>pretended to
what is there to pretend to get? it's about the zodiac killer and how the case affected the lives of some of the investigators. the killer was never caught so the movie ends with that. were you confused by the killer being portrayed by several different people/voices?
>Graysmith goes to a hardware store, >he gets asked if he needs any help by an employee >he says stares at the employee awkwardly says no then leaves.
Was the point of this scene to show Graysmith developing autism later in life? I just don't see why it was included either way.
I think it was supposed to be like "i know it's you but there is nothing i can do about it" he talks about looking the killer in the eyes to his wife in an earlier scene
that was the guy the cops had interviewed earlier that had several close ties to one or more of the victims, at one point there was a strong case he was the killer. jake wanted to meet him face to face and get the measure of him (ie try to determine if this man was a mass murderer).
It's about the frustration and limitation of '70s police procedure colliding face-first with a killer who covered his tracks well, wrapped up in a tight, suspenseful manhunt thriller
Fincher and Vanderbilt have their cake and eat it by directly accusing ALA through Graysmith
There was a guy I used to talk to that I met on Cinemaphile who hated this movie because the police didn't catch the Zodiac killer by the end of the movie. Thank you for reading my blog.
In the scenes with the Zodiac killer, he is played by 3 different actors. Leigh Arthur Allen's actor is not one of them. is this just a production quirk, or is it a clue from Fincher that he does not think Allen was the killer?
Allegedly they chose those three actors to exactly match the body proportions given by witnesses for each incident. Also in the last scene photo lineup, the guy who the witness says has the same head shape, but he's sure it's Allen, is a picture of one of these actors.
the enjoyment is in the journey of fincher autistically recreating 70s california. the basement scene is just an exquisitely written and directed scene that stands out
He was a gay guy and his grinder hookup was upstairs. The footsteps heard are from the bottom up top walking to a trash can to ejaculate into over the fantasy taking place and then cleaning up cum drops with toilet paper.
it might not have been him, there's like 2 other strong suspects for zodiac and I think Allen had an alibi for one of the killings and there was some other evidence that pointed to other suspects too
There's not a single piece of conclusive evidence that points to Leigh Allen to being the Zodiac, everything was circumstantial and the movie does a poor job at showing the leaps in logic Graysmith makes, for example the birthday call that he kinda uses to tie everything togethat was a)confirmed not made in ALA's birthday but a few days later and b) confirmed to be made by the same schizo who called the tv show earlier in the movie, who is obviously not the zodiac, just some schizo
it's about how obsession can destroy people's lives, multiple people were obsessed with trying to find zodiac for years and it ruined them and their personal relationships, serial killers can have a wider effect on the area they operate in than just on the people they kill, they can affect everyone in the city to some extent
yeah, and their failure to do so ruined their lives, if you want another good example of this happening watch sons of Sam, about a journalist who spent decades trying to uncover the truth about the son of Sam killer and that he was part of a cult who all participated in the killings and were involved in other killings around the country, his obsession destroyed his marriage, his reputation and eventually drove him to become an alcoholic who died from his drinking, and he was probably right too but he could never find the one but of evidence that tied it all together and proved he was right
no reason to.
you're trying to make me think I need to care about people doing their jobs and failing, thus destroying their own lives.
that, isn't my problem.
4 months ago
Anonymous
you don't have to care, go watch something else. that's what this movie is about
4 months ago
Anonymous
no it isn't. it's about whomst the zodiac is/is not and the people he killed. not the others that destroyed their lives because they were addicted to the allure of fame the zodiac and his art gave them.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>it's about whomst the zodiac is/is not and the people he killed
no it isn't, you missed the point of the film completely you brainlet
4 months ago
Anonymous
yes it is.
without the zodiac, those people were nothing.
4 months ago
Anonymous
can it not be about both? it's a film not a documentary.
4 months ago
Anonymous
as stated, it's about the zodiac(s) and the people they killed. if others chose to ruin their lives because of his art that is on them.
4 months ago
Anonymous
it's not about the zodiac or the people he killed, they're barely in it, it's about people investigating the case. you are moronic
4 months ago
Anonymous
>it's not about the zodiac
the name of the movie is literally >Zodiac
4 months ago
Anonymous
>movie is called silence of the lambs >it's about lambs
4 months ago
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he clearly doesn't understand that
4 months ago
Anonymous
sure I do.
