The only point I took away was that it was just vignettes of a life someone lived, the random events and human wills of history that come and go. These people all suffered, had their triumphs, and now they’re gone and in the past together, we don’t even remember the details. Just the story of history going on. I thought the priest was weirdly cool in this too
There's not much to get. It's about greed and the pursuit of living beyond your means.
Read Kubrick's Napoleon script and you'll see that this entire film is just a cope for being unable to make that,
Isn't it ultimately about becoming a man? In the sense of taking responsibility for your actions and their consequences? Throughout the whole movie he's a coward and in the end accepts his fate?
“It was in the reign of George III that the aforesaid personages lived and quarreled; good or bad, handsome or ugly, rich or poor they are all equal now.”
They all danced the dance of life and now they're all gone. And nothing will get them back
When i was a kid i watched all sorts of films. All normie shit by the standards of the day, we didn't sit down to watch european arthouse films over our microwave dinners, but there was a lot of variety. This was the norm until the Marvel generation and it fostered a general cinematic literacy in people which now seems to be lost on zoomers. If you've only ever watched capeshit or films trying to be capeshit in order to be marketable, then you simply don't have the wider grammar to understand a normal film like Barry Lyndon. You ask yourself where are the people flying around smashing buildings? Where are the quips? The CGI? It makes no sense to you. Like someone hands you a book and says this is a great story, but you dom't know how pages work so you just stare at the cover and say "it's not that great". It's not just the monopolization of cinema, this has happened simultaneously withe the rise of tiktok and the like which generally reduces attention spans too. Add to that the fact that all zoomers are on mind clouding drugs and there's literally no hope for the future of longform art (and by longform I unfortunately mean a 2 hour investment of ones focus). Audio visual media will get faster and shorter and memes will get stupider and generations will return to barbarism. Perhaps then we can start again
There are some, there's always outliers. But that's not even what I'm talking about. I'm saying the standard for normies has slipped so far they can't enjoy a normal grown up drama. Arthouse is and always will be a niche interest, but it's terrifying that the majority of the generation could watch a straightforward birth to death historical drama and come away "not getting it". Zoomers don't watch straight drama. Or straight period pieces. Everything is high concept trash. A normal narrative about real lives set in the real world is alien to them and they "don't get it". This worries me because, although you can express abstract ideas in genre films and through high concept gimmicks, if you cannot express the same ideas in a straight fiction then what is even the point. A filmmaker wants to make a film about, idk, inequality or something, so they make a sci-fi about 2 races one that lords it over the other. But why not just actually make the film saying the actual thing you want to say? A proper film for grown ups set in a contemporary setting that explores how inequality manifests in their own worldly experience. It's because they don't really know what they want to say, they haven't fleshed it out enough to put it in a real world setting so they hide behind the fantastical where the ideological fallacies of whatever point they're trying to make take second place to pure spectacle. They don't have the grammar to know what they want to say. Like trying to write a novel if you don't read novels, it isn't going to work. We will never again have sophisticated normie mainstream films because mass culture has been stagnant for over 20 years now and it shows no signs of getting any better.
Kubrick saw a Zsigmond joint - I suspect it was McCabe and Mrs Miller - and decided to make a movie around the natural lighting gimmick. Little did he know that Almendros had been doing the same gimmick longer and better. Almendros was snatched by Malick for his Days of Heaven, a movie that is similar to Barry Lyndon but mogs it in every aspect.
The only point I took away was that it was just vignettes of a life someone lived, the random events and human wills of history that come and go. These people all suffered, had their triumphs, and now they’re gone and in the past together, we don’t even remember the details. Just the story of history going on. I thought the priest was weirdly cool in this too
What is there to get? It's kino
You have to watch these in order to understand it
There's not much to get. It's about greed and the pursuit of living beyond your means.
Read Kubrick's Napoleon script and you'll see that this entire film is just a cope for being unable to make that,
He was a piece of shit and died like one, that's the story.
Great movie
It's a character study, you can take whatever lesson you want from it but you're just watching the life of a certain kind of person.
Isn't it ultimately about becoming a man? In the sense of taking responsibility for your actions and their consequences? Throughout the whole movie he's a coward and in the end accepts his fate?
he’s fairly brave when he fires into the ground, and for once actually kind. he finally grows as a character but it’s too late
“It was in the reign of George III that the aforesaid personages lived and quarreled; good or bad, handsome or ugly, rich or poor they are all equal now.”
