I don't know how to criticize things or do reviews, but I would like to learn how.
Tell me what is good and bad about last knight on earth? I just read it but can't really say anything about it on my own.
I did enjoy it, but mostly purely for the action, setting and art.
About the plot I can't tell. There were a couple of things I didn't get without reading from a wiki what happened (luthor/superman argument conclusion).
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>I don't know how to criticize things or do reviews, but I would like to learn how.
> I just read it but can't really say anything about it on my own.
You sound like someone who's ready for the big league, son!
If you're not sure if you liked and it's been a while, you probably didn't like it.
I did like it, but just in a childish "so cool" kinda way. I don't know about the meaning, the tones, the morals or anything. It was just a cool comic. Only thing bad I got was that it was at times confusing, but it wasn't the comic's fault.
Then talk about the moments that stood out to you, even after reading it. Like which characters you liked, disliked, what visuals you enjoyed, what dialogues stuck with you, what parts you struggled with understanding, even just what ideas you'd like to see used elsewhere. You don't always have to be fancy in regards to critique, you just have to pass along your experiences in a way that others can grasp.
The more you read and analyze, the more you'll pick up on those things. As you do this, you will begin to narrow down to stuff you actually like. You may still have the different camps of things you like for different reasons.
How do you analyze effectively? I have just binged through tons of old comics, and read limited series' here and there and have same problems/ideas. Doomsday clock, emperor joker, dark knights metal/death metal. All cool and fun to read but had problems understanding and had to resolve to wikis and reviews to straighten the plots out.
Read prose as well. Watch movies. Get into paintings? I don't really know, but I think it helps to observe how these mediums are analyzed. Then apply some of those analyses to comics, but know that it's a different medium from all of them. Enjoy yourself all the while. You'll start to notice patterns and structures, gimmicks, cliches.
I've been doing these things for many years now, and I still find new angles, interpretations, etc. all the time.
What value is your review going to have if you don't have an opinion on the subject material?
Figure out the things you like/dislike (if you can, explain why; if not that's fine to start), take some notes, present your piece.
>Tell me what is good and bad about last knight on earth
No that's YOUR JOB, it's YOUR review. YOU tell us. Don't worry about being succinct, or funny, or interesting, that will come with experience. Just be honest and keep at it.
I'm most concerned that with my lack of understanding I am missing loads of things in comics/other media and therefore only be getting a fraction of the meant value. And I could never converse about them with others since I am not on the same level.
>No that's YOUR JOB, it's YOUR review. YOU tell us.
I was thinking that I could compare what others think to what I observed and maybe open up a bit since alone I don't know what is going on.
>I'm most concerned that with my lack of understanding I am missing loads of things
>I was thinking that I could compare what others think to what I observed
Holy shit dude, you didn't heed any of my advice, and you sound like you want everyone to do your homework for you.
You need to open the conversation by presenting your opinion FIRST.
I'm feeling charitable today, so I'll do you a solid and ctrl-c and ctrl-v together your smatterings of ideas.
>last knight on earth? I just read it
>I did enjoy it, but mostly purely for the action, setting and art.
>I did like it, but just in a childish "so cool" kinda way. It was just a cool comic.
>Only thing bad I got was that it was at times confusing
BOOM, there you go. First draft of first review done. I'd recommend fleshing out these ideas. Describe the action, setting, and art if you enjoyed those things. What aspects of the action did you enjoy? How did the setting chosen by the creators influence the story? What did you like about the art?(This one's tough, art is subjective.) Go over the things you found confusing, specifically, so that others interested in your conversation have some launching points.
Somebody was already receptive and gave their opinions already; hopefully you framing your ideas correctly will encourage others.
As for myself: I didn't read this, I dislike Batman & Joker.
>Holy shit dude, you didn't heed any of my advice, and you sound like you want everyone to do your homework for you.
Sorry if it came out like that, didn't mean to ditch your advice (truthfully I haven't understood your advice completely either). And I was more thinking in terms of a text book example and notes instead of a homework. Just someones ideas on the subject to compare things, I tried to google reviews and with a quick search I found just "plot is x, it was great, I love Snyder".
