbing a 1gb rip instead or sometimes i do an automatic search and it comes back with nothing. Then i do a manual search on rutracker or knaben and it comes up straight away. I like to see what releases are available on trackers and find one that is the best bang for buck option aka like the 10-20gb sweet spot. Which you cant really do with radarr/sonarr.
I want to get jellyseer going thats the end game imo. Basically means i could download remotely to my jellyfin server through sonarr/radarr and even have my friends download films/shows on to it if they want to watch something not on the server. But means installing docker and fricking around with that so i cant be bothered.
yea ive heard of docker but even as a tinkerer/pc enthusiast it sounds like a lot of work and im just not familiar enough. currently everything works. can you use sonarr/radarr without dockker?
>can you use sonarr/radarr without dockker
yes. Docker is just a container for server apps/programs for linux on any OS as far as im aware. I use sonarr/radarr without docker. They are relatively simple to install. You just download/install them like any other windows program and then connect them to your qbitorrent or whatever in the settings. There are tonnes of tutorials to do so.
No, because my shit is organized into easy to navigate folders on multiple external 2.5 hdd's.
Four 4tb drives.
Film, tv, animation, internet(which also has books, textbooks, manga, comics).
I update them weekly.
Anything worth a damn. I already have.
Also, cut intros and end credits from any episode between the first and last of any tv show/anime/cartoon that is unneeded or doesn't contain an outro pertaining to the story.
im on linux i just installed jellyfin and its not seeing my media (internal 3.5 inch hdd). i had this issue when i first set u p plex and i had to do something with permissions. im trying things now even following tutorials but its not working
Google what user jellyfin uses (I assume jellyfin), then do the following, I'm phone posting so I can't get your exact commands, you need to Google them: >create a new group >add jellyfin to this group >chown (change owners) of that folder to your user and the group that jellyfin is, should be sudo chown user:jellyfin where user is you and jellyfin is the groyp >sudo chmod 770 <folder>
That'll solve your permissions issue
does anyone else have plex transcode because of subtitles? i watch a lot of anime and sometimes it can play the anime fine raw but as soon as you turn on subtitles it transcodes and the fans ramp up on the cpu because of the transcoding
Plex will transcode because of anything it seems and generally sucks with subtitles anyway. There is a setting to disable burning / hard-encoding subtitles somewhere
>jellyfin's app is shit
what do people actually mean when they say this? Like it doesnt scroll as quickly or some shit? I mean its just a library you scroll through to look at videos.
Yes but it doesn't let you pick up where you left off on different (especially non Apple) devices then. But i agree that's superfluous if you only watch on your phone or Apple tv. I just meant there is nothing that comes close to it for format playback support on ios or Apple TV. On ios you can also sideload the pro version for free.
Yup. I started using Infuse app for Atmos audio support. I tell anyone trying to set up a 4K Plex home server for pirated 4K's to just get an Apple TV 4K and the Infuse app and save themselves a lot of trouble.
I'm not a fan of the way media is organized. Wish it had more customization and fix some things that Plex can't do with mixed media libraries, but for just being a client/player it solves a critical problem with media format support.
I don't get why you homosexuals need to have some graphical user interface to watch your kinos.
Just use a file browser in a fricking list. You got to have some netflix looking gay shit, fricking homos.
i find it like the ultimate form of piracy. Its like you're making something better than even the streaming services are able to offer and making it easier and more seamless than them as well. It also impressive when you tell people you have your own netflix or whatever and wows normies.
>have 16tb, no desire to upgrade >decided to take away access from people so I dont get bothered anymore by "woops it broke" >now instead of stocking every show in 1080p I can have all sitcoms and shows I watch often in stock >all other shows I would watch sequentially I only keep the first couple episodes in remux quality >just download the rest on demand with sonarr when I feel like >have all the space I could ever want and backuping is ez
Feels pretty good
No one can watch 20tb+ of anything in a lifetime it's literally impossible. I've been downloading shows for years and my 4tb drive still isn't full and I haven't even been able to watch more than 20% of it. All these people who collect libraries of shit never actually watch most of it. It's like stamp collecting, they download just for the sake of downloading.
Depends on the quality you watch you nignog. Stargate SG1 alone at high quality is 1tb
Its plenty but it fills up surprisingly fast if you just donwload everything you see at high quality.
If you intend to hoard, 50tb is about average.
movies arent too big neccesarily and you can shop around for what ou like but if you want a lot of tv shows especially those with longer seasons it adds up
that would be less than 900 movies though. plus it's a lot of bandwidth to stream outside your home, and transcoding HEVC is pretty GPU intensive.
1 week ago
Anonymous
have an nvidia p2000 to do it for me
1 week ago
Anonymous
Doesnt transcoding pretty much cancel out having it in such quality anyway? I doubt hes transcoding as many devices probably can support it, at worst hes transcoding sound only and thats not bad at all
1 week ago
Anonymous
only transcode to family outside my lan, everything else is direct
>making an account on plex servers to use your private server
literal botnet. I use jellyfin.
based. it is disgusting how many people don't know about that. are youtubers to blame for this? that's what i attribute it to
Jellyfin looks ass
>jellyfin
Honestly, I tried liking it. I really did. It's like the linux of the desktop world: ngmi
to be honest they both felt basically the same to me, except jellyfin doesn't force me to authenticate to somebody else's computer to view my own media library
what are the advantages over Plex? I've been using Plex at home for years and i don't have any issues
if you need to transcode media using hardware acceleration plex requires you to become a paypig and buy a loisence whereas jellyfin will provide you that feature for free because it is an open source project
the real problem with plex is what
described. in order to use your plex server you first need to authenticate to plex's servers. there is no reason this needs to happen.
not to mention they've been banning people lately for sharing their servers with people (check the r*ddit, many such cases).
Plex recently also sent a takedown notice to github for a repository hosting a reshare feature that could allow plex shares to be browsable over the internet which might "grow piracy"
nobody should be using plex they hate their userbase and are becoming increasingly anti-piracy. give jellyfin a try it's just as easy to use and given the way plex is shitting their service up you'll be using it eventually one way or another.
different anon here i wonder what you think about my post here
EVERYONE on this website keeps telling me to use jellyfin but its just nowhere as easy to use imo and like i said it wasnt working as well as plex both for me as the host and for my friends on their jellyfin smart tv apps. should i give it another go? even the hardware transcoding you're talking about i couldnt get to work
Jellyfin's interface and client support is worse. I assume you're using windows. What gpu/igpu do you have?
As for smart tv's there are 3rd party players and you can just use jellyfin to browse. Kodi is also an option. Android tv based smart tv's are usually the best ones for jellyfin, or otherwise some tv stick you can plug in.
It is true plex has been cracking down on bigger shares, which doesn't bode well obviously. Some of the bigger shares have switched to jellyfin successfully.
