>“I asked [director Michael Bay] why it was easier to train oil drillers to become astronauts than it was to train astronauts to become oil drillers,” said Affleck on the commentary. “He told me to shut the f*** up, so that was the end of that talk.”
Based.
Michael Bay was accidentally being accurate
Pretty much anyone can be given training in how to be a astronaut, it's just learning how to move in micro/zero-gravity safely and using a spacesuit
So it does make more sense to train professionals in a field to become astronauts than it does to train astronauts to become professionals in a field foreign to them
Don’t they already do this with astronauts? If they need a surgeon they train a surgeon for zero g and that’s why all the astronauts are either ex military pilots or scientists with PhDs in something else?
Exactly.
Makes you wonder where the distinction between "Astronaut" and "Trained Passenger" comes in tbh
The difference is if the person is essential to the mission or not. By analogy: an on duty stewardess is a crew. An off duty pilot on a plane is a passenger.
Huh?
Especially since more than half of the normal requirements are about being able to stay alive for weeks/months and returning relatively safe.
NASA also stole Harry's drill design to use for a mars rover and fricked it up. Hence they needed him to repair and operate the thing on the asteroid.
Ironically, in Deep Impact (also from 1998 with Morgan Freeman as the black president), they trained astronauts to drill the nukes into the comet.
those astronauts failed though and earth got BTFO. seems drillers make better astronauts than astronauts make drillers
If you don’t care if they make it home it might be?
Astronauts are super smart gigachads usually, but if you only have weeks and if drilling takes finesse on the level of a surgeon you might not have time for the astronauts to develop the coordination
so Affleck is a frogposter?
this just makes me like him even more.
Why don't the use exclusivley midgets so they can downsize everything?
Ben won.
Affleck's actually pretty funny here. If he did a MST3K/rifftrax-thing it would be pretty good.
Do they still do commentary tracks? This is pretty funny. The nice meta commentary of this is it represents an appeal to the working class. The suits are detached and academic, it's the working class joes that have real knowledge because it's a film that's intended to appeal to the working class. Something changed in the post 2000 era its colbert / stewart so now you'd get a condescending lecture about some kind of made up esoteric knowledge when the 'joe' spoke out of hierarchy
still seething over drumpf eh
>they don't understand what makes a good troony
holy shit ben is salty
It's a good movie man.
It’s not like the guys drilling are morons. Besides the basic manual labor felons, most of them either have a petrochemical engineering or mining degree from texas A and M or the university of Anchorage. That’s how you get into the industry pretty much.
>did not make it into either petroleum engineering program
Bay is a national treasure
They went with actual astronauts, though.
DONT WANNA CLOSE MY EYES
DONT WANNA FALL ASLEEP
I don't even think astronauts do anything tbh. Don't they just sit in a rocket and a bunch of egg heads hit go on a million calculations they did earlier? Pretty sure i could do it.
>Don't they just sit in a rocket and a bunch of egg heads hit go on a million calculations they did earlier?
They ones that just go into orbit maybe. But when you're actually landing on a remote object like the moon or the asteroid you can't always wait for the eggheads on Earth to do the calculations because it takes a long time for the radio signals to get to Earth and back. So you either need people who can do those calculations on their own, like during the moon landings, or you need to really trust in the capabilities of the onboard computers to handle every contingency that might pop up.
All that needs to happen is for them to stay on the asteroid for too long, or have to take off early, and the calculations for the burn-time to get back home would be completely different, as an example of a really small change to the plan.
it's not like the drillers will even be operating in conditions they've ever been in before
>sure lets put 12 astronauts in a gym for 8 months so they can handle heavy machinery
I mean let's face it the entire movie premise was moronic and an excuse to give billions more for the nasa /climate emergency grift. It was kino though
why do they do formation flying with engines constantly burning in space
The mass of the moon and the uneven density of the asteroid fricked with gravitational fields as they did their slingshot maneuver. They needed sustained power to maintain course. And they still fricking crashed.
Why didn't they do this for Greenland? They could've saved the planet.
This movie is ridiculous and schmaltzy and just horribly bad.
you will never be a woman
>This movie is ridiculous and schmaltzy and just horribly good.
Fixed that for you.
Liv Tyler was very lovely in this movie.
>Ben Affleck
This isn't a legitimate e-mail that Barack Obama either sent or received.
Hollyweird is full of kid frickers. Deal with it.
What's going on here?
Did they catch Obama with children in the white house?
>you're a moron, Affleck
More movies should have commentary tracks where the in-the-know writers shit all over the stupid changes that Hollywood introduced to their story.
>that delivery of "the whole point of stealth, phil"
Bay was entirely correct. NASA takes STEM professionals and military pilots and makes them astronauts, not the other way around.
For me? It's Space Cowboys. Ever since I saw it as a teen it's been the way I'd want to go out. Not only saving people, so my death has a purpose, but also get to just sit on the moon and look at the sights as I pass out from oxygen deprivation, to remain untouched as the first man entombed on the Moon, instead of rotting in a grave back on Earth.
I love how Ben Affleck's commentary track for this movie is just him being embarrassed of being in a big-budget dumb action schlock and yet because Michael Bay is such a fricking good director, this movie still fricking owns and even makes you feel some feels with its "14 brave souls vs the asteroid" monologue set to beautiful old-timey images of Americana cut together with people in landmark locations around the world.