!Do NOT namegay UNLESS you post a NEW, FINISHED comic!
Post and discuss all webcomics, whether it’s your creation or one you enjoy.
>FAQ
>How do I make a comic?
https://blambot.com/pages/comic-script-basics
https://design.tutsplus.com/articles/how-to-storyboard-basic-guides-for-aspiring-artists--cms-30962
https://www.clipstudio.net/how-to-draw/archives/160963
https://design.tutsplus.com/tutorials/create-a-comic-how-to-plan-and-lay-out-your-comic--cms-24179
>What if I can’t draw?
https://www.clipstudio.net/how-to-draw/archives/160863
https://www.archisoup.com/architecture-line-types-and-weights
https://www.creativecomicart.com/basics-part-1.html
https://www.creativebloq.com/advice/how-to-colour-comics
https://jaejohns.com/drawing-backgrounds/
>What’s the best site to upload to?
https://www.domestika.org/en/blog/4757-6-free-websites-to-publish-your-own-comic-online
https://comicfury.com/
https://globalcomix.com/
https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/
>How do I get more people to read my comic?
https://www.thingsinsquares.com/blog/how-to-optimize-comics-for-google-search/
https://leetoo.net/how-to-promote-and-drive-traffic-to-your-webcomic/
https://html.com/blog/50-resources-start-making-a-webcomic/
>Guidelines for a successful thread
1-Stay on topic, no one cares about your personal drama.
2-Talk about your creative process.
3-Ask questions, give answers. This thread isn’t here just to promote your ego.
4-Explain criticism. People will only get better if they actually have an explanation for why something doesn’t work in their comic. Just saying “this is shit” does nothing.
5-Don’t be a b***h when someone gives you criticism. It’s fine to disagree with their point, but don’t take it personally.
6-Don’t beg for fanart. This isn’t the drawthread and nobody owes you anything.
7-Don’t complain I’d nobody replies to your post. You aren’t entitled to a (you)
8-Have fun and create stuff
>Thread Challenge
Draw one of your comic's antagonists.
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Dead general
Fred made thread dead.
Someone reported my comic for 'hate speech' and webtoon deleted an episode.
Why are we still here, just to suffer?
kek, whats your comic and what was the "hatespeech"
also
this is one of the reasons why i dont post to webtoon
It says Buenas Noches Dana.
Dude just needs to post it.
https://tapas.io/series/Goodnight-Dana
https://www.webtoons.com/en/canvas/goodnight-dana/list?title_no=839366
I never had any trouble with the english version, it was the spanish version of the chapter 4 that got reported.
Webtoon didn't specify which part of the chapter contains the alleged hate speech. A character simply says 'motherfricker,' and that's it.
that's clearly hateful towards mother frickers
You dont need to namegay if you actually post your work. People can recognize the art. If you want to namegay, unironically go to reddit
Explain how it changes anything. You can't. Shut up
>reddit
Whining about superficial shit as if Reddit invented the concept of names doesn't change that you act like a homosexual redditor.
Shut the frick up you delusional child. You can't make the world your playground, you're going to keep grasping for control until you finally give up and focus on grasping your dick instead.
You have NO power, probably came here 2 years ago, and refuse to POST YOUR WORK. Either it doesn't exist or you're too terrified to post it, so you don't belong here and you're projecting.
This is my one place to post my work, speak again to try to prevent me from gaining readership and I'll send out a boatload of consequences to the people who trained you to act like this.
I so badly wish that you would die in a car accident already or whatever boogeyman you’re afraid of gets you
>You dont need to namegay if you actually post your work. People can recognize the art. If you want to namegay, unironically go to reddit
untrue. my style varies and no one recognizes my work from one to the next lmao. which is fine, but i can understand why other people dont want to fall into that trap. plus, theres a reason names are an option on Cinemaphile. its a feature that might as well be used
I genuinely mad. Your comic is excellent, I can’t believe it got false flagged.
I’m a fan and I can honestly saw nothing was hate speech
Thank you for reading!! I was in the middle of writing a 25000 word essay just complaining about webtoon not responding my emails, and then they send me this.
>Uncensored foul language is not allowed on WEBTOON. Words like 'shit,' 'frick,' 'prostitute,' etc., need to be edited.
So that's it. I'm going to have to censor a bunch of things in the upcoming chapters.
Thank you very much. To be honest, I don't have much confidence in my drawing skills, but I'm really glad you like it. As for the dialogue, many people have told me that English isn't my strong suit, and rightly so; I struggle to figure out how to express myself. I agree that it's much easier to read my comic in Spanish, but I'll do my best to improve the English version.
That’s a shame. I feel like your use of foul language adds to the characters and the atmosphere. It’s not gratuitous.
It sucks you have to censor yourself, but at least you don’t be deplatformed.
I still have no idea how profanity counts as hate speech
People have come down on me too, like on my Webtoon I was depicting literally Cinemaphile and someone demanded I troffer warn the word “gay”
Trigger warn, lol sorry I’m being a shitty phone poster because I’m not at home
>you need to include trigger warnings in order to make an artist depictions of toxic behavior online
Jesus. You know what kills artistic intent? Having to put a disclaimer in front of it. It’s like people these days are demanding worse content
It’s bullshit, but I brought it on myself because I used to run around that ‘crowd’, ironically Cinemaphile helped me loosen up
We all have been parts of circles we’re not particularly proud of today. It’s part of the human experience.
I was definitely in the opposite side as a hardcore edge lord type in the 2010’s due to being on Cinemaphile and ED too much. These days I’ve mellowed out and been more accepting of different people and ideas.
I’ve been lurking the boards a long time since like the 00s when it was more acceptable but I started being ashamed and distancing myself when I joined Tumblr
It's a mixed bag though the overall maturity has increased slightly. Still has endless trolls, drama and arguments that're a waste of time and energy.
Be thankful you don't have to deal with furry porn art groups; death itself cringes at them in disgust.
I’ve been on this site since 2007. I’ve seen it transform a lot over the years and honestly I’m not proud of a lot of the things I said and the ways I acted.
But I was young. I had barely turned 13 when I started coming here and basically grew up on this site.
I did distance myself a bit around 2015 or so, but since 2018 I’ve been back to using it every day. It’s definitely a part of who I am and almost all of my best friends today were people I met on Cinemaphile
foul language is not allowed on WEBTOON.
But gay anal sex is allowed and featured all the time.
I’ve seen all kinds of sexual shit on that site but god forbid someone want so cuss
I'm sorry that happened, I read your comic and there's nothing explicit enough to warrant a takedown. I imagine this is an overreaction due to their most recent nxxxxx controversy, and you happened to get caught up in the fire.
got back to working on The One Man Show and a new upd8 is now out
https://theonemanshow.neocities.org/
man what happened to these threads? im gone for a while and it all dies?
you and your gay clownboi kept it alive
>im gone for a while and it all dies?
Someone decided to start baking in the middle of the week, so a bunch of narcissistic nodraw namegays decided to blogpost and shitpost for attention.
i see
i hope these threads arent completely kill tho
A lot of creators seem to have been weathering the storm in the yellow boards, but if people start actually posting good insight and work instead of "the dramagay (un)variety hour," it'll recover.
All of these shitposters are farts in the wind that'll be forgotten as they frick off, since thy have nothing to add and thus nothing to be remembered by
clown chad is back on it hell yeah!
Cool
Nice art.
>https://theonemanshow.neocities.org/
I just started reading your comic. the lines are clean and it looks really professional. I appreciate the disclaimer at the beginning, and the pacing of the intro is delightful. I'm fascinated with the main character, and i love how absolutely dynamic the setting and movements are. My only gripes right now are that you dont have a functional about page or a functional guestbook. I feel like an about page would really help me understand what to look forward to in your comic even more, helping me keep it in the back of my mind. The guest book also seems important (esp. a modded one) so I can see what other people are talking about, like fan theories or talking about other things they've seen from you. I feel like the sense of community is missing from your work as a brand, even though the concept/art itself is there. I hope you're able to get those things running soon, because the rest is a great start to a long and cool body of work.
tapas is doing this super weird thing where its loading the pictures really slow. im wondering if that's due to the large size files being uploaded?? I'm not super sure how all that works. After I like, waited a few minutes for all the pictures to load though I see a comic with a really pleasing artstyle and great pacing. It's hard to nail that vertical format pacing but I think you've really got it. There are a few typos and grammar issues in the english version, so perhaps look into getting an english beta reader or a good editor, because otherwise these issues take away from the gravity of the drama being displayed. I appreciate your use of colors, they're very down to earth while also popping. I want to pay more attention to the story, but I keep getting distracted by those grammar issues and only slightly awkward dialogue so I'm having trouble wanting to click episode 2. I have a feeling that in the (original?) spanish, its a much smoother read.
We need more comics about clowns
Semi relevant, I've actually been trying to make a comic about a circus. The only thing stopping me is the current detour to learn how to draw men better.
the art style is really cute. really unclean, but there is a charm to that. i think that backgrounds and colors could add a lot of good to what already has a lot of energy. I bet this is a rough draft/sketch, but in my opinion your art doesn't need to improve. I think what you need to focus on now is 1) drawing bubbles and placement, 2) backgrounds 3) cleaning up your sketches -- not even adding lineart, but just cleaning what you already have, and 4) backgrounds with color. I think the guy looks fine, and other aspects of what I mentioned is more important to completing a finished work. If you're not happy with how you draw men I do get that, but to me both the clown and the other guy feel both like men at a glance, and I like the variance in character design so I think it's fine. The distinct style difference between characters already gives this feel that you know what you're doing to the reader. Anyway, best of luck.
Okay I laughed. I wasn't sure what to expect from this, but STRESSFUL & STRESSFUL got me. Also the multicultural elements are actually really cute. I'm not a huge fan of very cartoon-y art styles so I almost didn't give this a chance, but it's pretty wholesome. I'm interested in seeing what you do in the future.
i have respect for you, pizza guy dude
So sad Paps is only in this chapter for a tiny amount of time, I love drawing her
after almost a year i just finished the third chapter.
i finished a draft in like two weeks maybe a month if i have a lot of work.
Any tips to streamline the process?
yo this looks so cool and beautiful and well paced that i unironically have the inclination to want to wait until its finished so i can binge it all in one go. It's just so pretty and moody. There are a lot of different camera angles for interest and the lines and toning only gets better as it goes. I can feel the love of the work in the lines. I can definitely see why the drafting process would take so long. I'm not one to draft my work quickly either *two works for a single chapter for me, yeesh), so I do understand your dilemma. Recently for me, I realized that my process was really different from others, and not doing what worked for me hindered my work. I'm
so that's what my personal process is like. If you want to get faster at drafting, perhaps set a timer and try to see how much you can get done within 30 minutes to an hour of drafting every day, then spend the next ten minutes self-critiquing ithat draft. I also hear that making a single line on something every day helpes you think about it and get faster at at (I have tried this with drafting myself and it did help, but I couldnt commit.) Godspeed to your work anon, I hope you continue to make badass pages in the future.
