If you explain to them that 1. they're supposed to be the pro-incest faction and 2. their faction is literally called "the blacks" so it's a bit on the nose, they'll be sympathetic to you.
It's fantasy based on medieval Europe though. They take Europe, then add fantastical elements like magic/dragons/whatever to it, but for that kind of fantasy to work, it still has to be grounded in the reality of the time-frame they're adapting to fantasy. And one of the defining characteristics of medieval societies is that they were homogeneous, and there's dozens of reasons as to why this was so. And they applied to Europe, Asia, Africa and beyond.
The frick? Have you read the books or watched the show? Or ever consumed fantasy in general? Pretty much all fantasy takes Europe from 500AD-1700AD and just adds magic and elves and shit? Even the fricking Westerosi land mass is just Ireland and England resized and stop atop one another.
>that image
Hahahaha I never knew that's how he made the map. I figured he had drawn inspo from England and the fingers from that part of Ireland, but I didn't realize he just stacked them like that
It's even worse in this case. Valyrians interbred with one another and even their own family members to keep the bloodline pure. It wasn't until the Targs conquered Westeros that this changed, and even then they still preferred their own kind most of the time.
So if you had one Valyrian house that were, for some reason black, then over time the thousands of years they've been fricking each other, the remaining Valyrians would all become mutts as they mixed. You absolutely wouldn't have some who were black-as-pitch nigs and others who were white as snow, it makes no fricking sense at all
After Dance, from what I remember, was the first time the Valyrians actually tried to breed with outsiders because they were fricking killing each other and had no-one to marry to. So I don't know how they came up with the idea of a Black person Valyrian. At least pick some other Westerosi noblemen, not a fricking Valyrian. Besides Corlys being a Black person kinda fricks up the entire start of the conflict, so... I don't know how they're gonna spin that one, but they're certainly going to do their "best"
>I don't know how they're gonna spin that one
They won't spin anything. They won't even acknowledge the difference. Valyrians have always had black houses, and Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.
Thing is, you could totally bring blacks into the story in an organic way though, because the fricking Summer Islands exist, and those bastards loved to sail, were famous for it in fact, though they did prefer to keep to their islands for the most part. But bringing them in for whatever reason is still far less egregious than completely disregarding the canon and destroying the setting because the show runners are triggered over white people.
Thats what they do in fantasy now. There is no logic, in Warcraft they suddenly added blacks and Asians overnight. There's kingdoms in geographical areas where such humans would evolve. And if you ask they just reply "it's magic, bigot"
>You absolutely wouldn't have some who were black-as-pitch nigs and others who were white as snow, it makes no fricking sense at all
Unless you were targeting your show to millennial single women "geek girls" who absolutely give zero fricks about that kind of verisimilitude and care vastly more about "representation" in theory. The irony is that they wont like the show either, will be irritable that it sucks, but will be completely incapable of admitting it's because of the moronic casting.
Yes, because conflict with Muslims and the crusades were also a defining aspect of the period. That's also why fantasy usually has the deserty-nomady-totally-not-muslim races, it's a common trope.
Also, frick you're stupid, don't reply to me again you moronic homosexual.
>mad is because you're seeing non-white people on screen
Substitute non-white for white and what you said is the precise reason they're doing this in the first place, it's fricking hilarious
2 years ago
Anonymous
>we didn't want to do it in a way that felt like it was an afterthought or, worse, tokenism
2 years ago
Anonymous
Why is Rhaenys fat? She was athletic into her old age to her death.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Because fat is healthy.
2 years ago
Anonymous
the only reason they're throwing in non-white people in there is so when morons like you keep giving dumpster fires publicity by getting mad about shit you shouldn't be caring about they can use it as an excuse and if you you're too obtuse to see it you're gay and moronic
2 years ago
Anonymous
>implying
You need to go back
2 years ago
Anonymous
frick off
2 years ago
Anonymous
>>we didn't want to do it in a way that felt like it was an afterthought
>the only real reason you're mad is because you're seeing non-white people on screen
Fake and gay. Frick off, anti-White piece of shit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not being anti-black doesn't make you anti-white you fricking crybaby.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes, it does. If you hold that opinion, you're either non-white yourself or you have no in-group preference, to which I say you're a traitor. Either way, you need to frick off.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You sound like a sensitive homosexual who has no identity beyond race. That's a pathetic way to live.
