You're not shit and talking to yourself like that is just gonna make you feel worse and then you'll get less done. One day at a time, try and do a little everyday and I'm sure you'll come up with something good 🙂
I'm gonna start tomorrow. The day after at the latest.
Seriously, what is my problem? I have everything mapped out in my mind.
Why can't I start writing? There's no writer's block, you have the whole story! You just have block.
I'm larping as a writer in a small countryside town while living on my uncle's cottage.
Screenplay is not going anywhere but my fly fishing is improving.
this has got to be the worst place to spend your time on if you are a screenwriter; half the posts here does not have an ounce of humanity in them. anyway. I've never tried written one and i don't think i could write something substantial
Because the industry is the bastion of humanity to begin with, huh? I don't see how this place would be worse than any alternatives, especially that people have anonymity at their side here.
I'm gonna start tomorrow. The day after at the latest.
Seriously, what is my problem? I have everything mapped out in my mind.
Why can't I start writing? There's no writer's block, you have the whole story! You just have block.
You're probably afraid or anxious that you won't able to turn your supposedly fantastic ideas into a similar quality screenplay. My advice? Just take a deep breath and jump into it. This applies to a lot of similar creative endeavors too.
Adaptation. A follow up to Being John Malkovich. It's about writing the movie itself during the movie as you watch it. Kind of strange to watch. Not as good as Being John Malkovich.
Good thanks. I've got a well written story about the malign influence of Zionists in modern western societies, it's loosely based on true stories. This is going to attract major attention and educate the masses. I'll have distributors and financiers fighting over one another to get their hands on it.
lol
lmao even
have some real life to draw inspiration from. not a single soul on this earth wants to watch a film made by some first year /misc/ack about his hecking red pillerino experiences.
>David Lynch said all you need for a film is 30 scenes >Commit myself to mentally creating the most kino scenes possible >All characters shall be autistic like myself
the second coming of Drive is soon upon you
pg 5 of a 45pg script due tomorrow.
going to down a 30mg Adderall and get this shit done. Somehow i have been doing this exact same thing for the past 10+ years. I need the stress of a deadline to actually get anything done. I have no idea how I continue to get work being this much of a frick up. I wish I had the lunchpail worth ethic of some writers who can clock in each day and do the work. Seems like a better more productive and less stressful way of living. I am currently thinking about ending it all but that fear will pass in an hour and I'll get this fricker done by tomorrow evening.
I still have to trim down my first screenplay, but I’m 50 pages into a second. Sometimes you just have to jump in when inspiration hits, cause you don’t know when it’ll return.
There was a highly decorated author in my country whose philosophy was that "waiting for the muse's kiss is the lazy writer's excuse". Posts like these always remind me of him. Don't think that the man was a workaholic. He simply sat down every single morning and wrote until lunch, then spent some of the afternoon reviewing and correcting whatever he produced that day. Sometimes this meant throwing the whole thing out, effectively rendering the day "useless" from the productivity standpoint. But those days weren't actually "useless" either way. That's the point.
Basically, but not because he had to pay the bills. The point is that everybody would prefer to create when he's inspired, full of creative energy and feels like he's at it's best; but that's a rarity rather than the norm and twiddling your thumbs in the meantime doesn't get you anywhere. There's value in systematic work and (for the lack of better word) grind, and it will help with your productivity and maximizing your potential on the long run.
Laziness isn't the issue, it's fear. Fear of the page, fear of the work. I can spend weeks obsessing over a script with a deadline looming before I finally have the guts to write the damn thing. I need the tension of the deadline to finally get it done. I once wrote a 120pg script in 3 days and it was produced... I don't suggest anyone do this. But again, the end product is all that matters if you're a professional. It doesn't matter HOW you got there, what matters is THAT you got there.
With that said it's not a good way to work. Steven Pressfield's "ART OF WAR" describes this very well, and when he finally overcame his fear and learned the kind of work ethic you described he was able to transcend his middling career and advance. With that said I'm still relatively young and have been working steadily for over a decade so... like... whatever man.
I understand what you're saying. Giving up your carte blanche is never easy but eventually inevitable. You're also 100% correct about the end product. If you were able to make a living out of screenwriting in the past decade that's a testament that things ultimately work out for you. You have a proven formula, so to speak. The fact that you're aware of your "shortcoming" and willing to work on it is half of your future success. So If I were you I wouldn't worry anon, I feel you'll get there.