Just finished a comic! I’m on a streak!
like the style anon.
where can i read?
Over here on my tapas
https://tapas.io/series/Comrieion-Comics/ep68
>!Do NOT namegay UNLESS you post a NEW, FINISHED comic!
Im not disagreeing, but i have questions about the logistics of this.
>unclear if new comics to Cinemaphile or new in general
also,
>people have names when posting one-page comics
>people who post comics have names when talking about techniques to replying to comments about their comics
in this case, nothing has changed
If I ain't seen it, it's new to me.
Also,
who post comics have names when talking about techniques to replying to comments about their comics
Not a problem since the thread's latest batch of shitposters don't have a comic.
After moving, getting married, having a child, and being in a slump for a few years, I am finally starting work on this project again. I hope to share more soon. Happy first day of fall everyone
>/Hyw/ people are breeding
Oh dear lord
In all seriousness congratulations on the family hope things go well!
page, revealing Fiadh's goal in getting to Sarkesa.
https://tapas.io/episode/2932056
genuinely excellent, congrats on the marriage.
link to this? I remember it getting quite a bit of praise but I never got around reading it.
https://medibang.com/mpc/episodes/962309170714006460009036150/
Congrats on getting praise by the manga team. Hope your future stays bright
>multiple most read awards
>official recognition of excellence
>66k views
Get fricked Terra, you’re nothing even on your obscure platform
This isn’t some shitty contest. Just because someone has greater success does not mean someone else can’t enjoy their smaller success. The fact that both managed to put out work at all is worth celebrating.
Their comics aren’t even in the same genre, one does not effect the other in any way.
Instead of shitting on both comics to try and hurt one person, try to make your own stuff or gtfo
is also in tapas but i still havent uploaded the 3rd chapter
https://tapas.io/series/Harvest-/info
I read the first chapter of your work, and there are a lot of good points. For one, the panels arrangements are very fun and interesting and dont take away from the flow of your story. Honestly not many people are able to make a fantastic page layout that is varied and also easily readable. I think many people could learn from you. Furthermore, the gifs that pop up in your story are really cool and just give it that extra pop, and I never expect when it will happen. Things like that really escalate your world and make it feel whole. I really like the character dynamics and the power play that always feels like its at work. The brutality of the fights feel earned and are satisfying. The line weight and character faces can be rough on the eyes (which takes away from the varied expressions), but I can also see your art improving as he story goes on. All that said, you have 15.9k views and 86 subscribers so I feel like the ratio points to the idea that your comic still could use improvements. So as far as critique, I think there needs to be more establishing shots of the buildings and structures and where they are in comparison to the other settings. I don't really get a sense of where all the characters are in the world, and it just sort of feels like they appear and the backgrounds appear with them. Every place is very jumpy and jarringly different from the last. In chapter one for example, we see a bar, a tower, a sci-fi room, what seems to be a balcony, a farm, and a large clearing, and I don't have a lot of context for what is where. What backgrounds do show up are really blobby and clunky and its hard to tell what they are because of the lack of details. Theres also SO much lore being dumped at one time. Which CAN work in some stories, but I think with the jarring backgrounds and the rough linework can make your work feel overwhelming and also immature. There is a lot of passion here and I'm rooting for you.
>All that said, you have 15.9k views and 86 subscribers so I feel like the ratio points to the idea that your comic still could use improvements.
Not Ardhi, but almost every form of content has a discrepancy from views to followers, that’s just how things are. So having less subs than views doesn’t mean quality is bad, there’s a lot of people who read what’s on the front page or people who read without an account. Just like how you can have millions of views on a YouTube video but only a few hundred K subs
thats a good point
whoooaaaa
thanks for reading and for the review!
I am, I have to say, painfully aware of most of these failings. I did try with the establishing shots (tower, inside of tower) but often I feel I'm bad at conveying them. I would ask you to read more and tell me if its something that becomes better or not as the story goes but, to be honest, you reading one chapter is already great and I dont want to push.
>lineweight
painful thing I have a lot of issue working with. guess is what I'll try to study after im done with my current practice.
Regarding readercount yeah, I think its pretty obvious that there might be some amateurish aspect of the writing or art in the first chapter scaring potential readers away. The loredump is the worse part. The first chapters are incredibly heavy in exposition and I struggle hard to make it natural. The result you see there was a lot of effort and its both a bit confirming yet dissapointing to know its still too heavy on it.
Anyways at this point im rambling too much to say that I agree with the critique. With that said, I do believe I get better in a few of those aspects. The issue is whether I want to fall for the trap of redoing chapter one to try to attract readers or I stick with it.
>thanks for reading and for the review!
oh yeah you're welcome!
>I would ask you to read more and tell me if its something that becomes better or not as the story goes
I subscribed so when I have more time I'll try to give it more of a shot.
>lineweight
I hear you with that. If you ever try doing the lineart in vectors, you can adjust the line width after you finish drawing them, which could be something to look into.Heres a tutorial of how to do that in clip studio paint. https://tips.clip-studio.com/en-us/articles/600#7426c312
>The issue is whether I want to fall for the trap of redoing chapter one to try to attract readers or I stick with it.
I'm just spitballing, but maybe theres a way to have the best of both worlds. Instead of redoing the first chapter, perhaps it would be good to make a one-shot that shows off your improved skills while also giving a tad bit of context for chapter one's exposition. For instance, if you made a one-shot prologue or something, it could point new readers towards your work while giving them context for your longer comic. Perhaps a potential story could be showing what your character was really getting into trouble for in those first chapters (getting tricked or helping people, actively being kind at his own time and expense) -- just as an example.
But thats just an idea and you can even do it further down the line when you're more comfortable, even. The important thing is that you're aware of your own work, which is hard to come by and can be a great asset for you.
>I'm just spitballing, but maybe theres a way to have the best of both worlds. Instead of redoing the first chapter, perhaps it would be good to make a one-shot that shows off your improved skills while also giving a tad bit of context for chapter one's exposition. For instance, if you made a one-shot prologue or something, it could point new readers towards your work while giving them context for your longer comic. Perhaps a potential story could be showing what your character was really getting into trouble for in those first chapters (getting tricked or helping people, actively being kind at his own time and expense) -- just as an example.
>But thats just an idea and you can even do it further down the line when you're more comfortable, even. The important thing is that you're aware of your own work, which is hard to come by and can be a great asset for you.
That's a good idea and what I'm planning to do one day with Oi- make a Bard School one shot that show's Young Bryan's journey through bard school. It might be jarring when readers go from the new art back to the old bad worst art in chapter one, but then again if they like they one shot enough they'll be more likely to stick with it because they know the art improves.
Thank you for the help anon.
Perhaps yeah something like that could work. I don't like prologues but it could be a kind of extension. I fear redoing the first chapter because I feel its a neverending cycle "shouldnt I also fix chapter 2 then?" and so on, but it does pain me a bit that I think the whole thing has some issues.
Either way for now I will focus on finishing this arc and then plan better. One thing I do know is that after my current chapter the exposition significantly tones down and the story kicks into gear.
You are exactly the kind of poster this general does not need. An egocentric cancer who does not make comics.
block all namegays, do not reply to namegays, do not interact with namegays. This is Cinemaphile, not reddit
Based, but namegays who make shit get a pass. Newbies need to get their branding out somehow.
K, going to message about 30 times, sending them my new Truth Bombs and stuff.
Before I permanently associate you with this (don't pretend like it doesn't work) please please post your work so I have something to laugh at too
And you do realize that acting so terrified of my horror artwork means it's highly successful right?
>can't draw
>can't afford artist
>3D art is taboo
>sprites are shit
>AI art is shit AND taboo
>literally no recourse
Making a comic is a great way to learn
Remember. If heathcliff can become a popular comic then anything can.
On that note, if you have no other recourse, then your only option IS to draw it yourself. There's no shortage of tutorials and guides online. It's only a matter of figuring out what exactly YOU want and then working towards it.
I'm in my thirties. It's too late to "learn" to draw.
>"Just do it, bro!"
You're all weirdly ignorant about how human physiology works.
>I'm in my thirties. It's too late to "learn" to draw.
youre right its too late for you
yknow why? because you have this attitude, you clearly dont comprehend drawing on even the most basic of levels to understand its a skill
its too late, but only because you decided it is
>blah blah blah platitudes blah blah "JUST DO IT, BRO!"
Why are you going out of your way to be as unhelpful as possible? I need options, not delusional crap.
>ask for advice
>get plenty of it
>"no i dont like it!"
ok
be a nodraw then lol lmao
You didn't give any advice. You repeatedly stated that I need to magically become an artist using the contents of my ass.
Give up and quit. If you need to be this spoonfed you'll never make it. That's my advice to you.
So you literally have NOTHING to say besides "Just do it, bro!". Okay, what if that's not an option? Then what?
I guess you're just not allowed.
>Okay, what if that's not an option?
How is that not an option?
There's an entire section in the OP of resources to get started learning how to draw
>How is that not an option?
I'm not in my formative years, and it is thus physically impossible to learn how to draw.
Small bump of my art, still quite happy with this even if it took me afew minutes.
then you will not 'pet the dog' anon and you never will, its best you leave never doing so.
>pet the dog
The frick are you on about?
What other anons eluded to was a comic about nodraws who complain insistently about 'being unable to draw' even though being handed countless pieces of books and media and documents such as linked in OP.
After one particular dull anon yammered on of being unable to do so even when other anon's best efforts to educate them, they had grown tired and made a comic best explaining the situation of a man who has 'Never pet a dog' and despite the owners best efforts of said dog to teach the man to do it, the man could not do so through there own ineptitude and unwillingness to let there own curiosity or adapt there situation to simply 'pet the dog'.
Sadly I do not have it on me but it best illustrates your situation, I do believe Bob Ross put it simply 'Any one could paint'. Not a matter of 'informative years' It is a matter of passion and curiosity and willingness to adapt to put what you feel on a canvas.
That's not a valid reason. You won't get professional-level, maybe, but most webcomic art doesn't need to reach that level. All you really need to do are learn the basics of anatomy (to give the subject shape), value (the differences and utilization between light and dark tones on a page), some basic composition, and some basic writing form ("Keep It Simple, Stupid," some of The Elements of Style, how to set up a joke, maybe some extra shit like Save The cat or the Hero's Journey but as long as you know what a 3-Act Structure is then you should be good).
There's a comic that gets passed around infrequently here where someone sees a dog being walked. The guy wants to pet the dog while its owners give him permission. He keeps making excuses that he doesn't know how and shit like that, and the owners keep getting frustrated because he doesn't even try. Eventually they leave and the dude just feels sorry for himself.
A modern day Aesop's Fable.
>That's not a valid reason.
Fricking PHYSICS isn't a valid reason? You're actually insane.
>You won't get professional-level
Which is unacceptable to modern audiences, who very vocally demand professional level quality.
