>hype up the flash as the best comic book movie ever, ends up being a massive bomb
>hire flash director to direct new batman movie
>hire james mangold to make swamp thing, his indiana jones movie is worst rated and will lose 9 figures
is dc just cursed?
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DC is fricked because WB is run but literal idiots that keep making the worst decisions. They're almost as dumb as Sony.
Sony, Disney and WB are all run by incompetent morons who should have been fired years ago.
Zaslav seems moderately competent in his defence, but he inherited it from Hamada who acts like he has brain damage. And he hired Gunn who's a man child.
Disney, enough said about them to be honest.
Ironically, sony are probably the least moronic of the 3. I like to think that the email leaks shamed them and forced them into self-reflection.
>I like to think that the email leaks shamed them and forced them into self-reflection.
Did it tho
Hey now, what if Spiderman did Tough Mudder while listening to EDM? Good idea right?
ESG self-choking homosexual
Those two films are mostly bad because of studio meddling, not so much the directors. From what I understand, Gunn will have full control over DC studios which he will then grant to his directors. He’s already emphasized the importance of director driven films
so then what makes muschietti fit to direct a batman film?
mangold atleast has a long track record to feel ok but about it i guess
IT part 1 was actually pretty good and the flash was quite serviceable considering it was in development hell for roughly 20 years. There was no way the movie was going to be anything above 8/10. Anyways, maybe he made a good pitch for the Batman film?
muschietti doesn't write and the flash wasn't an 8/10 tho, it utterly bombed in audience reception, a b cinemascore is literally ant-man 3 level bad
You didn’t actually see the film, you’re just making assumptions based on reception. Most people don’t want to invest in the snyderverse and the cgi being wonky is keeping people away from this otherwise decent film.
>Most people don’t want to invest in the snyderverse
Not even Snyder's fans want to invest in this movie. So why was this movie made?
thats not what reception is based on moron,cinemascore is literally exit polling people out of the theatre on opening night, it also has awful legs, it objectively has bad reception
Muschietti seems like a guy who's able to work on a big IP and get shit done. After dealing with the nightmare that was The Flash and delivering a movie, imagine what he can do with a normal, not-tuck in development hell for a decade production.
The movie will have Damian Wayne and he directed It part one so he has experience working with kids.
>He’s already emphasized the importance of director driven films
This what making sweep changes to the already director driven films like Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom to the point where James Wan just gave up on ever working on capeshit movie anymore.
Clearly just damage control for the dying old regime
Whatever.
James Gunn can say whatever he wants, but the truth is that he always does the opposite.
He can't say that he will prioritize the directors while handing notes to all the movies currently in production thus forcing their directors to do reshoots just so the movies can abide to some half-brained continuity that won't matter anymore.
Or say that every new movie will have its own tone while once again handing out notes that ultimately force all the movies currently in production to all have the same kind of humor.
Yes. No one here wants to look at the bigger picture because people here are low IQ incels with agendas. The reality is that Flash was made under the old Warner Bros regime which was awful, that film went thru dozens of different renditions, endings, cameos, edits, etc. It sat on a shelf for years and was a victim of endless studio meddling, with no one knowing what exactly it should be. It was going to be a launch point for the new DCEU with Michael Keaton as Batman, then that idea got scrapped. Rinse and repeat
Lucasfilm is an awful company and Kathleen Kennedy is an awful productive and creative head with her own fierce political agenda that she implements into everything. James Mangold is a great director who was brave enough to say yes to being taken under Kathleen Kennedys wing. From everything we're hearing about Indy, positive or negative, people say the directing is great but the script/story is where it fails.
It's hard for this board to hear facts and take them into consideration when discussing these topics. It's easier to have a black and white view of the world and just say "GUNN BAD, GLASH BAD CUZ GUNN, INDY 5 BAD, INDY 5 BAD CUZ MANGOLD, MANGOLD BAD!"
