He's a psycho in a world of other psychos. Thing is, he was too naive to realize everyone else were psychos. The detective purposefully played dumb. The final reveal is at the end with the lawyer. Another reveal are his two workmates talking about Reagan on TV they say something along the lines of " he does it so well, huh?". Implying reagan too is part of the psychos.
Basically it's just the system is run by psychos for psychos. Carlin said it best.
"They're in a club and you're not in it"
the only person you can argue was covering up the crimes was the real estate lady and even that is questionable
"everyone was just covering for him" requires you to completely discard major themes in the movie like mistaken identity, isolation, and self centeredness in favor of "well they all fully knew about the murders but they're all psychos so they cover for him because reasons"
reagan scene is not even in the book and is thrown in at the end of the movie to juxtapose the friendly mr. rogers esque exterior with a more sinister and cold interior. To suggest that it is there to indicate the presence of a sinister cabal of murdering elites including but not limited to the police force, investment bankers, and the president of the united states, all collaborating with one another to cover up the murders of some schmuck who isn't even aware of it's existence is beyond schizo
The detective literally invents an alibi for him in the diner scene you moron. He knew Bateman was guilty, but he was trying to teach him how to get his lying straight.
Bateman confesses his crimes to the lawyer and the lawyer just chuckles because he doesn't give a shit.
>reagan scene is not even in the book and is thrown in at the end of the movie
Who gives a shit about the book, this is about the movie. It's heavily implied reagan is part of the psycho class.
Your take is worse than my you homosexual.
Jesus I guess he was. My apologies to
the only person you can argue was covering up the crimes was the real estate lady and even that is questionable
"everyone was just covering for him" requires you to completely discard major themes in the movie like mistaken identity, isolation, and self centeredness in favor of "well they all fully knew about the murders but they're all psychos so they cover for him because reasons"
reagan scene is not even in the book and is thrown in at the end of the movie to juxtapose the friendly mr. rogers esque exterior with a more sinister and cold interior. To suggest that it is there to indicate the presence of a sinister cabal of murdering elites including but not limited to the police force, investment bankers, and the president of the united states, all collaborating with one another to cover up the murders of some schmuck who isn't even aware of it's existence is beyond schizo
The detective literally invents an alibi for him in the diner scene you moron. He knew Bateman was guilty, but he was trying to teach him how to get his lying straight.
Bateman confesses his crimes to the lawyer and the lawyer just chuckles because he doesn't give a shit.
>reagan scene is not even in the book and is thrown in at the end of the movie
Who gives a shit about the book, this is about the movie. It's heavily implied reagan is part of the psycho class.
whoever told him Bateman was at a dinner the time of the murders got him mixed up with someone else because they all look the exact same (same barber, oliver peoples glasses, exact same job title, identical business cards) and are all shallow vapid c**ts who don't care about anyone else to the point of where they don't even know who is who
this happens countless times in the movie with bateman, paul allen, the detective, the lawyer, bateman's girlfriend, the two girls he kills, and many many more. It happens multiple times in the opening scene alone and occurs so frequently throughout the movie that I can't even list them all.
why would the cop even cover for him what reason does he have?? Because bateman is a rich investment banker? Paul Allen has the same job and is even more rich and successful. And even if the cop wanted to cover for him he would have just rolled with the initial "so and so had lunch with him in london but he wasn't sure if it was him" alibi with no need to pursue it any further than that
reagan is "heavily implied" to be part of a secret psycho class because of a throwaway comment made by a character about how full of shit reagan is??? Yeah that's called projecting your schizo ramblings
Everything in your take is just you ignoring major plot points and evidence in the movie in favor of "uhhh well they're in a club and you're not in it"
literally the "it was all in his head and none of the murders were real" take is more valid than yours. At least that addresses the question of whether some or all of the murders happened or not but I guess the ATM and the exploding handgun rounds are part of the psycho ruling class too
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Anonymous
I find it hilarious you're bugged out that the rich and powerful ruling class doesn't purposely evade major crimes.
There is so much evidence of Batemans crimes. Even at the end when he at the resturant and is openly doodling murdering the frick out of someone and his pyscho girlfriend doesn't care.
You know who does care? The normie secretary. She's the only one crying at the end because she's not part of the pyschos. She realizes how fricked up everything is and Bateman will not be punished for it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
only thing you missed is the secretary is part of the psychos too. She is crying at the end because she usually has a psycho train ran on her daily by bateman, van patten, and bryce but it wasn't going to happen that day since bateman wasn't going to make it into the office (just say no)
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The stuff with the secretary finding the notebook with the crazy serial killer drawing shit was original to the movie. It's not in the book.
In the book, Bateman makes a clean break from his fiance and hooks up with the secretary. The implication being that she's not stuck up and when they do shit like sneak into Dorsia under another person's reservation and get caught/have to dine dash, she doesn't get angry or throw a fit, but treats it like an adventure and thanks Patrick for a wonderful time.