>A modern day Aesop's Fable.
Sure, if you're an idiot. Petting dogs isn't a potential career trajectory.
You're the only person stopping you from drawing dude. The OP has links that are helpful on how to learn. All you're doing is giving up before you've even started. And none of us are gonna help you or teach you if you won't even do the bare minimum of pick up a pencil/pen and put it on paper. Hell even if you made a shitty MS Paint comic we'd probably be nicer. But here you sit complaining that you can't/won't. So you never will.
You can't just randomly learn to draw, dumbass. You gotta start that shit practically out of the womb or else it isn't happening. No amount of reference material or scam "art classes" is going to radically alter the way human physiology works.
>Bob Ross put it simply 'Any one could paint'
That coke snorting hippie was full of shit, and was lying for the sake of maintaining viewership.
There's literally an anon that started drawing at 27 and has found some success. Ive seen him improve drastically in the years he's been posting. Unless you have severe carpal tunnel, are missing a hand, or cannot see, you're just being a little b***h
Yes, you've seen him improve from being shit, to still shit.
And surprise surprise, it looks like fricking shit.
Are you gonna actually be helpful or not?
>The whining homosexual is actively attacking people for pointing at hobbyists
Please retire to a home you senile frick.
The guy working on "The Legend of the Chicken Knight" on webtoons is thirty as well and only started drawing like last year or something.
In other words, You're full of shit. Pick up a pencil and fricking draw or frick off Cinemaphile
OC cuz I was drawing Heloise and saw this
Ironically the circle tour OC drew is better than what the anon your parodying can likely accomplish
>Fricking PHYSICS isn't a valid reason
Oh I'm fricking sorry you're the one person on the goddamn planet who quantum tunnels his entire hand through the table when he tries to reach for a #2 pencil.
>Which is unacceptable to modern audiences
Foremost, have you been on Twitter? Taken a gander at any of the loregays for any beanmouth shit like Adventure Time?
Second, no. If it isn't complete crap and you have something going for it you can find a niche
Third, do you actually want to express yourself or find an audience? Because if all you care about is finding readers, then you have ZERO excuse since manga-styling is relatively easy to learn, has a larger audience right now, and is fully expected to be black and white.
>Petting dogs isn't a potential career trajectory.
Nether is sitting here whining.
Do you actually want help, or are you just here to feel sorry for yourself?
>Oh I'm fricking sorry you're the one person on the goddamn planet who quantum tunnels his entire hand through the table when he tries to reach for a #2 pencil.
I am apparently the only person who ages in whatever acid fueled candyland you seem to live in.
>Foremost, have you been on Twitter?
No. Also, you're full of crap. Look at any thread on Cinemaphile constantly nitpicking the shit out of absolutely everything. Audiences absolutely demand perfection.
>Do you actually want help, or are you just here to feel sorry for yourself?
I'm here to find a viable alternative.
>Aging
Look man, I don't know what physical impairment you might have, but it would probably help if you actually listed that kind of thing first instead of just saying "I'm too old" over and over again.
>Audiences absolutely demand perfection.
No, they don't. They expect the bare minimum of competence from studios with millions of dollars in backing. Webcomics do not get held to that same standard because there is only one or a few handfuls of people working ln them.
Think of it this way. A lot of people here post weekly at best, with slow pages (in terms of plot advancement) that don't have that muh substance. This shit would not fly in professional studios because it's their literal job to deliver that shit on a regular basis, but woth webcomics there's an understanding that most of the authors are hobbyists.
>I'm here to find a viable alternative.
To DRAWING?!? To learning the basics of art?
>"I'm too old"
That is literally the issue. Which is why I am asking if there any way to make a comic without needing to be able to draw.
>Webcomics do not get held to that same standard because there is only one or a few handfuls of people working ln them.
You've clearly never been in any of the Gunnerkrigg Court threads.
>To DRAWING?!? To learning the basics of art?
Yes.
>>To DRAWING?!? To learning the basics of art?
>Yes.
No.
Now shut up.
Come on, there has to be SOMETHING.
If you don't want to learn nor try, then there's nothing. There is literally not a sike answer we could give because you will try to find some excuse to avoid it.
I don't believe you. So what, I'm screwed? I should go back in time and tell my kid self to start drawing more?
Tell him to stop being a whiny homosexual.
While we're at it, you can tell your younger self to stop being an unhelpful piece of shit.
Then again, maybe I'm asking the wrong crowd, because you lot seem to be under the delusion that making comics is a hobby.
>because you lot seem to be under the delusion that making comics is a hobby
So you're in the camp of people who just see it as a means to an end.
Okay. Sure. Whatever. Let me get the banter out of the way before digging in a bit. You're not any different than that "how get seen figure reader" ESL guy earlier. If any of us are/were making it in the industry on that deep of a level, why would we help someone without any drive? Because you have a shit work ethic.
You might think your ideas are hot shit, but EVERYONE has ideas. If you don't want to bring forward some effort, there's no reason to give you a job over someone off the streets.
Now, go reel back the banter a bit (a bit), let's look at pic related.
Do you see pic related?
Do you see how amateur the art is?
This is from One Punch Man, which, in a short time, blitzed into a cultural phenomenon to the point where the S1 anime finale (because this got adapted into an anime) looked like this: https://youtu.be/ErXfj3sbIfU?si=YHfrHRitRdecsg9b
Because the writing was that strong.
ONE did not let his amateur art be a barrier because he had a story he wanted to tell, and it went places. And now the dude has two wildly successful series under his belt.
Seriously. If you want to start, then fricking START. If you wanbto get better, then, sure, whatever, you can ask, but you have to have made no effort.
We live in a virtual landscape where there is NO excuse not at least make an effort.
Why in the world did you bother wasting effort replying with a whole ass text that low-life obviously isn't going to read, or worse, make another big ass reply where he ignores everything you say and cries? Honestly with the way he types I think he might be the delusional "there are no sci-fi" comics idiot.
>So you're in the camp of people who just see it as a means to an end.
Said camp being known as "adults", yes.
>One Punch Man
It makes no sense whatsoever that that scribbled piece of shit ever got any attention. I call shenanigans on that. Dude must've known someone with pull.
No. One Punch Man just had a good story. The story itself is hilarious, and a deconstruction of the superhero genre (and I don't mean the lazy "what if bad thing good" type of criticism associated with that word, more closer to "why didn't the Avengers interfere in (insert MCU film here)" except answered.
Because the main browbeat against his excuses is to showcase that anyone can make it. If we're slowing down, then why not point out that kind of thing, that the bar for entry is a lot lower than a lot of people recognize.
>One Punch Man just had a good story.
No it didn't. It's a gag series about some bald moron who's bored of being too strong. It's literally ONLY popular because of memes of that one green haired chick everyone's horny for.
>the bar for entry is a lot lower than a lot of people recognize.
If that's true, then why won't you buttholes just tell me how to make a damn webcomic without defying the laws of physics?
>It's literally ONLY popular because of memes of that one green haired chick everyone's horny for.
That's a LOT of projection dude, especially considering how little of a roll Tornado plays in both the series and its memes.
You even watch the meteor bit? You even know who King is? Do you know why the Boros fight is a tragedy?
>then why won't you buttholes just tell me how to make a damn webcomic
Step (1): Draw, or learn how to.
If you can't learn this, then you're NGMI.
If you REFUSE to learn this, then you need to GET. THE. FRICK. OUT.
Well, she's the only thing about that series I ever see, and I really don't care anyway.
>Step (1): Draw, or learn how to.
I am literally too old to do that. What are my other options?
Tatsumaki is popular, but her younger sister, Fubuki, is the real waifu
>she's the only thing about that series I ever see, and I really don't care anyway
Stop going on e-girlbooru then.
>I am literally too old.
Unless you have a physical impairment (besides a whiny attitude, I mean something like a wrist that doesn't work), no you are not.
This is the last (you) you are getting from me.
>physical impairment
Yeah, it's called being fricking old.
anon's posting from the retirement home
>e-girlbooru
We e-girlcons prefer to use All the Fallen booru these days, thank you very much. And Tatsu isn’t e-girl enough for the most of us. Her hips are too thick, but it was nice to see her mostly naked for several chapters
He’s a parody of shounen protagonists.
As he literally says, the key to becoming strong is to trap so hard you lose your hair. Aka-to be the best in the series you need to be the most boring character.
Similarly, every single fight in the series has tons of build up with backstories and motivations, but they’re all useless because in the end the guy with no investment will show up and end it all immediately. It’s taking on the entire concept of the shounen manga genre and it does it excellently.
My problem with it is the original webcomic is better at that than the manga/anime. Yes the art is way worse, but it also doesn’t take itself as seriously while still telling a compelling plot. Meanwhile the manga and anime gets too caught up in waifus and being a generic shounen. The manga/anime literally miss the entire point.
>I'm not in my formative years
So did you lose the ability to learn at age 8 and just stop doing anything new? What the frick is this, how do you think the human brain works? The majority of humans don't have this problem, you're going to have to explain your issue in more detail because we can't relate.
You can't just pick up a new skill on a whim, and certainly not any artistic skill. You have to be a child prodigy, or nobody's going to take you seriously as a creator. If I did pick up a pencil and paper right now, the result would look like absolute garbage, and it'd be a waste of everyone's time.
The first drawing will be garbage. Yes. But it informs the second drawing, which informs the third and so on. You have to fail to figure out what you did wrong and improve.
Look at
This is the right mentality. “Not my best, but I tried new things.”
There are failures in this drawing, but an honest attempt was made with confidence and some interesting results came from it. The next drawing this anon does will be a better one, even if it’s only slightly.
You’re not going to create a masterpiece in your first 500 drawings. It’s a skill and it takes practice and understanding, both are impossible to begin with. Everyone starts at the same level.
>“Not my best, but I tried new things.”
And when said attempts inevitably result in failure because the audience still demands professional level quality? Then what?
Well, yeah. That is kinda how that works. A thing doesn't matter until it pops off. What is your point exactly?
Then you keep trying. It isn’t that hard.
Said artist this is referring to also has one of the more popular comics here, so you’re double invalid
>Then you keep trying.
Insert 'definition of insanity' meme here.
I neither know nor care who you are.
Yeah, so annoying. If only someone would answer my goddamn question about viable alternatives.
Write a book. There. Now fricking leave if you aren't going to make a fricking webcomic
Nobody reads books.
The fact that you improve with practice is why the Einstein misquote makes no sense.
He said “to retest expecting different results is just insanity” meaning that if the science is accurate the same result will happen each time and you’d be insane to assume it wouldn’t be the same.
That’s how science works, it only becomes a theory after you can replicate the results over and over.
He did not mean that to apply outside of the very specific context.
And? You still can't just become an artist via repetition if you lack innate talent. You're either born with what it takes, or you're not. For those of us in the later category, there ought to be some kind of recourse.
There are no viable alternatives.
There’s your answer.
>Insert 'definition of insanity' meme here.
you mean like asking the same question over and over again?
