This.
Disney raped this franchise for everything it had.
How could any duture installments in the star wars series actually save it?
Of course redditors will always eat up their goyslop but as an actual thinking human being this series is dead to me.
They beat the dead horse to a bloody pulp.
>How could any duture installments in the star wars series actually save it?
Pull the Alien movie, just decanonize anything that happened after the sale. Then start with mid-budget productions (regaining trust) geared toward boys. Make bounty hunter stuff (Mandalorian but good), make some teenaged Jedi Padawan stuff (something like Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon) and also make the Empire cool (Star Wars: Legacy did a great job there).
End the franchise for good and tell redditors to kill themselves Ronnie McNutt style.
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Anonymous
There need to be stories for boys growing up and the whole "retvrn to tradition" LARP (as in returning to purely classical literature) doesn't really work out, I think. You need to create new media but also kinda work with what's there right now. So, better Star Wars stories are a way to go.
>Then start with mid-budget productions (regaining trust) geared toward boys
The issue here is that this was originally Disney's plan. They DID actually want to gear their productions initially to boys, including the sequels.
The problem is that the creatives are all completely untrustworthy. You can't rely on them to make things that people want, because they're delusional about what people need.
Shouldn't have hired all those poison pills that are Abrams, Kasdan and Johnson then. The only good hire in the main departments was Terrio, too little, too late.
>They DID actually want to gear their productions initially to boys, including the sequels.
What about the sequels marketed to boys? I cannot think of anything. All the major story decisions were nothing boys give a shit about. Which boy cares about Rey? About Finn getting kissed by an ugly chink? About Poe's actor being told he's a dumbass male by the pink hair lady? There is nearly zero male energy in those movies.
>The problem is that the creatives are all completely untrustworthy
Thoughts on Benson & Moorhead or Guy Ritchie?
Maybe give Duncan Jones another shot.
Do a really mid-budget one and get S. Craig Zahler to write the screenplay.
Get a project done with the Jim Henson company.
Get David Leitch or Chad Stahelsky or Sam Hargrave to do some bounty hunter stuff.
Maybe offer Tarsem Singh some work.
Doesn't Disney own lucasfilm? So wouldn't you have to buy Disney? Are you buying Disney? Why would you buy Disney?
-- Jerry "Bingo" Jetson, the Daily Crooner
Considering the damage done to the brand by kk, I certainly hope you're not expecting to pay the former purchase price of $4.05B. It ain't worth it, bro. It's used goods.
Can't go into details on prospective prices but it's nowhere close to 4.05B. They know the reputation is tarnished and that they can't get the original amount back.
why waste your money?
It doesn't really affect me.
Doesn't Disney own lucasfilm? So wouldn't you have to buy Disney? Are you buying Disney? Why would you buy Disney?
-- Jerry "Bingo" Jetson, the Daily Crooner
Someone else is probably going to end up buying disney in the near future, I wouldn't know for certain, but strong speculation that it's going to be Apple.
>Can't go into details on prospective prices but it's nowhere close to 4.05B. They know the reputation is tarnished and that they can't get the original amount back.
You’re buying it for 2.5B, I know this because I know what’s going on 😉
Star Wars is worth about 500 million right now and that's being generous. Maybe Disney will be able to sweet talk the buyer into $1b but that's about it. This exact same shit happened like 20 years ago when Disney bought Power Rangers. They paid like $5 billion for it and Hiam Saban bought it back for only $60 million. Star Wars might actually be worth less than half a billion because of how much brand damage Disney has done to it.
Like I said, Power Rangers. Power Rangers was at one time a bigger IP than Star Wars, which I know is hard for some people to understand, but it was a big deal, especially in terms of merchandising. If you frick up an IP badly enough and only have adult collectors holding it up, it's no longer a cash cow. Star Wars used to have its own aisle in the toy store, and it was all Kenner / Hasbro. Now it only has a tiny section in the toy aisle and it's from like 10 different manufacturers because Disney has had to practically give away the license for it to be profitable for the manufacturers.
Don't listen to the queefs. Give Jon Favreau a shot at his own trilogy. Let him do what he wants without interference.
He's the only guy I've seen get close to the strangeness and mad energy of the original SW.
His instincts extended to hiring Werner Herzog who was the person who pushed them to use the baby yoda stand-in puppet on screen rather than shitty cgi. Which was a runaway hit. The ONLY merch hit of recent SW product.
Let Star Wars be a bit crazy again. Not nonsensical and insulting "crazy". Wild and fun "crazy".
Elon, don’t waste your time. It’s dead. But I Implore you to take your millions and instead create a brand new original epic space fantasy. Why would you want a production company full of dead ip’s?
>Elon buying Star Wars
I thought poor star wars death could not be more tragic but now I have to watch the corpse dug up and fricking by an obnoxious south African spoiled brat coke head fraud. Make it stop for frick sake. Make it stop.
The only way to really, truly, and completely fix Star Wars is to restore Luke Skywalker, his character, and his Jedi Order to prominence. Build around Luke now while MILLIONS of fans are still desperate to give you money for Luke content.
And then, use this newly empowered Luke Skywalker and his New Jedi Order to build out the next generation and have him properly pass the torch to his heirs/ students, etc.
As long as fans believe that the next generation really represents Luke and carries on his Jedi Order and his legacy, I think this franchise can still be saved. (Rey is a failed character).
Also, make Star Wars epic, and thrilling, and weird again. Right now, it is insanely dull. Build out the lore and mythology. Get Sebastian Stan too.
I wonder if you could negotiate to just buy the old shit, let them keep Disneywars
Disney would want to sell all rights and therein.
The only exception that I can reveal are the theme parks, which we could care less about. My lawyer says its best that they get to keep the parks without re-branding which would be easier for them and "Sweeten" the deal.
anon is right
bioware was great when they made KOTOR, but then when they made their own sci fi IP mass effect with similar gameplay and writing, it just felt wrong and it will never ever be as appealing as SW
must be a bargain right now compared to its potential value
good luck anon
if you do, reassemble lucasarts and get starwars 1313 back in production
also 3d bluray or digital releases of the prequel and sequel trilogy would be nice, though ai seems to be really good at converting stuff on the fly
>sequel trilogy
I meant original trilogy
the disney sequel trilogy needs to be decanonised and forgotten, get lucas to write a treatment for the true sequel trilogy and then get a good director to make it faithfully with AI or whatever
Sequel trilogy will be rendered null and void. It was a bad direction. We have a clear direction of where we want to take it, nothing concrete though. There will be a focus on profitability and my execs are focused on the money aspect, which in turn should cater to fan demand.
>brand new original epic space fantasy
this is actually much harder than you think
there's many imitations and none really have the appeal of starwars
See above.
I don't think The Mouse is going to let that property go, Op. It's not done bleeding it dry.
You underestimate the position Disney is in. They've gone on for a long time thinking they had infinite cash flow and their properties have influenced society. Society is not functioning in the way they'd expect.
Sounds good. There are literally tens of billions of dollars out there waiting to be spent on Star Wars but Disney seems to have idea how to get it, and Kathleen Kennedy is too controversial as a figurehead.
>and restore the expanded universe
Do not do this. It doesn't matter who owns the company, all the writers and creatives in charge of actually making anything are pozzed to shit, you can even see hints of it creeping that way at the end of the EU. Bringing it back would just mean tons of characters get their race or sexuality retconned and the entire thing is slowly ruined by modernisms.
As an EU gay I concur. Traviss already put an homosexual mandalorian couple before she was booted out. And many of old EU writers are senile or dead. The best they can do with EU materials would be making animated adaptations out of the novels, and making more video games set in old EU
The only things I actually want continued from the EU are the KotOR comics, BF3 and KotOR 3, but it'll take a miracle for them to remain untouched by modern commentary.
Disney isn't going to sell Lucasfilm for anything less than 50 Billion. Best case scenario for you is that they hear your pitch and offer at most 30% of the shares.
Would you be able to do the expanded universe sequels from timothy zang or would you like to mix and match the ideas of george lucas original treatment for the sequels
and if you are not larping
please make canon the expanded universe and make movies out of it
we need mara Jade, i want luke to be happy again man
>i want luke to be happy again man
luke's not even real, also it's impossible to make every fan happy
all I want is lucas' vision to be respected, I wanna see what he was getting at with midichlorians, even if it pisses everyone off
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qggzDuyLm1A
He's explained the Whills before, the problem is that he's an idiot and fails to understand that the concept of the Whills makes Star Wars into an absurd dystopia.
>i want luke to be happy again man
luke's not even real, also it's impossible to make every fan happy
all I want is lucas' vision to be respected, I wanna see what he was getting at with midichlorians, even if it pisses everyone off
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qggzDuyLm1A
We want to take Lucas' vision into account. All I can really say is that after Disney, he's more heavily involved in the process.
There will be an emphasis on Luke. There are talks about live action appearances but more than likely there will definitely be animated ones.
