because he's not a supernatural entity and doesn't have a portal to the Meat Dimension that keeps him fat while trekking through snow without food
or in other words, fat moron doesn't understand the difference between realism and within-setting believability
It was the first great outdoor excursion Sam had ever been on. Do people think a couple weeks of pushups immediately cause lardasses to do a complete 180?
Of course. But this is Sam, and we both know he didn't do that. Second he was somewhere safe he went straight back to quiet, indoor activity and assisting Aemon.
Unless Sam was cursed by a witch to stay fat forever, there is zero possibility he wouldn't have lost a substantial amount of weight doing what he did. He wouldn't be eating full meals trekking cross country, and the calories he would burn from walking would create a substantial deficit, which would cause weight loss.
Sam walked back, but rode to the fist on a Garron. The ranging was decently supplied with rations for the initial journey, and for most of his return Sam is being looked after by coldhands, so it's reasonable to assume coldhands was able to catch food to feed Sam and Gilly and the Baby, as by the time we see them again Sam isn't starving or anything. So it seems like Sam was at the very least adequately fed rations for most of the ranging. He lost weight in Feast specifically because he was sick at sea and unable to eat.
For someone his size to not lose weight would require a lot of food. He'd have to eat at least 3000 calories everyday just to maintain his weight, and that's only if he was sitting on his ass not doing shit. You think cold hands is pulling that much fish just so fat sam can keep his figure?
It's not like the books give mention to Sam's exact waistline dimensions or anything. It's possible he simply went from 'monstrously fat' to merely 'very fat' for the ranging, but George didn't bother to focus on the detail. Perhaps his nautical weight loss was just so much more extreme and pronounced that it was the first time Sam himself took note of it.
It's just such a trivial thing to ponder at for me. The real question is why Jon thinks Sam can forge a Maester's chain to assist against the Others if he also thinks the invasion of the dead is something that's about to happen soon. Doesn't it take them years to get ordained? Feels like George simply wanted Sam in Oldtown and fumbled the justification some. Sam should have left earlier.
There's definitely more to body composition than just CICO but at the end of the day your body obeys the laws of thermodynamics
If you have a BMR of 2000 calories and you eat 1500 calories of sugary shit, you're going to lose weight. Unfortunately most of that will be muscle, and you'll feel like utter garbage. If you eat 1500 calories with most of it coming from protein and animal fats, you'll mostly just lose fat and retain more muscle. If you're a complete noob you might even gain muscle while losing fat (though this won't last more than a few months at most)
Show me a competition where they have you drink 200oz of coke on top of the food. I think it'd actually be illegal because you could easily have a nice day like that.
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there are plenty of people who have done this challenge, it's fricking nothing compared to most competitive eating challenges
I'd guess that an average person could do it, but they'd feel like utter shit for at least a whole day afterwards. It sure as hell isn't a "small amount" by any stretch though
Yeah, he should go to the board that is dumber than fricking Cinemaphile, it would help his self esteem out massively.
That board is so fricking stupid that they think CICO is wrong simply because they calculate calories out as a static number and don’t factor the specific food for calories in.
>no bro, thermodynamics is wrong because I took a label at face value and hit the first link when I searched how many calories I burn
Don’t worry, that snake oil chink has got another fasting book for you to enjoy
dragons, baby clouds, I can live with that. Some fricking disgusting obese slob who doesn't understand all he has to do is walk a few miles a day is that bridge too far
>that's actually a really good point
It isn't. Losing weight isn't fantasy, especially in a world that has genetic traits as the plot point that drives the first book.
Based on my observations of reality fat people find a way no matter the circumstances. No doubt Sam was stealing rations or eating apples cores and fish heads when no one was looking.
Seeing fat people or minorities in these settings breaks immersion faster than any other inaccuracies
Only those in the clergy or nobleman would have the privilege of being fat
Westeros doesn't have earls. >not when he's trekking around everywhere
It was his first trek. And we're all proven right anyway because he loses weight on his second one.
What does it being his first trek have to do with anything? Did he manage to pack twice as much food as everyone else? Was he not covering as much distance as everyone else?
Both are positions frequently come into by family, highlighting heredity as a key issue. If he were from a family of fat-bodies it would make sense but the only relatives of his we know of aren't described as such, so it's a wash
To borrow a talking point from Critical Drinker,
Diversity makes sense when Northern nations are light skinned and tropical nations are dark skinned. But these post 2010s fantasy shows have the same racial makeup no matter what part of the world they live in. It’s even worse when the only methods of transportation are horse and boat. How did they get there?
For all the shit that George gets it's constantly stated that black people in game of thrones world come from a nation of tropical islands and black characters in westeros have always astory tracing their heritage to the islands
Only the show. Funny enough George admitted once he considered having the Valyrians as black when developing his series, but avoided it because of racial supremacy vibes that would create.
