Like 99% of jobs are soul crushing in one way or another, but as someone who has worked both manual labor and office jobs, there is something truly dread-instilling about corporate office work >constant supervision from people who get paid 3x your salary just to make sure you're doing your job >constant 'team huddles' and shit like that filled with absolute meaningless nonsense and vague semi-warnings of 'work harder or else' >HR does literally nothing but process PTO requests and talk shit about every single person in the office >boomer boss who's worked there 30 years only comes in 3 days a week but writes you up for showing up 5 minutes late regardless of the cause >"on time is late, 15 minutes early is on time, 30 minutes early is early" >mandatory nonsensical reports and bureaucratic bullshit that do absolutely nothing and are thrown out as soon as you submit them
I think it's the supervision that got me the most. At one job I was in a department that was just me, another guy, and a manager, and the manager's main job was just to sit in his office, listen to 70s rock, and monitor our computer screens over screen sharing to make sure we were always working.
> monitor our computer screens over screen sharing to make sure we were always working
that’s so fricked. i’d quit. i’ve always had a wfh job and all they ask is that we log our hours.
>. i’ve always had a wfh job
What is it? Probably programming. I've wanted a remote job since 2019. That was before 5 years of factory wagecucking waking up at the crack of dawn and getting 5 hours of sleep and hating existence. I don't know if I can even recover from the brain damage and dissociation anymore. I just want to work remotely and cancel everything. Buy a tiny house and have groceries delivered once a week and never give a frick again. I have a girlfriend but she's probably gonna dump me when she finds out how much I say homosexual and Black person and troony at home despite having chink israelite and black friends.
the problem is they still need someone to do this, as the WFH shit just showed. all you gays complaining about being monitored turning around on the spot and going "lel i got a mouse jiggler and i do nothing and get paid all day"
The joke of it all is that things still get done, whatever they are. I sometimes frick around and then I'll cram nights just so everything's done on time. Maybe I'm the lazy outlier, but I remember spending hours drinking coffee or smoking cigs with the guys in front of the office as well and that was fine.
>work in office >have to look busy for 8 hours even if you're meeting quotas >work from home >have to get mouse jiggler to look busy >get monitoring software on computer >type slower to look busy
Or. OR! Boomer bosses could stop trying to run office jobs like a coal mine.
your output should be all that matters. all this screen logging and mouse jiggling is just holdovers from boomer business ideas that wages depend on time working not the actual product of the work. I work from home and no one cares what I'm doing as long as I produce results in a reasonable time for a reasonable amount of money.
Had a job like this too. Boss was never in but had some sort of surveillance system which allowed her to spy on the employees and write them up if they sat down or busted their phone out for a moment.
As an autist, the female gossip circles made working in the office extremely painful for me. Luckily I'm a man so they only expected token participation and I could mostly avoid it without negative consequences. I've heard from female autists that it's even worse for them to work in these environments, because the c**ts will immediately turn on you if you don't play their game. Such a miserable environment. I've been working from home since covid and will never go back if I can help it. Who the frick needs to hear fat ugly b***hes nitpicking people all day?
The female gossip circle got my entire department into trouble months ago. They could not feasibly bring 5 women into a room and yell at them so they had to collect up the entire department and yell at everyone equally for spreading rumors and harming company morale.
I used to do IT support for a company and one of our clients got me to install monitoring software on everyone's PC without them knowing
It'd take screenshots every few minutes or when you did something, imagine if your boss could see you on some Cinemaphile troony thread holy shit, the whole thing made me a bit paranoid about work laptops so I've never gone on Cinemaphile on one just in case they were pulling shit like that
When I was in middle school, my dad let me use his work laptop for school work and I went on /d/. A few days later he informed me that his laptop was monitored and history logged. He didn't look me in the eyes when telling me this and didn't talk to me much for a week or so after.
>>d
Had no idea what that was, been on this shitty website for a decade and never gone beyond lit, tv, ck, and out, plus some of the nsfw boards. I’d never dream of going on Cinemaphile using work equipment and I’ve never connected to any of my jobs’ wifi with my personal phone/laptop for paranoid reasons.
I work in IT and do the same because I've seen and used the network monitoring tools where you see all the packets of data they hoover up. I wouldn't be surprised if there's some filter that narrows all the packets down to the word "Black person".
just don't use vpn and if there are corp sniffers block them. sure you should use your own device but I've never had a personal laptop and it turns out the older i get less i can spend at my own desk.
I work IT in a school and just personally rolled out this client for safeguarding which is essentially a keylogger. If you type something it doesn't like it'll screenshot the page you typed it on and send us a list of the window names you've had open for the past hour.
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that software has been around for ages, I'm sure. they had them in 2008 when I was still at school. I remember the IT janny reporting me to the head of year for looking at memes on numerous occasions.
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Oh we had the standard filters before, but that was only when you're on our network. This reports back to Big Brother wherever you are.
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I swear a lot in my notes when I get frustrated so it's funny to think of someone seeing hundreds of screenshots of me calling compound annuities a fricking c**tbiscuit
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>redditor cursing
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Rent free
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That shit is for the pastoral women to trawl through.
We just laugh at staff getting flagged for visiting swingers sites.
