>I didn't kill you, you killed yourself by failing to perform brain surgery on yourself in 3 minutes
>I am very smart
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>I didn't kill you, you killed yourself by failing to perform brain surgery on yourself in 3 minutes
He walks. There's no getting around it, it's an impossible case.
>falsely imprisons people solely because of some perceived immorality and forces them to mutilate themselves or else face a gruesome and painful death
>HE DINT COMMIT NE CRIEMS
This meme is so tiresome and the worst part is even though it’s obvious b8 I’m sure there are cancergay zoom zooms who actually fall for it. Now go ahead and hit me with some more b8 and tell me how he did nothing wrong
he never actually murdered someone
>this amount of mental gymnastics
Holy fricking smoothbrain kek
newbie lmao
newbie lmao
what does lmao mean?
Legally, Man Appears not Offending (something that can be used to describe Jigsaw)
these
he was never convicted of crimes and a person is innocent until proven guilty
you are libelizing a legally innocent man and in turn opening yourself up for criminal prosecution
kek'd at the thought of someone going to jail because they called John Kramer a murderer
>JigC sues YOU!
boom make another sequel while Tobin's still alive
>I’m sure there are cancergay zoom zooms who actually fall for it
The eternal risk of pretending to be moronic.
Reminder that a lot of the sjwshit terminology that later became the wokeshit terminology started off as a joke on SomethingAwful mocking excessive political correctness, until eventually the "jokes" attracted people who took it seriously.
Similar thing happened with QAnon and Trump support, which also began as a parody.
Calling something obvious bait doesn't alter the fact that you're getting caught by it.
>This meme is so tiresome
It's not a meme. Its this terrible franchises own moronic fans admitting that Jigsaw is the Worst Horror Movie Villain of All Time.
He's drugged and kidnapped people, let people entering his home die due to traps he laid out, and mutilated several people, many post death to cut out the Jigsaw piece of their skin. All crimes.
The dude is like 90 and dying from cancer, you can't prove shit
I was with you until the new movie.
He stinks. There's no refuting it. Jigsaw is the Worst Horror Movie Villain of All Time.
What if I break his legs?
>dies of brain cancer
he made his choice
do people really this reddit tier character or is all some epic maymay thing
The latter. It's a longstanding larp. Some people will believe it, the kind of clown who'll get brutalized for trying to Facts and Logic a cop
okay baby boy
jigsaw walks regardless. sovcit arguments would make him waaaaaaaay too unrealistically overpowered
>Hitler didn't gas anyone, they gassed themselves by not opening the wooden doors.
>I am very smart
>As a teenager during World War II, Grocher survived the gas chamber and nine concentration camps including Buchenwald and Majdanek. He also survived the Majdanek gas chambers. He realized he was actually in a gas chamber and began walking backwards. The guard guarding the gas chambers was in a conversation with another guard so Grocher escaped and found his father.
>walk backwards or die, let the game begin
I liked him better in Lost
Legally it is very smart. He can't be prosecuted, there's just no legitimate charge that won't have you laughed away by the judge. This is the crazy fricked up world we live in, people. In a way he is a hero of our time.
You could at least hit him with kidnapping. And I’m sure there’s some sort of manslaughter/reckless endangerment charge.
No, not really. The victims don't have memory of the kidnapping die to drugs or w/e, so technically there's no proof it happened. Endangerment is also a no-no, since he told them exactly what to do to survive.
If you drop someone in the middle of a minefield you are endangering them even if you give them directions to get out. Kidnapping and attempted homicide.
so if i blindfold you to go to a surprise party and you trip down the stairs of your own volition, that's jigsaw's fault somehow?
Isn't it your fault for not properly securing me like the moron I clearly am in this scenario?
lmao yeah man you started thrashing around going NUHHHHH and slapping your wrist against your chest and did twenty barrel rolls down 10 steps because you were so worked up
thank you for playing his game, but jigsaw walks
I am a law professor (tenured) at one of the most prestigious law schools in the country. One lesson my faculty typically teaches is based around the Saw movies. We ask each student to pick one of the movies and try to prove a crime is committed. To this day, some of the brightest minds who have worked their way through our program have had their essays shot down by the faculty. We even keep a wall with some of the closest attempts at successfully prosecuting Jigsaw, which is always good for laughs when professors from other universities visit.
>I am a law professor (tenured) at one of the most prestigious law schools in the country.
Name every law
Murder theft assault jaywalking
That's it
Baskin Roberts
>hello anon
>I know you tried to have a nice day last week, so here's a giant blender full of needles
>live or die lmao
why is he like this?