You can try asking on
if you're having other issues with jellyfin, however they will likely recommend some flavor of Linux for a server OS (and they're mostly right, windows is a pain to run 24/7). OMV may be a good place to start for a beginner. Also try jellyseerr/overseerr for your friends.
You can request stuff from him with jellyseerr/overseerr
It's good for mainstream shit most of the time.
>I assume you're using windows. What gpu/igpu do you have?
im currently running plex on linux on a dedicated machine. when i tried jellyfin i was running it (and plex) from my main desktop which uses windows. they used the official jellyfin app for smart tvs. one has a roku/tcl tv the other has a samsung tv and both said their smart tv apps were shit and barely functional . and i couldnt get hardware transcoding to work correctly even just for myself
>no Dolby Vision support
>no TrueHD Atmos
All dependent on the client. Jellyfin technically has both just like plex.
You could try jellyfin on the dedicated machine and see how you like it. No reason you can't use both for awhile (or even indefinitely). But the client issue will likely persist unless you want to shell out for a TV stick (which tbf are not that expensive compared to set top boxes).
>But the client issue will likely persist unless you want to shell out for a TV stick (which tbf are not that expensive compared to set top boxes).
I use my computer or my phone and both work fine with Plex. Their TVs work fine with Plex so I'm just gonna leave it at that for now. I don't remember if I tried jellyfin on my phone but I did on my computer and like I said I couldn't get hardware transcoding to work. I think general playback worked.
>if you need to transcode media using hardware acceleration
Get a nvidia shield pro and you wont ever need to transcode again, its pretty great
is the shield better or worse than the steam deck.
They are completely different products
nVidia Shield is great solution to solve the Plex transcoding issue and has better upscaling then the Apple TV 4K. However, when I was building my kinostation they were expensive and hard to find compared to ATV. Also, Apple TV 4K beats anything else on UI and it seems to be far superior as a client for Netflix and other streaming services due to much better clients and Apple having their own servers for media streaming.
I have like 300 Films and 50 TV shows but I tend to delete stuff from time to time.
Gotta say the server is running nicely on my shield
its easy to use for my normie friends
I use jellyfin but the file completely breaks and becomes unplayable if i fast-forward or anything like that and only restarting and watching it from the beginning works, even restarting the server does nothing.
How often does this occur? I’d lose my shit if I torrented something that took days only for the file to be corrupted. I keep everything in an external and just drag drop them into MPV when I want to watch something.
I think if you can't pipe the quality of the original file through it starts reencoding and using up disk space on your server, so you may be running out of space.
i tried jellyfin and it just did not work anywhere near as well as plex. perhaps its skill issue but plex justwerks. the people ive invited are tech illiterate so its annoying trying to troubleshoot over the phone giving them instructions. with plex they just press play. the end. most of them use smart tv apps and apparently the jellyfin app for smart tvs is horrid
>literal botnet. I use jellyfin.
Why not just use SMB and Kodi? You don’t need some special server software to serve files in your local network
Pretty good, thanks. At one point I considered telling my parents about it but decided I didn't want the hassle of being asked to add things.
Also checked.
I gave Jellyfin a shot, but their roku app blows. Google TV isn't much better.
>Google tv isn't much better
What issues are you experiencing?
It's not unusable, though I haven't experimented with HDR/DV content, it's just woefully unpolished compared to Plex. Having said that, I know mission creep is going to kill Plex eventually and I'll have to switch. Hopefully when that day comes, Jellyfin looks better.
That's fair. Hdr should work, but for dv you may have to use a 3rd party player. I recommend novaplayer or justplayer (you can launch them from jellyfin).
HDR/DV content doesnt work when you transcode from HEVC to x264 for whatever reason. Only works when you direct play HEVC. So if you're going to use it you need a device that supports HEVC / x265, which is a lot of them anyway but its good to be sure.
>HDR/DV content doesnt work when you transcode from HEVC to x264 for whatever reason
That's because h.264 itself doesn't support hdr/dv. Dv might not work with transcoding to h.265/hevc (it will tonemap), but I believe hdr should.
ah fair enough i didnt know x264 doesnt support transcoding. I try and get as much in x265 anyway because it is more efficient and gives a better image per GB. Great for downloading 7-10GB releases for streaming without comprimsing too much in visual quality. I struggle to see the difference between a 10gb x265 release and a 30gb x264 release.
doesnt support HDR i mean*
i find the jellyfin apps are a lot more hardware dependant for how smooth they run. The one on my LG TV is sluggish as frick, but i have it on my Amazon firestick and it runs smoothly. Its mostly because at the moment the jellyfin app is just a wrapper for a webpage basically. It isnt optimized to be ran on low end hardware and is basically loading a heavy ass web page on the TV's web browser.
>I didn't want the hassle of being asked to add things.
just use overseer + radarr. I have a dozen people using my server and the only time I ever have to do anything manually is when TV shows frick up.
Does Overseer handle the remote access and plug straight in to plex? I want to try jellyseer but im not sure if i have to set up a new page on my domain on my webpage for it or if it plugs straight in to jellyfin.
not sure if this is what you're asking, but for accessing it externally you'd need a subdomain or subdirectory just like any other web service. I use cloudflare zero trust to access all my services.
>accessing it externally you'd need a subdomain or subdirectory just like any other web service
yeah thats what im asking. I meant does overseer function as a plugin for plex that runs on the plex web page/domain or do you need to set up a subdomain? Surely i can just set up radarr directly as a subdomain though and allow people to download stuff using that? Whats the point in using overseer at all then? The ideal would be if the user could search a film within the plex/jellyfin app and then it automatically got added to the library via radarr. That is what i'd thought overseer would do but if you need to create a subdomain it just seems to be the same as radarr but in a different skin. Am i missing something here?
giving people direct access to radarr gives them the ability to do a lot of things that you might not want them to do, such as delete movies, request hundreds of them, or download everything in 4k. overseerr also handles movie and tv requests together, then sends them to radarr and sonarr respectively, and supports login via plex.
you actually can automatically import people's plex watchlists into radarr, so that's probably the solution you're looking for. the only downside is it only checks the watchlists every 12 hours or so.
Half of my shit freezes in jellyfin. How do I improve performance? I'm literally running it on what used to be a high end gaming computer like three years ago, rtx 3080, 5900x
enable hardware transcoding. Bro your rig is powerful enough to transcode like 5 4k streams at once. it could also be the application. Get a higher end firestick or equivilent so there is no hardware bottleneck on the TV side. The CPUs and hardware in TVs is dogshit and everything runs slow on them.
Definitely a client side issue with that hardware. What client are you using? How good is your bandwidth?
Usually my phone or a roku tv. Sometimes it freezes when playing on the actual pc itself. I got it hooked up to a big oled
>Sometimes it freezes when playing on the actual pc itself
Could be any number of things then. What player are you using on your PC?