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that also just reminded me of a time my dad worked in reviewing care homes for kids with super autism etc. anyway, one of the kids kept sneaking out, going to the library and watching furry porn. I had to explain to my dad what rule 34 was and furry porn, which he then had to do a presentation on to try and help the autism guy
>It'd take screenshots every few minutes or when you did something,
I always wonder about my work computer doing something similar. Every so often the screen goes black for a second then comes back. If I'm listening to music when the it comes back from the black-out the volume is louder.
>I've never gone on Cinemaphile on one
you would have to be the biggest fricking idiot moron ever. i work for the government and i cannot imagine using my work devices for anything but work. they are public record.
I assume every company does something like that anyway, but the screenshot thing is a little creepy to me. I am guessing that only helps when they take several screenshots in a row and it shows the person browsing reddit or twitter over the past two hours.
Can't relate; been a retail wagecuck, manual laborer, and cubicle worker,. Gimme that cube any day of the week. A climate controlled space where I can get up and walk away for ten or fifteen minutes with weekends and holidays off is the breasts and I'll never go back.
Like 99% of jobs are soul crushing in one way or another, but as someone who has worked both manual labor and office jobs, there is something truly dread-instilling about corporate office work >constant supervision from people who get paid 3x your salary just to make sure you're doing your job >constant 'team huddles' and shit like that filled with absolute meaningless nonsense and vague semi-warnings of 'work harder or else' >HR does literally nothing but process PTO requests and talk shit about every single person in the office >boomer boss who's worked there 30 years only comes in 3 days a week but writes you up for showing up 5 minutes late regardless of the cause >"on time is late, 15 minutes early is on time, 30 minutes early is early" >mandatory nonsensical reports and bureaucratic bullshit that do absolutely nothing and are thrown out as soon as you submit them
I think it's the supervision that got me the most. At one job I was in a department that was just me, another guy, and a manager, and the manager's main job was just to sit in his office, listen to 70s rock, and monitor our computer screens over screen sharing to make sure we were always working.
unskilled labor bros take the grouphome/animal shelter pill >can get comfy job working with emotionally disturbed autism bros where you just cook for them and get to witness their bizarre behavior >virtually no supervision >can read/game/sleep if you like >easy to get promotions
my last boss was really handsoff and let us do what we wanted, and he had a side business he owned since the hours for the group home were so flexible for him
I have a job very similar to this. Small team, boomer POS boss who contradicts himself constantly and then shits on you when you didnt guess the right direction he gave, and he talks over you if you try to point it out.
Constant bullshit project management shit for long term 'initiatives', have to harass operational colleagues with my buzzword corporatespeak presentations, with both of us knowing its a waste of time
i'm so tired
I also have done both. Manual labour jobs are very dependent on who you're working with and what the job actually entails.
I once worked at one place that was a factory that produced dry powdered gravy for dog food. It was advertised as "forklift driver", was mandatory 12 hr shifts and paid much better than the other jobs in the area. "how hard can it be?" i thought. "Just driving a forklift, easy!". Turns out that you rarely got to drive the forklift and most of the job was getting Pallets sent up to you, stacked over 6ft tall, full of 25kg bags of ingredients, scanning them, matching the total weights of the bags, unloading them, cutting them and throwing the contents in to a huge mixer. For 12 hours straight with machinery so loud you couldn't even hear each other and dust flying everywhere to the point where you needed to wear a mask at all times. Heavy ass bags that were a nightmare to handle and would spray dust all over you when you cut them. Then after a batch, you'd have to climb inside the big mixer and scrape all the excess dust out of it. All done with crazy time constraints and nearly zero margin for error. If you fricked up a batch, it was like 10 grand down the drain for the company. Breaks were forcibly set to 3x 20-minute breaks per day. Nobody talked to each other, nobody really had the chance to either because each job was split in a way where it was 2 people and both were always at 100% capacity busy. At the end of the day i could taste the powder down my throat and i'd blow my nose and brown shit from the powder would come out. It got everywhere, including my hair, my car and i had a earthy gravy smell to me at all times. When you tried to wash it off, the powder would turn in to a sort of sticky paste. Only people willing to work there were myself, Polish immigrants, one dude who had just gotten out of jail and one old dude who was grumpy as frick and hated everyone. I quit after 2 months.
How did you even manage to do that for 2 months is beyond me. I would quit during the first week. Also how deceptive was that ad. >polish immigrants
as a pollack myself I wonder how these people endure all this shit
>rock up to job sight for the interview >its either loud or smelly >instantly turn around and leave
or when you get there and you see the employees are all visibly miserable
like why even bother
you really think you are going to be the 1 c**t with a smile on his face all day or not covered in concrete dust on the drive home?
I had the same fricking attitude getting a job at target "stocking shelves? lol ez" then you get there first day and they give you some 60 pound fricking cart that is impossible to fricking move and you're expected to stock that 1 60 pound cart in half an hour. Quit 3 days in
What he said was accurate to my experiences. The boomers at my first job would get pissy if you weren't 15 minutes early. I didn't care though and still went in "late" (right on time).
That sounds awful. Were these tech jobs? I've always worked on analytics side of things. What do you do if you have a doctor's appointment; are they fine with you heading out for a few hours?