I also understand people CHOSE to ruin their own lives. no sympathy from me at all.
none. it's that simple.
4 months ago
Anonymous
yeah and the film is about that choice and it's consequences, again you are a fricking moron
4 months ago
Anonymous
and the only smart one was anthony edwards.
he tapped the heck out.
>movie is called silence of the lambs >it's about lambs
I never thought about that, but is was the lambs in her head, wasn't it?
4 months ago
Anonymous
iirc its from the book where she got raped as a kid on a farm and there was a bunch of lambs around that didn't react. think the movie avoids all that though
4 months ago
Anonymous
I never did read the book
only remember very little dialect about it in the film
I remember the Dr. asking her if the rancher sodomized her and her answer was >no he was a very decent man
4 months ago
Anonymous
>rancher
her uncle iirc
4 months ago
Anonymous
Really? Even all these years later those lambs dont acknoweledge her rape? wtf is wrong with them?
4 months ago
Anonymous
she ate them with a shepherds pie and a nice ale
4 months ago
Anonymous
She wasn't raped in the book, she was just traumatized because as a child when she lived in a farm she would hear lambs crying out at night, when she went to see she what was going on she found the lambs being slaughtered, then she tried to run off with one of them. That's why she sees the victims as innocent lambs and has to save them
This guy had a basement! And, according to Zodiac the movie, not a lot of houses in California have basements! And let's not forget that his handwriting matched the handwriting in the letters. I'm sorry, but that's one coincidence too many -- this guy must have done it!
The killer was..society
Don't worry all the Fincher gays pretend to, go watch some better modern kino from Nolan or Snyder
>pretended to
what is there to pretend to get? it's about the zodiac killer and how the case affected the lives of some of the investigators. the killer was never caught so the movie ends with that. were you confused by the killer being portrayed by several different people/voices?
>modern kino from Nolan or Snyder
Stop
I watched this movie on a transatlantic airplane trip, it was good
>trans
>atlantic
>trip
gay
>airplane
>movie
It's a flick, max
the zodiac is le you
>Graysmith goes to a hardware store,
>he gets asked if he needs any help by an employee
>he says stares at the employee awkwardly says no then leaves.
Was the point of this scene to show Graysmith developing autism later in life? I just don't see why it was included either way.
I think it was supposed to be like "i know it's you but there is nothing i can do about it" he talks about looking the killer in the eyes to his wife in an earlier scene
that was the guy the cops had interviewed earlier that had several close ties to one or more of the victims, at one point there was a strong case he was the killer. jake wanted to meet him face to face and get the measure of him (ie try to determine if this man was a mass murderer).
It's about the frustration and limitation of '70s police procedure colliding face-first with a killer who covered his tracks well, wrapped up in a tight, suspenseful manhunt thriller
Fincher and Vanderbilt have their cake and eat it by directly accusing ALA through Graysmith
That's it
There was a guy I used to talk to that I met on Cinemaphile who hated this movie because the police didn't catch the Zodiac killer by the end of the movie. Thank you for reading my blog.
In the scenes with the Zodiac killer, he is played by 3 different actors. Leigh Arthur Allen's actor is not one of them. is this just a production quirk, or is it a clue from Fincher that he does not think Allen was the killer?
Allegedly they chose those three actors to exactly match the body proportions given by witnesses for each incident. Also in the last scene photo lineup, the guy who the witness says has the same head shape, but he's sure it's Allen, is a picture of one of these actors.
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not much to get really
just a shite film
simple as
... its not brilliant, but somehow I've seen it 5 times.
Good for sleeping.
this but the basement scene
I'm just not sure that 3 hours of boredom is worth it for the admittedly tense basement scene payoff.
the enjoyment is in the journey of fincher autistically recreating 70s california. the basement scene is just an exquisitely written and directed scene that stands out
>fincher autistically recreating 70s california
>dazed and confused but with a blue or grey filter
meh
you've had your brain rotted by marvel
I dont watch anything made by disney.
it was very very intense. that guy was just fricking with him right?
He was a gay guy and his grinder hookup was upstairs. The footsteps heard are from the bottom up top walking to a trash can to ejaculate into over the fantasy taking place and then cleaning up cum drops with toilet paper.