Laziness isn't the issue, it's fear. Fear of the page, fear of the work. I can spend weeks obsessing over a script with a deadline looming before I finally have the guts to write the damn thing. I need the tension of the deadline to finally get it done. I once wrote a 120pg script in 3 days and it was produced... I don't suggest anyone do this. But again, the end product is all that matters if you're a professional. It doesn't matter HOW you got there, what matters is THAT you got there.
With that said it's not a good way to work. Steven Pressfield's "ART OF WAR" describes this very well, and when he finally overcame his fear and learned the kind of work ethic you described he was able to transcend his middling career and advance. With that said I'm still relatively young and have been working steadily for over a decade so... like... whatever man.
Dunno why you’d respond to my post when all I said was “when inspiration DOES hit, you should roll with it.”
Nothing about waiting for inspiration or laziness.
I am far too young to have experienced it but in the early 2000s there was a major industry shake up and many lost their jobs. The film/tv industry like many industries goes through downard shifts from time to time. Just stay focused and open to working in different mediums or genres and if you have to write a lifetime MOW or some other trash to pay the bills just take a pen name and get the paycheck.
tldr/shit is fricked right now but it will most likely get better eventually.
MOW = Movie of the week. It's what we call most made-for-TV movies in shorthand. Most are trash, but sometimes you have to do what you have to do. Thankfully I haven't had to go down that road in years, but frankly, I'm not even sure that's much of a business anymore(outside Hallmark Christmas stuff which will most likely be AI-generated in a few years if it's not already)
is writing screenplays necessary for directors?
because I got 0 writing skills
Not necessary but... a very valuable skill to have. If you're a visual artist who struggles with the written word then I suggest reading at least 100 good screenplays in the genre/format you're interested in so you understand that genre/format at its highest level. It will help you understand good storytelling on the page.
Nah, you don't have to hide it, it's not like a scarlet letter. Lots of people start off doing those kinds of shows. They're not GREAT credits but it's better than nothing and shows you CAN write. Still, it's better to avoid the MOW ghetto and get a staff job in a writer's room. The trouble is those gigs are getting HARDER and HARDER to find, especially if you're a white male. I hear things are changing a bit but who knows, things are pretty fricked right now, lots of people are out of work, especially those DEI hires that flooded the business the past 5 years. I guess hiring a bunch of talentless people because they checked the right boxes wasn't the best move...
It's both ways these days. When you submit a script to Netflix, they'll want you to direct it too. Considering that writing and directing are two VERY different skillsets/personalities, it's really a stupid move that the industry is making, and it shows in the frickawful screenplays that are going out lately.
I still have to trim down my first screenplay, but I’m 50 pages into a second. Sometimes you just have to jump in when inspiration hits, cause you don’t know when it’ll return.
>125k words in 2nd draft of novel >friends read it and give good feedback. They actually really enjoyed it and still text me with thoughts or questions a month later >realize I fricking hate reading but love movies >gotta turn this fricking thing into a screenplay now
Should I just throw it into ChatGPT or what. Feels like cheating.
I've tried using CHATGPT and i find it mostly useless. Here I thought I could have the computer do my job while I did other more useful things like jack off 🙁
Don't think of it as doing your job. Think of it as an extra pair of hands to be an autistic assistant. Asking it "What is missing from this scene" can get you some good insights some of the time, and moronic insights some of the time. You want it to save you 50% of the bullshit, but it'll cost you back 20% to tard wrangle it.
Unless you have the skills and finances to make the film yourself, writing the screenplay is a waste of your time. Can just chuck it in the fire as soon as you finish writing it, because it's never getting made.
There's no room for anyone in 'current year' as almost no one is hiring.
If anything right now is the perfect time to write/produce your own content. It costs a few grand to make an indy right now and if it's a horror film that has a unique selling point you'll most likely sell the piece of shit as everyone wants cheap content to fill space.
In current year everyone is hiring, all the time. There has never been a larger market for content than right now. There are new streaming services popping up like weeds and every single one of them needs a constant flow of writers and intellectual properties. >but I don't WANNA write garbage at some disposable no-name streaming service! I want to write/produce/direct the next American epic!