No, that one was manufacturing. You could head out if you had a doctor's appointment and cleared it with them first, it was just that they expected you to be there early and leave late. I went in on time and left when my shift ended and they gave me dirty looks at first but got over it when I made it clear it wasn't going to change. Second job was even worse because the boomers always pulled overtime and took it as a given that you would do overtime with them without even asking. Like they would announce overtime and everyone just stayed. When I got up to leave, they got mad at me and tried to pressure me to stay. Then they acted like I was lazy. For leaving when my shift ended. Boomers are bizarre creatures. We just fundamentally have different views about work. For them, work is their life. For me, it's an annoying thing I have to do and want it to be over with as soon as possible so I can do what I actually want.
>they acted like I was lazy. For leaving when my shift ended. Boomers are bizarre creatures. We just fundamentally have different views about work. For them, work is their life.
it's quite literally part of their religion. Burger puritan calvinist prots are fueled by immiseration as penance and enduring fate
I'm doing a 8 hour shift driving deliveries, fixed route. The first address is an hour past the start of the shift so I just come in half an hour late every day. If I'm fast enough I can leave also around 45 minutes earlier. I'm an efficient and reliable worker so no one says shit, pretty comfy.
In a lot of states you can put in a few years as an electrician and easily pull 6 figs and you’re not breaking your body like a framer or a mason. It’s easy as frick and you get to hang with the fellas. Job sites are diverse as frick but rarely is anyone a homosexual. Working men of all types talk mad shit and it couldn’t be more fun. We all unite in hating pussies.
>HR does literally nothing but process PTO requests and talk shit about every single person in the office
Also, they're there to defend "the business", so if you go to them with an actual complaint, all it will do is make your life worse.
>"on time is late, 15 minutes early is on time, 30 minutes early is early"
Also, clocking out when you're supposed to clock out is suspicious, because that means you're looking at the clock instead of working.
I've worked at an office for ONE MONTH and it's the worst work experience of my life. And it was because of nothing else but the FAKENESS: fake interest in the others, fake closeness, fake niceness, fake shallow conversations... It killed me inside.
This, my god. >expected to smile constantly like the goddamn joker >actively told to be fake with customers >"icebreaker" meetings, "water cooler" discussion, "parties" >everyone brown-nosing all the time
Puke.
There was one EXTRAORDINARILY BEAUTIFUL woman in my office. Like I'm not even normally That Guy, but she was fricking gorgeous. A lot of them are prettier than average, just because office job and money.
pics or celeb lookalikes? Describe her a bit at least.
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Medium length brown hair, great skin, great teeth, sharp dresser, in shape and occasionally wore clothes that would give you a peek at her abs... Kind of looked like Shannon Elizabeth circa American Pie/JASBSB.
It's worse in an office. >"Hey gang, we're having a fun scrum this morning, then a team building exercise, followed by a pizza party for lunch, after which there's an afternoon mixer, before happy hour! But also, don't forget to stay PRODUCTIVE and WORK and HOLISTICALLY OPTIMIZE YOUR POTENTIAL!"
i worked a sales job at a small company where i was in the field mostly but spent time in office. Our product ordering guy had retired from a big military contractor, 20+ years in a serious office setting to work with his wife at the office. I asked him about this movie one day and started chuckling and he got like stern-faced and angry and said something like "i can't watch that movie.. it's too real" and changed the subject.
>This place is dogshit at discussing actual entertainment
There's nothing left to discuss. Everything is just a cipher for the metapolitics behind things.
i work as a live in house maid
so i guess that counts as work from home
i live at my job so even though the pay is about the same as some kid flipping burgers but there is zero expenses
no rent, no internet bill, no utilities, no food (i cook so i just list what i need and they get it delivered to the house)
and im basically doing everything i would have to do in my own house, cook, meal plan/prep, clean, shop, laundry.
the downside is that the only time im off work is when my boss(home owner) is asleep, and if they wake up in the middle of the night and want a grilled cheese you bet im getting woken up to make it.
but my savings account is huge
its unreal
the money just keeps piling up
doing it about 5 years now
i cant imagine stopping unless the boss dies
>and if they wake up in the middle of the night and want a grilled cheese you bet im getting woken up to make it.
Sometimes I think the communists are right about the rich.
>HR does literally nothing but process PTO requests and talk shit about every single person in the office
Also, they're there to defend "the business", so if you go to them with an actual complaint, all it will do is make your life worse.
I did that once. I regret being a naive moron.
I hope the trope about "just document everything bro" will finally die off because it's such a crock of shit. Talk around with different people in your life and see if it ever actually helped their case in any way at all, ever. The only people who have a chance are women and that's only because of potential lawsuits. Even then, I've watched a female secretary cry in a meeting room full of people about how overworked she was, and my b***h HR lady had an annoyed face and was completely apathetic.
Squeaky wheel gets the grease. If you are the one who complains, you're now the target. Best thing you can do is get the frick out as soon as possible, especially in the current climate where you lose money every year anyways.
Fun fact; I actually tried to file a federal claim against my job, there's a three month waiting list, and if you miss their phone call, you have 15 minutes to call them back or it's back to the list. Also, that meeting is only to determine if you might have a case. Also, I think the statute of limitations is like a year. I had a whole file of evidence against my boss. Trash.
me logging all of my time spent saved my unemployment benefits when i got inactionably terminated from Lowe's. playing the game according to the rules worked for me
I work in the finance office of a shipping company, and though theres shades of everything you described, its only a fraction of the worst kind of city office jobs. No dress code, everyone swears and says wild shit all the time, and HR just pretends not to hear it. has that old school office feel, despite having all the bullshit initiatives all over the walls. very comfy, although my boss is a complete dickhead who tries to constantly shift blame and the goalposts every 2 or 3 days.