See, this why the AI shit gained so much traction. You "artists" are a bunch of gatekeeping buttholes.
>hobby
There you go using that word again.
>Anon confirms that AI gays are just people who couldnt into art so they cope by bringing everyone else down to their level
Well shiggy my diggy, niggy, who would've thunked it
>bunch of gatekeeping buttholes.
I won’t speak for anyone else, but I would totally be a gatekeeper, but there’s no point. Skill is the gate.
They’ll get bored and move on; it really is just a matter of time. I absolutely miss the sekrit klub days, but they’ll come again.
There's an entire section in the OP of resources to get started learning how to draw
Holy shit, stop replying to him already. He's obviously being a attention prostitute homosexual throwing a tantrum over nothing. He's done it before too and you guys fall for it everytime time, STOP
And that is completely useless to someone in their thirties with no prior drawing experience. There has to be some kind of alternative.
I'm 28 1/2 and you're a homosexual.
Ok, you've lost me, you went to far and I don't believe you're for real anymore. Next time you have to be more subtle with your bait
>"Thirty year olds don't exist. You have to be a troll."
... Fricking what.
When you're biggest hurdle is not being able to draw just picking up a pencil and drawing is the best place to start. You can't learn to draw if you never draw lmao
Someone post the "just pet the dog" comic.
>also kek yeah hes a genuine schizoid is he?
Yes. Look at his art and watch his Youtube for 20 minutes.
Here's some advice: make something of yourself or die. Hell devours the indolent
>I'm in my thirties. It's too late to "learn" to draw.
Bzzt wrong. It's never too late. If my mom could randomly pick up painting in her 40s then you can learn to draw.
Do you want to live the life of a coward who doesn't even try to pursue a dream? Can you live with yourself if you don't even so much as try?
>can't draw
thats how you learn
>can't afford artist
gotta have a reeeeal good idea and story written out for that, you cant hire first and then YOLO it from there, dont make that mistake
>3D art is taboo
who cares, if you can use it and have a vision, use it
>sprites are shit
ditto
>AI art is shit AND taboo
ok youre right there, dont become an AI NPC bro, thats how you lose your soul to the shitting street
>literally no recourse
just
DO IT
>you cant hire first and then YOLO it from there, dont make that mistake
Escort Mission did that and it turned out okay
offer service? Surely theres something you're able to do in return for drawing that you can offer.
Stop replying to this guy. How have we not learned this lesson after multiple years of the same thing?
Seriously, guys, he's been here for years, he says the same thing every time. He shows up in /ic/ threads as well. There's literally nothing you can possibly say that will improve the situation in any way. The only winning move is not to play.
I was going to put in actual effort for a better response but this homosexual is just a genuine derailing c**t. Full on agree with
and would recommend just report for off topic and move on. have another piece to fill in the dead air.
Holy shit I fricking recognize you, you've made threads with this exact kind of bullshit before and on /ic/ too. Get the frick out of /hyw/ and Cinemaphile in general and take your BPDP medication you delirious moron.
Don't give this tumor any more (you)s.
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/138160380/
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/138180818/
As always. Just wanna b***h and complain instead of trying to get anywhere
Do not reply to guy.
He is literally schizophrenic after an unfortunately failed suicide attempt.
Arguing against him and calling him out for posting nothin except AI slop with photoshop filters is a waste of time.
Report his posts, then move on.
Thanks for the next screencap, don't worry I can include both. Already messaged 2 batches of industry people.
>photoshop filters
Nope it comes straight from AI with no modification. You just show that you can't believe that AI generation is real.
And trying to lie and claim my drawings aren't drawn is just pathetic, if that's the way the anti-ai and AI conflict goes down you're going down in history as a bunch of pathetic whiny babies. Hopefully AI figures out how to shut your mouths so innovative project leads like myself can advance the medium with AI in peace
so how many comics about, or involving, clowns, do we actually have on /hyw/? because so far this makes 2
>after an unfortunately failed suicide attempt
is he actually? i heard about the brain damage, youre serious are you?
mental
also kek yeah hes a genuine schizoid is he? as in, classic style... if i didnt know who guy is i might've fallen for the newbie meme of 'everyones a schizo, schizo this, schizo that' and ignore the warnings, but yeah, this one actually is a proper loony fruity tooty
Schizo is a slag term used to degrade anyone and everyone who doesn't agree with the poster. (aka nobody can agree on what a schizo is).
Surreal artists get lumped into this category unfairly imo.
Attention prostitute is the proper term for "don't feed the egomaniac who contributes nothing."
yeah thats pretty much what "schizo" means nowadays
it used to mean "complete lunatic, absolute an utter crazyman speaking full blown incomprehensible nonsense", but now it basically means "im from reddit and your post upsets me"
Depends on the person and their state of mind. If the user is high on weed and speaking about angels and demons then they're out of touch with baseline reality.
Unfortunately schizo is used as a basic slur by every idiot. It's very annoying when cool surreal artists get degraded for being different from mainstream.
Yeah guy is actually unwell. No meme here just a man that needs help but won't get it. It's extremely sad when you think about it
It doesn't have any.
https://tapas.io/episode/2962075
>That's something that Christians and believers in the Paranormal get called
see, for once i agree with Guy
the word very much gets thrown around to mean 'anyone who dares think of imagine things outside of the approved norm'
but my man, surely you understand its your obsession with everything everyone ever said about you and the insistence on never, ever letting go, thats unpleasant and dubs you as a bit of a loony, right?
>the word very much gets thrown around to mean 'anyone who dares think of imagine things outside of the approved norm'
The dude literally thinks that the animation industry plagiarized him because he simps for John K all day. He thinks that AI generators are tailor-made to connect him and specifically him to some kind of superconsciousness. He's obsessed with Andrew Hussie and Homestuck because he thinks it plagiarized him in particular. He thinks autism is a conspiracy from the medical industry to get him down. He loves to proclaim that he's a person of God but you wouldn't know that from hearing his prideful boasts all day. His "comic" is just a text dump of crap he pulls from chatbots while accompanying it by those schizo photoshop-filter messes.
The dude is a schizo.
I don't mean that in the same sense as a troony calling someone a "schizo" for noticing some "progressive" message in a show, I mean he's a straight-up 100% unironic schizo.
He's not making surrealist work, he's reposting procedurally generated botwork and teasing a nonexistent meaning that isn't there.
For the record
is closer to surrealism.
now ask me how i know you didnt finish reading my whole post where i criticized Guy, and simply got mad angry butthurt because you attached to the first sentence
You validated the homosexual as not being schizo while trying to reason with him. Don't do either because all he does it take the validation.
now ask me how i know you didnt read my post even after i just said you didnt read it the first time
either that or
you really, really struggle with reading comprehension
Ask me how you didn't read mine you turbohomosexual.
If I don't care about my social interactions scientifically, then it snowballs into people spreading around complex lies like this person tries to do
My best friend worked on Homestuck. You can use all the words you want and spend your time trying to make up lies about my content, if you can't acknowledge such basic facts you're just spewing hot air
And have you ACTUALLY read my webcomic? I don't think so, hilarious
Oh it's a 0/10 troll replying to itself. Haven't seen one of those in years. Anyways I'm back to working on comics and streaming.
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>draw one of the antagonists
done and done before
Might draw some of the monsters of the week they fight as well later on but this is the main antagonist, a teenage girl oooooo how scary
>draw antagonists
Nitani is showing up next chapter. She is one of the Four Riders Asha wants to kill and her most direct rival.
lady macbeth kinda antagonist?
I guess. More a play on the school mean girl but what if she had a actual reason to frick with people. Playing fricking 8d chess with people
>Draw one of your comic's antagonists.
I cannot show him... yet.
Today is her birthday, say something good about her.
Posting this since I won’t be showing much until I start publishing October 1.
>tldr plot is an occult club uses seances to beat up manifestation of negative emotions in the spirit world
>got 2 chapters ready to go
>focusing on more 2-3 page chapters to illustrate jokes or character dynamics
>as well as sketches of all their spirit forms
I’ve also got this poll to see who’s most popular. The top 2 will be the official romantic relationship. Because I think that chaos factor is fun
I went full on with the saiyan reference. His name is another way of saying potayto-potahto
Anyone got good printing guides for newbies? I can't seem to wrap my head around bleeds and paper sizes, and how to get it to print right. I'm mostly trying to resize a comic I made on the side so I can print it for fun.
Start by specifying what you mean "printing for fun."
Most printers will just use a standard A4 (because why deviate if the price increase offers nothing else to a printer) and manga, iirc, is around 5"x7".
If you're working digital, then that and DPI might be an issue, but it really doesn't sound that way.
It is in fact digital, and by printing for fun I mean that I only want to print it out for my own personal enjoyment. I guess to cut to the source of the issue is how exactly do I understand pic-related? It's hard for me to visualize how the page will turn out on paper since I don't exactly understand these lines.
I resized my digital comic to A4, which ends up filling the whole thing past the 'safe zone', and I imagine that's not exactly the correct way to do it. I'm kind of clueless about printing in general.
I don't know how to answer that because I just leave my printer settings to be able to print to a standard trading card game size with 1 inch margins at a 600 dpi initial scaling.
I'm half joking there. DPI will determine the fidelity of your printer versus amount of pixels, but so-long as you adjust the sizing to emulate the width/height of an A4 sheet, you can get away with mlst sheets of printer paper as long as you fit it appropriately.
Thank you so much, this helps alot! I'll write this down for any future comics I make. Looks like I'll have to increase the safe-zone for my comic based on this information, among a plethora of other things.
Is quite useful, even if you're not going to print your pages. It helps you to understand how big the lettering can be, the sfx and the frames.
>I resized my digital comic to A4, which ends up filling the whole thing past the 'safe zone', and I imagine that's not exactly the correct way to do it. I'm kind of clueless about printing in general.
The safe area is were the whole comic should be, specially lettering, SFX, etc. It helps you how to size your comic and work under that size.
The trim area is, in case you'll print it, the part where is "trimmed" (duh). If you'll sell books, the printer will use the trim area to cut and then paste the pages, so any detail far of the safe area is going to be cut.
And the bleed area is the whole page of your page.
If you need a better page, here's one I use - https://www.mediafire.com/file/wn6v5udp41czkb0/doujinshi_size_ruled_paper_600dpi_by_syo_senpai-d7f2nn1.rar/file
Home stretch boys, 4 pages to go!
https://poppyandzipper.thecomicseries.com/comics/38
Not my best drawing but I tried some new stuff with this one
The dynamic lighting against the characters being flat looks awkward, but the attention to coloration/bloom is really cool.
Yeah like I said. Not my best but I tried different stuff out
good job
I have a few new pages. Not much but something
And that’s everything I have so far for this chapter.
how do you feel about Betz doxxing you
Nta but how do you know it was Betz? Why would Betz do that?
Talk about the comic not about unrelated drama
>SEX with drama
Renata sold out
>Renata shows up to add class to the thread and then leaves.