The "Clone Wars" style of animation is popular in the target market group and that will be a reoccurring theme that is kept moving forwards.
lucas was preparing to do a live action tv series set after rotj after he finished episode iii, but then he went with clone wars first and then this got canned by disney
>"It sits on the shelf. We have 50 hours. We are trying to figure out a different way of making movies. We are looking for a different technology that we can use, that will make it economically feasible to shoot the show. Right now, it looks like the Star Wars features. But we have to figure out how to make it at about a tenth of the cost of the features, because its television. We are working toward that, and we continue to work towards that. We will get there at some point. It's just a very difficult process. Obviously, when we do figure this problem out, it will dramatically effect features, because feature films are costing between $250 to $350 million. When we figure this out, they will be able to make a feature film for $50 million."
―George Lucas[src]
finishing his vision can really set it apart from the disney shows and be a return to form
and I think mandalorian proves that ILM is more than ready to handle tv shows with high end vfx
We want to absorb the showrunners/producers/talent/ etc from these shows, it's a matter of ensuring it doesn't breach any contract these individuals/entities might have.
Mandalorian is an asset we want to keep but it will be difficult trying to walk back after Book of Boba Fett and Season 3.
Ultimately though it's been decided that after the conclusion of the Bad Batch, there will be less of a focus on the Prequel era. Whereas it's a popular era among target markets, we feel as if it's milked too much, (Disney has been milking the prequel era to make up for lackluster sequels) then over all consumers will be tired of it.
We want to develop and expand on new sequels that will make up for Disney's shortcomings
There's really no set plan on what's being released or what projects we would do.
The most important thing is rectifying what Disney has done. Which there is still a vague idea.
Lucasfilm needs to build it's repour with consumers again before we can hope to start up new projects like video games.
11 months ago
Anonymous
this is still more interesting than anything disney made and tied into the cancelled tv series
you gotta do both if you revive underworld
11 months ago
Anonymous
>build it's repour with consumers again before we can hope to start up new projects like video games.
when you do, pick up where lucasarts left off, gamers have been starving
EA can let DICE do battlefront 3, but force them no microtransactions and to include an option to turn off female voices, it just pulls you out of the experience, it ruined a perfectly good game
11 months ago
Anonymous
>battlefront 3
oh wow, looks like the reason EA isn't doing BF3 is because disney is greedy even though they made 2 great looking starwars games >Journalist Tom Henderson, who has a strong track record with EA reporting, also claimed in November that plans for a third Battlefront game from DICE were rejected by EA due to the costs of using the Star Wars license.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Tom Henderson, who has a strong track record with EA reporting, also claimed in November that plans for a third Battlefront game from DICE were rejected by EA due to the costs of using the Star Wars license.
Fun fact EA also dropped the FIFA football game franchise which was one of the longest running and most profitable franchises in video game history. Same reason , cost.
https://www.ign.com/articles/ea-sports-fc-fifa-split-reasons
Video game industry is on the verge of a cyclical crash where it is pushed off a cliff by first world recession in Europe and a cost of living crisis. EA are just being smart.
11 months ago
Anonymous
turns out they need to sell 20% more battlefront copies than battlefield to make a profit
if disney just let them use the license for cheaper, then they would still have benefited
>EA are just being smart
I fault disney for not allowing BF3 to go ahead
I fault EA for making DICE put microtransactions in BF2 which tarnished its release
dunno who is to blame for female stormtroopers
BF3 could have finally nailed the formula
11 months ago
Anonymous
Same thing happened with Atari and ET. Franchises are just game window dressing in the end of the day, if you have a super fast physics engine that produces a wonderful visual and auditory experience slapping the star wars name on it or fifa really is not worth a billion dollars (this is what FIFA wanted every four years for the FIFA name on EA boxes). Atari paid 21 million for the rights to ET right at the peak of a cyclical game industry with no fricking game. EA are being smart because winter is coming in games world and you don't want to be stuck with a billion dollars of fifa boxes and more on the star wars name when discretionary spending falls off a cliff.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I'd say the mid 10's should have called a crash as we saw the closure of numerous studios at the time.
star wars is dead. Its actually painful to even see the words star wars at this stage especially after carrie fishers death and digitisation soul rape by corporation, no longer a sparky princess now an ageing career divorcee in the middle of an spew of insulting and worthless films that depicted a generations childhood fantasy heroes as being murdered by their children and drinking green milk on a rock. I'm one of the ones that never saw the last one and will never under any circumstance watch anything star wars related ever again, even for free. Even if George Lucas carved it from moon rock while building an actual death star.
If Disney was even halfway competent, they would have done an animated series set in the Galactic Civil War which follows all the main characters after ANH, and Ahsoka would have just come in after ESB to be Luke's master (since he never went back to Dagobah until RotJ), and then Luke watches her be killed by Vader at some point.
To further elaborate we have intentions of completely re-doing Episode 7. If the purchase goes through this will not be announced, only that there will be another Star Wars movie. Consumers won't know it's "Episode 7" until the title crawl.
This plan would be years out though. Needs to be an emphasis on communicating that there will be a course correction and discard through smaller mediums. Only then can the franchise move forwards.
Unlike popular notion Legends Luke was not really all-powerful and happy. He had to endure even more suffering than the Disney couterpart, only difference is that Legends Luke managed to live through it without going bonkers
If you are not George Lucas don't. If you are Chinese I will actually physically destroy anything I see with the words star wars or indiana jones on it
This is correct. Give me the money and I’ll create a unique space fantasy series. There will be zero identity politics. There will be no feminism. Men will act like men and women will act like women. There will be no homosexuality. The characters dialogue will not sound like it was written by high schoolers. Best of all, I will see to it that the IP can never lawfully introduce these elements in the future, nor can any adaptation of it.
>Can't go into details on prospective prices but it's nowhere close to 4.05B. They know the reputation is tarnished and that they can't get the original amount back.
You’re buying it for 2.5B, I know this because I know what’s going on 😉
Doomwiener is only half right about things, I've seen his videos.
Disney won't fire Kennedy. that will be on us if the purchase goes through. That's the first order of business. Disney won't fire her because it would look bad political wise and confirm to consumers that the consumer was right all along.
I have a president lined up, will not say who for confidentiality.
It's the only thing they haven't tarnished is my guess.
I'm only the prospective buyer, but if I had to guess, they haven't touched it because at this point Disney execs know that everything has been essentially soiled. They didn't want to make the risk of ruining that brand as well.
>You all might be surprised, but we have sold over 33 million copies of Star Wars Battlefront I and Battlefront II combined. That’s a huge tale for our business going forward. – Blake Jorgensen – Chief Financial Officer and Chief Operating Officer
disney is dumb for not letting them do BF3 without gouging them for license fees, it would have done more to excite fans about SW than any of their films
Identity politics have to be avoided at all costs. Star Wars is a franchise that I believe anyone can relate to. I, and the people that I'm working with hold the belief that it can regain that status. You can still have diversity and inclusion while still making a good story. This has been at the core of Star Wars.
>You can still have diversity and inclusion while still making a good story. >"diversity and inclusion"
Not if you still use that gigapozzed terminology. The way leftist religion works is by repeating the same phrases so often that even normalgays use then without realizing. "Toxic" for example. "Y'all" is another one.
>trad LARP
Yeah, no shit, there still needs to be culture and people won't just automatically start picking up the old stuff. People want new things, so the responsibility is to make good new things.
Reading for the sake of reading is a good skill to have. You don't just read something because "it's good" dumbass.
I've read bad books and good books. At least I used my brain.
>At least they actually read books.
Boomers are insanely illiterate. Millennials as a generation as well, what are you talking about?
>Boomers are insanely illiterate >I hate old people because the internet told me to!
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Anonymous
>I hate old people because the internet told me to!
Dude, I do interact with them IRL. Most of them are developmentally stunted, and I don't say that in order to be mean. They are stuck at a mental age of like 14-16. Have you ever taken a look at divorce stats or how they hoard wealth? I blame the post WW2 Karl Popper kind of shit for that.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>developmentally stunted
That's because they've lived an entire lifetime and their bodies and minds don't work as good as it used to dumb frick. You'll be the same way when you get old and then some little shit kids are gonna insult you too.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>That's because they've lived an entire lifetime
They are still teenagers in their heads. There's a profound lack of wisdom in them.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Well you're only showing how moronic you actually are.
You haven't interacted with every old person on earth so you're just generalizing.
Most old people I've met were extremely wise spiritually and mentally and can spot bullshit just by looking at someone.
A lot of old people I've interacted with garnered a lot of skills because of a lifetime of hard working many many many jobs.
Interact with an old war veteran and I guarantee you'll realize you're an ignorant fool talking out of your ass.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>you're just generalizing
Of course I am.
Riddle me this:
Why is civilization collapsing (and yes, it is, just visit the doctor), why are we at sub-replacement fertility rate, why are there more sexually confused people than ever before, why is religion being abandoned at such a high rate?
Why do all these things happen and keep happening if the people with the wealth (and wisdom as you say) are such stellar specimen?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Those aren't Boomers dumbfrick.
Those are the elite wealthy ruling families that have been around for centuries.
The people you're mentioning are literally only a couple thousand people in the whole world who control everything.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>The people you're mentioning are literally only a couple thousand people in the whole world who control everything
Yeah, sure, but who keeps them in power? Who did get manipulated by their machinations? Boomers are in league with them, unknowingly for the most part, but still are.
They would after some time, hence why I'd reduce budgets in the beginning and focus on design work and writing. A movie like Dredd (2012) cost like 30-35 million, so it can clearly work.