>be me >work in security >boss is a boomer ex-surveillance consultant >installed constantly on cameras and microphones in all the company cars and in the equipment rooms >everyone at the company has to wear a constantly on bodycam >work phones autistically track all movements and patrols >"15 mins early in on-time, anything else is late" >But if you actually clock in 15 mins early he has HR adjust the time to whenever you were actually supposed to clock in >Same with staying after unless authorized >using personal phone or any other device is grounds for instant dismissal >cars also have beepers in them that beep at you if you sit for more than 10mins in the same place >decide one day i'm done with this bullshit >start blatantly using my personal phone in front of the cameras >show up exactly on time, not a minute earlier, leave exactly when scheduled, refuse to stay after for any reason unless they agree to pay for my time >move the car one inch when the beeper goes off, move it back to the same position >stop using body cam unless i'm talking to a client or dealing with an unruly person >boss gets incredibly butthurt and threatens to fire me >"Okay, do what you feel you need to, i'm not going to show up unless i'm getting paid and I don't care for the constant surveillance" >They hire a guard to replace me but keep me scheduled for another week to train him >He gets fired on day 2 for sleeping and showing up 15 mins late both shifts >They can't even find anyone else after that so they hold off on firing me >Every time they hire a new person they last only for a week or two before they frick up beyond all saving (because they keep hiring nigs lmao) >Boss literally can't afford to fire me because i'm the only guard covering 2 different sites and if they drop coverage they will loose the client >boss finally just gives up and accepts that i'm not going to play along with his bullshit
This movie is accurate. Literally just stop giving a frick.
I worked security for 7 years, eventually being promoted to shift lead and then site supervisor. You can be the absolute worst employee ever, but if you at least show up each day and aren't late you'll be invincible. It's extremely rare to find people that will reliably show up (or work overtime if needed).
>>But if you actually clock in 15 mins early he has HR adjust the time to whenever you were actually supposed to clock in
Super illegal, but it happens everywhere all the time.
HR only exists to be company men who make goddamn sure to protect the company from liability of any type. They don't give a flying frick about employees unless it threatens the company in some small way.
>I think it's the supervision that got me the most.
seems like you worked one step up from a labor job, so of course everyone's breathing down your neck, since you didn't show your capacity to have independent thoughts
the blue collar tards NEED supervision ALL the time or they will slack off
higher up the office job ladder you switch to a few reviews per year of what you're doing and you're mostly left off on your own, because they if you don't drool people assume that you are capable of not doing extremely stupid shit
I can get some of it. I remember working at a movie theater and half my coworkers were busy being useless going off into corners and using their phones the whole time. There has to be a balance between the work getting done and giving people the flexibility and space they need to be happy as they work. And there are jobs like that, if the place you're at doesn't have it, just leave and find another one, it's not like it's hard, there's tons of them.
I rewatched this recently and felt like making a Lumbergh post on Friday but forgot
Next week I won't and on Friday afternoon Lumbergh will want (You) to come in on Saturday
It's not like companies go out of business with a weak business model and a main building that just got burned down. I'm sure their tech firm handled the tech bubble implosion well lol.
Yet the programmers immediately got new jobs and were willing to help him get his foot through the door as well. They all stayed in the shitty company that they hated because they were ruled by fear.
Because y2k hadn't happened yet and the nasdaq crash was still a little over a year away when that movie was made. Like 90% of "tech" companies ate shit and died.
So what? It's not like programmers and other tech workers were forced on the streets. If anything managers probably had the hardest time finding new jobs.
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>t. Man about to be replaced by fake AI
I'm sure you're good with a hammer though you'll be fine
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I've actually brought this up in my company because simple AI could do 95-98% of my job, but no on cares about it, we're providing a quality product and can't afford AI frickups. Also everyone is lazy, it's easier to just keep things going as they are.
Because y2k hadn't happened yet and the nasdaq crash was still a little over a year away when that movie was made. Like 90% of "tech" companies ate shit and died.
They never would have made it through the 08 recession either. I imagine all the guys that worked there are doing other shit like running a coffee shop or selling toys on ebay at this point in history.
Delusional. I got to know guys who went through that, Y2K and now. Some changed jobs, sure, but still in the segment. At my current current job there's a 60 year old who went through two buyouts of the company and he's still here.
I've been around it for years, you just adapt and mitigate. Dwelling on it is illness. You're not smarter, you're actually a fricking moron for focusing on it. The cashier knows it too.
I literally stopped doing anything but calling into meetings for past two weeks, without even turning camera on. One call I've had my laptop on the sink while I was throwing up.