>Usually my phone or a roku tv
Roku tv sucks. What phone do you have?
Yep, I had an internet outage and I was unable to use plex cause I needed to sign in...
https://support.plex.tv/articles/200890058-authentication-for-local-network-access/
I have just crossed over the 600 mark.
Stupid white ignorant prick
Write a list of movies and tv for me to download
Godzilla
Godzilla Raids Again
King Kong vs. Godzilla
Mothra vs. Godzilla
Ghidorah, the Three-Headed Monster
Invasion of Astro-Monster
Ebirah, Horror of the Deep
Son of Godzilla Produced
Destroy All Monsters
All Monsters Attack
Godzilla vs. Hedorah
Godzilla vs. Gigan
Godzilla vs. Megalon
Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla
Terror of Mechagodzilla
The Return of Godzilla
Godzilla vs. Biollante
Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah
Godzilla vs. Mothra
Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II
Godzilla vs. SpaceGodzilla
Godzilla vs. Destoroyah
Godzilla 2000: Millennium
Godzilla vs. Megaguirus
Godzilla, Mothra and King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All-Out Attack
Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla
Godzilla: Tokyo S.O.S.
Godzilla: Final Wars
Se7en (1995)
Deja Vu (2006)
In Bruges (2008)
Phone Booth (2001)
10 Cloverfield Lane (2016)
Panic Room (2002)
District 9 (2009)
Waiting... (2005)
The Beach (2000)
>How's that Plex server going anon?
honestly I don't see the point, I just have a bunch of folders on hard drive
this. its an external hard drive to so ill.just bring it with me.
No thanks, I'll stay an fmoviesz enjoyer
but what happens when the servers go all gay and it doesn't load anything for an hour? you need backup movies and TV. also you should have high quality versions of your favorite films.
Checked, and I moved over to real-debrid for streaming so my Plex server sits unused.
GIVE ME LIST OF MOVIES TO DOWNLOAD OR I POST BASKINCONTENT
ANON NO
>nailing piccolo to the wall
this is racism, this is heresy, and i wont stand for it
homie you got an update
There’s a 30% chance you’re my cousin
>1384 Movies.
>114 TV Shows.
Yet it's still only 8TB which is weird. Like someone else mentioned in the thread I just use PLEX because its an easy app that anyone can use, primarily it's just to watch stuff on my TV's in bedroom and living room since my PC is in my office/study room. But brother and sis use it too.
Copy all the titles into a text and post it here
>1384 Movies.
>114 TV Shows.
Okay and?
I have 2740 Movies and 616 TV Shows on mine
prove it b***h
Okay then
>
you just downloaded this
And
I still don't know what the fricking point of PLEX is. I just have all my shit on my hard drive stored alphabetically in folders.
a lot easier if you got a tv in another room. everything is automated. it's like netflix, but no subscription
You can literally stream content over wifi to most android TVs
It just works.
Windows media player supports and it works.
Can also do it using vlc.
Alternatively you can setup a network folder and access it from your tv using a media app on your android tv.
This is also possible on Linux.
>hey hun wanna watch a movie?
>sure what do you wanna watch?
>Goodfellas!
>ok let me just go into my mancave(used to be the basement), find my SSD with the movies on, turn on my PC, connect to the TV per wifi and there you go
>...
>hmm I can't see the setting on your TV that I need
>...
>what do you mean you don't have an android TV? your TV is like a year and a half too old? ah ok no problem I'll just take the SSD itself and plug it into the TV no biggie we'll play it from there.
>...
>there we go, its all plugged in and ready to go. just let me navigate to the folder.. yeah there it is sorted alphabetically, g, goodfellas, got it
>...
>hmm I don't know why its not working. looks like your TV doesn't like the file format the movie is in
>...
>yea let me just google your TV so I can see what formats it plays... ah ok, it says MP4 but that's like a container format meaning I don't really know which MP4s it actually plays and which it wont until we try, also the same issue will probably happen with the audio codecs and we won't have sound on some videos. but hey, subtitles exist amirite?
>...
And all of that while you're kneeling in front of her TV with your fat asscrack peaking out of your carhartt cargo shorts.
Or... you just set up plex and press play.
Wtf?
Why would I do that at her house
>pirategays are becoming streaming cattle
Sad! Physical chads stay winning.
it's for people who live normal lives with a house and a family and don't watch everything on their computer, sometimes my wife and I want to watch plex on the living room tv, what am I gonna do? unplug my pc and take it all the way to the living room and hook it up to an hdmi?
I don't even own a TV anymore and don't know many people that do.
yeah it's not hard to "not know many people that do" when you don't know many people in the first place you basement dweller
Dude, people just leave TVs behind when they move these days. No one has cable anymore. Fewer and fewer people own a TV every year. Especially now that even jobs and schools are giving out laptops and tablets for zoom calls, TVs just aren't going to really be a thing once Gen X dies off and Alpha grows up.
>Fewer and fewer people own a TV every year.
Got any data or studies to back that up, guy?
https://gitnux.org/television-ownership-statistics/#:~:text=Television%20ownership%20in%20the%20United%20States%20has%20increased%20over%20the,over%2096%25%20as%20of%202021.
>In 2020, 96% of the US households owned at least one television set.
Turns out he is just talking out of his ass. "I don't know anyone who owns a TV"--lol. 96% of households own a tv.
My techie coworkers thought I was weird for not owning a TV.
K. And? You can access Plex from any device. I can watch kino on my steam deck, my phone, or anything else with an internet connection from anywhere.
Also, it remembers you last played locations for you. And if you've finished a film. So its really good for helping clear your backlog. Plus it will automatically fetch subs for you.
if i was in that situation id buy a 100 dollar laptop to use as my portable kino station that id plug into tvs.
If I was in that situation I would just select plex from the app menu on my TV and watch the movie
lmao wtf are you talking about?
Are you the last remaining household without an internal network?
im the only person in my group of friends who is smart enough to torrent. i use plex so my friends can watch my pirated kino without me having to physically go to their house with shit on a flash drive or portable drive which is how its often been. they used to not care and just use streaming services but in recent years prices have gone up, content keeps getting removed, and ads keep getting added.