Shouldn't go the Andor route of making everything bland and slow of course, beautiful imagery is very important to Star Wars (and can evidently be achieved with small budgets).
This. Nothing redeemable in there. Rogue One and Andor were bland with cool moments few and far between. Force Awakens isn't even a movie, Last Jedi is unbelievably ugly (Admiral Gender Studies, fat Asian girl, most of the designs and the general feeling if totally off) and Rise of Skywalker is an overstuffed mess though the least bad in my opinion (probably because Terrio is a good writer). No one watched Basedlo and it felt like a boring pilot episode for some scrapped tv series anyway.
There's a treasure trove of unused footage and the original shots in front of a green screen.
I can only assume there's contract/union frickery going on that prevents that footage from being retailored but theoretically they don't actually need to shoot anything else
Couldn’t a movie theoretically be made with old Luke after Han and Leia’s deaths? With them being implied to have led happy and fulfilling lives with a few flashbacks thrown here and there showing them doing well
>Lawsuit against Acolyte production >Galactic Starfighter hotel shut down and Willow removed from Disney+ on day of Cannes premiere >Indy 5 getting bad reviews at Cannes >Interest in Star Wars in decline >Disney in deep shit financially with underperformers and flops, and also having problems like the Hulu buyout
Even if Doomwiener's rumors aren't true again, it's sure mindbreaking the Disney and Lucasfilm shills on this board
Idk how Disney is going to course correct. They murdered the star wars brand, marvel looks to be heading the same way, nobody wanted or liked black little mermaid, even more people want nothing to do with Indy 5. They got big problems.
they can't be saved, it's been 100 years since they were created, everything has an expiry date
nintendo and universal are eating their lunch now on their first try
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_animated_films
why would a kid want to go to disney land when they can see mario, jurassic world, harry potter and jaws at universal
and bob iger is still doubling down on the woke stuff, even as everything collapses, even the goddam dragon at the theme park burnt down
and then there's the fight with desantis
disney is D O N E
I wonder if kids actually like Disney stuff outside of marvel for boys nowadays.
It seems like kids just dont care for Mickey and gang anymore so what other draw is there for them to like Disney?
I went to Disneyland last year and it blew me away how they put so much into star wars land yet it's only the sequel shit. How fricking dumb are they to build a star wars land and have zero mention of the prequels or OT you can't even merch from prequels or OT just think of how much money they're leaving on the table because??? Like I don't understand that move at all.
On paper, I get it. They wanted Galaxy's Edge to be a big canon Star Wars LARP and the sequels were the "current" era and they probably felt that gave them the most freedom since it was currently being written
>Founded October 16, 1923; 99 years ago
yeah, they're done
either they turn a new leaf and reinvent themselves for the next 100 years or they perish
bob iger has decided he'll go down with the ship
It's honestly quite spectacular how much can be achieved even with low budgets these days, seeing what Anno and Higuchi have pulled off with the Shin series.
George Lucas is Tzeentch, coin-firmed: >sell your IP for millions >your former fren destroys your IP >rebuy your IP for few cents >gain again millions by rebuilding and reexpanding your IP
It's over Disney, Lucas has the High Machiavellian Ground.
Please, please, PLEASE if you buy the rights to Star Wars get rid of TCW and anything Ahsoka related.
Or at the very least kill her off and tell Filoni to pound sand.
First, TCW was never EU. It was Lucas's world, which was separate from the licensing world, and he had said it from the start.
Second, why does it matter anyway? The EU has been discontinued and decanonized for over a decade now. There is no official EU continuity except for the one you make in your head. If you want to talk about EU clone wars, go to some shitty subreddit that wanks EU exclusively, or something.
Nah, he's a part of the problem. There was some cool TCW stuff like the Geonosis zombie arc or most of the Dathomir content but overall his contributions have been lacking.
Why would Disney *ever* sell Star Wars?
Most of their content has been commercial and critical success. You sexless incel chuds are unironically insane. This larp is not even funny.
>Most of their content has been commercial and critical success. You sexless incel chuds are unironically insane.
That’s a lie. Both Solo and Rise of Skywalker were flops. RoS was a critical flop. Disney hasn’t had a profitable Star Wars movie since 2017. That’s 6 YEARS AGO. Meanwhile, Marvel puts out 6 movies a year and most of the them do quite well….
Merch sales have completely collapsed. And ratings for Andor and Mando S3 were huge disappointments. Willow flopped so hard, they cancelled it and then pulled it off the streamer. Galactic Starcruiser is the most expensive flop in theme park history. Indiana Jones is looking like a massive critical and commercial flop.
I’m married. Getting laid is easy, and if anyone finds it difficult, fricking work out and if you can’t be bothered to that - maybe it’s good that your genes won’t carry on.
People still watch and talk about Mandalorian. Months after it ended. Yeah, Disney is totally tanking guys. They are desperate and gonna sell any minute now!
If Anon isnt larping please let anyone make star wars games so that we can get a vast variety of games using the IP and there's a good chance that a chunk of them will be good.
ah yea a great example is the star wars cartoon anthology series where they gave japanese studios a chance to make star wars shorts and a lot of them were very creative and incredible to look at. Even giving Japanese devs a chance to put their spin on the star wars IP would be insane in terms of generating good will and quality games from it.
>Even giving Japanese devs a chance to put their spin on the star wars IP would be insane in terms of generating good will and quality games from it.
it's also much likely to be better
look what bandai made
also their new star destroyer model kits have incredible detail but I refuse to get one because disney will get some money, and I have no space
Giving Star Wars to Japan wholesale would frankly be better. Many of their Visions episodes created the basis of a legitimately interesting Star Wars setting, even though they were made independently and didn't share a connection. For example The Duel, The Ninth Jedi, The Elder, Lop and Ocho, and Akakiri all roughly follow plots where Jedi and Sith are basically hunting each other across the galaxy, which has been divided up into post-war fiefdoms.
In terms of Visions maybe half were too much "Japon" and the other half was either pitch-perfect Star Wars or close enough. >pipeline of degeneracy
I've seen what those b***hes do with their lekku, it's too late.
I’ve always thought that all the best EU Novels should be adapted into Anime movies for streaming. The amount of merch that Lucasfilm would sell around around EU Anime, EU Manga, new EU toys would be massive.
Lucasfilm has dozens and dozens of novels from the 1990s-2014 that would make great anime.
What makes people assume they'll sell off Lucasfilm? If they need money, they'll probably sell off smaller Fox owned properties like Aliens or Die Hard or Night at the Museum.
The obvious one is that Kennedy ran Lucasfilm into the ground (even though Iger is also partly to blame for this) to the point where there is little if no interest in new Disney Star Wars stuff
Then there are other things like the Acolyte lawsuit (actual legal documents also showed that Kennedy allowed Leslye Headland to suddenly announce the Acolyte at a time when Disney was going to blacklist anyone who pitches a show, which pissed off so many people at Disney, including those in charge)
Nobody believes that any of the movies Kennedy announced at Celebration will actually be made much less released. Then of the productions that were made or will be released the ones she's heavily involved in went over budget due to reshoots
Meanwhile Disney is having serious problems on multiple fronts >Florida and Reedy Creek situation >lawsuit from investors >payout to Comcast for Hulu >underperforming or flopping films across the board
Selling off Lucasfilm would mean getting back money that Disney needs (even if it's gonna be less than what they paid Lucas) and also actually get rid of Kennedy who's caused PR and financial headaches for Disney either through her actions or indirectly
Dont forget Disney only has 200 million cash on hand and every revenue stream has utterly crashed. They have to get at least 20-30 billion to finish the Hulu buyout from comcast by 2024 because they have a contract that they have to fulfil otherwise they're gonna face strict and harsh penalties.
>On March 20, 2019, Disney acquired 21st Century Fox, giving it a 60% majority stake in Hulu.[23] On April 15, 2019, WarnerMedia sold its 10% stake in Hulu back to the company for $1.43 billion,[38] leaving Disney with 67% and Comcast with 33%. Comcast, the only other shareholder, announced on May 14, 2019, that it had agreed to cede its control to Disney, and reached an agreement for Disney to purchase its 33% stake in the company as early as 2024.[39]
It was necessary to keep the Marvel brand alive, their one cash cow, they can make most of the money back by selling everything Fox owns except the Marvel stuff and maybe The Simpsons. Honestly, Disney is incredibly moronic, The Simpsons could also be a big cash cow for them. They should unironically reboot it, the show is so shit now nobody would care.
Fox fricked up on Fantastic Four so bad that they could've just bought the rights back for that, and that would give them time to wait out X-Men stuff, because they were increasingly fricking that up too.
I mean what good is much of the Fox stuff to Disney? Maybe Simpsons, maybe Predator since Prey still got attention, but it wasn't like they put Fox's entire library up on Disney+
>On March 20, 2019, Disney acquired 21st Century Fox, giving it a 60% majority stake in Hulu.[23] On April 15, 2019, WarnerMedia sold its 10% stake in Hulu back to the company for $1.43 billion,[38] leaving Disney with 67% and Comcast with 33%. Comcast, the only other shareholder, announced on May 14, 2019, that it had agreed to cede its control to Disney, and reached an agreement for Disney to purchase its 33% stake in the company as early as 2024.[39]
>The Walt Disney Company Signs Amended Acquisition Agreement To Acquire Twenty-First Century Fox, Inc., For $71.3 Billion In Cash And Stock >The overall mix of consideration paid to 21st Century Fox shareholders will be approximately 50% cash and 50% stock.