So start at the bottom and work your way up like everyone else. Even people who get lucky and stumble into a major opportunity almost right away still need to be at the correct place at the correct time. Ridley Scott directed commercials for years before he got his first feature. Stop being so impatient and entitled. Work your ass off on your work instead of putting all your energy into complaining.
This was true in 2022, but not today. The streamers, networks, and studios have reduced production massively in the past year. Most people I know are out of work. We're absolutely in a downward trend but it will not last.
2022 was not that long ago. Besides, Netflix has reduced production because they've made a series of terrible decisions and they're hemorrhaging money but a lot of the other major services (Max, Prime, AppleTV etc.) have not.
I work in the business.
production across the board is down.
Most of my friends are out of work.
Pretending things are not bad right now is stupid, but being a black-pilled b***h is even worse.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I work in the business.
I don't believe you.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Thats fair.
But if you won't take my word for it...
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2024-05-01/report-film-tv-production-down-strikes
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/crew-production-slowdown-1235843877/
https://deadline.com/2024/04/film-tv-production-los-angeles-q1-1235889407/
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/canada-production-activity-2023-1235893666/
https://spectrumnews1.com/ca/la-west/entertainment/2024/04/18/hollywood-productions-slow-to-rebound-following-strikes--report-says
https://variety.com/2024/biz/news/los-angeles-production-rebound-below-peak-levels-1235975147/
Also... what you said about the streamers... I'm not sure that's true. From my understanding(as a humble tv writer) is that Netflix is the only streamer that is not hemorrhaging money. Why? Because they are buying the cheapest content they can find(docs, dramas from Asia) while maintaining/growing their sub base with the few marque series (Wednesday, Stranger Things, etc)
Its about me fricking your mother and sister, while you watch.
Honestly its a pretty stealable idea so there's no way in hell ima give a synopsis here. Its a dystopian scifi future with some mild cyberpunk elements from the perspective of a teenage boy.
you should get a gig as a card dealer to learn about gamblers, because if you don't, your screenplay will be eye-rolling cringe to anyone who does enjoy a punt.
>t. card dealer who never gambled before working at a casino.
people keep wanting to watch movies and tv. The issue right now is that corporate insanity drove Hollywood into a death spiral financially and creatively during/after the pandemic. Humans have been telling stories from the jump, it will always exist one way or another. This is a down time, it wont last.
actually the issue is that social media and vidya have completely destroyed everyone's attention spans (like they're doing to us right now), and drained the reservoir of literate writing talent.
most of the people who might have become writers before simply don't or can't.
That's not even remotely true. Good writers have the sense to stay away from social media and the medium of video games has ballooned into a plethora of different experiences which widely vary in terms of the kind of patience and attention they cultivate in you, it's just dismissive elderly man talk to claim that it's all time frittering Mario clones
Talented people are always worried they suck, which is why they push themselves constantly to get better. Your arrogance is a strong indicator that you are delusional, not talented. But hey, prove me wrong. Get it produced.
>get it produced
With what means, exactly? Few people get into the filmmaking business today without nepotism. It's why all the new actors are just old Disney people or children of producers and actors. And even if you do somehow manage to make enough connections to squeeze yourself into the industry you're coming to face with a completely declining art form where audiences outright refuse to watch anything that doesn't trend on TikTok and isn't part of an existing IP. Oppenheimer was a total fluke. It's not going to happen again. Every streaming service sans Netflix is in shambles and studios have no clue what the frick to do now that they're getting annihilated by zoomers watching Family Guy clips on TikTok. The fact is that it's an extraordinarily low chance that anyone's screenplay would get made, and even if they do, it's a low chance anyone would watch it. I'm confident in the screenplay I developed but it's unwise to devote my energy into something that won't get made. I'll probably turn it into a novel.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Nice wall of cope.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Whatever you say. We saw the decline of literature as an art and there's no reason to believe the same isn't happening with cinema. It's a plain fact that young people are more interested in Mr. Beast and porn than cinema.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Don't be silly. I'm not the guy you're replying to, but anyone can make a movie. Start saving up for a few years and make it yourself. You don't need millions to make a movie, just a few thousand. If your story is good enough, it will catch attention.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Stopped reading after the nepotism line. Yeah nepo babies are an issue, and most people in the business come from wealthy backgrounds... but there are still a lot of honkeys from nowhere who are working. If you're good you're good.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah, basically this. Just because you're not a wealthy nepobaby doesn't mean you can't be a lackey for a wealthy nepobaby. Nothing wrong with being a goon that does all the dirty work while some israelite takes all the credit/fame/earnings. Oh you'll get some scraps, don't worry
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
No you fricking idiot you partner with the nepo baby, do most of the work, get most of the credit, then eject them once you've sucked all the worth out of them and move on to the next 'partner'.