Y'know, the AI shills are annoying, but they're a hell of a lot better than """artists""". At least they try to be helpful and don't just vomit out useless platitudes.
If you're really over thirty, then there's no excuse for you to whine this much.
Well excuse me for being frustrated that everyone here actively refuses to answer a very simple question.
I did answer.
Don't want to try? Then you're NGMI.
Simple-as. Do not argue.
Last response you're getting from me altogether.
I literally CAN'T just try. Why do you refuse to acknowledge that?
i have a question. is it better to link a comic you just finished, or to post it page by page here if its a one-shot?
Personal preference. Pages let people see the art and get interested. Links often get ignored
I would suggest that you just post the link, but make sure to post it alongside some page. Many anons overlook posts without pictures.
I keep my pages on Tapas/Webtoons on a small delay versus what I paste here.
It gives the people whom don't want to click off something and gives me a window for Cinemaphile-brand feedback for when I post Tapas/Webtoons chapters.
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You’re in luck, then, because 99% of those that do give up within the first year. You’ e given up before starting, which puts you way ahead of the curve.
I suggest ritual magic, sleep deprivation and anal sex with strangers.
>he assumed I was Betz
I'm not that homosexual and I sure as hell would complain about you too
>were people are supposed to post art
post your art then. bonus challenge: post art not seen before
How do you guys pace your fight scenes? I'm trying to keep a consistent, yet quick tempo in the fight, and I wanted to hear a second or third opinion.
I'm writing a fight where one character VASTLY outclasses the other in terms of raw strength, however the second person uses their environment and wits to fight back and gain ground in the fight. The fight itself is set in an abandoned school, so I was thinking of every 3 pages or so, switching up the location. Busting into other rooms, using different items in said room and seeing if the idea the hero comes up with works or not. I know it's all in the execution, but does that at least sound like a good idea, or is there a flaw I'm overlooking?
damn that first message from Betz nailed it on the head.
WHAT LOVELY COMMENTS DID FRED LEAVE ON BETZ COMIC
none of what he said was wrong and you coming here shows how butthurt you are.
Neo kaw users are annoying and struggling addicts. Nazi communties breed the dumbest attention prostitutes.
Fred and Betz?
ok so i havent uploaded this anywhere yet, so i suppose ill upload here. its about 20 pages, ill upload them a few at a time as not to spam
last one for now. its about halfway uploaded. 7/20 pages.
Really cute. I like the artstyle a lot.
Are you posting it somewhere else?
Thank you! im still trying to figure out were else to post it, but I'll upload the rest here now at least 🙂
almost done. page 14 out of 20
18/20
20/20, last page here.
id genuinely love reviews of this comic. ConCrit is good too, but id love to hear all about things like
>How did this comic make you feel?
>what do you think the themes of this work are?
>what do you think happened to the monster?
>did the monster represent anything in your eyes?
Anyway, to anyone who read my comic, thank you very much. Cheers to your own comic making processes too. And thank you once again to the anon who helped me be able to look at this work again.
So, is the monster supposed to be an allegory for puberty or aging? It seems like you’re going for a “she didn’t accept herself as she aged and locked herself away and now that special part of her is gone forever” style plot, and it’s not badly thought out.
But I do believe you need to give more for Tulip and Vivian to do.
The base concept of these two hunting down fantasies as pseudo detectives where they see things that don’t exist because the emotions of fragile people manifest as creatures could make for a very compelling comic series. But you need to flesh it out more.
Maybe this girl’s creature was so heavily neglected that it died before it could be reunited with her this causing her eternal emptiness. Whereas with other people Tulip is able to hunt down the fantasy and rescue the person in time.
There needs to be an established importance between the people and their fantasies, both in what the fantasy represents, and how losing it can destroy their mentality.
But all of that said, you’re on to something really great here, you just need to develop it more.
Your art style is also very cute.
The font needs to be cleaned though
thank you so much for the detailed feedback!
>But I do believe you need to give more for Tulip and Vivian to do.
I really agree with that. I was originally thinking of this comic to be part of a larger anthology featuring different mysteries and stories that the "Fantasy Chasers" come into contact with. It's probably not best for this to be the introduction of Tulip and Vivian. So in any further stories, I'll really think about how I can make them less passive.
>is the monster supposed to be an allegory for puberty or aging?
thats pretty close. I think its kind of one of those stories that can have a lot of different interpretations, so I really wanted to see how it felt to others, thematically. I also like the approach you're taking with the monsters being metaphors - thats definitely the case in this story. I think in the future I'd like to explore the themes of "attachments" using these fantasy ideas.
>Your art style is also very cute.
thank you, i was super worried it would be too simple, but it really helped me make it easier. I might stick with it.
>The font needs to be cleaned though
shoot, i was thinking a handwritten gothic font would be cool and fit the stylized line aesthetic, but maybe it's too much and needs to be replaced with type. Or is it just the placements of the lettering? I'll take a look at it again.
thanks again anon x2 for the review, ill treasure the honest feedback
You’re welcome, glad you liked my feedback
The font was cool and added to the theme. You are correct about that, if it was also somewhat difficult to read. That could just be a me issue though.
Still, I’m looking forward to seeing more output from you,
Dear HYC,
Please draw more backgrounds and establishing shots. Very few of the works in here convey a sense of place. Most of these comics look like they take place in a vacuum.
>Please draw more backgrounds and establishing shots
no
don't like it, don't read it
entitled b***h 🙂
You’re in luck. I already don’t read your comic.
Happy first day of Autumn, the perfect time to read Oi! Tales of Bardic Fury
https://tapas.io/series/Oi
https://www.webtoons.com/en/canvas/oi-tales-of-bardic-fury/list?title_no=303092
https://medibang.com/mpc/titles/nv2306180607526800024117550/
That's it , I've done enough research. I'm going to make a comic now.
This is good stuff, love the pacing, love it when a comedy comic knows what panel to expand and linger on. Love the look on the dog's face. Chef's kiss, a masterpiece.
For what it’s worth, the average human lives to about 85. If you’re 30 today you’re still young you just left childhood.
If you go by the saturn return theory, you enter a new life stage after 29 years.
0-29 is childhood
29-58 is adulthood
58-87 is elderhood
Your third saturn return is when you are at your wisest and are gearing Ho for death.
At 30 you’ve just barely become an adult. It’s natural to feel fear and anxiety during this change because it’s a major thing to enter your next stage of life, but you’ve also 30 more years to explore your adulthood and figure yourself out using all the skills and experiences of childhood.
So you never learned to draw as a kid. You’re now a fully developed adult with a brains capable of comprehending concepts you could before. It should theoretically be easier to learn to draw now, and you will progress faster than you would have as a kid if you fully utilize your current capacity.
And let’s say you’re at your second return and you’re now 58. You’ve learned so much and gained so much that now you’ll be able to really grasp these concepts better than ever before with a newfound appreciation for taking things at your own pace.
Age isn’t a handicap, and it shouldn’t be something to fear. It’s never too late to start following your passions, and you’re never too old to learn new skills.
... That is a massive load of delusional prostituteshit. Wow. If I actually tried to "JUST DO IT" like you idiots insist, would look like shit. I don't want to make amateur hour garbage like
, I'd actually like to, y'know, make some damn money. And that requires professional, experienced artwork, which I have neither the skill for, nor access to. Y'know, if you don't actually KNOW any alternatives, you can just say that instead of spewing a bunch of inane hippie shit at me.
Sounds to me like you just want to be lazy and succeed in life with zero effort, which is odd because creative fields take more effort than the average minimum wage job.
I suggest you look elsewhere
>creative fields take more effort than the average minimum wage job.
You say, knowing full well that society at large does not consider any creative endeavor to be a valid contribution to civilization. It's bad enough you're tossing after school special platitudes at me, you don't need to be disingenuous on top of it.
>If I actually tried to "JUST DO IT" like you idiots insist, would look like shit.
yes you moron
its supposed to
youre a beginner thats normal
i genuinely dont understand what you want, an assignment? alright, pick up a pen, go outside and draw anything
anything at all
a tree, a dog, a person, a car... i dont care what, just copy what you see
then do it again
>youre a beginner thats normal
And literally no one on Earth gives a flying rat's ass. Audiences won't tolerate amateur artwork. Ever.
>i genuinely dont understand what you want,
I want to know how to make a comic without needing to be able to draw. I'd also like you to discover your damn shift key. What the actual frick is that mess.
oh ok i see
you dont want to make art, you wanna say "look look mommy i did it" and get famous for it
well no wonder youve never learned
wasnt popular enough for ya till it got cool huh?
hobby tourist
then you shant learn
and thatll be that
lol lmao
>That is a massive load of delusional prostituteshit.
The Sistine Chapel, if you know anything about its creation you'll understand what I mean.
You? You've decided to be a no one.
I mean, that's fine.
Someones like me need nobodies like you to stand on top of so the rest of the world can see us better, my little paypiggy.
>would look like shit
Yes, and? Your point being?
>professional, experienced artwork
Everyone starts somewhere, dude. Very few people who make art start off with sale worthy stuff until a few years or so into it. If you think this is a get rich quick sort of career, I don't know what to tell you.
Stop trying to reason with this idiot. Everything that could be said too him has been said.
>inb4 he replies "so there's really no alternatives?"
Yes. There are none.
You're never going to be 100% pleased with what you draw (some exceptions). That is the case with everyone, but those of us who draw do it because we find genuine enjoyment in the process of creating (most of the time). It sounds like you are one of those people who thinks there's this "level" of being an artist where you're just perfect. You are othering artists, putting them on a pedestal and assuming that we have some magical thing from birth that you don't. As long as you believe that you can't learn something, it's going to be miserable because of that depressing association. It's a cycle that you're clearly caught in.
It sounds like you want success and money, not to be an artist. If you enjoyed drawing you would have been drawing already. Not everyone enjoys drawing all the time, of course, so it sounds like you have to get over this negative association first.
>"without needing to be able to draw"
The truth is that you can already draw, literally. You just believe it doesn't "count" because "it's not good enough." What you don't realise is that when you make something yourself, you'll always be aware of what you feel you're lacking. So you may see someone else's piece of art as "perfect" but the artist knows where they messed up because they're the one who went through the process of creating it. Like I said earlier in this reply, that's how literally everyone feels and you don't really cure that. It's part of the ride.
two new pages since the last thread.