I can't believe how that happened
COVID just fricked all their major areas up >filming movie/TV shows >movie theaters >cruises >parks >ESPN
Then studios got into streaming because they didn't understand the costs and issues with being their own streamer and that cut revenue that they'd normally get from third-party streamers
Then Iger hired people who got the company involved with a slapfight with Desantis and now control of Reedy Creek is in danger
I don't understand why you would buy this. The Chinese are really into owning as much of America as humanly possible, but other than that possible motivation, I just don't get it. One reason, I'm certain, why Disney has created so many uniquely awful retreads of Lucasfilms's properties is to claim ownership. Star Wars? They've got their fingerprints all over that. Willow? Same. Indiana Jones? Same. That leaves you with Labyrinth and Howard the Duck. It's like buying a crown after all of the gems have been pried out. Unless you're sitting on some AMAZING new and original property that you want to launch from the name Lucasfilms I don't see any purpose behind purchasing it. Star Wars needs to be locked in a vault for at least 20 years before any new content should be created, and I'm sure in the meantime you'd have Disney crapping all over the name, because they're NOT going to turn loose of the content they created while owning Lucasfilms. It just seems like a completely terrible idea.
Why are there still smoothbrains to this day insisting that Disney will never sell off anything that it acquired? Even Doomwiener's insistence that Kennedy will get fired any day now is more believable than that.
The only things I actually want continued from the EU are the KotOR comics, BF3 and KotOR 3, but it'll take a miracle for them to remain untouched by modern commentary.
No questions, just make Star Wars for boys again. That is all you need to make it even moderately successful. The last decade of films and shows have either been "for the whole family" (aka for nobody) or for girls, and look where it's brought us.
Why would Elon buy Star Wars? He likes Disney Star Wars.
and
Why would Disney *ever* sell Star Wars?
Most of their content has been commercial and critical success. You sexless incel chuds are unironically insane. This larp is not even funny.
Star Wars is dead regardless of what you do. The current aesthetics and sensibilities of entertainment are something that doesn't result in a lot of fun, modern actors are the antithesis of charisma. The appeal of the OT was in the cast waving laser swords (all dead or old) and in John Williams creating the music (he won't be doing that again). I don't see how you're going to make Star Wars good again, it's literally a different time now.
Hello, OP. Consider me a potential supporter if this isn't a LARP. However, I must ask how shall you handle potential backlash from current "fans" of Disney's Star Wars brand amidst your buying it? Is the noise of Disney's small but vocal demographic enough to cause other important influential parties (distributors/merchandisers) to back out of your plans?
If they actually bought the Sequel Trilogy merchandise in significant numbers, maybe that would've affected things, but they didn't and it's clear that particular fanbase is not as strong enough to affect things
This is a legitimate concern I'd have too. Star Trek Discovery was the exact opposite of what you're saying where the woke stuff was being pushed, but companies like hasbro didn't want to make any merch of it since they knew people wouldn't like it.
Filoni lurks here? I'm not a Star Wars fan, but I'd love to talk to Dave Filoni about what it was like meeting the people who worked on Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla. He seems like a nice, cool guy.
It's one autist who deliberately derails the thread whenever someone says something bad about Filoni or TCW. He likes Disneyshit and is more than likely a paid shill.
Is your last name Lucas? If not, frick off.
why waste your money?
This.
Disney raped this franchise for everything it had.
How could any duture installments in the star wars series actually save it?
Of course redditors will always eat up their goyslop but as an actual thinking human being this series is dead to me.
They beat the dead horse to a bloody pulp.
>How could any duture installments in the star wars series actually save it?
Pull the Alien movie, just decanonize anything that happened after the sale. Then start with mid-budget productions (regaining trust) geared toward boys. Make bounty hunter stuff (Mandalorian but good), make some teenaged Jedi Padawan stuff (something like Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon) and also make the Empire cool (Star Wars: Legacy did a great job there).
>decanonize
Again?
Not him but yes, Disney canon is awful.
What else? How would you salvage it? You could do another timeskip or go back to Old Republic but it would still be tainted.
>How would you salvage it?
End the franchise for good and tell redditors to kill themselves Ronnie McNutt style.
There need to be stories for boys growing up and the whole "retvrn to tradition" LARP (as in returning to purely classical literature) doesn't really work out, I think. You need to create new media but also kinda work with what's there right now. So, better Star Wars stories are a way to go.
*Alien move
>Then start with mid-budget productions (regaining trust) geared toward boys
The issue here is that this was originally Disney's plan. They DID actually want to gear their productions initially to boys, including the sequels.
The problem is that the creatives are all completely untrustworthy. You can't rely on them to make things that people want, because they're delusional about what people need.
Shouldn't have hired all those poison pills that are Abrams, Kasdan and Johnson then. The only good hire in the main departments was Terrio, too little, too late.
>They DID actually want to gear their productions initially to boys, including the sequels.
What about the sequels marketed to boys? I cannot think of anything. All the major story decisions were nothing boys give a shit about. Which boy cares about Rey? About Finn getting kissed by an ugly chink? About Poe's actor being told he's a dumbass male by the pink hair lady? There is nearly zero male energy in those movies.
>The problem is that the creatives are all completely untrustworthy
Thoughts on Benson & Moorhead or Guy Ritchie?
Maybe give Duncan Jones another shot.
Do a really mid-budget one and get S. Craig Zahler to write the screenplay.
Get a project done with the Jim Henson company.
Get David Leitch or Chad Stahelsky or Sam Hargrave to do some bounty hunter stuff.
Maybe offer Tarsem Singh some work.
Also, bring Terrio back as a writer if he's willing.
How about Gareth Evans (not Edwards)?
David Twohy?
James Wan?
What's Gore Verbinski up to these days?
Vore.
No.
Doesn't Disney own lucasfilm? So wouldn't you have to buy Disney? Are you buying Disney? Why would you buy Disney?
-- Jerry "Bingo" Jetson, the Daily Crooner
Considering the damage done to the brand by kk, I certainly hope you're not expecting to pay the former purchase price of $4.05B. It ain't worth it, bro. It's used goods.
Can't go into details on prospective prices but it's nowhere close to 4.05B. They know the reputation is tarnished and that they can't get the original amount back.
It doesn't really affect me.
Someone else is probably going to end up buying disney in the near future, I wouldn't know for certain, but strong speculation that it's going to be Apple.
>Can't go into details on prospective prices but it's nowhere close to 4.05B. They know the reputation is tarnished and that they can't get the original amount back.
You’re buying it for 2.5B, I know this because I know what’s going on 😉
Star Wars is worth about 500 million right now and that's being generous. Maybe Disney will be able to sweet talk the buyer into $1b but that's about it. This exact same shit happened like 20 years ago when Disney bought Power Rangers. They paid like $5 billion for it and Hiam Saban bought it back for only $60 million. Star Wars might actually be worth less than half a billion because of how much brand damage Disney has done to it.
Are you even considering merchandise sales?
Like I said, Power Rangers. Power Rangers was at one time a bigger IP than Star Wars, which I know is hard for some people to understand, but it was a big deal, especially in terms of merchandising. If you frick up an IP badly enough and only have adult collectors holding it up, it's no longer a cash cow. Star Wars used to have its own aisle in the toy store, and it was all Kenner / Hasbro. Now it only has a tiny section in the toy aisle and it's from like 10 different manufacturers because Disney has had to practically give away the license for it to be profitable for the manufacturers.
Lucasfilm shills were arguing merchandise sales don't matter.
Are you? Nobody's buying it, it's not relevant.
Elon stop
Kek. I bet it is.
Do it, buddy.
Don't listen to the queefs. Give Jon Favreau a shot at his own trilogy. Let him do what he wants without interference.
He's the only guy I've seen get close to the strangeness and mad energy of the original SW.
His instincts extended to hiring Werner Herzog who was the person who pushed them to use the baby yoda stand-in puppet on screen rather than shitty cgi. Which was a runaway hit. The ONLY merch hit of recent SW product.
Let Star Wars be a bit crazy again. Not nonsensical and insulting "crazy". Wild and fun "crazy".
Also, buy The Dark Crystal/Henson if you can.
And get season two of TDC: Age of Resistance TV show rolling with the same team as S1.
make sure to change it to homosexualFilm after your purchase Black person
lel obpitt
Elon, don’t waste your time. It’s dead. But I Implore you to take your millions and instead create a brand new original epic space fantasy. Why would you want a production company full of dead ip’s?
The IP's are long from dead. I believe in their current state there's no potential. That can be changed. Not Elon btw.
Jeff? What the frick did go wrong with rop man I thought you loved the lord of the rings
>Not Elon btw.
Elon confirmed
Elon buying Star Wars sounds moronic anyway.
People said the same about twitter. It's a done deal. Get ready for Elon Wars.
>b-but
Search your feelings and you'll know it to be true.
Elon buying Twitter was and still is moronic. That said Elon actually is moronic enough to buy Star Wars.
Good, good. At last you're accepting the inevitability of the Elon Wars.
