i dont get how blair went insane in a matter of hours

just from computer simulation

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    You'd go nuts too if you found out the only thing stopping it from taking over the world is a team of bickering idiots. Palmer is a dick, Mac just wants to drink, etc

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >stopping it from taking over the world
      there is no proof it wanted to take over the world, the thing building an escape spaceship indicates it was just trying to survive and escape

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        It was an alien anon, where was the proof that it WOULDN'T just fly off in its ship into a more populated area and start absorbing all life? Better to err on the side of caution if you figure out it has the potential to do that, even if it might not

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Doesn't matter; the fact is it could have and if it wanted to there was no stopping it once it got past them.

        Reminder that it didn't infect people, it killed them then copied

        Garry's body was fricking absorbed into the Blair-thing.

        Was the Thing just taking over one person at a time or was he multiple people at once at any time in the movie?

        Palmer and Norris were both Thingers here

        Multiple things. The blood test shows that any split-off thing will fend for it's own life; the blood-thing freaks out and tries to escape with it's life, at the cost of the host-thing's identity.

        Palmer-thing fricking sells out Norris-thing as it's walking away as a head.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Found the Thing

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Reminder that it didn't infect people, it killed them then copied

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    He didn't go insane. He made a choice out of fear, but it was ultimately based on real concerns. He acted in haste to prevent potential disaster. One could even argue that, based on his limited information, he made the right choice. He lost his cool, yes, but he didn't turn into a nutter.

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >You think this noose is for me? It's gonna be around your neck by tomorrow night.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Um, transphobic much?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        dont you see?
        it wants to be us!
        these breasts, perfectly ordinary organs, found in the trash with some chest binding material.
        Man is the warmest place to hide, UWU, any one of us could now be one of those things...

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Ok all you men, Blair is my deadname, and you better not use it. I'm a pretty lady now, and you can call me Barbara!

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    You must have never had a moment in your life where things are so colossally fricked, and when you analyze the situation it causes massive amounts of mental stress.

    He analyzed the situation and realized there's no other alternative but murder-suicide.

    My head cannon was that he had become the Thing by the time he said he was ready to come back in. There was a noose next to him, so he was going to kill himself, but something made him do an about-face.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >My head cannon was that he had become the Thing by the time he said he was ready to come back in. There was a noose next to him, so he was going to kill himself, but something made him do an about-face.

      I agree with this and had a similar theory. I always thought the "real" Blair would not have wanted to go back in at any cost.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      > My head cannon was that he had become the Thing by the time he said he was ready to come back in.
      I wouldn’t call it head canon, that’s definitely what it was meant to be. He was going to hang himself, or maybe he even succeeded and then was reanimated

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    he was absorb by a thing between this scene a destroyng the communication

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      He's just seen The Thing in action and he knows what it's capable of. He ran a (very simplistic, but not unreasonable given what he's understood thus far) projection which shows that if they make a single mis-step, ALL LIFE ON EARTH IS FRICKED IN THREE YEARS' TIME, TO BE REPLACED FOREVER WITH THIS ABOMINATION WHICH WILL THEN GO ON TO OTHER WORLDS AD INFINITUM (per Fuchs' reading of his frenzied notes). It's difficult to make the stakes clearer, or higher.

      This is a fun "hot take" alternate theory, but it's not the point in time that makes the most sense. Blair's actions in destroying the rec room are very human actions, not some 4D thing-chess. What makes the most sense is that he was grabbed in the shack when he was BY HIMSELF. This also explains the tunnelling and the "funny noises" (Blair-thing himself, and the other mass of thing-shit, are causing those "funny noises".

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    You'd too be bit freaked out if you realize that you might be surrounded by monsters and if any of those monsters escape the earth is fricked.

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    he's the only one who truly understood the stakes

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      ...and that's the ultimate irony of the film.

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Did it ever occur to you that maybe he was already a bit depressed before The Thing arrived? Even McReady doesn't look like he's enjoying his time there, he's mostly staying apart from everyone else.
    It looks like the thing happened in a group that was already hot for paranoia and anxiety.
    Blair just probably found out that his worst nightmare would become true.

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    kurt russell is a kino machine

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    we get a the thing situation in real life but its with low iq brown "people" instead

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Was the Thing just taking over one person at a time or was he multiple people at once at any time in the movie?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      The point is that when you're assimilated, there is no "person" anymore inside. It's more like different parts of the thing.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      There was no break between the Palmer and Nauls thing so you can pretty much assume there was multiple Things around at any time.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      The sumulation showed mass spreading, right?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Palmer and Norris were both Thingers here

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        did they know each other was a Thing™?