That's why reddit is a far better place for actual film discussion
>then that idea got scrapped. Rinse and repeat
By Gunn.
James Gunn isn't the savior you're trying to paint him as. Gunn is just another exec adding his own rendition, ending, cameo, and edit to an already made movie.
The DCEU being shit canned is the best thing Gunns done. Why on earth would you keep that thing alive when it's just a gigantic cluster frick from start to finish? Next you'll tell me you LOVE Cavil and the Snyder verse, yet you didn't go out to support black adam, who's box office would've been the deciding factor on Cavil returning or not. You aren't supporting the movies, no one was, so it's done and they're moving on
>Why on earth would you keep that thing alive when it's just a gigantic cluster frick from start to finish?
The problem isn't that he shit-canned then, though him doing that cost the studio billions.
>he probably just told them to cut out post-credit scenes.
We know for a fact that he made the directors film new post-credit scenes just to add le ebin gag which audiences ironically hated it.
>Most of these movies coming out were already finished when he was hired to become DC's Feige.
He still made them stop their post-production and made the directors film new scenes either with his wife in it or some gag he thought funny just because he's the boss and he can meddle on things.
A good exec would have just left the directors do their thing, specially if said exec was worried about the directors having their own creative freedom.
The original post-credits scenes were probably gonna set up a potential Justice League 2.
According to ancient Flash movie leaks the original Flash ending involved the Flash hanging out with Keaton Batman, Superman, Supergirl, and the rest of the Justice League in a "New 52" inspired world when Batfleck pulls him into the Speed Force warning him about Darkseid coming back.
Shazam 2 was gonna end with a setup for Superman and Shazam vs Black Adam.
>The original post-credits scenes were probably gonna set up a potential Justice League 2.
The biggest difference is that the original ending felt like a proper conclusion with Michael Keaton's Batman and Sasha Calle's Supergirl showing up again with a promise for more adventures. It was a hopeful ending. It gave audiences a good feeling. That's why the test screening had such a popular word of mouth.
Meanwhile the ending Gunn created for the movie is just some gag with George Clooney's Batman where we see the Flash's teeth fall and doesn't even explain anything.
Clooney isn't the Gunnverse's Batman so there's no explanation or connection to the reboot. You'd think Gunn changed the ending to make things clearer for the audience about the reboot, but nope. It is just a dumb gag.
The ending also wasn't test screened because it was a last minute thing Gunn imposed on the production. It also the new ending left audiences feeling conflicted because now the movie make it seem that the Flash didn't resolve anything. Keaton's Batman and Calle's Supergirl died over and over for nothing. The world the audience was invested in disappeared. The Flash is in some unexplained new place with a new Batman they've no connection to.
They couldn't go with the original ending and post-credits because the DCEU is canceled. They went with the gag one. The movie couldn't end in a cliffhanger setting up the next Justice League which is never gonna happen.
>The ending also wasn't test screened because it was a last minute thing Gunn imposed on the production. It also the new ending left audiences feeling conflicted because now the movie make it seem that the Flash didn't resolve anything. Keaton's Batman and Calle's Supergirl died over and over for nothing. The world the audience was invested in disappeared. The Flash is in some unexplained new place with a new Batman they've no connection to.
Maybe the reboot gets installed in the post-credits of Aquaman 2... which is the last of the DCEU films.
Flashpoint ends with war between Atlantis and the Amazons destroying the planet.
Maybe Aquaman 2 ends like Justice League Dark Apokolips war and the original Flashpoint.
Aquaman defeats the "big bad" but the Earth is thrashed. Gonna slowly die.
Aquaman asks Barry to run back in time again in the final scene.
Post credits or second post credits ends with David Corenswet talking off his dress shirt.
Spoilers...
>They couldn't go with the original ending and post-credits because the DCEU is canceled.
THEY COULD. Just don't follow on the promises the ending is making.