2 years ago
Anonymous
If he ever feels bad about his life he can always just look at yours you pathetic fat freak wasting his neckbearded life on website he doesn't even like trying and failing to sabotage it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
nice syntax, kid. now post your ugly face so i can laugh at it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>um, um, syntax
redditor to the very end
2 years ago
Anonymous
someone should rethink allowing you access to the internet
2 years ago
Anonymous
>BTFO him so hard he wants me banned from the internet
2 years ago
Anonymous
no, i mean that you must be 18 to post here and you're obviously stunting your development. also, nobody wins on the internet. if you believe otherwise you're a huge fricking homosexual.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Race is the core identity of every non-white group in the world, idiot. Literally every race but whites. It's solely white people who have been conditioned and brainwashed to think its a bad thing when they do it, and that's why the majority ignore outright attacks on their culture, race and people. It's disgusting. Now don't fricking @ me ever again, and have a nice day while you're at it too, c**t.
2 years ago
Anonymous
sounds like you don't have a life, pussy
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sounds like you need to suck start a shotgun, homosexual
2 years ago
Anonymous
so edgy, maybe you need to take a nap or pop a couple of those SSRIs
2 years ago
Anonymous
but it's also dumb and wrong when other races do it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
And yet most other races are doing just fine among their own kind
2 years ago
Anonymous
Do you think every Asian on the planet hates white people? Are they traitors for not hating white people?
You're contributing to white genocide by being here posting about this right now. Your home and culture are being erased and all you can do is whine about a knockoff product that was always obviously going to be garbage. I saw an indian dude who clearly had some white collar job walking around with a 7/10 white chick today and he's fricking displacing you because you're here posting right now.
George himself has repeatedly said that England was his inspiration. Yes it's a mesh of various European kingdoms and biomes. Yes I know it's not 15th century England. The point is it is out of place.
The Targs are from Essos, which is a clusterfrick of 'everywhere else in the world (but mostly middle east)'.
That said it makes no sense for them all to have been nignogs when the line is supposed to be known for their porcelain skin and white hair.
George himself has repeatedly said that England was his inspiration. Yes it's a mesh of various European kingdoms and biomes. Yes I know it's not 15th century England. The point is it is out of place.
If people wanted more diversity in Game of Thrones why didn't HBO go back and redo the Dorne storyline and make it a worthwhile watch? Is Game of Thrones untouchable if D&D aren't the showrunners? HBO wanted 3 more seasons. Do writers not exist anymore? Are all of the actors busy with other work?
Literally nobody cares about this show but brain-rotted poltards and idpol leftist troons, they're the only ones talking about it. Nobody else gives a frick, especially the burlington bar normies who ate up the original show. It ended so badly and left such a bad taste in their mouths, I'm honestly shocked anyone who try and revive it at this point
>it has dragons, blood magic, resurrections, ice demons, magic swords, ghosts, giants and mini-elves in it >BUT IS T-THAT A BLACK PERSON?!!?!? OH MY GOD WHAT THE FRICK THIS IS A BRIDGE TOO FAR THINK ABOUT THE REALISM
What you described are magical creatures. Are Black folk magical creatures? There has to be logical consistency in a story otherwise it falls apart. By the same token why don't you just make humans shoot fireballs from their eyes since "hurr durr there be dragons in the story"?
It's fantasy based on medieval Europe though. They take Europe, then add fantastical elements like magic/dragons/whatever to it, but for that kind of fantasy to work, it still has to be grounded in the reality of the time-frame they're adapting to fantasy. And one of the defining characteristics of medieval societies is that they were homogeneous, and there's dozens of reasons as to why this was so. And they applied to Europe, Asia, Africa and beyond.