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think we can asume so, otherwise you'd end up trying to assimilate yourself all the time.
          And you dont want to end up having to say "hey stop it, i'm already us." every time.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >hey bro, it's ok, i'm one of us

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, they were trying to coordinate through looks to implicate MacReady and try to foil any tests. One stuffed Mac's underwear in the furnace and one cut the blood packs. They pretty much had it won until Mac got back inside with dynamite. Then Norris's heart problem caused that thing to keel over and reveal itself.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            weird how despite its shapeshifting qualities it's not able to fix Norris' heart problem. I guess a Thing doesn't "think" about the defective aspects of its host, it just does full mimicry for better or worse

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              Fixing these kinda things would probably give away that they have changed yeah.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        True!

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think we can asume so, otherwise you'd end up trying to assimilate yourself all the time.
        And you dont want to end up having to say "hey stop it, i'm already us." every time.

        but were they full Things? you are still "you" when initially infected and after an undetermined amount of time assimilation turns you toward the Thing's goals, it's not immediate. so someone recently infected could be attacked by a 'full' Thing without realising it, or vice versa

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          One of the first things that the infected host does is probably secrete some sort of pheromone to prevent these kind of oopsies.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            in the book the thing is telepathic, so separate things would just detect each other

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Palmer was fully assimilated since he was the one who tampered with the blood

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          It doesn't mind control you, it eats you then pretends to be you.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Norris was never a thing while he was alive, Palmer infected him after the heart attack

  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I believe he was partially infected by thing

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      There is no partial or half-assed or slow infection. Everytime, it is brutal and quick.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        the computer simulation clearly implies slow infection is a thing

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Listen, genius...
        there is a difference, as the movie clearly shows, of fast, intentional infection, and accidental, singular cell slow replication infection.

        Blair is also clearly shown dissecting the thing they brought back from the Nordcuck station, and at any point in that, was exposed to enough thing material to start changing at that point due to skin contact (which is also clearly shown repeatedly, especially with Blair at the end).

        By the time he is running the computer simulation, he was already infected and even then, he is already mentally degrading.

        You can view the radio destruction scene one of two ways...he was deeply infected and was thing-thinking, or he was mostly infected and enough was left of Blair to carry that out to stop further spread.

        In the end, it only serves the thing's purpose, since it isn't worried about some "muh super fast zomboid infection", but it IS interested in spreading one person at a time to socially control any situation it's in (Carpenter taking obvious Pod People inspiration).

        So thingies would want control of the local area FIRST, so no word would get out about them so they could remain subversive, then use local transportation or even other radios at other stations it came across, to slowly work around the planet.

        Thing-Blair is later shown exactly doing the opposite of "fast infection in population", attempting to hide, then build a way out with the saucer.

        The movie shows pretty much exactly the misunderstanding of the crew there, and the thing, which is not human, and how it works and thinks.

  13. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I still can't get my head around how The Thing can imitate a person and make them say and do things that align with their personality but it doesn't actually know or understand those things

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe your brain is held prisoner inside, conscious with all your memories, unable to escape

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      that's one of the scariest staples of the cosmic horror genre-- The mobster or threat is partially or completely beyond human comprehension

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >cosmic mobster horror

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >The Thing 1920
          >Al Capone realizesvone of his men is the thing
          >He grabs basebal bat
          >"This Thing wants to be us seeee, nyaaaaa" *thwack*

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >look how they assimilated my boy

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            jejpilled

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >old cthonian doo wop music playing
          >"In the entropic space preceding creation, things had a special way of gettin done"
          >scenes of lovecraftian monsters loading psychic trauma into the minds of humanity, interrupted by scenes of grotesque body horror
          >old god in old makeup
          >"we didnt know how good we had it"
          >Directed by Martin Scorsese
          Would be kino

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >but it doesn't actually know or understand those things
      If it can consider its options, decide to build a fricking spaceship, and then actually do so, The Thing is completely capable of understanding the things it says and does. It's just evil.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >It's just evil.

        zero evidence to support this, survival isn't evil

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        the prequel shows that it's not it's spaceship, but it was a specimen that broke out and infected the pilot. so how does it know how to build a spaceship?? does it just retain the intelligence of things it takes over?

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          i mean it learnt to blend into humans and speak their language so I imagine so

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Eh, I guess you can asume it overwrites everything but still have access to the original hosts memories and thought patterns.
      Its just that it now becomes a 2.0 version of you but with root access or something.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's a chinese room thought experiment
      you get set of instructions on how to speak chinese using cards with words but no idea what those signs mean or what you are doing
      it was an idea to demonstrate that machines do not think just because they can talk but can be applied to the thing too

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Who asked you, twerp?