He was both a noble and a scholar you massive moron so both apply
Any burger could potentially be fat in the middle ages not just nobles and Christ NEETs there were bakeries selling fatty shit all over the place and they didn't plow the fields in fricking Cologne
I know a few fat mountaneers that do a lot of coming and going (restocking their supplies in the mountain refuge so they come and go constantly and its 7 hours one way) but they just eat a lot of especially drink a lot of beer and dont do a lot outside of that.
We dont really know how much Sam actually walked or how much he actually ate and drank. Its very easy to be that fat just by drinking a lot of beer, and castle black might brew shit/get stuff from their neighbours kind of like abbeys do.
Book Sam has a chapter where he himself describes the changes to his body after the expedition, I think it's the one before or right after crossing the wall from beneath. He talks about how he feels stronger, has more muscle, shed some weight, etc from the moment he started training to the present. This only proves how lazy fat people are because he didn't even read his own character. He has a loser mindset and that's worse than a dead career.
>cico tard
Go to Cinemaphile so they can laugh at you properly
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm doin a real big think
>no no it totally works if you just factor in exotic types of calorie and use unobservable dark kilojoules to balance everything out
What's it like knowing that everyone around you has to pretend that you're not disgusting to look at because of how fricking fat you are? How much did you gain after your lap band surgery?
It really is as simple as calories in, calories out, but you fat fricks are too stupid to realize you're being lied to by people who are profiting off of your fatness.
Anyone who tries to pull this "i-it's fantasy therefore no rules or consistency should exist at all" -bullshit is a certified fricking moron and the worst thing about them is that they simultaneously believe they're the smartest person in the room.
I always figured George was doing an unreliable narrator thing in Sam's chapters
if the fricker ever bothered to finish the books, I assumed he was going to go home at some point and shock his family with how much he's changed, and that's when he would realize it himself
You don't think they're obese? Obese just means BMI over 30. If you're 6 feet tall and 222 pounds then you're technically obese (BMI 30.1). These fatasses weigh a lot more than 222 pounds.
>fantasy show >hurrr you'll accept dragons but not THIS?
Why can't people accept that even in fantasy worlds there are rules as well. It's not always a wacky anything can happen story.
Because most people treat basic questions directed at their favourite piece of media the equivalent of gunning down 10 orphans in cold blood. They get angry and defensive and sulk, instead of simply opening up to a discussion.
Maise is a fine English rose and I'm tired of pretending she's hot
because he's not a supernatural entity and doesn't have a portal to the Meat Dimension that keeps him fat while trekking through snow without food
or in other words, fat moron doesn't understand the difference between realism and within-setting believability
Being fat is genetic. Him walking around a lot and not eating anything isn't going to change his genetic build.
so true bestie
Is that real? I knew she wasn't that bright, but I didn't know she was just plain stupid.
It’s real but she’s not the person pictured in bottom right, it’s some rando petite chick
>You wouldn't expect this to turn into this from diversity and equity programs
NO shit, Black folk can't turn white.
And you're fat because you eat garbage. Try eating carnivore for a couple months and see how "genetic" your fatness is.
>blacks and whites are different species
Based Lainey.
Why are his hands so tiny...
He ate most of them,he's saving the rest for an emergency such as the line at McDonald's being long.
Makes up for his massive Bank account
Abandoned long lost son of Trump.
They're normalsized. They just look small because he is fat.
it's one of the worst "points" a person has ever made and you know it, moron
This. It's basically him excusing the fact he's a fat waste of space.
Conan is a fraud for not ending the show before he could finish bailing himself out of still being fat.
Heh, salty pork.
OPTIONAL HEATING
It was the first great outdoor excursion Sam had ever been on. Do people think a couple weeks of pushups immediately cause lardasses to do a complete 180?
If you keep at it, after about 3 months you should see noticable improvements to your physique. In 6 months you look like a different man.
Of course. But this is Sam, and we both know he didn't do that. Second he was somewhere safe he went straight back to quiet, indoor activity and assisting Aemon.
Even if he left early, he still spent months on the other side of the wall
Unless Sam was cursed by a witch to stay fat forever, there is zero possibility he wouldn't have lost a substantial amount of weight doing what he did. He wouldn't be eating full meals trekking cross country, and the calories he would burn from walking would create a substantial deficit, which would cause weight loss.
Sam walked back, but rode to the fist on a Garron. The ranging was decently supplied with rations for the initial journey, and for most of his return Sam is being looked after by coldhands, so it's reasonable to assume coldhands was able to catch food to feed Sam and Gilly and the Baby, as by the time we see them again Sam isn't starving or anything. So it seems like Sam was at the very least adequately fed rations for most of the ranging. He lost weight in Feast specifically because he was sick at sea and unable to eat.