When you have others in your house and multiple devices? My wife can watch her shitty HBO dramas while my son watches Paw Patrol, while I sort my vast kino collection by director, or by actor, or by any other metadata I want
if you have people to share the media with especially if theyre tech moronic its an easy way to let them watfch your pirated kino. if youre the only person watching what you download yea i guess its unnecessary
>Unnecessary
People say this like its a big hassle. It takes 10 minutes to install Plex and then it just werks. It is incredibly rare I have to manually fix a match or fiddle with naming schemes. It recognizes almost everything I just dump in my kino folder with their moronic torrent names like xXx_yify_720p_Dances_With_Wolves_release_ENG.mpv
im a plex enjoyer but it depends on what kind of person you are. i only began using plex recently and like i said before i just watched shit on my computer because i was the only one watching shit. since i want to share with friends i set up plex. otherwise i wouldnt really need it besides to see a GUI of all my shit. MPC-HC and double clicking the files plays the media and can do pretty much anything play-wise that plex or any media player can do you just dont get the nice looking organized library with pictures and shit
watching stuff on TV is a different vibe than watching on a computer. Seinfeld just doesn't work unless you're 3 feet away from the screen and can barely hear it over other people yammering and arguing
>watching stuff on TV is a different vibe than watching on a computer.
not that anon but my 4K 60HZ tv is my main display for my pc so when i watch something full screen theres no difference to if i were watching it on a streaming service
Plex is the gayest shit. Just set up a samba share and be done with it. Why do you need screens to tell you about your own movies?
bretty well actually.
>crush
i dont have one. i barely leave my house so i dont know any girls. but i invited my cousin and one of my homies shits going great so far! im gonna download all the kinos!
what a coincedence. recently began my server. rec me some kinos to add to the 'llection bros
American Graffiti
Snack Shack
Everybody Wants Some
Usenet + *arr + Plex is like living in the future. I can't believe I was on torrent + vlc + hdmi cable so long.
>years ago , was in a plex thread on Cinemaphile
>thinking of getting into it
>ask an anon for an invite to his plex server
>this homie has every kino ever made, constantly adds new and old things alike
kek i dont even know this mans name but he's been my kino contact ever since. thanks again anon!
redpill me on stremio/sonarr
Stremio with real debrid works great
anons post invites to your plex servers now if your really as cool and as smart as you think you are.
Insane check.
Anyone use a NAS? I've been thinking about having that set up and getting a TV that can just stream or cast from the file system.
Yes, NAS 4 bay RAID5 with hard ethernet to router running GlueTUN / qbitorrent /sabnzb in containers and dumping the downloads into the Plex folders. Then Plex app on the TV.
how much do one of those cost? I'm thinking of getting one as well
Its been a while since I set it up now but it was Synology DS918+ / 4 x 8TB Seagate disks / 1 x 512MB SSD for caching. Probably about £800 in total but that was before inflation and there are cheaper setups
I do. The only issues I've run into is buffering when I tried to turn on subtitles once, and I'm having to do the Plex dance every time I want to add new files, but I'm trying to chase that down.
>36 tv shows
>276 movies
>78 anime(s)
doing alright i guess
But anon… that’s like 70 more anime’s than there are anime worth watching. homosexual
choosing plex was a great idea. choosing linux is where i fricked up.
I love some of the custom film covers Plex has.
>tfw i just found out about TPDB literally yesterday
https://theposterdb.com/
Some older movies really need a fan made poster. I hate the poster for The Lair of the White Worm (1988)
>Some older movies really need a fan made poster
see
idk that movie specifically but they might have something for it
damn sorry bro. well hopefully the site itself can prove useful at some point im new to plex and just found it its great
Nah it's fine. I'm tempted to create it myself in Word using Word Art and clipart just to remove that awful cover from my server.
https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/11347-the-lair-of-the-white-worm/images/posters
It fits because the film is also trash, deleted it after watching and I didn’t even need the space freed up
dont forget to s(n)eed!
~600 films and 9 tv shows on my plex, but I've also got access to a friend's plex that has 3000+ films and 200+ shows
How do you see a count of how much you have?
How do you manually edit the metadata per episode like that? Plex fricks up modern cartoons also like Paw Patrol also.
>How do you see a count of how much you have?
just look at all titles in a library
I only have 223. I thought it would be more. I delete most things after watching, but I keep what I like. I guess I'm picky.
All on the web app. After I have Plex scan for new media I edit each episode and lock the data. Huge pain in the ass but worth it. Plex's multi-episode implementation is fricking moronic.
if its a web app, it's not local?
does it upload to somewhere? is that a smart thing to do?
i havent had to frick with metadata too much but i do engage in subtitle autism and by that i mean either placing subtitles in main directory with the movie/episodes so it auto detects. sometimes i have to movie srt to the movie folder but also rename it to match the movie/episode
Oh, you manually edit each title. I didn't think of doing that. I keep trying to find a way to "Fix Match" for an episode, but you can't, which is fricking annoying.
Yeah I gave up looking for an automated solution after weeks of searching.
I'm connected to my local server. It updates its metadata.
>I'm connected to my local server. It updates its metadata.
nice, I won't use plex after it got breached a while back. figured with all the people talking about it, it's been breached again, or will be.
65 series
591 movies (including 208 for kids)
It's been great. I share it to one of my friends and he's had no issues. Only thing I hate is how old cartoons apparently must be split up into two episodes even though that doesn't make any sense. I manually edit the Plex metadata for the full 2-titlecard episodes.
Why do women always make this face when you open your Plex app?
My wife uses two apps for tv series: Netflix and Plex. Her favorite right now is Shogun, on Plex.
how much a month does she pay for plex?
Zero mexican pesos
how does she get her movies for free?
Life finds a way
so if I were an aspiring agent looking to make it big, I'd just have to fit in?
>Desktop-LS460VO
I'm seeing this huge push for plex use. has it been breached?
I use both Plex and Jellyfin.
for me, it's LibreElEC but i'm a professional.
>japanese stuff
my brother
I'm not into The West Has Fallen mentality, but let be real... some asian stuff is refreshing after a steady diet of western Hollywood copy-paste.
>Adds shitty "Recommended" tab for all your libraries so they can nudge you into watching what they want you to watch
>Adds ability to change default tab
>Doesn't actually change anything
>Still defaults to "Recommended"
>Because they must influence your media consumption
My default tab stays on whatever tab I was on last.
Lucky you. Guess I'll follow the "recommended" advice for this bug and just nuke my entire Plex library and start over.
bros what is the most obscure or otherwise hard to obtain movie or show you have on your plex? i just got hold of some random 2 season sitcom from 2006 i remember watching sometimes when it was on tv. shit had no seeders so im shocked it downloaded
To Catch A Predator DVD rip. I dug into every private tracker and Usenet indexer I could find, and they all had a super shitty low quality version of the episodes (like 240p low quality). So I bought the dvd set off ebay, bought a dvd drive for my PC, and ripped them myself.
im almost considering buying Locked Up Abroad (Banged Up Abroad for any brits here) on dvd because i cant find any good torrents that just give me all the episodes. i have a torrent fully dowlnload but its only 4 seasons out of like 15 and the episode order/metadata is incorrect.
>the search wasn't worth it
iktf. hopefully you had fun on the journey
this was the film I had the hardest time finding. the search wasn't worth it
but according to letterboxd, this is my least popular film, followed by Hitler: The Unknown Soldier 1914-1918, From Day to Night, Hyohyo: Dear Mr. Yasuo Otsuka, Tkies khaf, The Lambeth Walk, The Word and the Light, Robert and Bertram, U-Boat, Course West!, and Hijacked to Hell before finally getting to Children Are Not Afraid...