Even ignoring semi-autistic "muh realism" arguments, which have some merit, the world of ASOIAF is pre-established. We know precisely what all the races and characters look like, and Valyrian's aren't black. The way the inbreed even precludes the possibility of having diverse Valyrian houses.
If they want "diverse" fantasy, they need to write their own shit instead of literally appropriating other people's work to shove their messaging in.
Doing this is the same as making Boyz N the Hood but with white people. If black characters can't be white-washed, then white characters can't be black-washed. Sorry.
What justification are they giving for the Velaryons looking like Sothorions, considering GRRM approved it?
In the book a targaryen kid is scared shitless when she sees a black man for the first time, wouldn't occur if their velayrion cousins were all like that.
das rite
Why do normies get so angry when you are critical of this?
They replaced concern for their futures with concern for Black folk.
They are deeply programmed.
They don't, the people defending this are the height of abnormal and mentally unwell.
If you explain to them that 1. they're supposed to be the pro-incest faction and 2. their faction is literally called "the blacks" so it's a bit on the nose, they'll be sympathetic to you.
The show doesn't take place in 15th century England. But you knew that, didn't you false flagger?
It's fantasy based on medieval Europe though. They take Europe, then add fantastical elements like magic/dragons/whatever to it, but for that kind of fantasy to work, it still has to be grounded in the reality of the time-frame they're adapting to fantasy. And one of the defining characteristics of medieval societies is that they were homogeneous, and there's dozens of reasons as to why this was so. And they applied to Europe, Asia, Africa and beyond.
Which part of the show is based on Europe? George RR Martin isn't even European.
The frick? Have you read the books or watched the show? Or ever consumed fantasy in general? Pretty much all fantasy takes Europe from 500AD-1700AD and just adds magic and elves and shit? Even the fricking Westerosi land mass is just Ireland and England resized and stop atop one another.
>just Ireland and England resized and stop atop one another.
holy shit haha, what a frickin hack
and dorne is the iberian penisula
Dorne is Cornwall m8
>that image
Hahahaha I never knew that's how he made the map. I figured he had drawn inspo from England and the fingers from that part of Ireland, but I didn't realize he just stacked them like that
I always knew scotland was an inhospitable shithole
I've had friends layover in Glasgow and they had a cracking time...
He literally said that he based ASOIAF on the War of the Roses.
It's even worse in this case. Valyrians interbred with one another and even their own family members to keep the bloodline pure. It wasn't until the Targs conquered Westeros that this changed, and even then they still preferred their own kind most of the time.
So if you had one Valyrian house that were, for some reason black, then over time the thousands of years they've been fricking each other, the remaining Valyrians would all become mutts as they mixed. You absolutely wouldn't have some who were black-as-pitch nigs and others who were white as snow, it makes no fricking sense at all
Someone must have been cucked.
After Dance, from what I remember, was the first time the Valyrians actually tried to breed with outsiders because they were fricking killing each other and had no-one to marry to. So I don't know how they came up with the idea of a Black person Valyrian. At least pick some other Westerosi noblemen, not a fricking Valyrian. Besides Corlys being a Black person kinda fricks up the entire start of the conflict, so... I don't know how they're gonna spin that one, but they're certainly going to do their "best"
>I don't know how they're gonna spin that one
They won't spin anything. They won't even acknowledge the difference. Valyrians have always had black houses, and Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.
Thing is, you could totally bring blacks into the story in an organic way though, because the fricking Summer Islands exist, and those bastards loved to sail, were famous for it in fact, though they did prefer to keep to their islands for the most part. But bringing them in for whatever reason is still far less egregious than completely disregarding the canon and destroying the setting because the show runners are triggered over white people.
