I assume Hoss was dry heaving because he's realized the gravity of what he's been a part of while also being fearful that the Soviets are getting close and all is basically lost including the future of his family.
>the people that they tried to erase from the face of the earth will actually be remembered by future generations >meanwhile he and the rest of his kind will plummet into a black void of sickness
it wasn't that hard to get, tbh
At first glance I agree, but the way the flashforward is presented is what throws me off. Why the footage with janitors cleaning off the exhibits? Is this supposed to be parallel Hoss's routine as commandant or not?
>Why the footage with janitors cleaning off the exhibits? Is this supposed to be parallel Hoss's routine as commandant or not?
most definitely so or at least i thought the same, the director showed off actual jannies at work in order to say that in a twisted way, we're also complicit in being indifferent to horrors in front of our eyes
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At first glance I agree, but the way the flashforward is presented is what throws me off. Why the footage with janitors cleaning off the exhibits? Is this supposed to be parallel Hoss's routine as commandant or not?
I think it's supposed to show him "looking into the future" and seeing what eventually became of it.
That there is now a museum dedicated to paying respect to people that he killed, and that his side eventually lost.
I think it's also supposed to be a silent opportunity for him to see the gravity of what he's done, i.e. all the shoes and luggage packed into a single room.
And yeah, it also parallels how mechanically he and his team worked. There are people who go to work every day to take care of an exhibit about people who he, every day, went to work to "take care of".
>the people that they tried to erase from the face of the earth will actually be remembered by future generations >meanwhile he and the rest of his kind will plummet into a black void of sickness
loud deep bassy sounds randomly, empty scenery scenes for prolonged periods, entire red screen for what 20 seconds, the ending
and WOAH now that's what I call cinema. this isn't like my capeshit this is REAL cinema
His descent into darkness?
I assume Hoss was dry heaving because he's realized the gravity of what he's been a part of while also being fearful that the Soviets are getting close and all is basically lost including the future of his family.
At first glance I agree, but the way the flashforward is presented is what throws me off. Why the footage with janitors cleaning off the exhibits? Is this supposed to be parallel Hoss's routine as commandant or not?
>Why the footage with janitors cleaning off the exhibits? Is this supposed to be parallel Hoss's routine as commandant or not?
most definitely so or at least i thought the same, the director showed off actual jannies at work in order to say that in a twisted way, we're also complicit in being indifferent to horrors in front of our eyes
a commandant wouldn't clean a single thing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing
Same. I thought it was supposed to convey that eventually atrocities become background "noise" (for lack of a better word) for everyone.
I think it's supposed to show him "looking into the future" and seeing what eventually became of it.
That there is now a museum dedicated to paying respect to people that he killed, and that his side eventually lost.
I think it's also supposed to be a silent opportunity for him to see the gravity of what he's done, i.e. all the shoes and luggage packed into a single room.
And yeah, it also parallels how mechanically he and his team worked. There are people who go to work every day to take care of an exhibit about people who he, every day, went to work to "take care of".
>the people that they tried to erase from the face of the earth will actually be remembered by future generations
>meanwhile he and the rest of his kind will plummet into a black void of sickness
it wasn't that hard to get, tbh
I really hated the modern day stuff. Just felt very cliche and obvious.
i would agree with you if the movie ended on that but the hard cut back to hoss going down the stairs made the ending kino.
true but without an ounce of sympathy.
>this shit tried too hard
ironic because the movie's great especially because it doesn't "try hard" at all
The overnight sequence was the high point for me.
i'll cheat and say that for me, it was the flowers scene
I mean he and the Nazis will be remembered as much as the victims
this shit tried too hard but undoubtedly HAS to get rave reviews (otherwise you're antisemitic)
Me neither, but I’ve also never watched this movie
loud deep bassy sounds randomly, empty scenery scenes for prolonged periods, entire red screen for what 20 seconds, the ending
and WOAH now that's what I call cinema. this isn't like my capeshit this is REAL cinema
He breathed in too many burnt israelite fumes and probably has cancer
Do they show the maternity ward and orchestra?
>apple landing zones spotted, firing now
When do you think the germans knew the war was lost?
The moment they lost the Eastern front they should have known they were doomed
Most definitely Stalingrad, but I think the failure to take Moscow was the point when they started doubting about its success.
>babies first graphic design class assignment
They movie said everything it set out to say in the first five minutes or so, then it just kept doing the same thing over and over...
Nah the stuff with the mother and the Poles added some additional texture.
Yeah but barely and not decisively. It just ends up being monotone.