I make what I consider to be a lot of money at my job, but I hate it. I'm seriously thinking of just quitting, but I'm worried that down the line I'll just be stuck working an even worse job for less pay. Shit sucks, it's a mental trap.
i realized recently i don’t need my job. i understand i do have to work and right now i think the work i do is challenging and engaging, but it wouldn’t be worth staying at the job if it wasn’t. kind of a good feeling. i might just drop out buy a van and go play around for a couple years who knows
>drop out buy a van
sounds like midlife crisis shit those years aint coming back buddy no mattar what just try to pick up a less annoying job and do something else
so what the frick if it is? >nooo you can’t just have fun
i’ve been working on other things for years and one of them is starting to pop off. been a dream since my 20s to do this but i had to find a way to make it happen
I actually like my wagie job cause I listen to my music al day eat free food work perfect schedule and I'm my own boss most of the time but it's when all my zoomie coworkers call in that life becomes miserable. Helps having a hot wife at home
I started a job at starbucks like 3 months ago and already want to quit cause of a girl I worked with. It was fun going to work and flirting and shit but she left 2 weeks ago and I have no motivation or energy to continue cause the job itself is utter shit. I used to love working everday and even would request overtime just to talk to her
I remember there was this girl i loved showing up to talk with one day manager says she quit said she got a better job somewhere else and i never saw her again idk why it stung knowing she moved on and im still stuck at this shit job since we both said were gonna quit it sooner or later but she actually did.
at my last job 1 guy finally quit and then we lost 15% of our staff in over the next year. its cool to see people finally realize they can leave. i also left. good luck bro.
thats a real thing in any job once people see someone who did the most work or has been there a long time quit they quit as well thinking if they could find something better so can i. This is why these scumbag companies sometimes wait till you quit to give you a promotion.
You could have asked her for her number right before she left. Worst case she says no and you never see her again.
A week before she left I asked for her number actually but the thing is she left me on read, but the very next day she went back to flirting with me and acting like nothing happened. I then sent her another text after work joking that she will probably spill a ton of drinks closing and she still ghosted me. On her last day we closed together and I was going to ask her out but she kept pretending she was busy doing things and told me she had to leave right away and I didn't get a chance.
And she did nothing but flirt and compliment my looks, she gave all the signs she liked me yet at the same time it seemed like she didn't want a relationship or something, I don't get it. I still have her number and think if I should message her. it's been 2 weeks since she quit
She was flirting with you because she was bored at work.
No, that one was manufacturing. You could head out if you had a doctor's appointment and cleared it with them first, it was just that they expected you to be there early and leave late. I went in on time and left when my shift ended and they gave me dirty looks at first but got over it when I made it clear it wasn't going to change. Second job was even worse because the boomers always pulled overtime and took it as a given that you would do overtime with them without even asking. Like they would announce overtime and everyone just stayed. When I got up to leave, they got mad at me and tried to pressure me to stay. Then they acted like I was lazy. For leaving when my shift ended. Boomers are bizarre creatures. We just fundamentally have different views about work. For them, work is their life. For me, it's an annoying thing I have to do and want it to be over with as soon as possible so I can do what I actually want.
Why give me your number then? She could have rejected me right then and there yet give me her number knowing I'd like to keep in touch but ghosts me instead
Women will spin some bullshit about how they've learned they have to fear for their lives when they reject a man in person etc. etc. but it's because they're cowards and don't have the balls to do it face to face.
Why are you assuming she knows why she is doing anything? It was fun in the moment and she is moronic
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I've never been in a relationship, but have gotten hit on a lot and am told I'm cute. I'm 27 and she was 19 so yeah I'm stupid in thinking she is smart or anything. Yet it seems common sense to not treat people like that
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>virgin loser
opinion discarded
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>Yet it seems common sense to not treat people like that
Woman + teenager + zoomer + hot has got to be the worst predisposers for behaviour.
Do not text her. I've been there, the worst thing you can do is give her even more attention. If there is even a slight chance of her wanting to hook up with you it will only come to her mind with time. You have given her enough attention already.
My job is 90 percent driving around in a white pickup truck 10 percent checking hardware on utility poles. $46.74/hr union bennies all the overtime (x2 pay) I want
How do you get these jobs? My friend drives around in a truck and checks water levels and basically just chills all day. He said just apply with the city but they never ever call you back.
It's really boring most of the time. I'll play my switch and phonepost here or on reddit to pass time but I really miss being around other people. It's 10 hours a day completely alone in the middle of nowhere usually.
That sounds like a dream. You should probably have more appreciation for it. I'm so tired of working with people. The only people who I enjoyed working with were mostly relatives and family.
>intern
just realize nobody gives a shit about you and you're there for the line on your resume. Don't worry about it, try to learn something but don't bug people because they don't actually want to help you
Office job is all about pretending. How your work is perceived is more important than the quality of that job.
Here are some tips >Do NOT draw heat towards you >Keep contact with females to a minimum >Do not engage into gossip >If someone that's not your boss wants your opinion about X coworker he's just trying to see how much of a snake you are >Do not accept any task from someone that's not an immediate superior >Always look busy and never, ever, say out loud that you're light on workload >Stretch your tasks as much as possible and make them seem complicated >The reward for being fast and efficient is more work, adapt to the average productivity >Look somewhat stressed >Never appear indifferent if your boss asks for your opinion, even if most likely you don't give a frick
Pretty much pic related, it's got to look good from the outside.
this is how I work and I'm only 28. I get caught out sometimes but not enough to raise alarm bells for very long. I have got into a very bad habit of pouring whiskey into my coffee cup during meetings though and whilst no-one can smell it I wonder if they can tell instinctively over the webcam.....
everyone's too busy looking at themselves in the camera due to self consciousness/vanity
i sometimes feel very alone and depressed when i think about how we're all in our own little bubbles of existence
This is all good stuff >If someone that's not your boss wants your opinion about X coworker he's just trying to see how much of a snake you are
I've almost fallen for that trap before (even if it wasn't the intention). My only solution is to speak on the strengths and positive qualities of X coworker instead of being critical. It usually spins the conversation in a positive way or they change the topic.