And in the Bateman Letters (a novella Ellis wrote to promote the movie) we find out that Bateman married the secretary and she immediately turns into a spoiled, materialistic b***h after they wed and Bateman ultimately bails on her but agrees to her alimony demands in exchange for her dumping her new boyfriend/staying single and giving him anytime he wants contact with his son.
the only person you can argue was covering up the crimes was the real estate lady and even that is questionable
"everyone was just covering for him" requires you to completely discard major themes in the movie like mistaken identity, isolation, and self centeredness in favor of "well they all fully knew about the murders but they're all psychos so they cover for him because reasons"
reagan scene is not even in the book and is thrown in at the end of the movie to juxtapose the friendly mr. rogers esque exterior with a more sinister and cold interior. To suggest that it is there to indicate the presence of a sinister cabal of murdering elites including but not limited to the police force, investment bankers, and the president of the united states, all collaborating with one another to cover up the murders of some schmuck who isn't even aware of it's existence is beyond schizo
>"everyone was just covering for him" requires you to completely discard major themes in the movie like mistaken identity, isolation, and self centeredness
No? Those aren't mutually exclusive at all.
Killing lowlives won't make you happy. First time is amazing and gives you a really good dopamine rush, but it gets weaker after every kill. Sooner or later you'll hit rock bottom and find yourself killing homeless people in some dirty alleyway just to feel normal. It's not worth it to choose that route. Be a better man.
Who is the guy in the knife reflection? It can't be Bale but it looks like it's matches his face and expression. Does the weird impossible reflection represent the fractured mind of Bale's character?
Bateman is a psychopath who doesn’t understand how to be human , all he knows are “performances” that he copies from other people in an attempt to fit in with everyone else. Christian Bale describes him as an alien crash landing into 80s America and trying to pass as human. This is why he’s so over the top - everything he does is performative, an attempt to convince us, the people around them, and himself that he’s a regular human being
While it is obvious to us that he acts and speaks unnaturally, the punchline of the movie is that everyone in the society he lives in (especially his coworkers at Wall Street) is so self-absorbed and detached from one another that Bateman, despite being a clear psychopath, fits in just fine. No one recognizes each other or knows each other and everyone confuses each other for different people all the time, to the point where no one even knows Allen was murdered in the end and Bateman’s own lawyer falsely believed he met Allen. Everyone is superficial, so in the end everyone is virtually interchangeable - they are all, in their own way also just giving a performance to fit in, just like Bateman. This is why Bateman says in the end that what’s inside ultimately doesn’t matter
This naturally flew over the heads of modern audiences, who want to be like Bateman because he’s a sigma male
People actually think thay the other characters were aware of, and actively covering for the mc's antics, including several murders and one shotting a police car with a pistol?
The book is just a series of autistic lists of cool and stylish 80s stuff mixed with horrible graphic descriptions of depraved violence and violent sex. It's a huge shitpost written by a young gay cokehead alcoholic about 80s consoomer culture and the casual attitude towards violence that existed then.
Nutjob yuppie may or may not be a serial killer. What's not to get?
he's a psycho who happens to be american
>"You didn't know Paul? I'm the American psycho"
Chills
He's a psycho in a world of other psychos. Thing is, he was too naive to realize everyone else were psychos. The detective purposefully played dumb. The final reveal is at the end with the lawyer. Another reveal are his two workmates talking about Reagan on TV they say something along the lines of " he does it so well, huh?". Implying reagan too is part of the psychos.
Basically it's just the system is run by psychos for psychos. Carlin said it best.
"They're in a club and you're not in it"
worst take I've ever read
Then please share your so enlightened ideas on why everyone covers for him even though they know all his crimes.
the only person you can argue was covering up the crimes was the real estate lady and even that is questionable
"everyone was just covering for him" requires you to completely discard major themes in the movie like mistaken identity, isolation, and self centeredness in favor of "well they all fully knew about the murders but they're all psychos so they cover for him because reasons"
reagan scene is not even in the book and is thrown in at the end of the movie to juxtapose the friendly mr. rogers esque exterior with a more sinister and cold interior. To suggest that it is there to indicate the presence of a sinister cabal of murdering elites including but not limited to the police force, investment bankers, and the president of the united states, all collaborating with one another to cover up the murders of some schmuck who isn't even aware of it's existence is beyond schizo
I don't think Anon was implying that they all knew about or were covering up his murders
Jesus I guess he was. My apologies to
Then why did he say and I quote
"everyone covers for him even though they know all his crimes"
The detective literally invents an alibi for him in the diner scene you moron. He knew Bateman was guilty, but he was trying to teach him how to get his lying straight.
Bateman confesses his crimes to the lawyer and the lawyer just chuckles because he doesn't give a shit.
>reagan scene is not even in the book and is thrown in at the end of the movie
Who gives a shit about the book, this is about the movie. It's heavily implied reagan is part of the psycho class.