>Elon buying Star Wars
I thought poor star wars death could not be more tragic but now I have to watch the corpse dug up and fricking by an obnoxious south African spoiled brat coke head fraud. Make it stop for frick sake. Make it stop.
The only way to really, truly, and completely fix Star Wars is to restore Luke Skywalker, his character, and his Jedi Order to prominence. Build around Luke now while MILLIONS of fans are still desperate to give you money for Luke content.
And then, use this newly empowered Luke Skywalker and his New Jedi Order to build out the next generation and have him properly pass the torch to his heirs/ students, etc.
As long as fans believe that the next generation really represents Luke and carries on his Jedi Order and his legacy, I think this franchise can still be saved. (Rey is a failed character).
Also, make Star Wars epic, and thrilling, and weird again. Right now, it is insanely dull. Build out the lore and mythology. Get Sebastian Stan too.
Too late, carrie fisher is dead and Han solo is teen stabbed plus harrison ford is full geriatric now. Its over.
There will be an emphasis put on Luke.
Disney would want to sell all rights and therein.
The only exception that I can reveal are the theme parks, which we could care less about. My lawyer says its best that they get to keep the parks without re-branding which would be easier for them and "Sweeten" the deal.
that seems like a sensible idea, also star tours was set up in disneyland for a long time before they bought the franchise
>brand new original epic space fantasy
this is actually much harder than you think
there's many imitations and none really have the appeal of starwars
anon is right
bioware was great when they made KOTOR, but then when they made their own sci fi IP mass effect with similar gameplay and writing, it just felt wrong and it will never ever be as appealing as SW
Without Lucas or Hamill I don´t care who owns the thing
Hamill is a massive cuck, who cares if he is associated with Star Wars anymore
Yeah he may be a cuck but he is Luke unfortunately
also needs john williams
without his music, it's just not the same
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise?
Low energy larp
must be a bargain right now compared to its potential value
good luck anon
if you do, reassemble lucasarts and get starwars 1313 back in production
also 3d bluray or digital releases of the prequel and sequel trilogy would be nice, though ai seems to be really good at converting stuff on the fly
let george make his midichlorian story
>sequel trilogy
I meant original trilogy
the disney sequel trilogy needs to be decanonised and forgotten, get lucas to write a treatment for the true sequel trilogy and then get a good director to make it faithfully with AI or whatever
and restore the expanded universe
Sequel trilogy will be rendered null and void. It was a bad direction. We have a clear direction of where we want to take it, nothing concrete though. There will be a focus on profitability and my execs are focused on the money aspect, which in turn should cater to fan demand.
See above.
You underestimate the position Disney is in. They've gone on for a long time thinking they had infinite cash flow and their properties have influenced society. Society is not functioning in the way they'd expect.
Sounds good. There are literally tens of billions of dollars out there waiting to be spent on Star Wars but Disney seems to have idea how to get it, and Kathleen Kennedy is too controversial as a figurehead.
*have NO idea how to get it
>and restore the expanded universe
Do not do this. It doesn't matter who owns the company, all the writers and creatives in charge of actually making anything are pozzed to shit, you can even see hints of it creeping that way at the end of the EU. Bringing it back would just mean tons of characters get their race or sexuality retconned and the entire thing is slowly ruined by modernisms.
As an EU gay I concur. Traviss already put an homosexual mandalorian couple before she was booted out. And many of old EU writers are senile or dead. The best they can do with EU materials would be making animated adaptations out of the novels, and making more video games set in old EU
The only things I actually want continued from the EU are the KotOR comics, BF3 and KotOR 3, but it'll take a miracle for them to remain untouched by modern commentary.
>As an EU gay I concur
Yeah, just recanonize it discrimately. Take the good and leave the bad.
actually yeah you're right
frick the EU
all we needs are the 6 films
no lucas, no canon
Well, what are you going to do with it?
Adult themed Twi'lek prostitutes when?
Real immersive type shit.
I don't think The Mouse is going to let that property go, Op. It's not done bleeding it dry.
What does semen taste like?
Disney isn't going to sell Lucasfilm for anything less than 50 Billion. Best case scenario for you is that they hear your pitch and offer at most 30% of the shares.
Make a fuss about their Galactic cruiser and you could shave a few hundred millions off of their asking price.
We’re the noodles good?
what will you do with general course of Star Wars?
time period?
focus on movies or tv shows?
Would you be able to do the expanded universe sequels from timothy zang or would you like to mix and match the ideas of george lucas original treatment for the sequels
and if you are not larping
please make canon the expanded universe and make movies out of it
we need mara Jade, i want luke to be happy again man
>i want luke to be happy again man
luke's not even real, also it's impossible to make every fan happy
all I want is lucas' vision to be respected, I wanna see what he was getting at with midichlorians, even if it pisses everyone off
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qggzDuyLm1A
He's explained the Whills before, the problem is that he's an idiot and fails to understand that the concept of the Whills makes Star Wars into an absurd dystopia.
NO, YOU WON'T GET MARA JADE
you will get the whills
We want to take Lucas' vision into account. All I can really say is that after Disney, he's more heavily involved in the process.
There will be an emphasis on Luke. There are talks about live action appearances but more than likely there will definitely be animated ones.
The "Clone Wars" style of animation is popular in the target market group and that will be a reoccurring theme that is kept moving forwards.
lucas was preparing to do a live action tv series set after rotj after he finished episode iii, but then he went with clone wars first and then this got canned by disney
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Underworld
>"It sits on the shelf. We have 50 hours. We are trying to figure out a different way of making movies. We are looking for a different technology that we can use, that will make it economically feasible to shoot the show. Right now, it looks like the Star Wars features. But we have to figure out how to make it at about a tenth of the cost of the features, because its television. We are working toward that, and we continue to work towards that. We will get there at some point. It's just a very difficult process. Obviously, when we do figure this problem out, it will dramatically effect features, because feature films are costing between $250 to $350 million. When we figure this out, they will be able to make a feature film for $50 million."
―George Lucas[src]
finishing his vision can really set it apart from the disney shows and be a return to form
and I think mandalorian proves that ILM is more than ready to handle tv shows with high end vfx
>set after rotj
oh I was wrong, it's set between ep3 and 4
We're aware of this.
We want to absorb the showrunners/producers/talent/ etc from these shows, it's a matter of ensuring it doesn't breach any contract these individuals/entities might have.
Mandalorian is an asset we want to keep but it will be difficult trying to walk back after Book of Boba Fett and Season 3.
Ultimately though it's been decided that after the conclusion of the Bad Batch, there will be less of a focus on the Prequel era. Whereas it's a popular era among target markets, we feel as if it's milked too much, (Disney has been milking the prequel era to make up for lackluster sequels) then over all consumers will be tired of it.
We want to develop and expand on new sequels that will make up for Disney's shortcomings
>less of a focus on the Prequel era
new podracer game plz
new rogue squadron game plz
and lightsaber vr game, it's insane that disney hasn't gotten one done
There's really no set plan on what's being released or what projects we would do.
The most important thing is rectifying what Disney has done. Which there is still a vague idea.
Lucasfilm needs to build it's repour with consumers again before we can hope to start up new projects like video games.
this is still more interesting than anything disney made and tied into the cancelled tv series
you gotta do both if you revive underworld
>build it's repour with consumers again before we can hope to start up new projects like video games.
when you do, pick up where lucasarts left off, gamers have been starving
EA can let DICE do battlefront 3, but force them no microtransactions and to include an option to turn off female voices, it just pulls you out of the experience, it ruined a perfectly good game
>battlefront 3
oh wow, looks like the reason EA isn't doing BF3 is because disney is greedy even though they made 2 great looking starwars games
>Journalist Tom Henderson, who has a strong track record with EA reporting, also claimed in November that plans for a third Battlefront game from DICE were rejected by EA due to the costs of using the Star Wars license.
Tom Henderson, who has a strong track record with EA reporting, also claimed in November that plans for a third Battlefront game from DICE were rejected by EA due to the costs of using the Star Wars license.
Fun fact EA also dropped the FIFA football game franchise which was one of the longest running and most profitable franchises in video game history. Same reason , cost.
https://www.ign.com/articles/ea-sports-fc-fifa-split-reasons
Video game industry is on the verge of a cyclical crash where it is pushed off a cliff by first world recession in Europe and a cost of living crisis. EA are just being smart.
turns out they need to sell 20% more battlefront copies than battlefield to make a profit
if disney just let them use the license for cheaper, then they would still have benefited
>EA are just being smart
I fault disney for not allowing BF3 to go ahead
I fault EA for making DICE put microtransactions in BF2 which tarnished its release
dunno who is to blame for female stormtroopers
BF3 could have finally nailed the formula
Same thing happened with Atari and ET. Franchises are just game window dressing in the end of the day, if you have a super fast physics engine that produces a wonderful visual and auditory experience slapping the star wars name on it or fifa really is not worth a billion dollars (this is what FIFA wanted every four years for the FIFA name on EA boxes). Atari paid 21 million for the rights to ET right at the peak of a cyclical game industry with no fricking game. EA are being smart because winter is coming in games world and you don't want to be stuck with a billion dollars of fifa boxes and more on the star wars name when discretionary spending falls off a cliff.
I'd say the mid 10's should have called a crash as we saw the closure of numerous studios at the time.