I can only think of one coworker that I really, really didn't like working with in all my times of working, but even then he had positive qualities I'd highlight if his name was brought up in conversation.
When I was a kid, I was sent to a "good school". I didn't like it because I had to leave my old friends and didn't really understand the concept of a "good school" or why it mattered. As an adult, I understand completely. School just doesn't work unless the kids have stable reinforcement and encouragement from all involved parties. The kid needs a stable home life with parents who encourage learning, he needs a good teacher, and he also needs classmates who have the same. If any of those pieces are missing, it fricks everything up. If you look at the single motherhood epidemic, the wretched state of the school system makes perfect sense. I think if you send your kid to a public school with nog offspring of single moms, that's equivalent to child abuse.
the ones who do want to learn and actively try to quickly figure out that school is generally not the place for that
the most draining part of being a teacher is learning that your kids are correct to not want to be there, even if you're good and caring enough to make your class a bright spot for them. most of the teachers you meet never figure that out, because the ones who do quit.
Teachers are the scum of the earth whose purpose is to abuse children.
The 6 purposes of schooling:
1 - teach unquestioning compliance by forcing children to agree with things which are visibly false
2 - conform all children, smart with the stupid
3 - prohibit learning more than required
4 - ridicule and ostracize undesirables so their peers see them this way to keep them from breeding
5 - categorize everyone
6 - select custodians to take over this
While not one of the original stated purposes of schooling, a 7th was added post WW2 when depopulation via war was deemed too dangerous to our rulers and they moved to using propaganda for that purpose.
7 - keep women in schooling as long as possible so they are not having families
All other societal problems stem directly from schooling. Do not mistake it for education.
>prohibit learning more than required
my textbooks usually had exercises or sections marked with * or "advanced" that wasn't part of main curriculum but if you did those you could get bonus grades which I suppose was meant for kids interested in given subject to guide into and reward them for interest
Pretty much the only reason I'll never be a teacher, even though it's basically my dream job. I can't bring myself to go through so much effort that's inevitably going to be wasted. I do admire the good ones who do push through and give it their all though, even if it's mostly fruitless.
Breh it wouldn't *be* fruitless if you were teaching things that were useful in ways that were interesting
It's not on children to know better or on them to entertain what they might correctly intuit to be useless or detrimental.
Have you made any sort of effort to find out the interests and goals of your students, and teach the material on those terms?
I mean, I get that the main problem is that education is compulsory and the pupils are forced to be there.
t. high school teacher
I'm just venomously infectious with my positive attitude towards the subject and ignore the kids who actively refuse to do anything, which is very rare. You genuinely have to have/adapt a certain attitude for teaching or you'll be consumed by the malaise. I'm just a naturally peppy person most of the time, and on days where I don't have the necessary energy I tend to have slower-paced/solo/quiet assignments, which is also an important aspect of classroom management.
Any student who doesn't match the energy and expectations the first time know to be a bit more chipper when they repeat the class.
Unless you're at a school with good students and a nice staff I wouldn't suggest it. Like
The most draining part of being a teacher is that most of your kids don't want to learn.
says most of the students at best will not give a frick in any lessons and be glued to their phones and at worst will be actively detrimental to the lesson. The staff can be even worse. It was at times the best job I've ever done but I couldn't do it until retirement unless I was in a very specific school.
The most draining part of being a teacher is that most of your kids don't want to learn.
Thanks. I live in a pretty good district, so not too worried about that, I just have to do something. Failed as a paralegal after 3 years, waiting tables now, life sucks
>all those hours spent playing minesweeper, solitaire, chess and pinball >sometimes an excel spreadsheet with macros would contain a game >best one I had was called "toss the paper" >mfw I spent most of my career living like this
They know that they can only post two threads, so like fishing with two rods they're abusing this so they can get more replies.
You see it all the time here, identical threads.
It’s not the job or work itself that bothers me it was always worrying they would hire a new guy who would end up being a chad and he just ends up hooking up with the girl I had a crush on for months. I should really find a job working alone.
You unironically deserve it if you have a "crush" as a grown man and don't act on it. Fortune favors the bold and time waits for no man. Either ask her out or accept it when someone else does. No one to blame but yourself. "Crushes" are for preteen girls.
I was a temp for 4 years, then I just stopped showing up. They called me for a month until they stopped. One of my bosses even called my during a night on saturday and I didn't answer. They probably thought that I would do something to myself. The reason I stopped though was because I had mental problems and had a massive burnout. I got diagnosed with schizophrenia later. I have another job now and it's permanent. So everything worked out in the end, I'd like to not be schizo though.
What are your symptoms of being schizo? I'm wondering whether I should get checked out, but I'm not sure that being diagnosed would benefit me in any way.
I stopped sleeping, thought I could read people's minds, started seeing people I know outside, thought people were after me and that cars were out to get me, thought I was seriously ill and there was constant flow of bullshit coming to my brain so that I couldn't think clearly.
I still get all of that, but only during bad days.