For someone his size to not lose weight would require a lot of food. He'd have to eat at least 3000 calories everyday just to maintain his weight, and that's only if he was sitting on his ass not doing shit. You think cold hands is pulling that much fish just so fat sam can keep his figure?
It's not like the books give mention to Sam's exact waistline dimensions or anything. It's possible he simply went from 'monstrously fat' to merely 'very fat' for the ranging, but George didn't bother to focus on the detail. Perhaps his nautical weight loss was just so much more extreme and pronounced that it was the first time Sam himself took note of it.
It's just such a trivial thing to ponder at for me. The real question is why Jon thinks Sam can forge a Maester's chain to assist against the Others if he also thinks the invasion of the dead is something that's about to happen soon. Doesn't it take them years to get ordained? Feels like George simply wanted Sam in Oldtown and fumbled the justification some. Sam should have left earlier.
Yeah that's how i'd rationalize it. Sam must have started at 400 and gone down to 250.
>cico tard
Go to Cinemaphile so they can laugh at you properly
>my body magically creates energy from thin air
How about you go back to r*ddit to be with the rest of your kind.
There's definitely more to body composition than just CICO but at the end of the day your body obeys the laws of thermodynamics
If you have a BMR of 2000 calories and you eat 1500 calories of sugary shit, you're going to lose weight. Unfortunately most of that will be muscle, and you'll feel like utter garbage. If you eat 1500 calories with most of it coming from protein and animal fats, you'll mostly just lose fat and retain more muscle. If you're a complete noob you might even gain muscle while losing fat (though this won't last more than a few months at most)
the image has been summoned
that hamburger "meat" looks disgusting
you're moronic and your mom cooks for you
literally not possible to do this with the soda, probably doable without
>literally not possible to do this with the soda
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competitive_eating
How did that regular sized asian dude win all of those competitions? And when I say regular size, I mean pre fat acceptance movement regular.
Most competitive eaters aren't massively obese
https://www.competitiveeating.com.au/eater-rankings/
Well I'll be damned.
Show me a competition where they have you drink 200oz of coke on top of the food. I think it'd actually be illegal because you could easily have a nice day like that.
there are plenty of people who have done this challenge, it's fricking nothing compared to most competitive eating challenges
I'd guess that an average person could do it, but they'd feel like utter shit for at least a whole day afterwards. It sure as hell isn't a "small amount" by any stretch though
I think I could do it and I'm not even fat.
I WOULD shit myself after and feel bad all day though
Yeah, he should go to the board that is dumber than fricking Cinemaphile, it would help his self esteem out massively.
That board is so fricking stupid that they think CICO is wrong simply because they calculate calories out as a static number and don’t factor the specific food for calories in.
>no no it totally works if you just factor in exotic types of calorie and use unobservable dark kilojoules to balance everything out
>no bro, thermodynamics is wrong because I took a label at face value and hit the first link when I searched how many calories I burn
Don’t worry, that snake oil chink has got another fasting book for you to enjoy
Found the fatty.
I am from Cinemaphile and it's the other way around. Nice try Lizzo.
It's literally calories in, calories out fatty.
He's not fat tho just a little chubby. He looks normal.
burger moment right here
Fat
Post chins.
Post wiener.
>He's not fat tho
Do Americans really
Almost 40 percent of the US population is obese. 60 percent are at least overweight. not being fat here puts you in the minority.
Those stats can't be real. Fricking grim.
He is humongous.
>normal amount I'd say
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm doin a real big think
dragons, baby clouds, I can live with that. Some fricking disgusting obese slob who doesn't understand all he has to do is walk a few miles a day is that bridge too far
oh say can you see
American moment
No, it isn't. You should have a nice day.
He would look silly like Jonah and be terribly miscast if he was to thin, there
>that's actually a really good point
It isn't. Losing weight isn't fantasy, especially in a world that has genetic traits as the plot point that drives the first book.
Fatass makes excuses to stay fat
Based on my observations of reality fat people find a way no matter the circumstances. No doubt Sam was stealing rations or eating apples cores and fish heads when no one was looking.
>was tending the ravens
>conveniently 'loses' all the ravens when he's supposed to send messages back
Was Sam eating the ravens?
Seeing fat people or minorities in these settings breaks immersion faster than any other inaccuracies
Only those in the clergy or nobleman would have the privilege of being fat
>or a nobleman
You mean like... Sam?
Not a lowly lord, maybe an earl atleast and not when he's trekking around everywhere
Westeros doesn't have earls.
>not when he's trekking around everywhere
It was his first trek. And we're all proven right anyway because he loses weight on his second one.
What does it being his first trek have to do with anything? Did he manage to pack twice as much food as everyone else? Was he not covering as much distance as everyone else?
Maybe he was eating some of the corn rations he was supposed to feed the Ravens.