>Mandalorian is an asset we want to keep
Yikes.
star wars is dead. Its actually painful to even see the words star wars at this stage especially after carrie fishers death and digitisation soul rape by corporation, no longer a sparky princess now an ageing career divorcee in the middle of an spew of insulting and worthless films that depicted a generations childhood fantasy heroes as being murdered by their children and drinking green milk on a rock. I'm one of the ones that never saw the last one and will never under any circumstance watch anything star wars related ever again, even for free. Even if George Lucas carved it from moon rock while building an actual death star.
ep7 was so bad I still haven't seen rogue one, solo, episode 8 or 9
I just ignore them as high budget fan fiction
deepfakes can fix everything
Elon, save Luke pls
>Elon, save Luke pls
This.
This is the only way to fix Star Wars.
Ahsoka in a hood is always cringe.
If Disney was even halfway competent, they would have done an animated series set in the Galactic Civil War which follows all the main characters after ANH, and Ahsoka would have just come in after ESB to be Luke's master (since he never went back to Dagobah until RotJ), and then Luke watches her be killed by Vader at some point.
Luke in a hood looks cool as sh*t.
His best look is the one from Dark Empire though.
>dude darth vader pants
Yes.
luke was always a nerd
han is the cool one
>Anakin is the cool one
ftfy
Anakin is a sperg
What you say does sound better than whatever Rebels was. Filling up the niches while tidying up the loose ends
To further elaborate we have intentions of completely re-doing Episode 7. If the purchase goes through this will not be announced, only that there will be another Star Wars movie. Consumers won't know it's "Episode 7" until the title crawl.
This plan would be years out though. Needs to be an emphasis on communicating that there will be a course correction and discard through smaller mediums. Only then can the franchise move forwards.
Unlike popular notion Legends Luke was not really all-powerful and happy. He had to endure even more suffering than the Disney couterpart, only difference is that Legends Luke managed to live through it without going bonkers
The way they treated him was just humiliating and entirely deserving of the negative reactions.
When was the last time you washed your ass?
Stop larping, you fricking homosexuals.
Will you make ewoks sexier?
If you are not George Lucas don't. If you are Chinese I will actually physically destroy anything I see with the words star wars or indiana jones on it
r u literally me bruh
I wonder if you could negotiate to just buy the old shit, let them keep Disneywars
Have you ever seen thunderfoot's videos about you? They'll give you a laugh.
The IP is permanently tarnished. Not sure why you'd pursue it unless you are viewing it more as a stepping-stone.
This is correct. Give me the money and I’ll create a unique space fantasy series. There will be zero identity politics. There will be no feminism. Men will act like men and women will act like women. There will be no homosexuality. The characters dialogue will not sound like it was written by high schoolers. Best of all, I will see to it that the IP can never lawfully introduce these elements in the future, nor can any adaptation of it.
This isn't me, but it' a good start.
But do you really
>There will be no feminism
so princess leia won't be in?
no stronk females like queen amidala storming the naboo palace?
Star Wars Battlefront II (2005)
*sips*
now THERE was a Star Wars Battlefront worth playing
Prequels were kino. The kinoest in fact.
Got an epic story, basically one of a kind (as far as the medium goes).
Whatever their supposed flaws were, the Prequels enhanced the Saga, the lore, and the world building while the Sequels burned it all down.
Gorgeous actors.
Great costumes.
Beautiful visuals.
Kathleen Kennedy is getting fired any day now bros...
Doomwiener is only half right about things, I've seen his videos.
Disney won't fire Kennedy. that will be on us if the purchase goes through. That's the first order of business. Disney won't fire her because it would look bad political wise and confirm to consumers that the consumer was right all along.
I have a president lined up, will not say who for confidentiality.
Why haven’t they ruined knights of the old republic yet
It's the only thing they haven't tarnished is my guess.
I'm only the prospective buyer, but if I had to guess, they haven't touched it because at this point Disney execs know that everything has been essentially soiled. They didn't want to make the risk of ruining that brand as well.
TORtanic did a fine enough job of that already
TORtanic will sink any moment homosexual
EA paypig spotted
Her and every one of her nepotism girl hires need to be shot out of a cannon. Her sheer incompetence and ego has been fascinating to watch.
And of course some of the best film music ever composed.
>You all might be surprised, but we have sold over 33 million copies of Star Wars Battlefront I and Battlefront II combined. That’s a huge tale for our business going forward. – Blake Jorgensen – Chief Financial Officer and Chief Operating Officer
disney is dumb for not letting them do BF3 without gouging them for license fees, it would have done more to excite fans about SW than any of their films
Is it feasible to return sexuality to the series? Or is that untenable in a politically correct marketplace no matter the owner?
They should just keep it heterosexual and wholesome, nothing too sexy, just beautiful.
Homosexuality was an element in the Lucas helmed clone wars series when looking at Ahsoka and Baris
I don't really think so. Anyway, it shouldn't be in there.
Hopefully we'll be able to see Ahsoka in a slave girl outfit again if this isn't a larp
Identity politics have to be avoided at all costs. Star Wars is a franchise that I believe anyone can relate to. I, and the people that I'm working with hold the belief that it can regain that status. You can still have diversity and inclusion while still making a good story. This has been at the core of Star Wars.
moron the sith were based off of nazis. Many of the aliens were based off Asians and Asian culture.
Goyslop wars has always had identity politics.
>You can still have diversity and inclusion while still making a good story.
>"diversity and inclusion"
Not if you still use that gigapozzed terminology. The way leftist religion works is by repeating the same phrases so often that even normalgays use then without realizing. "Toxic" for example. "Y'all" is another one.
Old Republic cinematics are the only non-terrible Star Wars films released under Disney.
squadrons had good cinematics
just a shame the game focused all on sequel trilogy stuff and had to shoe horn disney's ideals into some of the characters
still good though
Got reason to believe this is anything but a larp?
The main focus really needs to be that it is a series mainly for boys. Boy audience. Girls will still watch it but it needs to be made for boys.
Boys and men are the primary market we aim to target.
Disney's issue is that it's a company that is used to marketing to girls
Men should be having kids and providing for their families not watching kids cartoons and playing with toys
>trad LARP
Yeah, no shit, there still needs to be culture and people won't just automatically start picking up the old stuff. People want new things, so the responsibility is to make good new things.
Do you think men in previous generations didn’t watch TV / movies, or, before screens were invented, read pulpy valueless books?
>read pulpy valueless books?
Spotted the brain dead zoomer.
At least they actually read books.
>At least they actually read books.
Boomers are insanely illiterate. Millennials as a generation as well, what are you talking about?
Do you think all books are equally good?
Reading for the sake of reading is a good skill to have. You don't just read something because "it's good" dumbass.
I've read bad books and good books. At least I used my brain.
>Boomers are insanely illiterate
>I hate old people because the internet told me to!
>I hate old people because the internet told me to!
Dude, I do interact with them IRL. Most of them are developmentally stunted, and I don't say that in order to be mean. They are stuck at a mental age of like 14-16. Have you ever taken a look at divorce stats or how they hoard wealth? I blame the post WW2 Karl Popper kind of shit for that.
>developmentally stunted
That's because they've lived an entire lifetime and their bodies and minds don't work as good as it used to dumb frick. You'll be the same way when you get old and then some little shit kids are gonna insult you too.
>That's because they've lived an entire lifetime
They are still teenagers in their heads. There's a profound lack of wisdom in them.
Well you're only showing how moronic you actually are.
You haven't interacted with every old person on earth so you're just generalizing.
Most old people I've met were extremely wise spiritually and mentally and can spot bullshit just by looking at someone.
A lot of old people I've interacted with garnered a lot of skills because of a lifetime of hard working many many many jobs.
Interact with an old war veteran and I guarantee you'll realize you're an ignorant fool talking out of your ass.
>you're just generalizing
Of course I am.
Riddle me this:
Why is civilization collapsing (and yes, it is, just visit the doctor), why are we at sub-replacement fertility rate, why are there more sexually confused people than ever before, why is religion being abandoned at such a high rate?
Why do all these things happen and keep happening if the people with the wealth (and wisdom as you say) are such stellar specimen?
Those aren't Boomers dumbfrick.
Those are the elite wealthy ruling families that have been around for centuries.
The people you're mentioning are literally only a couple thousand people in the whole world who control everything.
>The people you're mentioning are literally only a couple thousand people in the whole world who control everything
Yeah, sure, but who keeps them in power? Who did get manipulated by their machinations? Boomers are in league with them, unknowingly for the most part, but still are.
Men with families still like movies. They still read books. They still have hobbies. Why the frick is everything a binary with brainlets?
Would people accept a complete retconning of what Disnry has made at this stage?
They would after some time, hence why I'd reduce budgets in the beginning and focus on design work and writing. A movie like Dredd (2012) cost like 30-35 million, so it can clearly work.
Shouldn't go the Andor route of making everything bland and slow of course, beautiful imagery is very important to Star Wars (and can evidently be achieved with small budgets).
Why not, all Disney has made is garbage.
This. Nothing redeemable in there. Rogue One and Andor were bland with cool moments few and far between. Force Awakens isn't even a movie, Last Jedi is unbelievably ugly (Admiral Gender Studies, fat Asian girl, most of the designs and the general feeling if totally off) and Rise of Skywalker is an overstuffed mess though the least bad in my opinion (probably because Terrio is a good writer). No one watched Basedlo and it felt like a boring pilot episode for some scrapped tv series anyway.