How do you think people like Quentin Tarantino got their spot? Be being NICE? You lie, you cheat, you steal, you use... This isn't kindergarten, this is war. To make it you need to be a complete sociopath, a lizard, you don't have it, you are WEAK.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Then you get blacklisted by all the nepobaby's friends and family.
They smear you and then hit you with false rape accusations and other lawsuits so they get your money and put you in a cage to make an example of you
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
lol ok moron.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Go take your public school educated, nickelodeon watching ass and try to get cozy with a nepobaby and then backstab him then. Let us know how it goes lol
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
This is exactly what Jack Nicholson did and it worked out really well for him.
have any of you actually finished writing one? was it good to read after finishing? did you try doing anything with it after, or was it just enjoyable to write one?
I have three feature length ones finished but I don't know what to do after they're finished. who do I send them to? I don't know how to protect my intellectual property and also get paid without getting scammed/stolen from. I do not live on the coasts; where I live there is zero industry related to film. where do I start if I have finished screenplays in hand?
I wrote one screenplay a decade ago that we filmed half of before production fell apart. It was all an indie thing with very little money. I've since written 19 books that no one gives a damn about.
I've been hearing people in the industry screech and b***h about AI for two years now but the current AI systems are COMPLETE dog shit. They CANNOT write a story that would entertain anyone. That might change, but as of now, I am less worried about AI and more concerned about the morons who currently hold power in corporate Hollywood.
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actually the issue is that social media and vidya have completely destroyed everyone's attention spans (like they're doing to us right now), and drained the reservoir of literate writing talent.
most of the people who might have become writers before simply don't or can't.
Yeah, cinema will have to become a much different more immersive experience to survive... but TV/Streaming shows are more popular than ever(because people can doom scroll on their phones as they watch).
>Just marry/befriend klkes.
I always laugh thinking of James Cameron's break-in story. He wanted to direct Terminator and no studio would go for it, but he married producer Gale Ann Hurd and sold the script to her company for $1 on the agreement he could direct.
>writing a biographical film about a famous and extremely successful athlete on spec >want to speak to athlete's father who coached the athlete to ask if i can interview him
should i look up his number in the phonebook and cold call or is there a less weird thing to do?
I have a really good idea and a story laid out, I wrote about half of it. But I realise I'm probably too autistic to write good dialogue and I have literally 0 connections in the industry
Is this about a delusional first-book "author" who wants to make a point by writing a sequel to Melville's classic and actually succeeds, but sabotages the whole thing before it could be released out of self-hate and spite?
I heard writing the book first is the way to go rather than a screenplay, but I have one started that I forgot about. Maybe someday I'll pick it up again.
>still at page 19
bros it’s over
why am I so shit
You're not shit and talking to yourself like that is just gonna make you feel worse and then you'll get less done. One day at a time, try and do a little everyday and I'm sure you'll come up with something good 🙂
>character has a holiday tomorrow to focus on his writing
I'm gonna start tomorrow. The day after at the latest.
Seriously, what is my problem? I have everything mapped out in my mind.
Why can't I start writing? There's no writer's block, you have the whole story! You just have block.
Actually writing shit down is difficult. And when written down you see the flaws, while in your head it can remain perfect.
I'm larping as a writer in a small countryside town while living on my uncle's cottage.
Screenplay is not going anywhere but my fly fishing is improving.
this has got to be the worst place to spend your time on if you are a screenwriter; half the posts here does not have an ounce of humanity in them. anyway. I've never tried written one and i don't think i could write something substantial
Because the industry is the bastion of humanity to begin with, huh? I don't see how this place would be worse than any alternatives, especially that people have anonymity at their side here.
You're probably afraid or anxious that you won't able to turn your supposedly fantastic ideas into a similar quality screenplay. My advice? Just take a deep breath and jump into it. This applies to a lot of similar creative endeavors too.
pain
Good movie. Might watch it again.
holy frick why did this physically hurt what is the name of this movie
Adaptation
Adaptation. A follow up to Being John Malkovich. It's about writing the movie itself during the movie as you watch it. Kind of strange to watch. Not as good as Being John Malkovich.