Shit, I see "people" like once a month and I feel like I'm being followed most of the time, mostly when I'm driving. I don't have a sleeping problem but I sometimes wake up in the middle of the night laughing hysterically, crying or scratching my head, and I have a problem remembering those things the next day. Did you go to a doc or something? you take meds?
I hope you'll find peace bro. What are your thoughts on the meds? I'm kinda scared that meds would make me moronic, even more...
3 months ago
Anonymous
I probably wouldn't be here without the meds. I haven't told people that I'm a schizo and they probably wouldn't believe it if I told them because of how normal I appear.
>grow up you fricking homosexuals >clicks on the Catalog button >Enters another celebrity gossip thread >Posts about feet or racebait or some other bullshit
Yes we mature men have to stick together, don't we?
>be active military >get out and join reserves >unit is stationed in Hawaii >get a civilian job that pays ~60k in a midwest state >absolutely hate it >take orders back to Hawaii for 3 months at a time >making literally 3 times as much as my civilian job >civilian job can't fire me til I'm gone for 5 years
why do older generations act as if working was some sort of moral obligation? I mean sure, gotta survive on something but nowadays 50 percent of jobs are pointless and add no real value to society, even creating false incentives etc. I also feel that the whole shtick about "making the world a better place for the generations to come" is just a hollow phrase. old people nowadays would seethe to the max if Star Trek tier living without any need for manual labor and infinite resources was a fact.
most people don't think about anything beyond themselves and cannot conceive of circumstances being different and prefer to jump to the most generic conclusions about things. that's where the NPC meme comes from.
Back in midcentury working an ordinary job would yield a home, support a family, etc. so the people who held those jobs equated it to the value of those things. Now it's apparent that the two are disconnected. People want purpose but they also want to work for something better than their current circumstances.
>Thinking Cinemaphile is for discussing Television & Film
Cinemaphile is for b***hing about real life and the movie or show in the OP is for giving that b***hing a focusing theme. You wanna talk about a movie, go into or start a genny and pray it doesn't derail.
>well paying
Anon it pays well in the summer time but work slows down in the winter time. It even out to about (for me) 35k a year. And all the while the company wants you to sell shit they didn't sant a month ago when they bought the unit but your on a "free" maintenance look, only trying to find somthing to sell them or your on afirst time call telling them they need a new unit because their flame sensor had too much carbon build up on it and you "could clean it but the boss said you need a new one because it could fail and that'll be 300 bucks" frick this trade.
>I am an angry zoomer who regularly posts images of houses from 1980s sitcoms and seethes about what I feel entitled to
Feel free to have a nice day at any time, preferably right now
I used to work in a building with lots of small companies, there was a sales firm there where apparently the lowest performing team would have to do something as punishment, can't imagine being a sales wagie >mfw I'm bored in the office looking out the window and see a bunch of guys fully suited up running laps around the building
What's your guys opinion on dating coworkers? Seems everyone says not to do it, but then where are you supposed to meet someone if you spend half your day at a job?
I spent years commiting the mistake of just looking for reasons to say "no". All it resulted in was me being alone, having said no, no and no.
If you're genuinely interested, throw the dice. Dont go around hitting on every chick with a pulse at your workplace, and think of the consequences of her saying no and make sure to play it off in a way that things can stay atleast decently professional.
The latter, and my current job is filled with boomers and being the youngest in the office there isn't anyone here that interests me. That and how many said boomers who mentioned that they met their spouses at work.
Okay then, never throw the dice and stay alone then. If I feel like it at a future job (or a new hire here) I won't let this type of hesitation stop me. Oh and >boomers include my boss who is 35.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not alone and I threw the dice at a workplace once. Maybe you'll have better luck, but stop bickering and fantasizing without experience.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>"A or B?" >"In the past I picked A over B, and in the long term I regretted it." >"Have you ever picked B?" >"Nope. But I've interacted with others that have and it well for them. If I get an opportunity for B in the future I intend to go for it" >"Then I will pick A." >"Then you'll get the same outcome as me. Suit yourself." >"Don't bicker about A or B until you've tried both"
I feel like we're both being stupid here.
Anyway anything that results in "what could have been" cope = bad.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I discourage you, but you do you and that'll be on you, good or bad. You argue like a woman. I agree on last sentence
>Seems everyone says not to do it
Yeah, but mostly it's fine as long as they aren't your subordinate. Look at America's #1 workplace romantic comedy The Office.
I worked a call center out of collage. I absolutely hated it. It was a call center for the general public, specifically the bottom of the barrel public, real scum of the earth. And management wanted us to be the callers b***h, so basically I was underneath scum on the hierarchy (thanks bachelors degree!) One night I just had it with the shit and walked out mid shift, only they had fricked the schedule up and I was the only person working so I left the entire call center empty for like 5 hours. I don't understand how people can withstand these soul crushing jobs like that. Do you have no dignity? No pride?
I'm half way to retiring at 40. Should have about 1 to 1.5M in stocks to pull from depending on what happens in the next 5 years. Living comfortably off less than 50k at the moment.
I work in IT at a big corp in the EU and I'm miserable despite being very well-paid.
There is nothing for me here. The women are rancid garbage. Feel like I'm just wasting time and burning my life away.
I have enough saved to just quit and travel around SEA for years, but I'm afraid to take the plunge.
Anyone have experience with crises like this?