I wasn't also planning on actually publishing reviews, just to understand how they are made so I can think and analyze the comics more on my own to understand them more deeply. Now I'm on such a surface level experience it embarasses me. I know there are more things but I don't see or connect with them. That's why it's hard to differentiate bad comics from good since it's all just the pretty pictures and big powerlevels.
Honestly man if none of this thread is you just trolling then you may genuinely not have the intellectual capacity required for critical analysis of anything. It’s okay to just enjoy things but if you want to analyze things you need to have some sort of functional grasp of media in general.
If you’re underage go to some community college classes on media, whether it be a film or literature class, to learn more about criticism and analysis. If you’re a bit older then, while it’s never “too late”, you might have never been in the position to do so because you simply aren’t geared toward that. Consume and ignore what others say about media in general, your enjoyment is all that matters and in some ways that’s a gift in and of itself.
When it comes to media analysis and criticism over time it cases one to become pretty cynical and nitpicky.
It causes one*
This. Media analysis is just one angle of enjoying a medium, and sometimes it's good to just have the ability to articulate what you liked about something and stand by it instead of interrogating it under every possible angle under the sun. A car's not any less useful just because you aren't hyper-aware of its prior history nor the chemical composition of all its components.
Good place to start
Wrong anon but also I’d not suggest he start with Mccloud, frankly I think that boom is terribly overrated. With such a low level of familiarity with media in general he’s better off reading and watching more and then picking up eisner’s instructional series instead.
>Honestly man if none of this thread is you just trolling
I am not trolling, sadly. I am most likely just so moronic, but also I have no experience since I haven't conversed about any media with other people in like 15 years. I'm 30 now. I'm afraid of people online since you know so much and don't have people irl to talk to.
>When it comes to media analysis and criticism over time it cases one to become pretty cynical and nitpicky.
But how am I supposed to talk to other comicbook readers when all I can say is "superman strong, so cool that he flies" and everyone else is talking about the politics of Gotham and how plotpoint x was moronic because Batman would do y instead.
>But how am I supposed to talk to other comicbook readers
I told you:
>Consume and ignore what others say about media in genera
I'd still like to be able to talk to people and have friends with same interests. I don't understand how it is so hard for me and so easy for everyone else over 10 years old. There's just nothing beyond the pages, it's just text and pictures.
I thought it was absolutely horrible. Just more of Snyder returning to his COO well and drawing more rancid water from what is already an extremely overrated yet mostly forgotten story. Capullo is washed up and the whole thing just felt lazy and phoned in.
Why the frick was there a baby superman?
Why the frick was there an useless supergirl?
Why the frick did DC ever think Scott Snyder was worth keeping around?
Probably because of Lex's efforts to bring a new Superman to save Earth finally working right at the end of the story.
How the frick did Batman survive after getting shit beaten out of him and hks tongue ripped out in a world that wants to just kill him
Haven't read but I bet it's just
>Batman Kills Everyone: The Complete Collection Volume 1
I liked the Silver Age gone wrong premise of humanity choosing doom, but it does get a little excessive. I do have to respect the ending though, the heroes just unequivocally winning at the end despite the hell earth had been through was nice.
This doesn’t describe last knight on earth’s plot in any way lol
why does american comic have to feature the supposed white male lead getting rescued or beaten up by female characters and never features them defeating female characters in fights or rescue them
every comic has this woke mandate which is why nobody buys comics anymore
I own that one hardcover.
Good: Basically DC's Old Man Logan, weird ideas, the great art of Capullo, the edge (if you like that thing)... and I'm VERY sure the Snyder Cut was inspired by this thing in the last 30 minutes.
Bad: As usual, it requires some background knowledge about previous events (which was the ultimate downfall of the Dark Knights storyline) and who characters are and what their powers are, which makes it less of a standalone. The story is based on an event in Nu 52.
>The story is based on an event in Nu 52
What event?