Your take is worse than my you homosexual.
whoever told him Bateman was at a dinner the time of the murders got him mixed up with someone else because they all look the exact same (same barber, oliver peoples glasses, exact same job title, identical business cards) and are all shallow vapid c**ts who don't care about anyone else to the point of where they don't even know who is who
this happens countless times in the movie with bateman, paul allen, the detective, the lawyer, bateman's girlfriend, the two girls he kills, and many many more. It happens multiple times in the opening scene alone and occurs so frequently throughout the movie that I can't even list them all.
why would the cop even cover for him what reason does he have?? Because bateman is a rich investment banker? Paul Allen has the same job and is even more rich and successful. And even if the cop wanted to cover for him he would have just rolled with the initial "so and so had lunch with him in london but he wasn't sure if it was him" alibi with no need to pursue it any further than that
reagan is "heavily implied" to be part of a secret psycho class because of a throwaway comment made by a character about how full of shit reagan is??? Yeah that's called projecting your schizo ramblings
Everything in your take is just you ignoring major plot points and evidence in the movie in favor of "uhhh well they're in a club and you're not in it"
literally the "it was all in his head and none of the murders were real" take is more valid than yours. At least that addresses the question of whether some or all of the murders happened or not but I guess the ATM and the exploding handgun rounds are part of the psycho ruling class too
I find it hilarious you're bugged out that the rich and powerful ruling class doesn't purposely evade major crimes.
There is so much evidence of Batemans crimes. Even at the end when he at the resturant and is openly doodling murdering the frick out of someone and his pyscho girlfriend doesn't care.
You know who does care? The normie secretary. She's the only one crying at the end because she's not part of the pyschos. She realizes how fricked up everything is and Bateman will not be punished for it.
only thing you missed is the secretary is part of the psychos too. She is crying at the end because she usually has a psycho train ran on her daily by bateman, van patten, and bryce but it wasn't going to happen that day since bateman wasn't going to make it into the office (just say no)
The stuff with the secretary finding the notebook with the crazy serial killer drawing shit was original to the movie. It's not in the book.
In the book, Bateman makes a clean break from his fiance and hooks up with the secretary. The implication being that she's not stuck up and when they do shit like sneak into Dorsia under another person's reservation and get caught/have to dine dash, she doesn't get angry or throw a fit, but treats it like an adventure and thanks Patrick for a wonderful time.
And in the Bateman Letters (a novella Ellis wrote to promote the movie) we find out that Bateman married the secretary and she immediately turns into a spoiled, materialistic b***h after they wed and Bateman ultimately bails on her but agrees to her alimony demands in exchange for her dumping her new boyfriend/staying single and giving him anytime he wants contact with his son.
True.
>"everyone was just covering for him" requires you to completely discard major themes in the movie like mistaken identity, isolation, and self centeredness
No? Those aren't mutually exclusive at all.
I got it easily
on my first watch
Consumerism bad
it's just a fun self insert as a rich handsome murderer kino
Killing lowlives won't make you happy. First time is amazing and gives you a really good dopamine rush, but it gets weaker after every kill. Sooner or later you'll hit rock bottom and find yourself killing homeless people in some dirty alleyway just to feel normal. It's not worth it to choose that route. Be a better man.
The book is worth reading it’s pretty funny he kills a kid at the zoo and there’s a really gory scene where he’s boiling some women to eat
Who is the guy in the knife reflection? It can't be Bale but it looks like it's matches his face and expression. Does the weird impossible reflection represent the fractured mind of Bale's character?
Bateman is a psychopath who doesn’t understand how to be human , all he knows are “performances” that he copies from other people in an attempt to fit in with everyone else. Christian Bale describes him as an alien crash landing into 80s America and trying to pass as human. This is why he’s so over the top - everything he does is performative, an attempt to convince us, the people around them, and himself that he’s a regular human being
While it is obvious to us that he acts and speaks unnaturally, the punchline of the movie is that everyone in the society he lives in (especially his coworkers at Wall Street) is so self-absorbed and detached from one another that Bateman, despite being a clear psychopath, fits in just fine. No one recognizes each other or knows each other and everyone confuses each other for different people all the time, to the point where no one even knows Allen was murdered in the end and Bateman’s own lawyer falsely believed he met Allen. Everyone is superficial, so in the end everyone is virtually interchangeable - they are all, in their own way also just giving a performance to fit in, just like Bateman. This is why Bateman says in the end that what’s inside ultimately doesn’t matter
This naturally flew over the heads of modern audiences, who want to be like Bateman because he’s a sigma male
People actually think thay the other characters were aware of, and actively covering for the mc's antics, including several murders and one shotting a police car with a pistol?
The book is just a series of autistic lists of cool and stylish 80s stuff mixed with horrible graphic descriptions of depraved violence and violent sex. It's a huge shitpost written by a young gay cokehead alcoholic about 80s consoomer culture and the casual attitude towards violence that existed then.
The broadway musical version is superior.
>I don't get it
Get what? A reservation at Dorsia?
They kind of left it ambiguous, so you have to watch the sequel to understand what really happened.