I've written almost ten of them and still no agent.
Good thanks. I've got a well written story about the malign influence of Zionists in modern western societies, it's loosely based on true stories. This is going to attract major attention and educate the masses. I'll have distributors and financiers fighting over one another to get their hands on it.
>I'll have distributors and financiers fighting over one another to get their hands on it.
To bury it deeper than the Mariana Trench?
lol
lmao even
have some real life to draw inspiration from. not a single soul on this earth wants to watch a film made by some first year /misc/ack about his hecking red pillerino experiences.
>t. Cinemaphile's most moderate muslim
>David Lynch said all you need for a film is 30 scenes
>Commit myself to mentally creating the most kino scenes possible
>All characters shall be autistic like myself
the second coming of Drive is soon upon you
Bad!
pg 5 of a 45pg script due tomorrow.
going to down a 30mg Adderall and get this shit done. Somehow i have been doing this exact same thing for the past 10+ years. I need the stress of a deadline to actually get anything done. I have no idea how I continue to get work being this much of a frick up. I wish I had the lunchpail worth ethic of some writers who can clock in each day and do the work. Seems like a better more productive and less stressful way of living. I am currently thinking about ending it all but that fear will pass in an hour and I'll get this fricker done by tomorrow evening.
There was a highly decorated author in my country whose philosophy was that "waiting for the muse's kiss is the lazy writer's excuse". Posts like these always remind me of him. Don't think that the man was a workaholic. He simply sat down every single morning and wrote until lunch, then spent some of the afternoon reviewing and correcting whatever he produced that day. Sometimes this meant throwing the whole thing out, effectively rendering the day "useless" from the productivity standpoint. But those days weren't actually "useless" either way. That's the point.
So to put it simply: he treated writing as a 9 to 5.
Basically, but not because he had to pay the bills. The point is that everybody would prefer to create when he's inspired, full of creative energy and feels like he's at it's best; but that's a rarity rather than the norm and twiddling your thumbs in the meantime doesn't get you anywhere. There's value in systematic work and (for the lack of better word) grind, and it will help with your productivity and maximizing your potential on the long run.
I understand what you're saying. Giving up your carte blanche is never easy but eventually inevitable. You're also 100% correct about the end product. If you were able to make a living out of screenwriting in the past decade that's a testament that things ultimately work out for you. You have a proven formula, so to speak. The fact that you're aware of your "shortcoming" and willing to work on it is half of your future success. So If I were you I wouldn't worry anon, I feel you'll get there.
Laziness isn't the issue, it's fear. Fear of the page, fear of the work. I can spend weeks obsessing over a script with a deadline looming before I finally have the guts to write the damn thing. I need the tension of the deadline to finally get it done. I once wrote a 120pg script in 3 days and it was produced... I don't suggest anyone do this. But again, the end product is all that matters if you're a professional. It doesn't matter HOW you got there, what matters is THAT you got there.
With that said it's not a good way to work. Steven Pressfield's "ART OF WAR" describes this very well, and when he finally overcame his fear and learned the kind of work ethic you described he was able to transcend his middling career and advance. With that said I'm still relatively young and have been working steadily for over a decade so... like... whatever man.
Dunno why you’d respond to my post when all I said was “when inspiration DOES hit, you should roll with it.”
Nothing about waiting for inspiration or laziness.
I am far too young to have experienced it but in the early 2000s there was a major industry shake up and many lost their jobs. The film/tv industry like many industries goes through downard shifts from time to time. Just stay focused and open to working in different mediums or genres and if you have to write a lifetime MOW or some other trash to pay the bills just take a pen name and get the paycheck.
tldr/shit is fricked right now but it will most likely get better eventually.
What is an MOW?
MOW = Movie of the week. It's what we call most made-for-TV movies in shorthand. Most are trash, but sometimes you have to do what you have to do. Thankfully I haven't had to go down that road in years, but frankly, I'm not even sure that's much of a business anymore(outside Hallmark Christmas stuff which will most likely be AI-generated in a few years if it's not already)
Not necessary but... a very valuable skill to have. If you're a visual artist who struggles with the written word then I suggest reading at least 100 good screenplays in the genre/format you're interested in so you understand that genre/format at its highest level. It will help you understand good storytelling on the page.