The gag ending promised more George Clooney's Batman and we all know nobody will ever follow up on that. It is the same thing, but one ending is feel better as a conclusion for the movie than the other..
He is a vindictive cut. He could get so much good will if the end of Aquaman had a sober scene with all the JL people reflecting on the past movies, showing appreciation and hinting on possible future adventures down the line. Just give them some kind of nice sendoff for the shit they had to deal with.
I'm not even talking about the second ending where you had Henry Cavill's Superman and Gal Gadot's Wonder Woman appear in it, though that would also be a nice send-off to the whole DCEU era.
I am talking about the original ending that had just Keaton and Calle's characters in it. Because that ending shows the audience that the characters they've been following throughout the whole movie: ie Miller's Flash, Keaton's Bats, Calle's Supergirl, are all well and fine. It also promises that the world is now fixed by Miller's Flash because the Miller's Flash is still in that world where these characters exist. So audiences can leave the theater with this nice feeling that the heroes are well and the world is fine.
homie black adam had nothing to do with the snydervers the rock just wanted to fight cavill superman
You can't argue with moronic people, so why are you trying to do it?
>why didnt ti support black adam?
the " cameo" was a last minute thing because black adam was being booed at comic con. You cant just film a whole fricking movie and tack on some Snyder bait at the end. DC have been trying to bait fans for years. frick that. Plus the scene leaked on Twitter. money saved. And it wouldn't have been a contunation of the Snyder verse. it woudl have been the rockverse. stop talking bullshit. DC is poper fricked. its fricked for the remaing films, aint noone watching createure commandos animation, certainly no one give a frick about amanda waller. so its gonna be 5/ 6 movies of dc back to back flops. ANd then waht? His superman is gogn to save the day? JAmes frickign gunn? the guy who did the shitty suicide waude and the god awful guardians of the glaxy 2? Better than synder and Nolan? GET THE FRICK OUT OF HERE.
>That's why reddit is a far better place for actual film discussion
Lol then why don't you go back to your little hugbox and stay there fricking homosexual ass Black person
>director-driven films are important
>just not those by genuine auteurs with interesting if difficult visions like Based Zack Snyder
Did Snyder not put out or say something against the chosen?
The Star Wars curse jumped to nu DC.
...I liked The Flash. Was it great? No. Was it okay? No. Was in somewhere between 50% and 100%? Yes.
Where? No idea.
ITS LIKE THIS CHUDS AND HEAR ME OUT
DONT HIRE KATHLEEN KENNEDY OR JAMES GUNN TO DIRECT OR WRITE YOUR MOVIES. SIMPLE AS.
stop consuming product.
Zack Snyder sacrificed his daughter and put an eternal blood curse on Warner Brothers for ousting him from the DCEU
this idiot is making his own shit and then call flash the best ever. why care about your shit now.
Yes whoever heard of James Mangold ever making an acclaimed comic book film.
inb4 some moron goes "but I didn't like it!" like that matters
>best x-men movie
>is just a ripoff of old westerns and the last of us
yeah I'm thinking he's a hack
>his only references are a vague "old westerns" (not even the one specifically referenced and shown in the movie) and a video game
lol
>makes a western with X-man backdrop
>y y yah it's just a reference bro
I'm mocking you for your incredibly tiny reference pool.
The movie sucked. Seriously.
Your opinion is irrelevant. It was acclaimed and successful.
Acclaimed by homosexuals and successful among morons. It’s not kino. It’s not art. It’s just a rare comic book movie that attempts to be “adult” and wasn’t handled in a completely shitty way.
It still sucks. It’s still capeshit. For its themes, there’s plenty of better cinema out there.
Your opinion is irrelevant. It does not matter what you thought of the film. OP's premise was false.
shit movie
The only thing he has fricked up so far is doing that presentation where he listed the new movies and announced Shazam, Flash and Aquaman would not be canon and Blue Beetle has questionable canon status. The moment he did this, he cost the studio a billion dollars. There is no reason why he couldn't have done that later or kept the canon status of those movies up in the air.