  14. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Blair accidentally infected himself when he was doing an autopsy on the mutated remains of the thing. He touches the guts with his pencil, and then puts the pencil to his mouth.

    clip starts at 1:10

    ?si=0moKVtpds50JRwkq

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      no he wasnt. if he was he could have easily infected macready when he went to check up on him.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        He was infected at that point, but he was hoping to maintain the illusion that he was fine and trick them into trusting him again. He was sneaking around camp and trying to implicate MacReady too. They find out later that he'd been able to get out under the floor boards and go gather tools and materials to build his ship.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's been said that what Wilford does with the pencil is purely a random act, it wasn't in the script and he wasn't supposed to be infected then.

  15. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    lol imagine if The Thing tried to get your guard down by transforming into a sexy naked lady lmao

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >hot 80s chick arrives at base with no explanation
      >which one of you hot guys wants to bang me first? don't worry I'm totally not The Thing
      what would your response be?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        stick my dick in her pusy then scream in terror as her entire torso opens into a set of fangs and bites my dick off, making me bleed to death. as I lie in a growing pool of my own blood, I weakly lift my head, look directly at the camera and mutter "least I didn't die a virgin..."

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          awww

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Haha, wouldn't it be funny if you knew it was the thing but you had sex with it anyway (just for the luls of course)?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      We basically got that in The Thing Below!

      https://www.aznude.com/mrskin/gloriannegilbert/thethingbelow/thing-gilbert1a-cmb-hi.html

  16. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >sex beyond human comprehension
    imagine

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      You literally can't.

  17. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    He knew he was infected already. All he could do is try to stop it from spreading then kill himself. Which he does but the Thing brings him back.

  18. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    id rather deal with a xenomorph invasion than a thing get loose tbh senpai. and xenomoprhs are mega spooky

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Is there any in universe examples of aliens actually overrunning a planet? They seem intelligent and to have a high degree of control over their bodies. I sort of presumed that they just turned off the desire to hugger everyone after a bit and ensconce the queen somewhere.

  19. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    the Thing could actually make for a great movie in both a historic or futuristic setting, it's such a simple concept at its core. Long as the location is isolated

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dont give them any ideas, native american predator shennanigans was enough.
      Wait, did they make that yet? I stopped following hollywood.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Long as the location is isolated
      Not really. It really needs to be in an arctic/north pole setting to work; if it's in the woods, jungle, or mountains there's nothing stopping the Thing from infected any random living creature and making it out eventually. It'll freeze and be buried in snow in the arctic/north pole, though. MAYBE a desert could work, but even deserts have some life that the Thing could infect and make it out on.

  20. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    *ahem* FRICK THINGERS

  21. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Thingers had almost full control at this point.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      The moment the dog came to the camp, every single one of them was infected. Some anons here like to pretend it's some video game zombie logic, nu uh it didn't bite me I'm not turning

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Then why tf did it grab Bennings & tentacle rape him in the storage room, moron? It obviously has a more complicated process of turning you that involves isolating a victim and molesting you or something, rather than just high fiving you and waiting who the frick knows how long for you to be turned into a Thing. Were that the case it would've fricked off and not interacted with the crew at all, waiting for your headcanon 'infection' to take hold.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          moron, in the beginning, low level assimilation, the thing's operate as distinctive free agents for all intensive purposes. Only the high assimilation level thing can tell which one of them is one of him. It's all explained in the novel. You're welcome. dummy.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >MUH NOVELS

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why didn't they just grab him right there? Three on one.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        It was only two, Childs and Windows weren't things. And they didn't know where Mac and Nauls were.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Thing is cowardly, it had a higher chance of success if it had gone on the attack once the numbers were even, but it's nature is to hide and ambush instead

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Who the frick are you calling cowardly? I mean there's no evidence of that, ha ha

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous
  22. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    It was the diabetes.

  23. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >People still think "slow infection" exists.
    If the Thing could just infect everyone through saliva and shit, it would have never needed to stop being a dog and Clark would have been infected before anyone else.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      So what sense is there in assimilation at all? If you have to do these loud scary attacks on your target, just be a regular monster since there's not any real stealth advantage. The situation of a small group of isolated individuals is the only place where it was some kind of advantage.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        The attacks aren't always loud (as demonstrated by Jennings). The Thing assimilates via stealth and targeting loan individuals. Again, if it could actually assimilate via single cells, there would be no film.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Well, just because your cells came into contact with a virus, bacteria or parasite, doesn’t mean they succeed in infecting you. Your white blood cells combat these invaders. So just the Thing touching you, might not instantly or successfully infect you. But it could take some time. A few thing cells might first need to build up enough in your body, before being able affect your actions or assimilating you.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >if it could actually assimilate via single cells
          >they blow it up at the end of the movie
          >just aerosolized a bunch of the cells into the whole camp
          >rescue teams arrive and starts collecting debris for evidence
          >frozen cells melt and infect the entire crew that came to investigate/rescue
          oh dear oh dear

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >and targeting loan individuals
          The thing is antisemitic?