I collect VHS rips of MTV and other broadcasts not available on video, including commercials. Most of them get yeeted off archive sites eventually so I have a ton of stuff that's just gone.
tell me where you get them from i want to join you
Archive.org is the easiest place to start. There is tons of uploads of various quality and length but most will disappear eventually. The 80's and early 90's commercials are super cool, especially local ones. It's fun to discover obscure, weird things that nobody knows about that aren't on YouTube and have been memory-holed.
Just the other day I discovered the original edit of a music video by Was Not Was (the Walk the Dinosaur band) that was creepy as frick and was about racism, rape, and child abuse but for some fricked up reason they put actual happy kids in it clapping and jumping with the band not knowing what they were dancing to. You can't find that version of the video on YT.
Kneel
holy shit i fricking kneel
How many drives do you need to hold all that?
Currently around 30
Gunna need to buy more soon
At this point I only buy >18TB drives
Hoarder or fan? I mean do you really watch it?
First mostly
Similar setup 60 bay 4U rack
nice. I fricked up when I bought my rack and didn't check the dimensions. Not adjustable either; I think this one is meant for audio equipment. So I won't be getting a JBOD anytime soon and have to settle for measly 15-wide disk array enclosures.
>nice. I fricked up when I bought my rack and didn't check the dimension
Those things are ridiculously overpriced for what they are. I think it's Ikea that used to (or still does) make a piece of furniture that's perfect for a minirack, that nerds were just adding the rails to. Perfect for a media server. Dunno which specific item it is but maybe look into that.
2nd one from the bottom, is that a pre built server or is that case available for purchase? What's the bottom server?
not a pre-built, the case is a Rosewill RSV-Z3100U I got from newegg. I got it specifically because I had an extra standard PSU I didn't want to throw away
The bottom is just an enclosure for the hard drives (Dell EMC KTN-STL3) that's hooked to the server with a SAS cable
I have a giant heavy steel Rosewill RSV-R4000 to house a teeny tiny mATX board with integrated fanless celeron processor to run my Plex server and house the drives. It's nice to be able to use old PSU and the big case for airflow with larger quieter case fans.
christ almighty, it's not often I have to do this. Are you using one of those drive bays by 45drives?
>*deletes all your media because of a DMCA request*
heh nothing personnel, kid
Is there a service like Plex that lets you put queue things up like a tv station, maybe even with ads? I want my son to have the proper cartoon viewing experience.
>setup a plex server JUST for my dad because I know he likes to unwind and watch new kinos
>put thousands of movies on it, some of his favorites in 4k!
>show him how to use a web interface so he can download ANY MOVIE he wants to watch on my server
>tell him I can put ANY movie he wants to watch all he has to do is call or text me (ploy to get him to call and talk to me more)
>doesn't use it all, never asks for movies, just sticks to Netflix and Amazon prime
>give out access to friends
>they don't use it either
Just going to sell my server at this point, I only run plex and home assistant on it. More of a hassle than anything keeping it updated and running smoothly.
im in a simlar boat. nomies just cant break their established habits. but i dont care i use it. if they wanna use it they can. simple as. doesnt bother me i know the power of free kino
My kids use Jellyfin and Plex all by themselves. Even my 5 year old.
I used the hell out of plex years ago. What a godlike media server (free)
I tried giving access to my friend that lives in another state but apparently my internet isn’t strong enough and idk how port forward
Building me a new pc and very tempted to dive into this using my old desktop, since otherwise the thing is just going to go into the trash. I know I'll need more memory, but surely an old ass Sandy Bridge CPU and a 670 will work fine, right? From what I've read hardware requirements are too bad. Although I can get a 1080 for pretty cheap once a buddy of mine upgrades his setup.
4k transcoding can tax a CPU. Anything under 4k is very easy and can be done any PC/laptop made within the last 10 years.
I thought transcoding was done best on the GPU. Which is why I was thinking about buying my buddies 1080
Plex only supports cpu transcoding.
Doesn't plex offer gpu transcoding if you pay? Anyway if you want to try gpu transcode you may as well set up jellyfin as well. It'll take 10 minutes if you already have your media folders set up for plex
Plex Pass does give you GPU transcoding but that won't totally solve your problems with transcoding 4K on the fly. It's just not something you should try to do. If you just make sure your chain can at least *decode* Dolby Atmos audio (not just "support") you will right away remove 80% of your potential issues with Plex and 4K rips. You dont' actually need a Dolby Atmos audio setup but you do need something that is licensed to decode it. You also should know if you can handle Dolby Vision / HDR10 and make sure you don't go downloading rips that you can't play.
I use jellyfin and transcode 4k hdr content all of the time with ease. I have a 3070 i suppose but you dont need one to be transcoding at over 60fps. You could probably get the same job done with much more power efficient cards. A lot of people are using the Intel arc gpus to do so. Hell, even an IGPU can do it.
>I use jellyfin and transcode 4k hdr content all of the time with ease.
Yeah I dunno about Jellyfin. It's probably just better, tbh. I do know from experience with Plex that you can't >muh hardware transcoding your way out of this problem but I think once you suggest to someone that their easiest solution is to buy an Apple TV 4K they want to tell you to frick off and start jerking off to their vid card purchase. But honestly the Apple TV 4K with Infuse app *is* the easiest solution for Plex users to handle 4K rips they pirate.
>Also jellyfin allows you to transcode video seperately to audio.
I think Plex does this in theory but chokes with the remux because it's just garbage software mostly. I was surprised when I found out that it was actually the audio destroying my ability to stream 4K because even still it's not that intensive. Like I said, in practice Plex is going to shit out with 4K transcoding on the fly. I don't care how powerful the machine is.
this is me transcoding my 180gb rip of fellowship of the ring on jellyfin with a 3070 + hardware transcoding enabled via NVIDIA NVEC. Plex's transcoding should work exactly the same tbh i dont know why your has experience with it has been so bad. Between the two plex is the more feature rich, polished software its just israeliteed out.
Transcoding doesnt really scale up with more powerful GPUs because its all done on one chip in the GPU that is the same on all of the same generation of card. So a RTX 4050 transcodes at the same speed as a 4090 as far as im aware.
>i dont know why your has experience with it has been so bad.