Ford will be dead in five years, and Fisher is gone.
You can't do it right again
yeah you can, but you need good writers
There's a treasure trove of unused footage and the original shots in front of a green screen.
I can only assume there's contract/union frickery going on that prevents that footage from being retailored but theoretically they don't actually need to shoot anything else
Couldn’t a movie theoretically be made with old Luke after Han and Leia’s deaths? With them being implied to have led happy and fulfilling lives with a few flashbacks thrown here and there showing them doing well
Kathleen Kennedy is going to be arrested
Disney will sell Star Wars
Two more weeks
Trust the plan
Who cares if it's a LARP, it's still a fun conversation.
>Lawsuit against Acolyte production
>Galactic Starfighter hotel shut down and Willow removed from Disney+ on day of Cannes premiere
>Indy 5 getting bad reviews at Cannes
>Interest in Star Wars in decline
>Disney in deep shit financially with underperformers and flops, and also having problems like the Hulu buyout
Even if Doomwiener's rumors aren't true again, it's sure mindbreaking the Disney and Lucasfilm shills on this board
Idk how Disney is going to course correct. They murdered the star wars brand, marvel looks to be heading the same way, nobody wanted or liked black little mermaid, even more people want nothing to do with Indy 5. They got big problems.
they can't be saved, it's been 100 years since they were created, everything has an expiry date
nintendo and universal are eating their lunch now on their first try
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_animated_films
why would a kid want to go to disney land when they can see mario, jurassic world, harry potter and jaws at universal
and bob iger is still doubling down on the woke stuff, even as everything collapses, even the goddam dragon at the theme park burnt down
and then there's the fight with desantis
disney is D O N E
I wonder if kids actually like Disney stuff outside of marvel for boys nowadays.
It seems like kids just dont care for Mickey and gang anymore so what other draw is there for them to like Disney?
even kids must get bored of marvel, they're all the same
mario overtook mickey back in the early 2000s
miyamoto won
>what other draw is there for them to like Disney?
maybe they'll watch fox news lmao
muppets is still ok though
>what other draw is there for them to like Disney?
they'll go watch the family friendly alien film by ridley scott
and memorable cultural landmarks like avatar 2, kids love to dress up as blue cats
I went to Disneyland last year and it blew me away how they put so much into star wars land yet it's only the sequel shit. How fricking dumb are they to build a star wars land and have zero mention of the prequels or OT you can't even merch from prequels or OT just think of how much money they're leaving on the table because??? Like I don't understand that move at all.
On paper, I get it. They wanted Galaxy's Edge to be a big canon Star Wars LARP and the sequels were the "current" era and they probably felt that gave them the most freedom since it was currently being written
Cause Force Awakens was a success at the time and Kennedy convinced them to go with the Sequel Trilogy theme instead, during the planning stages
How absolutely moronic, how does this incompetent b***h still have a job.
The US is (publically) run by an old senile corrupt man whose son accuses him of pedophilia and smokes crack while fricking prostitutes.
Probably clauses in contract
ie "Star Wars movies need to make at least a billion", which they did, but they underperformed movie-to-movie
Every Star Wars movie makes a billion. A New Hope made $4 billion. But Kathy killed it. The Rey movie won’t even pull $400 million worldwide.
>Founded October 16, 1923; 99 years ago
yeah, they're done
either they turn a new leaf and reinvent themselves for the next 100 years or they perish
bob iger has decided he'll go down with the ship
This boomers channel is more entertaining than anything Disney has or will ever produce
It's honestly quite spectacular how much can be achieved even with low budgets these days, seeing what Anno and Higuchi have pulled off with the Shin series.
George Lucas is Tzeentch, coin-firmed:
>sell your IP for millions
>your former fren destroys your IP
>rebuy your IP for few cents
>gain again millions by rebuilding and reexpanding your IP
It's over Disney, Lucas has the High Machiavellian Ground.
One thing live action Star Wars should generally improve on is lightsaber duels. It can learn a lot from Tartakovsky's Clone Wars.
The duels in Episode I and III were great but II was lacking.
Please, please, PLEASE if you buy the rights to Star Wars get rid of TCW and anything Ahsoka related.
Or at the very least kill her off and tell Filoni to pound sand.
lucas actually likes asoka, he even suggested her outfit
This, holy frick. The only people that actually like her at this point are the feminists ruining the brand.
Or remove it from being partial EU status so we can talk about the old clone wars without zoomers trying to butt into lore conversations.
Don't do me dirty like that, I love Tartakovsky's Clone Wars and I am a zoomer.
First, TCW was never EU. It was Lucas's world, which was separate from the licensing world, and he had said it from the start.
Second, why does it matter anyway? The EU has been discontinued and decanonized for over a decade now. There is no official EU continuity except for the one you make in your head. If you want to talk about EU clone wars, go to some shitty subreddit that wanks EU exclusively, or something.
>ERM AKCHYUALLY-
Shut up, b***h.
canontards btfo
Fricking wrecked
B A S E D
>TCW fans whenever actual Star Wars fans try to enjoy real Star Wars
>eu shit
>real star wars
Glad you agree.
>he doesn't know how greentext works
>he doesn't know what real Star Wars is
Not EU fanfiction, that's for sure.
Good thing it isn't then.
Meanwhile, what TCWgays support:
>Good thing it isn't then.
Glad we came to an agreement.
Might as well get a room
Okay fine. TCW sucks, Filoni is a hack and I can't shill for him anymore. I've been doing this for free for YEARS and I can't do it anymore.
You win.
I mean, we already knew this, but no hard feelings, you can always come party with the EU chads. We got the good shit.
based EUbros extending a peace offering to their enemies
Just like Luke
Shameless, embarrassing samegayging.
Come home, white man.
No, thanks.
>Oh no it's unused cover with a bad art how will we ever recover
kino
Ahh! Run for your life! It's New Jersey!
That's it, man.
>tranime
Filoni is the only good part of star wars. If you can him you deserve eternal suffering
Nah, he's a part of the problem. There was some cool TCW stuff like the Geonosis zombie arc or most of the Dathomir content but overall his contributions have been lacking.
Why would Disney *ever* sell Star Wars?
Most of their content has been commercial and critical success. You sexless incel chuds are unironically insane. This larp is not even funny.
>chuds
Look, the undesirable coper has arrived. Girls don't want you, they want me. Cope harder.
>Most of their content has been commercial and critical success. You sexless incel chuds are unironically insane.
That’s a lie. Both Solo and Rise of Skywalker were flops. RoS was a critical flop. Disney hasn’t had a profitable Star Wars movie since 2017. That’s 6 YEARS AGO. Meanwhile, Marvel puts out 6 movies a year and most of the them do quite well….
Merch sales have completely collapsed. And ratings for Andor and Mando S3 were huge disappointments. Willow flopped so hard, they cancelled it and then pulled it off the streamer. Galactic Starcruiser is the most expensive flop in theme park history. Indiana Jones is looking like a massive critical and commercial flop.
I’m married. Getting laid is easy, and if anyone finds it difficult, fricking work out and if you can’t be bothered to that - maybe it’s good that your genes won’t carry on.
People still watch and talk about Mandalorian. Months after it ended. Yeah, Disney is totally tanking guys. They are desperate and gonna sell any minute now!
That's some desperate cope
If Anon isnt larping please let anyone make star wars games so that we can get a vast variety of games using the IP and there's a good chance that a chunk of them will be good.
I'd love to see one by Platinum Games.
ah yea a great example is the star wars cartoon anthology series where they gave japanese studios a chance to make star wars shorts and a lot of them were very creative and incredible to look at. Even giving Japanese devs a chance to put their spin on the star wars IP would be insane in terms of generating good will and quality games from it.
>Even giving Japanese devs a chance to put their spin on the star wars IP would be insane in terms of generating good will and quality games from it.
it's also much likely to be better
look what bandai made
also their new star destroyer model kits have incredible detail but I refuse to get one because disney will get some money, and I have no space
Giving Star Wars to Japan wholesale would frankly be better. Many of their Visions episodes created the basis of a legitimately interesting Star Wars setting, even though they were made independently and didn't share a connection. For example The Duel, The Ninth Jedi, The Elder, Lop and Ocho, and Akakiri all roughly follow plots where Jedi and Sith are basically hunting each other across the galaxy, which has been divided up into post-war fiefdoms.
no
please for the love of good keep star wars away from moe/otaku shit and the weeb pipeline of degeneracy
In terms of Visions maybe half were too much "Japon" and the other half was either pitch-perfect Star Wars or close enough.
>pipeline of degeneracy
I've seen what those b***hes do with their lekku, it's too late.
I’ve always thought that all the best EU Novels should be adapted into Anime movies for streaming. The amount of merch that Lucasfilm would sell around around EU Anime, EU Manga, new EU toys would be massive.
Lucasfilm has dozens and dozens of novels from the 1990s-2014 that would make great anime.
They were planning to make an animated show based on Young Jedi Knights in the 90s but it was scrapped for some reason
Remember the canned Prey 2 (by Human Head Studios)?
Now imagine that as a Star Wars game.
Not dissimilar to Bounty Hunter or the canned Ragtag and 1313. Lots of potential.