When you have to write MOW slop, or even ghost write, is that something you still put in your CV, or must you hide it?
Nah, you don't have to hide it, it's not like a scarlet letter. Lots of people start off doing those kinds of shows. They're not GREAT credits but it's better than nothing and shows you CAN write. Still, it's better to avoid the MOW ghetto and get a staff job in a writer's room. The trouble is those gigs are getting HARDER and HARDER to find, especially if you're a white male. I hear things are changing a bit but who knows, things are pretty fricked right now, lots of people are out of work, especially those DEI hires that flooded the business the past 5 years. I guess hiring a bunch of talentless people because they checked the right boxes wasn't the best move...
is writing screenplays necessary for directors?
because I got 0 writing skills
It's both ways these days. When you submit a script to Netflix, they'll want you to direct it too. Considering that writing and directing are two VERY different skillsets/personalities, it's really a stupid move that the industry is making, and it shows in the frickawful screenplays that are going out lately.
All the best actors don't need scripts anyway.
I still have to trim down my first screenplay, but I’m 50 pages into a second. Sometimes you just have to jump in when inspiration hits, cause you don’t know when it’ll return.
>125k words in 2nd draft of novel
>friends read it and give good feedback. They actually really enjoyed it and still text me with thoughts or questions a month later
>realize I fricking hate reading but love movies
>gotta turn this fricking thing into a screenplay now
Should I just throw it into ChatGPT or what. Feels like cheating.
Having GPT break it into a good 3-act outline might be the best 'next step'
I've tried using CHATGPT and i find it mostly useless. Here I thought I could have the computer do my job while I did other more useful things like jack off 🙁
Don't think of it as doing your job. Think of it as an extra pair of hands to be an autistic assistant. Asking it "What is missing from this scene" can get you some good insights some of the time, and moronic insights some of the time. You want it to save you 50% of the bullshit, but it'll cost you back 20% to tard wrangle it.
I haven't used it that way, good tip.
Why the hell would you write a screenplay? It will never get made in current year, there's no space for people like you in a modern writing room.
>complain art is captured by /theirguys/
>/ourguys/ want to make art
>hurdur don't do it
Unless you have the skills and finances to make the film yourself, writing the screenplay is a waste of your time. Can just chuck it in the fire as soon as you finish writing it, because it's never getting made.
>it's the industry's fault that I'm a complete failure
of all the coping mechanisms out there I imagine this is the most popular
>people like you
Translation: People who think they can write better than modern television and movies but actually can't write at all
There's no room for anyone in 'current year' as almost no one is hiring.
If anything right now is the perfect time to write/produce your own content. It costs a few grand to make an indy right now and if it's a horror film that has a unique selling point you'll most likely sell the piece of shit as everyone wants cheap content to fill space.
In current year everyone is hiring, all the time. There has never been a larger market for content than right now. There are new streaming services popping up like weeds and every single one of them needs a constant flow of writers and intellectual properties.
>but I don't WANNA write garbage at some disposable no-name streaming service! I want to write/produce/direct the next American epic!
So start at the bottom and work your way up like everyone else. Even people who get lucky and stumble into a major opportunity almost right away still need to be at the correct place at the correct time. Ridley Scott directed commercials for years before he got his first feature. Stop being so impatient and entitled. Work your ass off on your work instead of putting all your energy into complaining.
This was true in 2022, but not today. The streamers, networks, and studios have reduced production massively in the past year. Most people I know are out of work. We're absolutely in a downward trend but it will not last.
2022 was not that long ago. Besides, Netflix has reduced production because they've made a series of terrible decisions and they're hemorrhaging money but a lot of the other major services (Max, Prime, AppleTV etc.) have not.
I work in the business.
production across the board is down.
Most of my friends are out of work.
Pretending things are not bad right now is stupid, but being a black-pilled b***h is even worse.
>I work in the business.
I don't believe you.
Thats fair.
But if you won't take my word for it...