They all danced the dance of life and now they're all gone. And nothing will get them back
The IQ of this board plummets day by day. Better off browsing Reddit at this stage
Shut up redditor, OP is one of you
it's so fricking sad how true this is. the sheer moronation I see on here these days is shocking.
So true. I can’t tell if it’s bait anymore or the people are that dumb. Ridicule IMDb and Reddit then can’t even understand Barry Lyndon
When i was a kid i watched all sorts of films. All normie shit by the standards of the day, we didn't sit down to watch european arthouse films over our microwave dinners, but there was a lot of variety. This was the norm until the Marvel generation and it fostered a general cinematic literacy in people which now seems to be lost on zoomers. If you've only ever watched capeshit or films trying to be capeshit in order to be marketable, then you simply don't have the wider grammar to understand a normal film like Barry Lyndon. You ask yourself where are the people flying around smashing buildings? Where are the quips? The CGI? It makes no sense to you. Like someone hands you a book and says this is a great story, but you dom't know how pages work so you just stare at the cover and say "it's not that great". It's not just the monopolization of cinema, this has happened simultaneously withe the rise of tiktok and the like which generally reduces attention spans too. Add to that the fact that all zoomers are on mind clouding drugs and there's literally no hope for the future of longform art (and by longform I unfortunately mean a 2 hour investment of ones focus). Audio visual media will get faster and shorter and memes will get stupider and generations will return to barbarism. Perhaps then we can start again
I don't believe this. There are plenty of zoomers into arthouse films, and plenty of educated zoomers that recognize the ills of social media.
There are some, there's always outliers. But that's not even what I'm talking about. I'm saying the standard for normies has slipped so far they can't enjoy a normal grown up drama. Arthouse is and always will be a niche interest, but it's terrifying that the majority of the generation could watch a straightforward birth to death historical drama and come away "not getting it". Zoomers don't watch straight drama. Or straight period pieces. Everything is high concept trash. A normal narrative about real lives set in the real world is alien to them and they "don't get it". This worries me because, although you can express abstract ideas in genre films and through high concept gimmicks, if you cannot express the same ideas in a straight fiction then what is even the point. A filmmaker wants to make a film about, idk, inequality or something, so they make a sci-fi about 2 races one that lords it over the other. But why not just actually make the film saying the actual thing you want to say? A proper film for grown ups set in a contemporary setting that explores how inequality manifests in their own worldly experience. It's because they don't really know what they want to say, they haven't fleshed it out enough to put it in a real world setting so they hide behind the fantastical where the ideological fallacies of whatever point they're trying to make take second place to pure spectacle. They don't have the grammar to know what they want to say. Like trying to write a novel if you don't read novels, it isn't going to work. We will never again have sophisticated normie mainstream films because mass culture has been stagnant for over 20 years now and it shows no signs of getting any better.
to;dr
precisely my point
The entirety of the movie can be summed up with the Bullingdon duel and these morons cant even understand that
Kubrick saw a Zsigmond joint - I suspect it was McCabe and Mrs Miller - and decided to make a movie around the natural lighting gimmick. Little did he know that Almendros had been doing the same gimmick longer and better. Almendros was snatched by Malick for his Days of Heaven, a movie that is similar to Barry Lyndon but mogs it in every aspect.
Why is it named this when it’s not about the 1964 election between Barry Goldwater and Lyndon Johnson?
You sure it's not?
>Karma's a b***h
That about sums it up
Well if it was so great ho come there's no Barry Lyndon 2, amirite?
Well, I guess The Duellists is a thing. God, what awesome fricking movies these two are.
DUUUUUN DUUUUUUN
dun DUUUUUUN DUUUUUN
*doo deedle doo*
DUUUUUUUUN DUUUUUUN
dun DUUUUUUUN DUUUUUN
barry is a prostitute, selling himself to powerful men
he marries a woman but it obviously doesn't work out and then he's too old to do any more whoring
You are homosexual
bring ass movie
He gave it his best shot, but it didn't pan out.
4 Oscars.
We all know about Barry Lyndon, but are there any “The Duellists” chads in the thread?