It's not just mine. It's basically everybody who tries to build a Plex server using 4K blu-ray rips. What you will hear from people on forums, etc. is essentially "know that before you ask for help, you should NOT be trying to transcode 4K" and to always check your Plex dashboard to make sure you're not. You just learn to build your chain with a mind for compatibility and not brute force transcoding. In theory it should work, but in practice it just becomes a problem. I gather that most people have my experience of getting it to work with GPU support, etc. for a few rips and then sitting down to watch a movie you just grabbed and the fricking thing chokes because of something like audio or subtitles. It's just Plex. Easier to avoid it all-together and only download 4K WEB rips or better yet make sure you can decode Dolby Atmos audio.
wtf it's telling you it has to transcode because your pipe isn't fat enough but your client supports HDR10 and TrueHD audio? lol
>wtf it's telling you it has to transcode because your pipe isn't fat enough but your client supports HDR10 and TrueHD audio? lol
im using firefox which doesnt support x265 or HEVC so everything gets transcoded through it. Also have the bitrate limited to 140mb/s
Ohh I see. Plex allows you to create multiple versions of the same video and it will seemlessly choose based on what kind of client it's serving to. I can write a script that will go through my entire library, convert all the videos for various "presets" using ffmpeg and on the next update Plex will pick them up. No Plex transcoding!
Seems like a hassle. I'd rather just have a strong hw transcoder (latest nvidia or intel arc) and have it auto transcode based on bandwidth and client limitations.
yeah it seems kind of moronic to pre-transcode like 6 copies of the same film (which uses hardware resources and electricity anyway) to then store those 6 copies of the same film which uses up valuable HDD space. Why not just transcode it on the fly with the relatively small amount of power required to do so?
>I'd rather just have a strong hw transcoder (latest nvidia or intel arc) and have it auto transcode based on bandwidth and client limitations.
If you can get that from other software, go for it. You have the hardware for a reason. That just doesn't work in practice with Plex.
>Why not just transcode it on the fly with the relatively small amount of power required to do so?
Because Plex sucks at that for 4K and people want to use Plex for various reasons. It's a valid reason NOT to use Plex, though.
whoops pic related .
>sometimes my friend watches something on my server and my cpu usage will shoot up to 95%, is that what you guys are talking about? Any way I can prevent that?
yes. So when you stream the video over the internet to your friend, your PC has to compress the video to send it to them so it doenst have to send a whole 40gb file or whatever over the internet, or convert it to another format if theyre watching it on a phone or tv that only supports certain video codecs like x264. So by default your plex server is using software transcoding on the CPU. Which means the CPU is inefficiently compressing everything in a sequence. A GPU or iGPU (which is a GPU that is inside your CPU) works in parallel so if you enable hardware accelerated transcoding (which is free on jellyfin but you have to pay for on plex) it offloads the task to your gpu or igpu, which are much better suited for the task, which means your cpu wont shoot up to 100% every time your friend watches a film and they will get less stutters/buffering.
Also jellyfin allows you to transcode video seperately to audio. You can direct play audio and transcode video separately. Jellyfin chads win again.
I don't even know what transcoding is. I have plex, I have stuff on hard drives. I press play and watch the thing. What am I missing out on? Sometimes my friend watches something on my server and my cpu usage will shoot up to 95%, is that what you guys are talking about? Any way I can prevent that?
>I don't even know what transcoding is
Same here. I just watch Plex on the TVs around the house or directly on the side monitor of my PC.
But do you have a need to transcode video? If you don't have an explicit need, then you can avoid "wasting" expensive GPUs on that.
>tfw your friend adds things you don't like to your jellyfin server
>start cussing to yourself
I feel bad though. But it's just, I made the effort for all of it and pay the electricity/internet bill, I expect to be the one who's utilizing it more.
You don't need powerful hardware for it if you don't plan on transcoding files. I run my on a 10 year old laptop and it works fine. It has an old AMD APU (A6 I think) and 4GB of RAM. I don't do any transcoding and the media is attached via an USB 3.0 external hard drive.
The only thing I don't like is the limited space and no backups.
>tfw your friend adds things you don't like to your jellyfin server
you gave him upload rights? why?
We're good friends and it's a shared thing. In theory I don't mind it, but as I said, somehow it's bothering me. Perhaps it's that the films aren't my taste and that he's so mindlessly utilizing it. I can swear he just leaves it on to run in the background. I also don't like adding films I've already seen or films which are "cool to have", but he kinda does that.
No, it's not inevitable. Look at this:
https://jellyfin.org/docs/general/clients/codec-support/
When people say transcode, they mostly mean transcoding video. Transcoding or remuxing for subtitles, containers or even audio isn't that taxing and even my shitty laptop can handle it.
>When people say transcode, they mostly mean transcoding video. Transcoding or remuxing for subtitles, containers or even audio isn't that taxing and even my shitty laptop can handle it.
Plex can't handle this very well. It will choke on streaming 4K when trying to transcode audio and remuxing with native video, or even subtitles. Forums are full of people who can't figure out why their 4K Blu ray rip they just pirated off the high seas isn't working with Plex streaming at home. The reason this is an issue is because it's a problem that tends to ONLY affect people downloading pirated 4K blu ray. Even streamed 4K web rips use a different kind of format where the proprietary audio is distributed with compatible non-proprietary audio streams. This isn't true of disc-rips
>You don't need powerful hardware for it if you don't plan on transcoding files
i always see this said and its moronation. sometimes it will transcode no matter what like with certain subtitles. transcoding is nearly inevitable
I open netflix/max/etc.
I click a movie I want to watch
It Just Works
>I open netflix
>movie I want to watch isn't there
>almost every time
It almost never works.
and plex has the movies you want to watch?
It uses movies from your own library. It should only have movies you want to watch
in OPs pic it says
"free movies and tv"
If you are really that focused on that... well... yes, it has free movies and TVs. As an example, this is the Robocop TV series that I can stream on my Plex, for free, not in my library but on Plex directly.
>If you are really that focused on that
It says free movies and tv, why wouldn't I focus on that?
plex theoretically has every film available on the internet
You're thinking of PTP.
PTP is one source to get films for plex, yes
Who has a movie in mind when they open a streaming sevice kek
You browse what's available and pick what looks good.
Yup. One thing you learn getting into setting up a media server with 4K rips is that TRANSCODING 4K is a huge no-no. Even if you machine is super powerful. Just don't try it. You can do 1080p with ease. I have a fanless Celeron that handles 1080p TC and 4K native streaming just fine, but if there is the slightest thing incompatible about your 4K rip file, Plex WILL try to transcode it and you're fricked. That means audio, too.
Make sure your entire chain handles whatever you might want to play and can do it natively. For me, I have a TCL 4K TV that can handle HDR / Dolby Vision and Atmos. You can use an Apple TV with Infuse App or an nVidia Shield which should cover you for Atmos audio decoding. Or you can transcode every. single. 4K Blu-Ray rip. ahead of time to make sure they're in non-proprietary formats.
Most people go into it thinking they just need a fat pipe to "stream 4K at home" but that's not the problem you will be running into.