The true frick up is that there isn't a plan. Gunn is serving the re-heated projects that Walter Hamada left on the table.
Green Lantern Corps series that is described as True Detective is that same Green Lantern TV show that was being produced where you'd have several Green Lanterns over the ages investigating shit on Earth and Guy Gardner was depicted as a toxic and sexist chud from the 80s.
The Paradise Lost series about the Wonder Woman cast that is described as Games of Throne is the same Wonder Woman related TV show that was being produced where it was nothing but lesbian relationship drama and fantasy politics.
Even the Booster Gold series that was announced was already in production before.
The only new thing Gunn announced was Superman: Legacy and The Authority and even those might have elements from MoS 2 and Justice League 2 (no, not the Snyder's one, the one Hamada wanted to do where it was filled with gay characters and female characters)
you're extremely deluded if you think that more than a couple hundred thousand people both watched the video or read the article of him saying this, and actually cared and got mad about it.
The movies will succeed or fail regardless of Gunns words here, him saying they're not "canon" is irrelevant, Joker wasnt canon, but it made a billion.
you are deluded that normies on FB and Twitter aren't constantly bombarded by Marvel and DC news even for shit they didn't sign up for. I think on Twitter I follow maybe one Marvel based account and I constantly get suggestion tweets from thousands of Marvel and DC accounts giving me rumors and happening even though I didn't ask for it.
>Joker wasnt canon
False comparison. Joker wasn't in canon originally and taken out and told they are done with the character in that universe after that. For all we know we may get a Joker 3.
God why are 99% of whataboutisms on this site pure fricking dishonest trash?
Joker isnt canon because its in its own universe, its just a story that people liked, i doubt anyone will care much about Joker 2 and it will do 500million at best WW in cinemas.
Its nothing like a false comparison, there will be no continunity within a greater DC universe, do i have to argue with you about the color of the sky during the day too moron?
you don't know the first fricking thing about normies if you think they're gonna care about spoilers or Gunns statements or anything, they have far bigger concerns, get outside of your own head and touch some fricking grass jesus, the dumb fricking neurotic shit anons buy into on these boards is truly insufferable sometimes.
This sort of shit, is exactly why at least half of Cinemaphiles predictions for movies are wrong. Many of you know very little about human psychology and it shows.
>Joker
Again Joke was always from day 1 its own thing so the canon argument didn't factor at all. You were wrong. Stop replying on dishonest whataboutisms all the time you low iq frick.
I use social media like normies and like normies I am constantly bombed with referred posts from "Marvel Fans UK" or "Marvel Fans Mexico" or any random fricking Marvel page I never subscribed to telling me the days news so frick off, you were wrong.
you're both hopeless (assuming you aren't the same autist), here's your (you), pretend you were right, this arguments a waste of my time, success or failure means nothing here, you've both set yourselves up to pretend you were nostradamus's whatever happens, its easy to be a smooth brain and assume everythings going to bomb, most films do these days.
you know James Mangold has made OTHER movies than Indy 5 right?
Superman Legacy will flop because classic Superman has no mainstream appeal, we aren't in the 70's anymore. American zoomers don't want a white guy living the 'american way'.
You forget the "american way" now would be Superman saving a black man from being George Floyd'd while lecturing the police on their white privilege. If they do that, they will be fine.
Unironically the biggest thing Superman has going for him right now is that he's the vanilla as frick superhero. Decades of flawed supers, evil supers, ineffective supers, grimdark supers, morally ambiguous supers, rape supers, they've done fricking everything. Just like how people fricking loved Top Gun Maverick partly because it was an optimistic and fun movie where the good guys won and that was it, I think a Superman movie with a similar tone could do really well today.
>Just like how people fricking loved Top Gun Maverick partly because it was an optimistic and fun movie where the good guys won and that was it, I think a Superman movie with a similar tone could do really well today.