1/2
read more here: https://ubossdailies.thecomicseries.com/
the comic is almost complete only 17 pages after these 2 pages im posting and im making a new one right now and once thats done 16 pages until the page 150 climax/end to it all
2/2
it was supposed to end at page 100 but then everyone wanted an encore so i decided to half ass commit to 50 more pages, so once the encores done, its done for real this time lol
brand new page, fresh out the oven, hope yall like it lol
*fixed a weird typo in the second word balloon: https://ubossdailies.thecomicseries.com/comics/137/
it was all originally in one word balloon but i broke it up into 3 parts for dramatic effect or something like that lol
found another typo, its fixed in the link
"dont you big tiddie morons get it?"
forgot to add the "you"
i uh, made this page to fast lol, 16 more pages and its done, the story of uboss dailies is complete, im ready to move on to my next big comic project tbh. one where i dont draw it bad on purpose for the humor and the lolz lol
scanned some original uboss dailies chicken scratch
1/3
enjoy some traditional copper sketches in all its quick sloppy careless glory lol
2/3 Tap and Skag
Tap straight up choking a b***h on the left side lol
3/3 just skag being skag lol
ahem, i also doodled out a quick lazy harley quinn but thats kind of off topic, but here it is anyway lol
even the afterlife needs its blue collar workers at a canning factory
I actually really like that shirt
Thanks it's littraly the first thing I came up with. Might keep it as the design now
>wow HYC is still up, maybe something interesting is…
>dozens of replies to I can’t learn to draw guy.
thank you anon, same to you
imagine you were, say, a potter your whole life
its not popular work in the 2020s, most people who arent into pottery themselves dont think its "kewl", sure they consume your craft but they think its kinda lame
but youre ok with that, because whatever, you love your work and your fellow pottery fans dig it too
then suddenly a buncha zoomer girls on tiktok start a trend called "potterycore" or some shit, they watched a movie or anime about pottery and now they think its sooo cute and quirky and frugal and totes, like, doesnt make me feel like the high class rich california gurl i am beckeeey, i feel sooo down to earth now!
before you know it, gaggles of septum piercing and disney tattoo having 18 year olds with dyed hair swarm into your pottery shop asking you to teach them pottery
at first youre excited "wow, so many people wanna learn this craft? how neat!"
but then they start whining
>eeeew i have to touch CLAY?
>ugh no way im not using the pottery wheel, thats so not bussin
>what do you mean i have to WORK and LEARN to make something? just teach me how to make a pot NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW!
this is what it feels like being a cartoonist in the era where making comics/cartoons suddenly became cool and trendy and we have to deal with morons like this guy
How it feels to be a table top RPG player in 2023. I fricking hyw the hipster tourists who are “totes D&D experts” because they played 5e for the first time 3 years ago”
yup, thats the normiefication of niche hobbies for ya
i believe thats part of the reason for the absolute shit state of the cartoon industry rn, most of the artists only became interested after it became mainstream to do art, whereas 20 years ago they wouldve been the kinda people shoving you into lockers
Y'know, this little victim complex you got going on really isn't helping your case.
says the loser who cant draw
This is why nobody likes artists.
>Skill is the gate.
And I guess if you're literally unable to acquire that skill, you're just fricked, huh?
>And I guess if you're literally unable to acquire that skill, you're just fricked, huh?
>This is why nobody likes artists.
nobody likes you either and you can’t even draw. You’re being spit roasted by your own inadequacy.
> And I guess if you're literally unable to acquire that skill, you're just fricked, huh?
Now you’re getting it.
Laugh at the gimp everyone.
So you literally ARE just gatekeeping. Truly shocking.
Well, if you're not going to provide any valuable tools that will help some who lacks the ability to draw with a means of expressing themselves, it's little wonder why so many latched on to a clearer solution with a community that's actually welcoming.
Jeasus fricking christ stop responding to the moron and report them for off topic. Nothing they say is good faith and nothing will pierce through there thick skull because 'there is no earnest want to do art'.
i cant draw so i write 🙂
But is your writing any good? That’s a skill that’s just as difficult as drawing
oh, as to that, no. I work with good artists that carry me though.
And nobody reads your writing because it has no visuals.
>This isn’t some shitty contest. Just because someone has greater success does not mean someone else can’t enjoy their smaller success.
That's an oddly naive viewpoint.
How is it naive?
Because it displays a lack of knowledge about how the market works. EVERYTHING is a contest.
So if you aren’t the most popular it’s impossible to succeed? When has that ever been the case.
You can still be a massively successful webcomic and not be as big as Lore Olympus or Tower of God
>So if you aren’t the most popular it’s impossible to succeed?
Seriously, are you new here? Numbers are the only thing that matters, at least in the eyes of the public.
See? This is what I'm talking about. There's zero accessibility, and you get laughed at for daring to want to express yourself. Artists are scum.
good on ya lad, I have afew myself but not a particular place to put them. Thought about using AO3 since just leaving them on google docs feels alittle wasteful but only know AO3 to be abit janky when it comes to inner politics of the site. frick if I know.
What in the tarnation is going on in this thread?
clearly just AI lovin NPC being an AI lovin NPs as usual, trying to persuade an entire thread of comic loves and comic artists that art bad because he cant into it
>uses AI
>thinks real people drawing art is stupid
And this is the part where we point and laugh at him.
Anyone else just randomly ship two characters together and wooops its suddenly cannon as your the creator and frick eveyone else? Just me? Ok
it happens but i try and keep it out of the story
ive drawn my MC fricking a girl who wont even appear for the next few chapters but its never ever gonna be canon
I have characters that I personally like together, but I don't write it directly into the story unless their relationship is part of the story.
Unless you're working on a romance story, shipping plots will often bog your story down needlessly unless you don't focus on it too much (which people don't like to do) or it's a different character that's not a part of the main cast, i,e a a coffee shop employee a character has a crush on.
Just let the fans ship stuff themselves. They'll probably do a better job anyways
Frick you are right. I had a horrible flashback to star vs from you mentioning that. Just can't add this in ... it's cannon as again frick everyone they are my ocs but I guess I'll save it for horni content to draw
You can have the relationship in your story, just make sure you are very, VERY careful how you write it.
The main problem star versus had was the fact that they wanted to have this will they, won't they? bullshit while obviously wanting starco from the beginning. If they just committed, I guarantee you, the problems would be less severe, if not gone entirely. You gotta commit or make the relationship drama complementary to the main story drama
I agree, romance can be a very useful tool in development of characters. I just worry whenever I see it, because writers lose all self-control and turn this sideplot into the main plot and then they act like I NEED to give a shit about this because that's what I came here for right?
It's not Cinemaphile but Saotome Senshu, Hitakakusu is a good example of a romance that also develops characters and gives the characters hopes, dreams, and goals outside of the romance itself while keeping the romance elements fun. I know there's probably a Cinemaphile example but that was the fire one that came to my head
This is exactly why I think romance should be avoided as much as possible unless it’s vital to the story.
I think romance can be extremely compelling when its more of a sideplot. Even when I read a "romance" series, for me it works when there is another goal in the series and the romance helps develop the characters dealing in that goal. But it might just be that I don't enjoy romance all that much. It doesn't help to me that purely-romance focused series tend to feel in my opinion repetitive, "insists upon itself" kind of thing, or rely on forced drama and stupid character choices to keep the reader interest.
when recounting events with my old DnD group with my own character and another's we did a mutual 'get together' between hers and mine. After a falling out after writing everything down I just simply changed things to 'they split mutually for other endeavors.' Not like she would ever read it but I like to leave irl drama out of what was already established within these stories and make it make sense atleast.
Still working on the next batch of pages for Chapter 2, stuff is going strong. As things go, we're probably done with this chapter in early October.
https://thestarryladders.thecomicseries.com/
https://tapas.io/series/The-Starry-Ladders/info
I beat Tears of the Kingdom last night. What should I play next?
CastleVania III: Dracula's Curse
Ironically I hear it yesterday afternoon. I’m doing Armored Core 6 next
*Beat
Autocorrect
Yakuza 5
That’s the worst game in the entire series though.
If you must play it, install a mod to reduce the enemy encounter rate. It’s extremely overkill in 5, you can’t walk down a single street without having to fight and Yakuza combat gets boring really quickly
I had no idea what you were talking about until I realized I said 5 and not 4. I meant 4
Lol yeah, major difference. 4’s encounter rate is much smaller and each of the 4 protagonists have different enough gameplay to keep it interesting. Though the final boss rush is a bit annoying, i overall enjoyed the plot
Taiga getting rapey on Haruka was extremely uncomfortable though
That version of haruka was perfect jailbait, I would have tapped it too
anyone know any courses or whatever on how to improve writing? Mostly on character dialogue and how to actually layout a plot
The more good fiction you read, the better writer you'll become.
this can help for sure. Writing is a creative process though. It's a bit different than consuming it.
only so much I can read while not really understanding whats going on under it all.
If you can't understand things on your own, what would you have to say as a writer that's worth saying anyways?
Read stuff about that specific genre/type you wanna delve improve on, practice writing such stories and receive feedback from fellow writers on it. Keep writing and practicing is a good exercise for you. Write short stories, adapt them to comics and let people give you feedback.
Like "just draw", "just write" works like that.
I do write my comic currently so I'm not like "waaaa I don't know how to write waaaaa" here more just asking for tips of there's a theory behind it like art. I can just draw all-day but I've gotten to the point in my art were I really need to focus on studying and such. I feel like I need to do the same for my writing
NTA but the Scott McCloud books (Understanding Comics and Making Comics) were a huge help for me back when I first read them. You get a feel for how everything should work together and flow more naturally.
>Dakota's Ghoulfriend Short #13 WIP
The Rabbit is on his way.
Funny.
For brainstorming?
>watch media I have even a tiniest interest in
>even if I see the title of the show while looking up roles voice actors have played
>see if I like the series and out loud describe what I liked or the opposite if I didn't like it.
>relate my thoughts and feelings to my own work to see if I'm doing something like that and need to change or tweak it.
>listen to music, specifically soundtracks to shows and games
>listen over and over, fantasizing about a story I could come up with based on this song and if that story fits any part of my character
>even see if there's a new element of my character I never thought about that would fit them or add depth.
For actually creating stuff?
>write down systems, settings, themes, and characters I want to implement into my story
>write a basic plot outline for it
>determine if I have to get rid of or add anything
>write a detailed script for each chapter
>draw tiny thumbnail drafts of the chapter's pages
>since my comics have box paneling, draw boxes and panels
>make initial sketch
>inital sketch good? then ink it
>scan inked pages
>add halftones and dialouge in photoshop
>pray to god that no one zooms into my artwork and realize it looks like shit
>get scared of people thinking it looks bad
>never post it
>make new idea discarding all the work done on the old one and repeat
Overall? Hyper autistic shit.
What is your guys creative process?
Thanks to autism my autism my brain littraly never stops. Always thinking about little character interactions and plotlines. The hard part is cutting all that shit down and putting what's in my head on page.
So uhhhh not very helpful here
>Write down/doodle every idea in a notebook, whether it just be a piece of imagery or a whole ass story concept
>Watch lots of movies, read lots of comics, actual literature too.
>Things end up inspiring me maybe a lil too much and I drastically start modifying the ideas I'm confident on to make them more abstract/confusing.
>Make a mess.