I've been using my PC to run flex but part of me wants to get a NAS device and just hide it away somewhere (assuming NAS is good enough for it)
I fricking hate how obtuse and unintuitive the UI is. It was clearly designed by some hyper nerd who has never watched a movie in his life and only lives to play tabletop wargames.
So many basic things I should be able to do just by right clicking or opening a menu but no you have to dig through so many different sub menues or go to other random places to do something as basic as just adding or moving a show. I don't think they could have made it any worse if they tried.
>adding or moving a show
Why do you do this in the Plex app and not in your file system?
Jellyfin chads rise up
>give gf access to my jellyfin
>BBC paradise videos starta appearing in my catalog
Uhhh jellyfin bros...
>paying for what is literally just a samba share
Plex or Jellyfin setup:
1. Install on PC
2. Add library
3. Install app on TV
Whats the equivalent to watch a samba share on TV?
>Install app on TV
I do not have that kind of TV
Roku sticks are cheap and they can let you install apps like plex even on potato TVs, if you wanted to go that route. My 13 year old insignia tv with the stick runs smoother and is more reliable than any smart tv I've ever owned.
not exactly on topic, but I figure this is a good place to ask. does anyone know of a tool like Megabasterd that can be run through the command line? I'm tired of having to download things on my pc and then transferring them to my server
What's a good storage set-up for doing something like this? I assume people aren't just buying 8tb drives, right?
pretty good with lifetime license, about to do a big upgrade
were these the used ones on newegg?
used enterprise but from serverpartdeals
>Sonarr doesn't recognize that there was a Hateful Eight miniseries released
What do?
Download it manually and add it to sonarr. Not really that hard
why would you use something like Plex or Jellyfin? for the cover art? I just find some kino on my drives and load it in the media player
It's for playing your media somewhere else. I just use it to stream files on my PC in the living room, but you can also use it to play content on TVs and phones anywhere else with internet access.
1. You can easily just stream it across multiple devices, with multiple users. I can start a kino on my PC while my wife watches Euphoria on her tablet and my son watches Paw Patrol on the TV. Then I can seamlessly continue my kino from Steam deck in bed, and finish it the next day on my phone while waiting to pick my son up school.
2. Organization. I can easily filter by genre, release year, etc... I can open a film with Brad Pitt, click Brad Pitt's name, and see every other Brad Pitt film I have. I can click an IMDB link to open the IMDB page immediately.
3. It looks nice. I don't have to be embarrassed opening a file browser on a laptop connected to a TV with an HDMI cable when I have friends or family over for kino viewings.
that all sounds really nice. do you buy all the content on/for your plex server?
of course not, moron, but if you are against piracy you can buy DVDs/BluRays and rip them yourself
it's odd that people would involve their families in criminal activity under the guise of a streaming service.
jesus so this is not legal
the other anon is right about this being bait, but it's just as legal/illegal as you want to make it. like I mentioned already, you can buy physical discs that you then rip and store digitally to stream with plex. there is nothing illegal about doing it that way
if you own the physical copy.
i'm going to have to read their terms before I give them any money and my name etc etc for a "lifetime" subscription.
it's a free service. you don't have to give them any info other than an email and the IP for your server
https://www.plex.tv/about/privacy-legal/plex-terms-of-service/
i'm going to look anyways. this seems like a bad idea if you do not own the physical copy.
is this your first time on Cinemaphile or just the internet in general? no one fricking cares about piracy here. there is an entire board dedicated to torrenting for frick's sake
>no one fricking cares about piracy here
I do, i'm not going to use some closed source software without looking into it.
then use jellyfin. it's open source
Bruh, that's just boilerplate legal shit. Plex doesn't care. Their entire business exists because of pirates.
>Plex doesn't care. Their entire business exists because of pirates.
so they track data/keep logs?
Like any cloud service, almost absolutely they do.
alright, ty. staying away. thought it was pretty dumb to have to create an account to use data borrowed from the high seas.
Later mr fbi man.
no, really. why would someone knowingly make an account for data (they don't own) to be able to use it? has the internet lost it's mind? or is this just some youtube fad?
>he created an account
frick off fed
see
standard legalese and you can run Plex without Internet access, or restrict to a clan or reverse proxy.
>standard legalese
for them to roll over on you
no one is forcing you to use plex, anon. now frick off
i'm just looking into what others are ignoring. this seems like a really, really bad idea.
everyone knows there is some risk involved. you're not discovering some big revelation
then there should be zero problem making people aware, right?
my only problem is that you are annoying and acting like you are the first person to ever discover this. piracy and risk go hand in hand. everyone knows this
lifetime subscription cancelled and i'm doing a charge-back.
>paying to pirate
Its worth it to kick $10 to a Usenet provider a couple times a year imo. You just get such better download speeds and availability compared to public torrents.
as a brainlet / PClet, wtf is usenet? Is it just shared dedicated servers for pirating opposed to P2P?
Microsoft key logs everything you do on Windows and they don't even tell you what they collect you dumb Black person
what makes you think i'm using microsoft software(OS) and if I was, why wouldn't it be in a VM?
>involve their families in criminal activity
umm the corporations realize not everybody can afford it, so they almost never go after small fries. the artist would rather you watch it than not anyway. just never sale or distribute and leave some room for deniability wherever possible, use vpn, etc.
the average person breaks 3 laws a day
>the artist would rather you watch it than not anyway.
lars went insane over napster when he couldn't buy his 2nd mansion.
No. I use Usenet + sonarr/radarr so that I queue up releases have them automatically downloaded to the correct folders, but you can just torrent things and drop them in a folder too.
this is the supreme setup, torrent normies can comprehend. add Overseerer for requests and it's completely automated.
Smart tvs read hdds natively.
What's the point of your last statement?
plex vs jellyfin is like linux vs windows
if you want things to work, use plex . unfortunately plex works better with plex pass so you gotta take that into consideration. jellyfin is for if you know what youre doing or like tinkering or really dont want to pay
i hear about sonarr and docker and all that shit but it sounds complicated is it actually worth it ?
I don't know what docker is, but sonarr/radarr are really neat. It feels like proper nextgen pirating.
how much work is it to set up
I set it up with Usenet, which I was new to (I had previously just used torrents), so it took me about an hour. If you already have a Usenet provider and index service, probably 5 minutes.
Sonarr/Radarr just automates a lot of stuff.
You can import lists from imdb and have it autodownload everything. You can make it only download 4k rips or only 1080p rips or only rips over 20gb or under 20gb or whatever. It just automates a lot of the trawling for releases of a film. Same with sonarr, which you can get to automatically download new episodes as they release.
But i find it is hit and miss. I ask for radarr to download under 15gb rips so im not nuking my hdd space but sometimes it just defaults to grabbing a 1gb rip instead or sometimes i do an automatic search and it comes back with nothing. Then i do a manual search on rutracker or knaben and it comes up straight away. I like to see what releases are available on trackers and find one that is the best bang for buck option aka like the 10-20gb sweet spot. Which you cant really do with radarr/sonarr.