But we already get that with the MCU
All their hopes rest on the Wonder Woman recast.
If they get it wrong they'll have no choice but to go back and do only Batman flicks every 3-4 years.
Sony is doing a Madam Webb movie with a bunch of attractive woman. I hope they have the balls to give comic accurate costumes and then that movie regardless of bad it is makes close to a billion so they just give up and go with attractive woman again
fingers crossed for a different interpretation
Those two guys were hired out to finish movies they weren't involved in from the start.
The Flash director inherited some development hell script and cast.
The movie was cast and ready to shoot before filiming was delayed for like 2-3 years after Fumuyiwa(?) left.
Mangold was stuck dealing with Disney woke execs and 80 year old Harrison Ford.
Gunn and Discovery are offering these dudes greater creative control. It will probably make the difference.
I will not pass judgement till I see Superman. I don't think Gunn is stupid. He has his quirks but he seems professional and gets what people want. Superman could be a big deal for him because it can show people that "Hey I can actually make a movie that isn't stupid humor" but that movie will give us a good indication of the future
>Gunn and Discovery are offering these dudes greater creative control. It will probably make the difference.
See
. Gunn is offering them old scripts and old productions but with a new coat of paint.
>Gunn and Discovery are offering these dudes greater creative control. It will probably make the difference.
By saddling the directors with even more notes and mandates?
If Gunn truly cared about giving directors creative control he would cross his arm and let the directors of the movies that are right now in production just do whatever the frick they wanted, specially when these movies won't matter given the upcoming reboot.
But he didn't do that. Instead he added more changes on top of the previous ones given the directors even more constrain. Now the directors have to change the previously established plans and redo stuff to accommodate Gunn's wishes.
James Wan is so tired of this bullshit he announced he won't be doing a third Aquaman movie and will probably never work on a superhero movie again.
That right there is a good director who could have been charmed for more projects, but the dude is so tired of dealing with executives constantly shifting shit behind his back and telling him what to do that now he just wants to be done with it all.
He quit before he was fired. Discovery is never gonna make another Aquaman set in the Snyderverse, even if it makes 1 billion dollars.
They're gonna totally reboot Aquaman.
>the tone of WE MISSED OUT ON UNDERWATER BATMAN WITH A BAT-SUB
Jesus Christ, this is embarrassing.
he probably just told them to cut out post-credit scenes.
I said greater creative control, not total. WB during Snyder got really draconian and executive meddling allegedly ruined several films. They could shelve the Flash filming for like 3 years but couldn't let Snyder mourn his daughter for a few months. Jumped at the chance to replace him with Joss Whedon, forced moronic reshoots and the moronic CGI moustache.
Then they fricked with dudes making the Flash, forced Fumuyiwa to quit.
WB was run by complete morons.
Gunn's meddling in Shazam, Black Adam, and the Flash was basically limited to post-credits shit. Most of these movies coming out were already finished when he was hired to become DC's Feige.
/co/pe the post lmao
DC fanboys always do this.
been a snyder fan since the beginning glad to see dc fall without him
>The Suicide Squad has b cinemascore and flopped
>lets put him in charge of everything
overly saturated Superman is going to be quipping and saving kittens while smiling non-stop
yes no other superhero films he ever directed, not one
We're talking about a guy that forces directors to add his own wife as a cameo in their movies but homies here are trying to make him into some auter fighting for le creative freedom. Top kek.
to be she is boner fuel
>gunn types like a redditor cuck
>while snyder types with complex hints to what's to come
Zack Snyder has never had a complex thought in his entire life.
>t. filtered
There's nothing complex in BvS. It's laughably simplistic yet pretentious.
Ok r*dditor.
why are all your posts so basic?
Discussing with r*eddit is a waste of time.
You left the e in by mistake.