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            He obviously meant loyle individuals.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >it would have never needed to stop being a dog
      it didn't until it got put in with the other dogs. they could sense it was 'off' so it had no choice but to attack them to tyr and silence them before the humans were alerted, but it wasn't quick enough

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Weren't the other dogs alright with it until it had already started mutating?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah just from the movie it seems like it's got to grab you and inject you with tentacles and ooze, like with the other dogs it practically tried to "digest" them.

  24. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Thing is truly kino

  25. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I never watched this movie because I always hated the title. They couldn't even give it a name?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      It does have a name though. It is known as Das Ding due to the distinctive noise it makes when it attacks its victims.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I should've known the alien was Chinese

  26. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Thing Sequel
    >Rescue teams sent to the American and Swedish camps to investigate
    >They find the original Alien spacecraft
    >They each take parts of it back to their home countries and begin reverse engineering it
    >A new space race and cold war has begun as they each try to get the upper hand and colonize the furthest reaches of the solar system first
    >All the sudden activity and unusual FTL alien signals emanating from Sol catch the attention of nearby aliens that head there to investigate

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      That is so fricking boring and cliche it's unreal.
      Are you an actual Hollywood exec?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        There's nothing boring nor cliche about it. It's an actual interesting way to take the story. A dumbass like you would just make a direct sequel where they do the exact same shit with a group slowly being picked off by a thing monster but call it new and original.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          bruh it's literally alien vs predator movie script

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Dude what if we had a sequel to [unique scifi horror] and it was [generic scifi that's been done a million times]?

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          ur idea is frickin shit mate

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >That huge ass ship
      Better hope they already killed the one "Thing" on that ship, cause no way that's gonna remain undiscovered. All the future scientists have to do is find The Things pet dog or something and they're
      all fricked
      And yes I realize that's like 2/3 of the In The Mountains of Madness story, but points stands

  27. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >insane
    He didnt, he had a very rational response to everything, he was just way ahead of the curve and understood early that they all had to die for the thing to be stopped.

    He was an old fart on an research station in the middle of antarctica, safe to say he didnt have much to live for in the first place.

  28. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    He took a scientific approach to the problem
    at hand.

  29. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine The Thing but replaced with Soprano's characters

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      NOBODY'S GOT THE THING!

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Carmella, could you please open the DOOOOR!

  30. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    He realised that he and everybody in the base HAD to die, or the entire human race was completely fricked. It’s not hard to understand how that might screw with somebody’s head.

  31. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >In light of recent humiliations, it's an honor to be joined by men...
    >AND NOT ALIEN-ASS TRANSFORMING THING THAT KILLED OUR CREW, IT SHOULD FRICKIN' DIE!

  32. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Your dog handler Clark, whatever happened there...

  33. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    They were both infected/Thing at the end.
    You know it. I know it.

    That last scene is The Thing having a talk with itself. Rewatch it with this in mind. Makes perfect sense why they're happy to freeze knowing full well that equals a potential Thing victory.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Carpenter already said Childs was a thing at the end. If you look closely you'll notice Childs isn't actually breathing.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >source: my ass

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Carpenter already said Childs was a thing at the end.
        No he didn't. And you will no provide a source as it doesn't exist.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >If you look closely you'll notice Childs isn't actually breathing.
        I keep hoping one day morons will stop saying this stupid shit along with the gasoline drink "theory."

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Carpenter already said Childs was a thing at the end.
          No he didn't. And you will no provide a source as it doesn't exist.

          >source: my ass

          childs is the thing because of the missing blue jacket on racket

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >its the jackeeet!
            >wheres the jacket? You are not wearing the jacket.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Carpenter already said Childs was a thing at the end. If you look closely you'll notice Childs isn't actually breathing.

      do you not understand the point of the whisky at all?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I prefer my headcanon that neither of them are infected, they won but they'll never know. whiskey theory was deboonked as was Child's breathing

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        MacReady was actually the first guy infected by the dog, the entire movie was orchestrated by him. The blood test? A complete ruse - the blood was close enough to the host that he had control over it.

  34. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Oh what the frick, I didn't see there was already a Thing thread up

  35. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >matter of hours
    Days of heavy drinking and barely eating
    Blair was obsessing over it, the scientist that he was
    His paranoia mounting and mounting
    He writes programs to simulate all the scenarios running through his head
    The dread of humanity's impending doom overwhelms him
    He despairs
    It works

  36. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    He was already infected from dissecting the double-thing and the dog-thing, he just didn't know it yet. The Thing took over him at that point and made him wreck the base as a ploy, he was pretending to be insane so that the rest of the humans would leave him alone so he could build his UFO.

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