In a fun way
I bathe in the blood of innocents, emerge screaming and then get a start on my day.
when i start making a comic, i have to be up really late and thumbnail a whole chapter in one sitting, or else I second guess myself and dont get anywhere. Then I have to commit to those thumbs after blowing them up on my tablet and start on my clean draft, without changes. I'm the type that thinks a lot before the process, not during. People say your first idea is never the best one but its what i have to do to get anything done.
Kaczynski-esque stacks of notebooks
I think I start with a seed, I let it grow with some auxillary ideas in my head and then watch as it sprouts branches and characters of its own. I put it all into a notebook and just work from that. I also have the ending somewhat planned, it's vague but it's there.
Right now, meanwhile, I've got a little strategy to keep grinding little on little whilst I do my chemical engineering. I open up Word in one half of my monitor for the script and ms paint in the other for boarding. if I don't know what to board, I write. if I don't know what to write, I board. It's been quite effective for me, very loose.
my biggest mistake was focusing so much on animation. when I return to comics I want the pages to look like this but with a mixture of styles.
Cover me in gravy and stuff me, cus I'm on a roll! Finished another issue of my anthology comic! Link to it :3
BTW has anyone here done an event comic or at least something close to it?
Forgot link
https://tapas.io/episode/2957576
Was working on pen technique and character design and drew a Sam Elliot-like.
I'm writing a story where the MC is a tween girl and I just realized I have no idea what a girl her age would be interested in, any tips on how to approach this?
Well what kinda girl is she? If shes a normal girl she would be into current boyband (bts, onedirection, n sync) depending on the time period.
Romance as well, tween girls eat it up and are the reason webcomics are dominated by romance.
Its hard to give you more as what you have given is so vague and even as a femoid I cant give you much as I was a outcast and most femanons were as well
I did enjoy [HORSE SHOW] but started hating it as it tried to appeal to adult men more lmao
>Adult
Adult recalling her past on being a young girl yes
>what you have given is so vague
Wells she's a bit shy, quiet, have quite low self esteem really. She doesn't really hang out with anyone. Used to do cheerleading when she was younger, but dropped it and mostly play games at home.
I honestly can't blame you for struggling to think of anything. Even music is hard, you mention a couple bands, yet I also heard of teens listening to their parents music, or what ever they find. Thanks for the tips.
Oh shes a epic gamer then?
When I was that age I was going from barbie horse adventures to shit like zelda but still had a soft spot for those girly games (still do)
drafting underway
where would one go to test a script or a WIP to an audience? aside from here i mean
Moreover, is there a market for graphic novels? I avoid comics and would prefer to read text, however I understand that blocks of text may not be very appealing
There probably is. There has to be some adults who want picture books
When you say picture books you didn’t mean actual picture books yeah? I’m talking full on books with illustrations here
I only ask because it seems as though the expected idea would be a full on comic for readability, I’ve seen little discussion for anything more chunky than that
Horror is it? I know I’d enjoy that, gotta blog?
I’m on tumblr, cooltrash95
I posted some art of the main character
No not actual picture books for children, I mean like occasional illustations wouldn't hurt. It'd probably be more for the novel market than the comic market though. Although now that I think about it, there probably are adults who want picture books
god i wish there WAS picture books for adults. >"how to write a check with big bird"
>"princess cinderella in: how to create cleaning chemicals safely"
When I was 18 I had to write a check for the first time in my life and google brought me to WikiHow, which is illustrated. Would WikiHow be improved with cartoon characters? Probably, but maybe not in the ways we'd expect.
I learned how to write a check in middle school. It was just part of our standard classes
is there any ways to get back at drawing effectively?
What do you mean by "effectively?"
Finally got a working rhythm going, enough to confidently update weekly. Hoping to up that to twice a week, my day job and energy levels allowing. I hope people have some fun with it.
https://www.theduckwebcomics.com/History/
HYW bros, how do I cope with never realizing my dream of being a brain surgeon? I'm exactly 29 years and 355 days old, so it's too late to go to med school. Malpractice lawyers demand perfection, so if you don't start doing surgery as a small child you'll never be good enough. Are there any alternatives I can use to surge a brain for the big bucks without having to uhhhh know things? I wanted to try ice picks but the anti-lobotomy gays on twitter would cancel me.
Loomis
This is why everyone hates surgeons.
I love you guys, forreal
have you tried doing brain surgery entirely with AI? You don't have to know anything about surgery that way!
Did you pet the dog?
Anyone else have too many ideas and not enough time? I swear I try to do only one project at a time but I’m always in development of like 7 more ideas. Maddening problem.
There are 5 ideas I’m currently developing, none of which are the series I’m actively putting out right now.
Thus is the nature of a creative
I have this horror story Im currently developing. My regular comic is a drama but I wanted to expand/adapt a horror story from my hometown about Bunnyman Bridge.
My current one is a action comedy, but I have a fantasy adventure idea, a detective concept, and a psychological mystery series currently in various stages of development. Nothing ready to be shown to anyone, but ideas in toying with
That’s cool, what is the psychological mystery series about roughly?
My horror series is sort of a southern gothic about Northern Virginia and in particular where Bunnyman Bridge is. Loosely based on some of my own personal experience growing up there.
Still extremely rough so it might not sound interesting or make sense, but the general concept is someone who had mental issues but has been discharged from the psych ward so long as they take pills.
They’re sent to a boarding house or some kind that’s managed by a brainwashing cult and the protagonist is dealing with escaping this commune while not being quite sure what is reality, what is the cult’s influence, and what is their own hallucinations creeping back on them. While there they encounter the only sane person who has also been trying to find a means to escape but can’t because they need help from someone who isn’t already broken. Our protagonists hides their mental problems from this person, which in turn risks compromising all of their plans while the mystery of who can and cannot be trusted and what the end goals of everyone is.
It’s not intended to be an extremely long story, maybe 300 pages maximum, but it would require a lot of planning and careful consideration for the entire mystery to play out correctly and not be extreme cringe
Forgot to add:
The leader of the cult is withholding their pills unless they perform tasks favorably, a sort of blackmail to keep loyalty. So if the protagonist doesn’t do what they’re told, they lose the pills and this more sanity. But a big element will be is the cult really all that bad? Is the ally actually an ally? Stuff like that
I'm already focused only in FdA.
it's ogre
Did two more webcomic pages https://mspfa.com/?s=49461&p=62
My characters's. Because I try to draw girls I would want to suck the farts out of.
is it okay to post my old comics
How's your webcomic?
A new start of the new week, a new page of a Starry Ladders chapter finally being freed from its cage!
https://thestarryladders.thecomicseries.com/comics/40
im taking the trip off and making the name bones public domain, ruin the name, run it into the ground, im never using it again after this.
i dont want to be bones anymore.
i dont want to post in hyw anymore.
i deleted my discord account and im about to delete my twitter account because to many hyw people follow me and i follow them back.
im to old for this shit, i just want to draw.
i just want to draw.
ive been drawing since i woke up and i hope i fall asleep drawing.
i dont want to talk to anybody or be in any of your weird social groups.
goodbye.
what about your rat feet porn comic? will you keep drawing it?
While i disagree that its foot fetish porn, of course he will finish his comic, all evidence that he was ever bones will be deleted from the internet but his comic and art will continue.
deleting your twitter account is a complicated process and im sure he is trying to figure out how to delete it as we speak, once thats gone there will be no evidence that bones ever existed, once deleted from the internet that artist can finally move on and do serious professional art related stuff.
i highly doubt he will ever post in Cinemaphile again after today or this thread ends.
Bones will be saved on 4ch archive sites and in his discord posts forever.
does it matter? if he pulls this off and gets away from the bones name forever how will you connect bones, the Cinemaphile poster, with the real person that was behind the bones character?
also i dont think bones was ever that impactful of a troll, lolcow, or artist for anyone to remember or care about a year from now long after hes completely dethatched from this pace, hyw in general.
>hey arent you bones?
who?
>look at these old bones discord dm's and Cinemaphile posts from years ago
who? what? no one cares.
its over anon. he wins and gets away scott free after decades of shitposting on Cinemaphile.
>its over anon. he wins and gets away scott free after decades of shitposting on Cinemaphile.
This is such a transparently Bones post. Good luck out there Bones, work on your line weight and stop rushing through your art just for the sake of getting it done, you could be halfway decent if you just took some time with your art.
>Good luck out there Bones
dont act like you care or your a good person, ardi, dont any of you mother frickers act like your good people or care, bones made it clear he was anti social but was trying so god damn hard against his own nature to talk to people the best he possibly could without being weird, but all you people did was spit in his face, talk down to him, and make fun of him not only behind his back, but to his face as well. atleast you /hyw/ people are consistent i guess.
but ive seen behind your fake masks and the awful terrible people underneath. proof? your all just here to shill your bullshit webcomics. none of you are actually friends with each other. your just using each other, like leeches or parasites.
it doesnt matter, bones is a lone wolf. always has been, always will be, doesn't need friends. doesnt need to talk to anyone. works best alone.
Why does Ardi hate bones?
It doesn't matter anon, bones is dead, for all intentions and purposes. Forget the guy ever existed. Its for the best. If you have any old bones posts saved or screen caps you should delete those to because no one cares.
I am Ardi and
its not me. I don't care about any of this.
I don't either.
Lots of people are actually friends here. You can promote a webcomic and also support your friends and think their stuff is legit good.
I’m chill with basically everyone, just act like people are people and try to be understanding.
>using Cinemaphile for advertisement
Anyone doing this is fricking moronic.
Tbf, if your target audience is autists, this is the place to go, kek.
Hi Bones
Hi Betz
>i highly doubt he will ever post in Cinemaphile again after today or this thread ends.
Hey, I've seen this one before!
>ive been drawing since i woke up and i hope i fall asleep drawing.
based, this is the lifestyle we all aspire to
Good. frick off. Here’s your (you).
>bones says he's going away from /hyw/ forever
>Again
This, he didn't even stay away for a year the last time he claimed this. Given that he seems to have deleted some of his accounts elsewhere, though, I think it may be about a year and a half this time.
He couldn't even reach a day.
he actually did it, bones deleted his twitter account, holy shit!
RIP!
its coming..(soon)
!!!!!SOOON!!!!!
thank you!
Lovely lighting and palettes
bones clearly doesn't want to be associated with this place anymore, does anyone have the list of webcomics so we can remove his webcomic uboss dailies from the list, he is never coming back and theres no reason for it to be on there and confuse people who see it.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BHWvGGdywh188DAo5Y9YywzSz4uyrAEt6ba19NQ50W8/edit?usp=drivesdk
do what you got to do man.
its view only
:/
hopefully they do the right thing and remove it from the list.
Renata asked for the same thing and they did
>doesn't want to be associated with anyone here
>keeps posting regardless
There has to be a word for this...
All he said was he didn’t want to be on the list. He never said he didn’t want the association
The first implies the second though, no? Otherwise why choose to be on or off a list of /HYW/ comics?
Because he’s a weirdo who doesn’t collaborate. He also told Otto he wanted nothing to downright the power level chart
I don’t know what’s going on, but I don’t want to be associated with you people or be here, either.