I got more of those cragslist killer type vibes
totally
So Arthur Lee Allen was the zodiac after all the whole time? Hmm. Really makes you think.
it might not have been him, there's like 2 other strong suspects for zodiac and I think Allen had an alibi for one of the killings and there was some other evidence that pointed to other suspects too
It's pretty irresponsible to all but say someone committed unsolved crimes decades ago simply because it provides an easy, effective ending.
Handwriting didn't match
Modern DNA tests didn't match
Evidence against ALA is overall pretty flimsy
There's not a single piece of conclusive evidence that points to Leigh Allen to being the Zodiac, everything was circumstantial and the movie does a poor job at showing the leaps in logic Graysmith makes, for example the birthday call that he kinda uses to tie everything togethat was a)confirmed not made in ALA's birthday but a few days later and b) confirmed to be made by the same schizo who called the tv show earlier in the movie, who is obviously not the zodiac, just some schizo
Is it irresponsible of the movie to point the finger at Arthur Allen? The movie all but tells you its him whereas IRL it's still pretty disputed
it's about how obsession can destroy people's lives, multiple people were obsessed with trying to find zodiac for years and it ruined them and their personal relationships, serial killers can have a wider effect on the area they operate in than just on the people they kill, they can affect everyone in the city to some extent
wasn't it some of those peoples jobs to find the multiple killers?
yeah, and their failure to do so ruined their lives, if you want another good example of this happening watch sons of Sam, about a journalist who spent decades trying to uncover the truth about the son of Sam killer and that he was part of a cult who all participated in the killings and were involved in other killings around the country, his obsession destroyed his marriage, his reputation and eventually drove him to become an alcoholic who died from his drinking, and he was probably right too but he could never find the one but of evidence that tied it all together and proved he was right
I do not care about their lives. I can do that IRL with people i know, not strangers.
then watch a different movie about something else then
no reason to.
you're trying to make me think I need to care about people doing their jobs and failing, thus destroying their own lives.
that, isn't my problem.
you don't have to care, go watch something else. that's what this movie is about
no it isn't. it's about whomst the zodiac is/is not and the people he killed. not the others that destroyed their lives because they were addicted to the allure of fame the zodiac and his art gave them.
>it's about whomst the zodiac is/is not and the people he killed
no it isn't, you missed the point of the film completely you brainlet
yes it is.
without the zodiac, those people were nothing.
can it not be about both? it's a film not a documentary.
as stated, it's about the zodiac(s) and the people they killed. if others chose to ruin their lives because of his art that is on them.
it's not about the zodiac or the people he killed, they're barely in it, it's about people investigating the case. you are moronic
>it's not about the zodiac
the name of the movie is literally
>Zodiac
>movie is called silence of the lambs
>it's about lambs
he clearly doesn't understand that
sure I do.
I also understand people CHOSE to ruin their own lives. no sympathy from me at all.
none. it's that simple.
yeah and the film is about that choice and it's consequences, again you are a fricking moron
and the only smart one was anthony edwards.
he tapped the heck out.
I never thought about that, but is was the lambs in her head, wasn't it?
iirc its from the book where she got raped as a kid on a farm and there was a bunch of lambs around that didn't react. think the movie avoids all that though
I never did read the book
only remember very little dialect about it in the film
I remember the Dr. asking her if the rancher sodomized her and her answer was
>no he was a very decent man
>rancher
her uncle iirc
Really? Even all these years later those lambs dont acknoweledge her rape? wtf is wrong with them?
she ate them with a shepherds pie and a nice ale
She wasn't raped in the book, she was just traumatized because as a child when she lived in a farm she would hear lambs crying out at night, when she went to see she what was going on she found the lambs being slaughtered, then she tried to run off with one of them. That's why she sees the victims as innocent lambs and has to save them
Everyone on this poster has been in capeshit
>movie set in late 60s about serial killer
>hurdy gurdy man by Donovan starts playing
what a garbage movie
he got tired of being married to marge
This guy had a basement! And, according to Zodiac the movie, not a lot of houses in California have basements! And let's not forget that his handwriting matched the handwriting in the letters. I'm sorry, but that's one coincidence too many -- this guy must have done it!
The real zodiac were the friends we made along the way.
Like unironically, that's what the movie is about.