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2024-05-01/report-film-tv-production-down-strikes
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/crew-production-slowdown-1235843877/
https://deadline.com/2024/04/film-tv-production-los-angeles-q1-1235889407/
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/canada-production-activity-2023-1235893666/
https://spectrumnews1.com/ca/la-west/entertainment/2024/04/18/hollywood-productions-slow-to-rebound-following-strikes--report-says
https://variety.com/2024/biz/news/los-angeles-production-rebound-below-peak-levels-1235975147/
Also... what you said about the streamers... I'm not sure that's true. From my understanding(as a humble tv writer) is that Netflix is the only streamer that is not hemorrhaging money. Why? Because they are buying the cheapest content they can find(docs, dramas from Asia) while maintaining/growing their sub base with the few marque series (Wednesday, Stranger Things, etc)
>tfw 8 page paper due to Saturday
>only on page 5
it's fricking over bros
>writing a screenplay
enjoy wasting your time unless you've already made it, and have already secured a deal before you even started writing it.
Write a novel you hacks and if that takes off, then try for a deal. I wish i had the willpower to actually knuckle down and finish my own damn novel.
What is your novel about? Probably two homosexuals kissing each other or some homosexual shit like that.
Its about me fricking your mother and sister, while you watch.
Honestly its a pretty stealable idea so there's no way in hell ima give a synopsis here. Its a dystopian scifi future with some mild cyberpunk elements from the perspective of a teenage boy.
you should get a gig as a card dealer to learn about gamblers, because if you don't, your screenplay will be eye-rolling cringe to anyone who does enjoy a punt.
>t. card dealer who never gambled before working at a casino.
I gave it up because the writing is on the wall and cinema is dying. Literally no chance I'll ever make it.
people keep wanting to watch movies and tv. The issue right now is that corporate insanity drove Hollywood into a death spiral financially and creatively during/after the pandemic. Humans have been telling stories from the jump, it will always exist one way or another. This is a down time, it wont last.
actually the issue is that social media and vidya have completely destroyed everyone's attention spans (like they're doing to us right now), and drained the reservoir of literate writing talent.
most of the people who might have become writers before simply don't or can't.
it must be hard being a temporarily embarrassed script writer that spends every waking moment on social media and video games
That's not even remotely true. Good writers have the sense to stay away from social media and the medium of video games has ballooned into a plethora of different experiences which widely vary in terms of the kind of patience and attention they cultivate in you, it's just dismissive elderly man talk to claim that it's all time frittering Mario clones
You've got nothing to lose. Might as well do something with your life.
He's probably making excuses for the fact that deep down he's afraid he simply doesn't have any real talent. And he's probably right.
Guarantee my screenplay mogs anything anyone in this thread could write. I developed the characters for years
Talented people are always worried they suck, which is why they push themselves constantly to get better. Your arrogance is a strong indicator that you are delusional, not talented. But hey, prove me wrong. Get it produced.
>get it produced
With what means, exactly? Few people get into the filmmaking business today without nepotism. It's why all the new actors are just old Disney people or children of producers and actors. And even if you do somehow manage to make enough connections to squeeze yourself into the industry you're coming to face with a completely declining art form where audiences outright refuse to watch anything that doesn't trend on TikTok and isn't part of an existing IP. Oppenheimer was a total fluke. It's not going to happen again. Every streaming service sans Netflix is in shambles and studios have no clue what the frick to do now that they're getting annihilated by zoomers watching Family Guy clips on TikTok. The fact is that it's an extraordinarily low chance that anyone's screenplay would get made, and even if they do, it's a low chance anyone would watch it. I'm confident in the screenplay I developed but it's unwise to devote my energy into something that won't get made. I'll probably turn it into a novel.
Nice wall of cope.
Whatever you say. We saw the decline of literature as an art and there's no reason to believe the same isn't happening with cinema. It's a plain fact that young people are more interested in Mr. Beast and porn than cinema.
Don't be silly. I'm not the guy you're replying to, but anyone can make a movie. Start saving up for a few years and make it yourself. You don't need millions to make a movie, just a few thousand. If your story is good enough, it will catch attention.
Stopped reading after the nepotism line. Yeah nepo babies are an issue, and most people in the business come from wealthy backgrounds... but there are still a lot of honkeys from nowhere who are working. If you're good you're good.
Yeah, basically this. Just because you're not a wealthy nepobaby doesn't mean you can't be a lackey for a wealthy nepobaby. Nothing wrong with being a goon that does all the dirty work while some israelite takes all the credit/fame/earnings. Oh you'll get some scraps, don't worry
No you fricking idiot you partner with the nepo baby, do most of the work, get most of the credit, then eject them once you've sucked all the worth out of them and move on to the next 'partner'.