>superman saves a girl from a building on fire
>people praise him then start to project their messiah image on to him
>superman turns from pleased to concerned
still needs movies to tell you how to think?
They just need to stop making unforced errors. Gunn should learn to keep his trap shut. And stop announcing things until there's good reason.
>lets ignore than Peter Safran has been producing all the recent DC bombs together with the last DC Films president, Walter Hamada
>lets ignore that James Gunn was brought by Hamada and Safran and did one of the biggest DC bombs
>lets ignore that Gunn has only ever done one kind of superhero movie which is exactly the same as all other Marvel movies
>lets ignore that most of the new projects Gunn announced as his own are in fact old projects that Hamada had announced before and started pre-production on
>lets ignore that most of these not-so new projects were and still are Safran projects
>lets ignore that since Gunn gained power as a CEO he has been meddling in projects and not for the best as shown with The Flash
But trust the plan. The future is bright. Gunn truly respect creative freedom.
Brave and the Bold
Swamp Thing
Only in name. These movies weren't in pre-production. These guys he's hired will get to cast the new Swamp Thing, the new Batman.
>Brave and the Bold
That's literally the Batman project Ben Affleck wanted to do. Why do you think Gunn wanted Affleck back so much?
I'm starting to think the DCU now partly revolves around causing Ben as much pain and grief as possible
Unironically one of the most embarrassing moments in dc history (and there have been a lot in the last decade alone)
tehy alweady made a fantasic swamp thing tv series. ANd dc cancelled it before it aired.
wtf was zaslav thinking
>Oh shit, Snyder won't come back, Todd Phillips is refusing and Matt Reeves wants nothing to do with the dceu. Who the frick do I hire to run this thing who might be competent? Wait! Didn't Gunn's film get good reviews? And people watched and liked his show right? And he was basically the showrunner for the space side of the mcu. It has to be him or we're fricked!
Hindsight is a b***h
not making stand alone movies will be the death of DC, instead they still wanna build a cinematic universe
Would Gunn try another Batgirl film after the previous disaster? I just want a cute Cass film (not the runt in Birds of Prey)
Yes but he'll cast his wife as Batgirl
Nooo she needs to be asian for us yellowfeverbros
>cameos in Shazam
>it bombs
>cameos in the flash
>it bombs
>cameos in Fast X
>it bombs
gadot siblings...
If James Gunn was smart he'd shut up and let the current movies run their course without changing anything about them.
Then he'd announce that the reboot is just a new universe that they'd focus on, but the adventures of the old universes would still happen somewhere in the multiverse and that he'd love to continue them in the future. Throw lots of praise to Zack Snyder and Tim Burton. Lots of promise of bringing them back for future projects.
There. Simple as frick. This way you keep the goodwill and get to do your thing without people giving you shit.
honestly this a quite reboot would've worked much better than this shit show watching the flash just made me appreciate MoS even more
The Superman fight being the center of everything in the universe was a good idea even though it was never Snyder's plan originally.
they should've let snyder make his superman sequel then build a universe from that, but instead we a got a rushed underdeveloped DCEU with some good movies but mostly average to bad ones
Right?
No need to handle out notes and give the directors even more of a headache. Just give some empty promises that Michael Keaton's Batman will be back in the future in the world audiences watched. Throw in some empty praise to Tim Burton. Say you'd love to see an Elseworlds movie with Burton and Keaton, BUUUT not now. Now you need to build up this universe. Who knows, there might be a cross-over in the future. Yadda, yadda, yadda.
But nope. Gunn had to change the movie in the last minute just to add his dumb ideas, he had to post on Twitter about the movie not mattering anymore just to see it bombing. Now he has to run mea culpa with Blue Beetle promising that the movie is canon to the DCU but not really. Just over-complicating things for general audiences.
I don’t think general audiences are reading his twitter posts
You really think grandpa in the theater understood why George Clooney showed up at the end of the movie?
He should have just released them one after the other, every other month.