Okay!
I'm back for bit, Now that I have free time.
https://www.webtoons.com/en/canvas/habiti/habiti-ch4-p18/viewer?title_no=334257&episode_no=77
https://tapas.io/episode/2960057
https://www.webtoons.com/en/canvas/habiti/habiti-ch4-p19/viewer?title_no=334257&episode_no=78
https://tapas.io/episode/2964800
And ill draw a antagonists for the thread.
And here is one of my antagonist for Habiti.
I was looking for this comic that I did in college for a class, I really want to do my horror comic in black and white.
Breezeburg
Inspired by Yotsuba. A slice of life about a dog girl who delivers mail on an island full of monster people. Lemmie know what you think :0
https://www.webtoons.com/en/canvas/breezeburg-/list?title_no=872764
let it die
is 20 too late to be trying to improve my art?
Nope, there isn't a "too late."
Any age is too late to improve. Talent isn't something you can level up. It's like how are able to breathe underwater for longer because they have bigger lungs. You're either born with it, or you're not.
Oh shush.
Why? Afraid of hard facts, are we?
I predicted you'd say that. You crabs in a bucket are so predictable.
holy cringe
The average human life expectancy is about 73 years, but in most developed countries it's closer to 80. So perhaps 81 years is rather late to improve your art, but the oldest verified human was 122 at death. So it's only too late to improve if you're 123.
Or if you have a nice day first.
I started when I was 21
I didn’t start until I was over 30.
And I guarantee your "art" looks like shit.
Whatever you say. I can take a hit.
Will Falco here find Star Fox?
I like your art but fricking hate your writing
Yeah, I hate it too. I’m rewriting the entire thing.
Thanks for your feedback.
To elaborate: I focused on the art to the exclusion of all else. I carefully considered all criticism, dismissing nothing. I just kind of floundered around on the writing. I listened, but I didn’t unpack what was being said. Beyond that, I had some stupid Ideas about how to put everything together which I had to get over. About a month ago, I started to rethink about the crit I’d received and started to take everything apart. In my own defense: I was PTSD out of my fricking mind during the bulk of the time I was putting all this together.
End blog.
Again, thanks for taking the time to respond. Harsh, unforgiving critique is the best kind.
Is this autism, or something more?
what did I miss
Bones announced he's coming out of retirement
missed you king, hope you've been doing well
tempted to draw another Cat dude satire comic due to these shenanigans.
The Return of the King
>i deleted all my social media because everyone was being awful to me
>your being awful to me to anon
>if you saw me dead on the street with my rat fricker webcomic you would walk right over me
>how about another joke /hyw/
>what do you get when the /hyw/ society abandons you and treats you like trash?
>YOU GET WHAT YOU FRICKEN DESERVE
>HYUK
Bones.
Either put the tripcode back on, or actually leave /hyw/.
Make a fricking decision.
Here's the new Puffer and Clarissa page.
Oh no, they’re planning 9/11 2
I'm working on a oneshot about the Aztecs vs the Spanish and Tlaxcalans. The guy on the cover is inspired by this owl guy.
Thread challenge. Not optimistic about getting another page out since I'm busy. Did three of these sketches at work. First guy had new art, but pen started to bleed through on the other side of the paper so it was ruined. Bios are rushed.
Hey, I know I should probably lurk more, but I’ve hit a bit of a midlife crisis so I figured I might as well ask.
What are your guy’s track record on team made comics?
I’m getting better at my art, and I have a lot of ideas, but I don’t have the same energy or motivation to keep things straight like I used to, and flagship a whole project on my own. So I figured I’d ask if there are any comic creators on here who want help working on their series, or other guys like me who might wanna band together to make something new.
My discord is #thebadoe, and my alias is 713 on the drawthreads in case anyone was interested in reaching out. If that counts as namegayging then, oh well mods can delete my post.
>name gayging
>leading to post deletion
Clearly, you are visiting from a better timeline.
Been at least a year since I was last here, so iunno
Escort Mission, Renata, and Tom n Artie are three well known comics that are wholly team made and they seem to be consistent enough
>Escort Mission was team made
wtf this is news to me
how to art well like minimums to gain epic sales
like, qualitry control
what's that in comic, or at least,
current market
enjoy the hitpiece: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQIUIpLk8z0&ab_channel=WiseOfRunes
dont worry ill delete it when the thread dies, because im done with this place after this thread and dont want to even reference it in a video or interview, etc.
Aside from the occasional “uhm…” you’re completely inaudible under the music.
i hope this video humbled you a little, if nothing else, your all so god damn high and mighty its sickening tbh
This is pretty sad, like all you have to do is just not be an butthole and everyone is chill with you
It’s the bare minimum
the bare minimum is not stabbing me in the back and pouring salt in the wounds as you mockingly laugh from your delusional high horse. ffs lol
what do i mean by this?
a "friend" sharing dm's with another "friend" while they both attack me from out of nowhere, the frick is that shit?
Name names.
no, it was two people
100% fake friends.
i thought betz getting mad at me for asking to get paid for the work i did and leaking dm's here in the threads while threatening to dox me, was bad, but holy shit those two were worse.
1, telling someone something i didnt say and confusing them into confroting me about it
2. almost, ALMOST, make it sound like i was hitting on somebody and asking for their nudes when im not interested at all, i just want to draw and hang around other artist, the frick is this shit?
its this actually
>ask someone if you found their nudes
it literally looked like you based on your twitter photos
>accuse them of being an npc
and again, wasn't calling you an npc
doesn't matter, im gone
How is it not uncomfortable to ask someone that stuff? I try to be cool/chill about it but it genuinely makes me uncomfortable to be asked if whoever naked person is me.
I never leaked any DMs so idk what you mean— If someone misunderstood what I was saying after I explained that isn’t what you did (because I did explain that, just said it was still uncomfortable) then I’m sorry but no, that’s not what I said.
Personally, I feel like I’ve been nothing but nice and understanding to you because I know you don’t mean to come off like a jerk but then it felt like you were trying to insult me for no reason after also making me really uncomfortable.
WHO ARE YOU
Wouldn’t you like to know
Are you trying to get Nyamo nudes?
I’m gonna defend him a bit here, he wasn’t trying to get nudes. At all.
Someone edited his comic and there was a naked fat girl in it, so he asked if it was me. It wasn’t.
That’s all it was, it’s not some big thing and he wasn’t trying to flirt or even trying to be weird but it did make me uncomfortable. I joked about it with someone in dms who I’m close with irl because I figured it wasn’t a big deal.
I did bring it up later to everyone as a joke because I didn’t know it would be an issue and I figured since I explained it no one would take it the wrong way but obviously they did.
Rari? Pinupcitizen?
stop guessing, it doesn't matter.
ive never asked for anybodies nudes, someone edited one of my webcomic pages with a naked girl and i asked [name protected] if they did it because the girl looked like them based on twitter photos and i thought they were trolling me, they werent so i forgot about it until it was brought up to attack me in a weird way like this:
im glad you understand i wasnt trying to be rude, i asked if you were trolling me, because everyone here is a troll including me, so its not something thats impossible. once you said no you werent trolling me and it wasnt you i said ok and moved on and forgot about it until you randomly brought it up again and said i was about to cross a line because you thought i called you an npc when i didnt.
sorry you took it the wrong way days/weeks later. dont care if you do or dont have nudes at all.
I only joked to Ruse about it, but uh yeah I wasn’t trying to slander your name or anything I was just joking about something I thought was slightly uncomfortable/funny and I didn’t take it too seriously so I’m sorry if I upset you
Discord is for gays and ngmis
I don’t really mind not making it big, I just make my stuff as a hobby
the way you said it in dm to me on discord made it sound like you were about to #metoo me for something i didnt do and cancel me, it freaked me out enough to set everything on fire and delete all my social media cuz im not that kind of guy
i cant undo deleting my twitter and discord, but now that its gone i feel a lot better so it can all stay deleted. i can focus on my art and comics and commissions from deviantart. all good.
i will eventually make a sfw twitter account one day, but no time soon.
Well I’m sorry about that, I didn’t take it too seriously just kinda weirded me out. I wouldn’t do something like that to someone.
Wishing you the best dude, genuinely hope things get better for you.
Will you never draw nsfw again? Did you find Jesus?
>and leaking dm's here
You mean after you kept spamming "shut up betz" over and over again you self-absorbed homosexual?
>You mean after you kept spamming "shut up betz" over and over again
you realize that wasn't bones right betz? you cant be that moronic to think that can you betz? im pretty sure it was fred or someone else that hates you, pick a name, no one likes you here.
Shut the frick up bones.
Oh, sorry, Jesse.
>you can't tell I'm bones but everyone I don't like is betz!
Can you turn your trip back on so I can filter you, you redditspacing tard? Or better yet just leave already and/or have a nice day?
I literally don’t know what you’re talking about but I do think it’s kind of an butthole thing to ask someone if you found their nudes and to accuse them of being an npc just because they were answering/helping someone with something
peak cringe
how did they betray you?
>well here's effort
some people dont feel that much
like gone limbs.
>but there's the stuff right there
why bother of depth, i guess. but hey, text are paper deeps anyway.
>Bones leaves the thread once again
I downloaded it so this utter embarrassment of yours is preserved forever. You sound like you never blow your nose.
>I downloaded it
You fool, I already screen recorded it!
i was putting on a voice, you cant prove it was me. have fun with that.
>your honor, my client was "putting on a voice"
deleted the video, threads almost over, im not sticking around to the end. bye.
literally who?
Waiiiit a god damn minute, is bones pretending to he sjw in this video? I've seen this motherfuker drop more homophobic pro nazi paragraphs than anyone in all of discord not to mention openly racist use of the n word and incel shit calling feminists and women in general garbage, this video is next level trolling.
I like how a lot of this can be retorted with but your here now bones
But anon, clearly you can't tell that he's here. Because he took off his tripcode, it's literally impossible to tell that an autistic moron who doesn't shut up anout betz and redditspaces ISN'T bones. Stop being a schizo. Also you're betz if you notice basic patterns.
Awww dang. Me betz is foild again in my evil plans yet again. Darn it. Better get get them next time in my endless quest
the thread cant die fast enough!
LET IT DIE~!
>KAW and NEO KAW are full of actual admitted nazis like Hydehermitstudios and stonesofanarchy/roadie
Do these numbskulls huff paint? Dumbshits have families and post their IRL info online while talking about white power.
>bump limit reached
finally this thread will die
>https://leetoo.net/how-to-promote-and-drive-traffic-to-your-webcomic/
what does quality actually mean, in specifics. or if planned, how to impose appeal correctly
like, maybe for big big crowds, since the text seems to suggest, quality makes qrowd
>goodbye everybody, im gone!
>AGAIN
>FOR REAL THIZ TIME!
Good.
Stay gone bones.
Yes, "bones."
You are a moronic homosexual for thinkig we can't tell just because your trip is off.