Honestly as much as people give the Saw series shit, it's actually incredible how you literally can't find a way to charge Jigsaw with a crime. It's undeniably genius writing.
eat shit, worm
tax evasion undoubtedly
there's no way an architect/civil engineer could ever afford to set up all the crazy projects kramer does
he did it as a non profit so there’s nothing you could get him for
just for laughs, will you explain away the kidnapping?
kids nap all the time
truly an air tight legal defense
that was hoffinator, zepp, amanda, etc. john just provided choices
He kidnapped plenty of victims before he recruited Amanda, Hoffman, Gordon and Nelson. The Jigsaw killings were already well established by the time they joined up with him.
they were all adults moron
>steven fricko, in elementary school you called the kid with crooked teeth weird looking, unless you smash all your teeth with this hammer in 30 seconds, I'll smash all your teeth with a hammer
Sorry, this was an accident, didn't mean to post it here
it's too late, we all saw it
live or die, the choice is yours
>you accidentally posted in a thread
>now your testicles will be crushed in a vice unless you successfully spam 5 sneed threads to bump limit
>live or die
Epic bad luck
kek early 2000s Hoffman is such a Chad, he would totally say this
still the best post ITT
>But ypur excelency, my client didnt kill the victim. He just poisoned him, smeared him with a flammable gel, put him in a dark room with the floor full of bronken glass, gave the victim a candle and told him to find the number of a safe, which contained an antidote, a serie of numbers written in the wall and told him that he had up to 3 minutes before the poison act up. My client gave plenty of opportunity for the victim to survive this game. This can be considered suicide. My client is innocent
GRLGRLGRLGRLGRLRGL NO JALA
>i work at a lawfirm and we'd always test out the newbies (freshly passed the bar) by having a mock trial with this.
>He was deemed innocent EVERY SINGLE TIME
>you should have seen the faces of the newbies when they realized the law dont work like it should.
How could they in good conscious release these movies knowing full well they're giving actual serial killers a fool proof get out of jail free card? It's only a matter of time before some sicko actually does this and then there's nothing we can do legally speaking
that's just the thing - it turns actual serial killers into non-killers, since the victims all kill themselves
it would be much preferrable if the terrorists calling themselves "hamas" or whatever, constructed such traps to at least give the innocent israeli civilians they're hunting a chance at life
yeah it could very well be underway already but we just don't know it. what are the suicide rates looking like?
HURR JIGC BAD MAN GO PRISON IN REAL LIFE
>OK then, please explain your thought process
HURR I SAW HIM DO THE BAD THING ON TV AND THAT MEAN HE BAD
>So do you have any actual evidence or just simply, "I saw it in the movie"? You know that won't hold up in court right?
NOOO FUK U BLOODY BENCHOD NEEDFUL BASTRD
>Only kidnapps child molesters
>Gets cancelled for being transphobic
Neither of these statements apply to jigsaw.
I could imagine Jigsaw kidnapping someone who says they're trans for attention and forcing them to cut their dick off.
>You spent the past several weeks entering and unarmed places for your own amusement, despite the divorce claims. Now you will the face and actions. You are locked the cell in a room with a cat and bomb collar attached to the other side that is connected to a string on the chair that you're sitting on top of the chair. A three digit combination is if you the door. The only way to retrieve the code is through a stable metronome sitting past far the corner of the room where you are currently situation. In exactly nine minutes, the room. Let the games begin.
Does she post here?
god i love her
so did she live or what? she had her head pokin out. did she just die from chlorine exposure to the rest of her body or something?
The charges?
Either the buildings weren't up to code, he was trespassing on property he didn't own, or he was operating a commercial/recreation venue in an industrially zoned building.
There. Case closed.
those are mere civil offenses, not crimes
anon you can absolutely go to jail for running an illicit business
Al Capone went to jail for tax evasion, that's why you have to mark a box saying you had no income from illegal sources on your return, either you admit to a crime or you perjure yourself
JigC pays his taxes on time and declares all the millions he gives to mexican children covered in blood
he owned the properties and they were all up to code, see i think saw 4 for those critical details
sorry but once again, jigsaw walks
there's a reason these films are more popular teaching material in law schools than film schools, and they're a huge deal in any film school worth its salt
all the properties are owned by Carlos
So he has a business license for an entertainment venue where people regularly die?
you need a license for other people to choose to kill themselves? does that exist?
Yes, MAID certification
https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/health-services-benefits/medical-assistance-dying.html
if JigC lived in England or one of its colonies he could be convicted of license infractions but the USA has much more freedoms
if i rent you a house and you die in it, that's not my problem
> And the giant pile of needles?
> ah, yes. Well, there was a note next to them.
>gets away it with all
>kills all the fake doctors and bonnie&clyde and makes his point
>saves the mexican kid and give him a bag of money and walks into the sunset with 50yo MILF Amanda
>still can't be charged because everything he did was on Mexican soil
Jiggy can't stop winning
attempted murder of a police officer. checkmate, sawhomosexuals.
self defense, castle-doctrine, etc
self defence. they didn't have a warrant or probable cause to enter
Before Amanda and Hoffman, how did Doctor Jigsaw do anything?