I want to get jellyseer going thats the end game imo. Basically means i could download remotely to my jellyfin server through sonarr/radarr and even have my friends download films/shows on to it if they want to watch something not on the server. But means installing docker and fricking around with that so i cant be bothered.
yea ive heard of docker but even as a tinkerer/pc enthusiast it sounds like a lot of work and im just not familiar enough. currently everything works. can you use sonarr/radarr without dockker?
>can you use sonarr/radarr without dockker
yes. Docker is just a container for server apps/programs for linux on any OS as far as im aware. I use sonarr/radarr without docker. They are relatively simple to install. You just download/install them like any other windows program and then connect them to your qbitorrent or whatever in the settings. There are tonnes of tutorials to do so.
You don't need to use docker.
No, because my shit is organized into easy to navigate folders on multiple external 2.5 hdd's.
Four 4tb drives.
Film, tv, animation, internet(which also has books, textbooks, manga, comics).
I update them weekly.
Anything worth a damn. I already have.
Also, cut intros and end credits from any episode between the first and last of any tv show/anime/cartoon that is unneeded or doesn't contain an outro pertaining to the story.
im on linux i just installed jellyfin and its not seeing my media (internal 3.5 inch hdd). i had this issue when i first set u p plex and i had to do something with permissions. im trying things now even following tutorials but its not working
Google what user jellyfin uses (I assume jellyfin), then do the following, I'm phone posting so I can't get your exact commands, you need to Google them:
>create a new group
>add jellyfin to this group
>chown (change owners) of that folder to your user and the group that jellyfin is, should be sudo chown user:jellyfin where user is you and jellyfin is the groyp
>sudo chmod 770 <folder>
That'll solve your permissions issue
does anyone else have plex transcode because of subtitles? i watch a lot of anime and sometimes it can play the anime fine raw but as soon as you turn on subtitles it transcodes and the fans ramp up on the cpu because of the transcoding
Plex will transcode because of anything it seems and generally sucks with subtitles anyway. There is a setting to disable burning / hard-encoding subtitles somewhere
Going good thanks for asking bro. I wish Jellyfin’s app wasn’t so shit because I’d rather use that but oh well.
Forgot pic because I’m gay and have a small penis
>The Nickel Ride
Oh yeah, I remember it was pretty difficult to find that movie
Still haven't watched it kek
nice taste. Prime Cut is kino.
>jellyfin's app is shit
what do people actually mean when they say this? Like it doesnt scroll as quickly or some shit? I mean its just a library you scroll through to look at videos.
Mainly the UI doesn’t get my little dick as hard as the Plex one does
check my jellyfin lad
you can make it look great with a bit of customization/effort
for me it's infuse
This for ios or Apple tv. You can back it with jellyfin/plex servers btw
or just an SMB server or any DLNA device
Yes but it doesn't let you pick up where you left off on different (especially non Apple) devices then. But i agree that's superfluous if you only watch on your phone or Apple tv. I just meant there is nothing that comes close to it for format playback support on ios or Apple TV. On ios you can also sideload the pro version for free.
Yup. I started using Infuse app for Atmos audio support. I tell anyone trying to set up a 4K Plex home server for pirated 4K's to just get an Apple TV 4K and the Infuse app and save themselves a lot of trouble.
I'm not a fan of the way media is organized. Wish it had more customization and fix some things that Plex can't do with mixed media libraries, but for just being a client/player it solves a critical problem with media format support.
Plex works great for my 4K HDR Atmos/True-HD remixes over a remote network to my nvidia shield/LG C2
Apple TV 4K vs Shield was a tough decision
I'm not an apple homosexual so the choice was easy.
But damn if the UI ain't pretty
Shame about the lack of audio codec support on apple tv devices
Apple TV has some really moronic design decisions. Like entering text is done on a one dimensional ribbon from A to Z, it takes forever.
I used to get transcoder errors constantly on the TV app, it was pretty enraging. Switching to the shield pro I havent seen a single error since.
I don't get why you homosexuals need to have some graphical user interface to watch your kinos.
Just use a file browser in a fricking list. You got to have some netflix looking gay shit, fricking homos.
Whatever you say, boomer.
i find it like the ultimate form of piracy. Its like you're making something better than even the streaming services are able to offer and making it easier and more seamless than them as well. It also impressive when you tell people you have your own netflix or whatever and wows normies.
Do you do a little song a dance for the normies to impress them as well?
>little song a dance
esl pls go
good god you're a gay
im jelly haha of all your setups
im just using kodi on a pi3+ with 5tb hdd where i manually add stuff
>have 16tb, no desire to upgrade
>decided to take away access from people so I dont get bothered anymore by "woops it broke"
>now instead of stocking every show in 1080p I can have all sitcoms and shows I watch often in stock
>all other shows I would watch sequentially I only keep the first couple episodes in remux quality
>just download the rest on demand with sonarr when I feel like
>have all the space I could ever want and backuping is ez
Feels pretty good
at that point is there any point in having plex or jellyfin at all? May as well play everything via HDMI to your TV anon.
Tracking what I watch, subtitle handling, can also watch on my tablet easily when on treadmill/rowing machine, randomizing playlists, its just easier.
shit wrong thread
is 20 tb enough?
Plenty if you're just going to watch one or two movies a day and delete
34tb wasn't enough for me
Its plenty but it fills up surprisingly fast if you just donwload everything you see at high quality.
If you intend to hoard, 50tb is about average.
No one can watch 20tb+ of anything in a lifetime it's literally impossible. I've been downloading shows for years and my 4tb drive still isn't full and I haven't even been able to watch more than 20% of it. All these people who collect libraries of shit never actually watch most of it. It's like stamp collecting, they download just for the sake of downloading.
Depends on the quality you watch you nignog. Stargate SG1 alone at high quality is 1tb
i think i agree with
movies arent too big neccesarily and you can shop around for what ou like but if you want a lot of tv shows especially those with longer seasons it adds up
no one gives a shit about your 720p yify rips gaymo.
>60k h265
this is just a waste of space.
required for Dolby Vision
and I have 90tb so idgaf
that would be less than 900 movies though. plus it's a lot of bandwidth to stream outside your home, and transcoding HEVC is pretty GPU intensive.
have an nvidia p2000 to do it for me
Doesnt transcoding pretty much cancel out having it in such quality anyway? I doubt hes transcoding as many devices probably can support it, at worst hes transcoding sound only and thats not bad at all
only transcode to family outside my lan, everything else is direct
You are all losers compared to me. I have every television show and movie ever made. I'll never watch 99% of it but I have it so that means I win.
Nah, I will just use a Firestick with Kodi instead. Im not taking the time to setup a server and load 1,000s of GB of data.