Thats what they do in fantasy now. There is no logic, in Warcraft they suddenly added blacks and Asians overnight. There's kingdoms in geographical areas where such humans would evolve. And if you ask they just reply "it's magic, bigot"
>You absolutely wouldn't have some who were black-as-pitch nigs and others who were white as snow, it makes no fricking sense at all
Unless you were targeting your show to millennial single women "geek girls" who absolutely give zero fricks about that kind of verisimilitude and care vastly more about "representation" in theory. The irony is that they wont like the show either, will be irritable that it sucks, but will be completely incapable of admitting it's because of the moronic casting.
oh yes, the medieval europe known for its deserts, nomadic tribes and exoitc harems
Yes, because conflict with Muslims and the crusades were also a defining aspect of the period. That's also why fantasy usually has the deserty-nomady-totally-not-muslim races, it's a common trope.
Also, frick you're stupid, don't reply to me again you moronic homosexual.
Yep, Dorne is basically Umayyad Spain.
show is shit, you're gay and moronic, and the only real reason you're mad is because you're seeing non-white people on screen
>mad is because you're seeing non-white people on screen
Substitute non-white for white and what you said is the precise reason they're doing this in the first place, it's fricking hilarious
>we didn't want to do it in a way that felt like it was an afterthought or, worse, tokenism
Why is Rhaenys fat? She was athletic into her old age to her death.
Because fat is healthy.
the only reason they're throwing in non-white people in there is so when morons like you keep giving dumpster fires publicity by getting mad about shit you shouldn't be caring about they can use it as an excuse and if you you're too obtuse to see it you're gay and moronic
>implying
You need to go back
frick off
>>we didn't want to do it in a way that felt like it was an afterthought
>the only real reason you're mad is because you're seeing non-white people on screen
Fake and gay. Frick off, anti-White piece of shit.
Not being anti-black doesn't make you anti-white you fricking crybaby.
Yes, it does. If you hold that opinion, you're either non-white yourself or you have no in-group preference, to which I say you're a traitor. Either way, you need to frick off.
You sound like a sensitive homosexual who has no identity beyond race. That's a pathetic way to live.
If he ever feels bad about his life he can always just look at yours you pathetic fat freak wasting his neckbearded life on website he doesn't even like trying and failing to sabotage it.
nice syntax, kid. now post your ugly face so i can laugh at it.
>um, um, syntax
redditor to the very end
someone should rethink allowing you access to the internet
>BTFO him so hard he wants me banned from the internet
no, i mean that you must be 18 to post here and you're obviously stunting your development. also, nobody wins on the internet. if you believe otherwise you're a huge fricking homosexual.
Race is the core identity of every non-white group in the world, idiot. Literally every race but whites. It's solely white people who have been conditioned and brainwashed to think its a bad thing when they do it, and that's why the majority ignore outright attacks on their culture, race and people. It's disgusting. Now don't fricking @ me ever again, and have a nice day while you're at it too, c**t.
sounds like you don't have a life, pussy
Sounds like you need to suck start a shotgun, homosexual
so edgy, maybe you need to take a nap or pop a couple of those SSRIs
but it's also dumb and wrong when other races do it.
And yet most other races are doing just fine among their own kind
Do you think every Asian on the planet hates white people? Are they traitors for not hating white people?
Frick off moron.
tbh that is how I imagine half of spain during the middle ages
Vale is based on Germany (through different eras), Dorne is based on Andalusia and the Moors.
You're contributing to white genocide by being here posting about this right now. Your home and culture are being erased and all you can do is whine about a knockoff product that was always obviously going to be garbage. I saw an indian dude who clearly had some white collar job walking around with a 7/10 white chick today and he's fricking displacing you because you're here posting right now.
I'm not white and I don't even live in the west, doesn't mean I don't appreciate their cultures, history and myths all the same.
A lot of words just to b***h about something that's not Europe
This is correct. The only counter argument is "nah, you're just racist", which translates to "I concede"
That’s the easy answer for mindless idiots. They have no proper argument.
The Targs are from Essos, which is a clusterfrick of 'everywhere else in the world (but mostly middle east)'.
That said it makes no sense for them all to have been nignogs when the line is supposed to be known for their porcelain skin and white hair.
George himself has repeatedly said that England was his inspiration. Yes it's a mesh of various European kingdoms and biomes. Yes I know it's not 15th century England. The point is it is out of place.