What makes people assume they'll sell off Lucasfilm? If they need money, they'll probably sell off smaller Fox owned properties like Aliens or Die Hard or Night at the Museum.
The obvious one is that Kennedy ran Lucasfilm into the ground (even though Iger is also partly to blame for this) to the point where there is little if no interest in new Disney Star Wars stuff
Then there are other things like the Acolyte lawsuit (actual legal documents also showed that Kennedy allowed Leslye Headland to suddenly announce the Acolyte at a time when Disney was going to blacklist anyone who pitches a show, which pissed off so many people at Disney, including those in charge)
Nobody believes that any of the movies Kennedy announced at Celebration will actually be made much less released. Then of the productions that were made or will be released the ones she's heavily involved in went over budget due to reshoots
Meanwhile Disney is having serious problems on multiple fronts
>Florida and Reedy Creek situation
>lawsuit from investors
>payout to Comcast for Hulu
>underperforming or flopping films across the board
Selling off Lucasfilm would mean getting back money that Disney needs (even if it's gonna be less than what they paid Lucas) and also actually get rid of Kennedy who's caused PR and financial headaches for Disney either through her actions or indirectly
Dont forget Disney only has 200 million cash on hand and every revenue stream has utterly crashed. They have to get at least 20-30 billion to finish the Hulu buyout from comcast by 2024 because they have a contract that they have to fulfil otherwise they're gonna face strict and harsh penalties.
>On March 20, 2019, Disney acquired 21st Century Fox, giving it a 60% majority stake in Hulu.[23] On April 15, 2019, WarnerMedia sold its 10% stake in Hulu back to the company for $1.43 billion,[38] leaving Disney with 67% and Comcast with 33%. Comcast, the only other shareholder, announced on May 14, 2019, that it had agreed to cede its control to Disney, and reached an agreement for Disney to purchase its 33% stake in the company as early as 2024.[39]
You ever get the feeling Iger regrets buying Fox?
It was necessary to keep the Marvel brand alive, their one cash cow, they can make most of the money back by selling everything Fox owns except the Marvel stuff and maybe The Simpsons. Honestly, Disney is incredibly moronic, The Simpsons could also be a big cash cow for them. They should unironically reboot it, the show is so shit now nobody would care.
>The Simpsons could also be a big cash cow for them
doubt it, it's trash
and zoomers dont even care about simpsons
>They should unironically reboot it,
could work, but wont because they'd need good writers, which they cant find for any of their other stuff
Fox fricked up on Fantastic Four so bad that they could've just bought the rights back for that, and that would give them time to wait out X-Men stuff, because they were increasingly fricking that up too.
I mean what good is much of the Fox stuff to Disney? Maybe Simpsons, maybe Predator since Prey still got attention, but it wasn't like they put Fox's entire library up on Disney+
https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/the-walt-disney-company-signs-amended-acquisition-agreement-to-acquire-twenty-first-century-fox-inc-for-71-3-billion-in-cash-and-stock/
>The Walt Disney Company Signs Amended Acquisition Agreement To Acquire Twenty-First Century Fox, Inc., For $71.3 Billion In Cash And Stock
>The overall mix of consideration paid to 21st Century Fox shareholders will be approximately 50% cash and 50% stock.
He fricking used $35 billion in cash, holy shit
>we'll just make the money back easily
>COVID happens
>everything that they thought would print money crashed and burned
LMAO DISNEY
I can't believe how that happened
COVID just fricked all their major areas up
>filming movie/TV shows
>movie theaters
>cruises
>parks
>ESPN
Then studios got into streaming because they didn't understand the costs and issues with being their own streamer and that cut revenue that they'd normally get from third-party streamers
Then Iger hired people who got the company involved with a slapfight with Desantis and now control of Reedy Creek is in danger
what is that frog thing infront of the tank
What about Jedi Knights III and KOTOR 3?
And I'm not talking about some modern dogshit, I want the old engines and style.
I wonder will Avellone come back if some miracle happens and KOTOR 3 actually becomes a thing
Well, the allegations were confirmed to be bullshit so there’s a chance
I am going to assume that you aren't LARPing.
I don't understand why you would buy this. The Chinese are really into owning as much of America as humanly possible, but other than that possible motivation, I just don't get it. One reason, I'm certain, why Disney has created so many uniquely awful retreads of Lucasfilms's properties is to claim ownership. Star Wars? They've got their fingerprints all over that. Willow? Same. Indiana Jones? Same. That leaves you with Labyrinth and Howard the Duck. It's like buying a crown after all of the gems have been pried out. Unless you're sitting on some AMAZING new and original property that you want to launch from the name Lucasfilms I don't see any purpose behind purchasing it. Star Wars needs to be locked in a vault for at least 20 years before any new content should be created, and I'm sure in the meantime you'd have Disney crapping all over the name, because they're NOT going to turn loose of the content they created while owning Lucasfilms. It just seems like a completely terrible idea.
Why are there still smoothbrains to this day insisting that Disney will never sell off anything that it acquired? Even Doomwiener's insistence that Kennedy will get fired any day now is more believable than that.
I'm still not going to watch it. 🙂
please please make a modern version of star wars empire at war. The RTS. I will worship the ground you walk on
what about star wars battlegrounds and rebellion?
shadows of the empire tv show
No sorry starwars empire at wars space battle are peak space rts
No questions, just make Star Wars for boys again. That is all you need to make it even moderately successful. The last decade of films and shows have either been "for the whole family" (aka for nobody) or for girls, and look where it's brought us.
Japanese studios, i hope he doesn't ask for globohomosexual sht
Why would Elon buy Star Wars? He likes Disney Star Wars.
Bad Batch is an outlier (though I don't like it). He's trashed Rings of Power and such, so I highly doubt he likes the whole Rey business.
Lol.
Just because he likes one show out of 50 doesn’t mean he likes Disney Star Wars more broadly. How small is your head?
I feel like posts like
and
are made by desperate shills
Star Wars is dead regardless of what you do. The current aesthetics and sensibilities of entertainment are something that doesn't result in a lot of fun, modern actors are the antithesis of charisma. The appeal of the OT was in the cast waving laser swords (all dead or old) and in John Williams creating the music (he won't be doing that again). I don't see how you're going to make Star Wars good again, it's literally a different time now.
Hello, OP. Consider me a potential supporter if this isn't a LARP. However, I must ask how shall you handle potential backlash from current "fans" of Disney's Star Wars brand amidst your buying it? Is the noise of Disney's small but vocal demographic enough to cause other important influential parties (distributors/merchandisers) to back out of your plans?
Best of luck.
>small but vocal demographic
there's probably less than 50 of them worldwide
They are all soibois anyway, it's easy to force them into submission.
Scrapping EU did nothing. Scrapping Disney Canon will bear the same effect I'm sure
Are you talking like what happened with DnD, cause I don't think disney's fans are that powerful anymore, but idk
If they actually bought the Sequel Trilogy merchandise in significant numbers, maybe that would've affected things, but they didn't and it's clear that particular fanbase is not as strong enough to affect things
But think of the vocal backlash. They don't need to buy things in order to cancel them.
The vocal backlash is mostly ineffective because they've been disgraced too many times
And it gets way too obvious when Lucasfilm's own shills like Jason Ward show up to start fights
This is a legitimate concern I'd have too. Star Trek Discovery was the exact opposite of what you're saying where the woke stuff was being pushed, but companies like hasbro didn't want to make any merch of it since they knew people wouldn't like it.
"I'd buy that for a dollar."
Op tell me something, will they do something with the extended universe, kotor, dart vader and Lucas's other IPs?
What are your plans for Indiana Jones?
If you buy it, please start off the new movie with a KK stand in being beheaded by a lightsaber
and a gungan named jar jar abrams who falls into a plasma reactor
>perfect 60 seconds apart posts
>what is inspect element
>took him two minutes to screencap
Keep digging that grave.
if you find it in your heart, please have the first order of business be to decanonize the disney stuff, or maybe abolish canon entirely.
>Thread devolves into another EU vs TCW shit again
Why am I not surprised
It's a deliberate distraction away from noticing that Disney and Lucasfilm are having problems
Blame filoBlack person, our resident lolcow. He doesn't want Star Wars to actually be good.
Filoni lurks here? I'm not a Star Wars fan, but I'd love to talk to Dave Filoni about what it was like meeting the people who worked on Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla. He seems like a nice, cool guy.
It's one autist who deliberately derails the thread whenever someone says something bad about Filoni or TCW. He likes Disneyshit and is more than likely a paid shill.
I'll add fuel the fire.
Hey OP, make sure you create a live action show for this guy. He's the only good thing to come out of the Goy wars era.
(This kills the thread.)
This. So much this.
She's dead.
FO/JS is OK/10. Already read the same story 50X better like four other times though.
>OK/10
I'll take that over literally anything else from the last decade of Disney.
Frick off, keep Cal in his games. The people writing them unironically get Star Wars better than anyone in the TV/movie section of the IP.
>unused Union cover art and the Sun Crusher again
Yaaaaawn, get some new material.
>i-it doesn't count!
EU sisters....
George would approve
He did approve it, he liked Cam Kennedy's art.
I created Ahsoka despite never introducing her in the Prequel.
damn you and your jailbait
What blood tastes the best?