This + the "muh value life" shit are legitimately the only bad parts about the saw movies. Jigsaw is already an interesting character and kind of likeable because of how good he is at everything else. Adding the moralgay part to his character and him designing his traps so he doesn't technically kill them is moronic. Nobody really cares about why he picks the people he does, they just want to see him frick them up with weird traps and them struggle to beat them
I agree. It was important to have some exploration into his mind in the sense of "how/why could you justify this" but expanding it as some grand moral philosophy was dumb
I don't remember the movies I think I only watched up to 3 or 4 (I remember our teacher playing 3 I think in elementary school, we got to see frozen breasts of a woman trapped in some refrigerating area)
But it makes sense I think. The crazy person going to these massive lengths to test/kill people would absolutely have some big idea/philosophy inside their minds
>teacher played Saw 3 in elementary school
well that's pretty cool I guess
>I don't remember the movies I think I only watched up to 3 or 4 (I remember our teacher playing 3 I think in elementary school, we got to see frozen breasts of a woman trapped in some refrigerating area)
18+
I like it because it makes the character more complex
obviously he’s still a sociopath but at least there’s a piece of “ok, he’s a little justified” in it. Most horror movies suck because they’re literally just “le pure evil people/entities killing people” but Saw at least adds a little nuance
that said, and I say this despite loving the series…they were so close to making it really good but get a little too up their own ass with it. Saw 10 as an example
the dude needs to perform brain surgery on himself and dissolve his brain in less than 3 minutes. He technically does it but because the brain matter doesn’t dissolve quickly enough, he dies. We root for his death because JigC is effectively the protagonist in 10, interestingly, but there needed to be some character who could balance out JigC’s sociopathy with a “holy SHIT dude you think you gave him a chance? That dude could barely name a single part of his brain and you wanted him to cut out a significant portion of it in less time than it takes to jerk off”
they do a little with the main evil woman when she calls out his hypocrisy but she’s somehow even more evil than JigC that it kind of doesn’t matter
ultimately this is the thing that pisses me off about nearly all horror movies. They all skirt trying to be great by being by the numbers. Terrifier 1 and 2 did the same thing. So close to being actually interesting but then they fumble it towards the end
can someone reply to my long post thanks
>“holy SHIT dude you think you gave him a chance? That dude could barely name a single part of his brain and you wanted him to cut out a significant portion of it in less time than it takes to jerk off”
I've never analyzed it but I think jigsaw really does make some of his traps harsher or more rigged i.e. some people, if they survive, just get some scars while others have to take entire limbs. For the brain surgery one, that was clearly ironic and taking a part of your brain is one of the more insane punishments if he survived.
Also, just to note, jigsaw is on some level objectively evil no matter the moralgay stuff because there are plenty of examples where he kills people or put them in situations that would kill them outright with no trap or anything. I think this happens the most in the first movie, from what I can remember though technically most of the work was done by the other guy and not some jigsaw seemingly directly setup (i.e. the detective getting his head blown off). Jigsaw might setup an elaborate trap to teach someone it's not okay to be depressed but he would not hesitate to shoot an officer if he got in his way.
I liked the reaction of the aussie guy while the premise was still he stumbled into this while looking to blow off some steam with a gun and get his money back
>you guys are frickin crazy
The problem is they never mention how Jisgaw was undoubtedly an evil shit is Saw 1. Justify him kidnapping Zepp, he's just an orderly at the hospital minding his own business and he gets put into a game. Everyone else you could kinda justify although Adam got fricked over hard.
I don't know if I hate this meeme or dick status meemd more. Either way its shit
Only Saw 1 is good. Why you guys bother watching the rest? Kek
sunk cost fallacy
I was hoping Saw X would be good. it wasn't
same
evil mommy was awesome though
they scratch a very particular itch nothing else can
they're unique aesthetically. i like the feel of the series, there's nothing else like it
none of them are great films but they are generally all great dumb fun, which is all it was ever supposed to be
it's ironic to think that a horror franchise beating a dead horse has integrity, but it definitely does. i love all the flashbacks and retcons and stupid shit
i watched 2 and played the videogame back in the day
they were both pretty nice
It’s annoying when the victim only fails because they ran out of time even though they had it completed
yea no kidding
>you did it but now my le brain matter enzyme detector needs a few seconds to kick in
>ooo bad luck, you're dead
He could give you 3 nanoseconds, bottom line you had a choice
Jiggy says he's innocent
I believe it
That settles it
this is what the naysayers don't get
biggie j. saws is all about live laugh love
I want to play a game. You're here because you CREEPED on a girl who was under 25!
did they ever explain why jigsaw's voice turned into a troony youtuber's in the spiral movie?
i can only make it half way before closing because it was too embarrassing to listen to without headphones
it's not jigsaw, and troony youtuber voice is a red herring
who do you think the killer was?!
can someone please spoonfeed jigC to me
i've been using it because it sounds funny, but what's the inspiration behind it?
is it like see/saw?
JigC rocks
>Throughout the years you spent countless hours online, making threats that you avoided legal responsibilities for by adding "in Minecraft"
>Now, we will see just how commited you are to escape ... in Minecraft.
>The room you find yourself in has a water and a food dispenser, but they only contain enough sustenance for 250 days.
>Finish a simple speedrun of a children's videogame in less than 15,5 minutes, and the locks on your chamber won't unlock, but you will be allowed to play something else ... for a while.
>haha chop your body or die
Why would I choose to live incomplete?