How do you think people like Quentin Tarantino got their spot? Be being NICE? You lie, you cheat, you steal, you use... This isn't kindergarten, this is war. To make it you need to be a complete sociopath, a lizard, you don't have it, you are WEAK.
Then you get blacklisted by all the nepobaby's friends and family.
They smear you and then hit you with false rape accusations and other lawsuits so they get your money and put you in a cage to make an example of you
lol ok moron.
Go take your public school educated, nickelodeon watching ass and try to get cozy with a nepobaby and then backstab him then. Let us know how it goes lol
This is exactly what Jack Nicholson did and it worked out really well for him.
Published
have any of you actually finished writing one? was it good to read after finishing? did you try doing anything with it after, or was it just enjoyable to write one?
I have three feature length ones finished but I don't know what to do after they're finished. who do I send them to? I don't know how to protect my intellectual property and also get paid without getting scammed/stolen from. I do not live on the coasts; where I live there is zero industry related to film. where do I start if I have finished screenplays in hand?
I wrote one screenplay a decade ago that we filmed half of before production fell apart. It was all an indie thing with very little money. I've since written 19 books that no one gives a damn about.
I've been hearing people in the industry screech and b***h about AI for two years now but the current AI systems are COMPLETE dog shit. They CANNOT write a story that would entertain anyone. That might change, but as of now, I am less worried about AI and more concerned about the morons who currently hold power in corporate Hollywood.
Yeah, cinema will have to become a much different more immersive experience to survive... but TV/Streaming shows are more popular than ever(because people can doom scroll on their phones as they watch).
How do I stop writing scripts were all the female characters get horribly murdered? I'm scared to look like a weirdo.
You think Quentin Tarantino is scared to look like a weirdo? Don't worry about that shit.
just have some men get killed too. women like watching other women die anyways, so you really don't have much to worry about
If you want to be break into filmmaking, study the Talmud
God, you are just the absolute worst.
Have you even tried joining a synagogue or are you just here to whine?
frick off to r*ddit moron, basic pattern recognition makes the other anon obviously correct even if he's being dramatic about it.
Just marry/befriend klkes. Get your head in the door that way, talk shit about PaIestine or something.
>Just marry/befriend klkes.
I always laugh thinking of James Cameron's break-in story. He wanted to direct Terminator and no studio would go for it, but he married producer Gale Ann Hurd and sold the script to her company for $1 on the agreement he could direct.
>writing a biographical film about a famous and extremely successful athlete on spec
>want to speak to athlete's father who coached the athlete to ask if i can interview him
should i look up his number in the phonebook and cold call or is there a less weird thing to do?
generally reaching out over socials or email is the best first step but if they're an old then cold calling could work as well.
Friends were eager to read it but it's been over a month and nobody's read it yet. 🙁
I'll read it bro, I'll try to get to it this weekend, been super busy though
I've used this exact same line more times than I can remember
>*calls in sick to work and goons for 4 hours straight*
Don’t feel bad. I’m coming up on 6 months and only one non-family member has bothered to read it. And most family haven’t either.
I wrote a novel which includes 2 Baneposting references. So far only my grandma has read it.
I have a really good idea and a story laid out, I wrote about half of it. But I realise I'm probably too autistic to write good dialogue and I have literally 0 connections in the industry
Why not just use chatgpt?
Because you would never get what actual scriptwriters are trying to achieve
Only works for Hollywood slop, not actual art
Pretty good. I'm writing a script called "Shitting on my own Dick"
Guess what it's about
forest protection?
I sincerely doubt anyone ITT has the acting chops of Jack Nicholson, now or ever, so what worked for him is unlikely to work for anyone else.
Is this about a delusional first-book "author" who wants to make a point by writing a sequel to Melville's classic and actually succeeds, but sabotages the whole thing before it could be released out of self-hate and spite?
No point in writing. People today only watch TikTok, skibidi toilet, Mr Beast, and this. Good fricking luck making anything else
I heard writing the book first is the way to go rather than a screenplay, but I have one started that I forgot about. Maybe someday I'll pick it up again.
We're moving forward. As you can see for yourself.
Next we'll be writing about a sex cult with aliens and stuff.
https://substack.com/@freescripts
It's floating around festivals right now. How important is it to have a website? I didn't make one but I'm starting to wonder if that was a mistake.