He's no lowly lord. The Tarlys are one of the most powerful Lords in the Reach, the most plentiful of the 7 kingdoms.
>Lowly lord
You small brained gorilla Black person couldn't be more wrong.
Both are positions frequently come into by family, highlighting heredity as a key issue. If he were from a family of fat-bodies it would make sense but the only relatives of his we know of aren't described as such, so it's a wash
To borrow a talking point from Critical Drinker,
Diversity makes sense when Northern nations are light skinned and tropical nations are dark skinned. But these post 2010s fantasy shows have the same racial makeup no matter what part of the world they live in. It’s even worse when the only methods of transportation are horse and boat. How did they get there?
For all the shit that George gets it's constantly stated that black people in game of thrones world come from a nation of tropical islands and black characters in westeros have always astory tracing their heritage to the islands
And the black targarians? Or did they do that just for the show?
Just the show. Also they're not targaryans, they're velaryons.
Only the show. Funny enough George admitted once he considered having the Valyrians as black when developing his series, but avoided it because of racial supremacy vibes that would create.
He was both a noble and a scholar you massive moron so both apply
Any burger could potentially be fat in the middle ages not just nobles and Christ NEETs there were bakeries selling fatty shit all over the place and they didn't plow the fields in fricking Cologne
>um there's dragons why do you expect caloric intake to work the same way
why do morons think this is a good argument?
Because tv tells fatties that there isn't anything wrong with being fat.
George RR Martin is frustrated
>dude it’s just fantasy lmao LIFE IS JUST A FANTASY CAN YOU LIVE THIS FANTASY LIFE yeah i’m fat i got fatty liver i got damaged organs ROCK N ROLL
I know a few fat mountaneers that do a lot of coming and going (restocking their supplies in the mountain refuge so they come and go constantly and its 7 hours one way) but they just eat a lot of especially drink a lot of beer and dont do a lot outside of that.
We dont really know how much Sam actually walked or how much he actually ate and drank. Its very easy to be that fat just by drinking a lot of beer, and castle black might brew shit/get stuff from their neighbours kind of like abbeys do.
He's fat for a role
which role?
it's not a specific role
>This is a show with dragons, magic assassins and fire magic, what is it about a starbucks cup you dont buy?
Book Sam has a chapter where he himself describes the changes to his body after the expedition, I think it's the one before or right after crossing the wall from beneath. He talks about how he feels stronger, has more muscle, shed some weight, etc from the moment he started training to the present. This only proves how lazy fat people are because he didn't even read his own character. He has a loser mindset and that's worse than a dead career.
cico is disproven nonsense
What's it like knowing that everyone around you has to pretend that you're not disgusting to look at because of how fricking fat you are? How much did you gain after your lap band surgery?
It really is as simple as calories in, calories out, but you fat fricks are too stupid to realize you're being lied to by people who are profiting off of your fatness.
Holy shit GOTgays were insufferable, glad the franchise is dead
Anyone who tries to pull this "i-it's fantasy therefore no rules or consistency should exist at all" -bullshit is a certified fricking moron and the worst thing about them is that they simultaneously believe they're the smartest person in the room.
>stories? meaning? philosophy? nah what really matters is if the male fatty lost weight at the correct pace
actual foidbrain kys
I always figured George was doing an unreliable narrator thing in Sam's chapters
if the fricker ever bothered to finish the books, I assumed he was going to go home at some point and shock his family with how much he's changed, and that's when he would realize it himself
That would be ok if everyone else was also fat but they aren't you fatfrick
Ah yes, the old "he was sneaking extra rations" bit so the fatass actor doesn't have to do any work and lose weight
you can tall he was going over this imaginary scenario for a long time
You'd think an actor more than anybody would know about suspension of disbelief
Reminds me of the obese guys on Townsends reenacting the 18th century. I'm sure there were plenty of 400 lb'ers walking around New England.
>obese
Abusing hyperbole doesn't make your argument any stronger, and it's not even necessary here.
You don't think they're obese? Obese just means BMI over 30. If you're 6 feet tall and 222 pounds then you're technically obese (BMI 30.1). These fatasses weigh a lot more than 222 pounds.
Exactly what part of the south are you from that this doesn't look obese to you?
>hot damn, massa dun threwd out anotha pot of cooking oil!
SLURRRRRRRRRRRRRP
Dude on the end give me John Wayne Gacy vides.
>huh... that's... that's actually a really good point
No.
>fantasy show
>hurrr you'll accept dragons but not THIS?
Why can't people accept that even in fantasy worlds there are rules as well. It's not always a wacky anything can happen story.
Because most people treat basic questions directed at their favourite piece of media the equivalent of gunning down 10 orphans in cold blood. They get angry and defensive and sulk, instead of simply opening up to a discussion.