>Lancasters vs Yorks
But you knew that, didn't you?
There were black kings
*kangz
House of the Dragons? More like:
Who the Frick Cares?
Black folk.
They've been doing this for a while, they love to pass black actors off as moors.
Who do you think sold us the slaves?
If people wanted more diversity in Game of Thrones why didn't HBO go back and redo the Dorne storyline and make it a worthwhile watch? Is Game of Thrones untouchable if D&D aren't the showrunners? HBO wanted 3 more seasons. Do writers not exist anymore? Are all of the actors busy with other work?
>says they need more black actors
>cuts all the actual black characters in AGOT
>makes white ones black instead in dance
Literally all they had to do was give Jalabhar and Chataya like 30 seconds of speaking time.
I bet all of these real Westerosi are really offended right now
another house of the dead movie?
why
At least they didn't forget about all those dragons in 15th century England.
I'm simply not watching it
>black valyrian with dreadlocks
So I'm assuming the people producing this show are small-hats? Do I even need to look up their early history?
Benioff and Weiss lol
>but there's been africans in britain since roman times
what a load of fricking bollocks
maybe some north africans but not blackies
Literally nobody cares about this show but brain-rotted poltards and idpol leftist troons, they're the only ones talking about it. Nobody else gives a frick, especially the burlington bar normies who ate up the original show. It ended so badly and left such a bad taste in their mouths, I'm honestly shocked anyone who try and revive it at this point
Nobody asked you, c**t.
>15th century England
>GoT
>it has dragons, blood magic, resurrections, ice demons, magic swords, ghosts, giants and mini-elves in it
>BUT IS T-THAT A BLACK PERSON?!!?!? OH MY GOD WHAT THE FRICK THIS IS A BRIDGE TOO FAR THINK ABOUT THE REALISM
What you described are magical creatures. Are Black folk magical creatures? There has to be logical consistency in a story otherwise it falls apart. By the same token why don't you just make humans shoot fireballs from their eyes since "hurr durr there be dragons in the story"?
Ar dey hea?
Isn’t this in a fantasy world? I thought England and what not doesn’t exist in this fantasy world…
see
Even ignoring semi-autistic "muh realism" arguments, which have some merit, the world of ASOIAF is pre-established. We know precisely what all the races and characters look like, and Valyrian's aren't black. The way the inbreed even precludes the possibility of having diverse Valyrian houses.
If they want "diverse" fantasy, they need to write their own shit instead of literally appropriating other people's work to shove their messaging in.
Maybe you should stop watching TV if this upsets you so much
Doing this is the same as making Boyz N the Hood but with white people. If black characters can't be white-washed, then white characters can't be black-washed. Sorry.
I'm ok with it. It means this moronic Eskimo b***h will have nothing more to say.
byzantium gets a constant ignore from any western historical setting shows.
why?
Don't want Black personcattle to know about the turkish landgrab
W*stoids fear the Greek
Because it inevitably involves Christians getting btfo by Muslims.
>Because it inevitably involves Christians getting btfo by "Christians"
corrected
Still too soon
They wuz kings.
They're all ugly as frick though. Could they not at least hire attractive black people since valyrian's are supposed to be hot?
Black folks are disgusting to look at.
/thread
>simping for black girls
Never actually dated one, huh?
It's the same chuddy replying to himself, ignore him
I am black
Not him.
>I am black
didn't ask if you'd dated yourself.
Left with the tummy of middle please
*racism beam noises*
>same 'lol you dont like blacks' posts, again and again
>ip count doesnt increase with each one
lmao
No shit, you don't need to watch ip counts or CinemaphileX to tell you its a samehomosexual doing it
cry more fragile white incel you've already lost
What justification are they giving for the Velaryons looking like Sothorions, considering GRRM approved it?
In the book a targaryen kid is scared shitless when she sees a black man for the first time, wouldn't occur if their velayrion cousins were all like that.
Dude, they're aren't going to give any justification. They're just going to have them there like they always WERE there.
the REEEing will never end.