>Shazam 2 in January
>The Flash in March
>Blue Beetle in May
>Aquaman 2 in August
Done and done. The cgi is so shitty in Flash that it feels unlikely that the films need more time to have that worked on - they clearly don't care.
Gunn can't handle cosmic characters for shit. Look at Starro, look at Adam Warlock His Superman will end up to be even more of a laughing stock than the Flash played by Ezra has ever been and will bury the nu-DC(E)U before it even starts
gunn going full autist on superman would make for an interesting movies but that's unlikely he's gonna play it safe and do a reeve rehash that's gonna be as bland as superman returns and will bomb too
Here's a truth most people won't like.
James Gunn is unoriginal as frick. Guardians of the Galaxy and The Suicide Squad are almost the same movie structurally and character wise. Gunn also stole several concepts and scenes from the Deadpool movies.
Gunn also has been stealing concepts and scenes from Zack Snyder's DC movies. Brightburn is unironically a remake of Man of Steel with a slasher-horror bent.
Superman: Legacy will have so many scenes and gags and twist lifted directly from past Superman movies that it will feel like you're watching The Batman 2.0. Just an overwhelming feeling of "i've already seen that" over and over again.
>anon believes Man of Steel invented Superman
>Just an overwhelming feeling of "i've already seen that" over and over again.
Rather ironic given Snyder's entire MO is to just flatly take images from films he's seen or coffee table books he's flipped through and recreate them, and call that deep.
>makes an homage to good scenes from kino films
vs
>rehashes characters and make them act similar to his previous movies "gunn"
It's not a "homage" when the entire film just consists of recreated images with no meaning attached.
>with no meaning attached.
>t. low iq capshitter
ALL HAIL SNYDER
https://blog.apaonline.org/2016/03/29/batman-v-superman-film-philosophy-with-mark-d-white/
https://cinemadebate.com/2017/11/23/the-metaphysics-of-batman-v-superman/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2016/04/01/interview-zack-snyder-discusses-themes-behind-batman-v-superman/?sh=5305ac2d7104
https://cinemadebate.com/2017/11/23/the-metaphysics-of-batman-v-superman/#:~:text=A%20central%20theme%20in%20the,a%20greater%20power%2C%20also%20corrupts.
https://www.popmatters.com/batman-superman-dawn-justice-snyder
https://cinemadebate.com/2019/03/21/men-are-still-good-an-analysis-of-batman-in-batman-v-superman/
snyder is the kojima of film making
i like how this just proves anon correct that all he does is flat recreations
>tier 1
Snyder films look good and that's all
>tier 2
snyder just makes references to other media
>tier 3
snyder surface level metaphors have more to them
>tier 4
snyder make deep complex films that delves into our deep nature of how we project our views of the world on to art
>tier 5
we've been trolled by snyder all this time
And the Snydergay opened his folder. Thread dead.
>Superman: Legacy will have so many scenes and gags and twist lifted directly from past Superman movies
not just that it's an origin story on the daily planet with lex as the main bad guy ther's literally no reason to watch it
>in b4 it's not an origin story
superman will be learning the ropes on how to become the superman we all know.
all creatives works are to some degree deriative of older works, ALL creative works, ALL. Your argument is trash, yes he steals ideas, everyone does, but they aren't blatant copies, well, except GotG and Farscape, but i've been wanting a form of Farscape to enjoy again for YEARS, i'll take Gunns variation because thats all im gonna get, although he really fricked up with Gamora's plotline, whatever.
When will capeshit die?
The problem with this thread is that it's impossible to assume good faith from snyderBlack folk. So almost all "discussion" and "analysis" is completely pointless.
It's not really the directors' fault though. The Flash just had a cursed production and Indiana Jones is rancid IP, both directors have shown that they are capable of making ok movies.
Also it's rare that directors get blacklisted for making flops. They get work as long as they get shit done and are not a pain in the ass.
well he's no kubrick thats for sure