WFH is fricking fantastic. Anytime I want I can just open up notepad and put my coffee cup on the spacebar so teams doesn't go to 'away' status then just wander off and do my thing. Don't have to listen to colleague bullshit, don't have anyone looking over my shoulder, can generally do whatever the frick I want with my time so long as scheduled tasks get cleared. I do all my household chores on company time.
just enter a meeting with only you and set your status to available. teams stays green the whole time and the cpu never goes to sleep. first thing I do when I clock in everyday.
37 here without degree, career or non-dead end wagecuck job experience. Never had a relationship and obviously a virgin. No friends. I'll kms on my 40th birthday.
you can still pick any certification you want and have a real job easily by 39. get in the gym and get in shape and you can land a decent 30 year old girl. Start going to church and give your life to Jesus Christ. Your lifespan is 80 years, it's not too late.
I have work tomorrow, I don’t want to go to sleep but if it don’t tomorrow will be hell. I hate going to work and doing nothing then get treated like a c**t for wanting to work at work to distract myself from the nothing
Just find a girl. I know I know right? Haha sounds like a bad deal. But you're already in the circle. Try it. It can go wrong but you WILL feel better. For a while. Or lifetime. Who can tell!
I’m a workforce admin at a call center.
I can work from home everyday, though I occasionally go to the office to keep appearances.
In a full day I do less than 2 hours of work. And then I just chill. I am actually working right now.
I have always dreamed of getting a bullshit fake email job that pays me for doing nothing. So dreams do come true.
Pay could be better though.
I walked the soul sucking wagie path for big pharma finance. Lasted 3 years between 2 companies after getting a 3.5GPA finance BA from a mediocre school. I'm not really smart, so I was stumped as to how I got into these positions. Turns out corporate finance really doesn't require a brain. I'm now a firefighter in a major US city. I don't have the words convey the upgrade in quality of life.
What struck me in retrospect was the lack of pay drop. I've been in firefighting for nearly 3 years now and am back up to median salary for financial analysts at my first company. The benefits are almost on par, retirement was better in pharma, OT pay more than makes up for any small shortcomings FF has to offer.
The two were huge. I was in a development fast-track program at the first. Fresh out of college was 67k-ish if memory serves. Two years after that, upon enough positive reviews, you can start to chip into the low 90s. It really stagnates from there until you get the director rung of the ladder. The second company was worse, uncommon to have people over 110k unless you were on Sr Dir+, biostats, or legal.
I'm now at a base of 79k, 2x OT pay, shift differential pay, special team pay (hazmat), and I qualify for state-wide rescue programs. My work feels so much more impactful, and I feel much more at ease.
It's funny really, I used to get the shakes during quarter closes at company #2. I now have to deal with shit that will one-shot you if you frick up and I never get as wound up.
When I was younger I worked at Walmart and every department manager, cashier manager, assistant manager, store manager, and support manager could kick you out of your department to work in theirs.
It got to the point where all these managers would give contradictory tasks you'd have to complete like outdoor carts and meat department at the same time.
At one point I had at least 30 managers i can reliably remember pulling my crew all over the place and we never got anything done on our area.
The store manager refused to kick out crackhead that got kicked out of the nearby stores and that made the parking lot scary.
>Used to have the comfiest office job >just sending emails and wfh 2 days of the week >boss was the coolest let me sleep in the office >talk anime and movies with all my chill coworkers >would always approve my PTO when I didnt have any >boss leaves >new boss takes away wfh >co workers leave >forces me to train new employees >new employees are all women that just gossip >leave job >Now a NEET living with mom >want to kill myself but studying AWS to become a solutions architect
Your coworkers and boss really make the job for you. I miss that job
>boss really make the job >have office job >it's great >boss leaves >new boss sucks ass >work harder and harder to try to get her off my case >get fired anyway >friend on other team says his boss literally never discusses work with him, they just shoot the shit
>boss really make the job >have office job >it's great >boss leaves >new boss sucks ass >work harder and harder to try to get her off my case >get fired anyway >friend on other team says his boss literally never discusses work with him, they just shoot the shit
This is the truth. The people are what make or break your job. I've seen comfy workplaces turn into mismanaged shitholes full of backstabbing parasites because of a change in management. It is a coin toss whether your workplace is going to be full of buttholes.
Bros I might have actually landed my first real adult job. After 2.5 years of trying and about 700 applications, I may have finally gotten one. 32 year old neet. I dont know how to do what they want me to do, but I think the interview went okay and they hit up a couple of my references who both said nice things. I feel like I'll need to ask for help on every little task. How do I fit in without being immediately fired?
>I dont know how to do what they want me to do
This is very normal. Asking questions is fine and expected, but a good suggestion is to take a bunch of notes, because asking the same question ten times over is no longer fine.
Okay that's good to hear. I dont understand how they can afford to hire someone like me who will be essentially a newborn child for a handful of months. Like when you're new at a job you're worse than useless, because you use other people's time by needing training. My (assuming I got the job) department will have only three other people besides me: a dean and two directors. How they can afford to take on such a long term investment is a mystery to me.
Another thing worth mentioning is that it's a newly created position. I'm hoping that means it will be on the easier side, since there will be no precedent.
>I dont understand how they can afford to hire someone like me who will be essentially a newborn child for a handful of months. Like when you're new at a job you're worse than useless, because you use other people's time by needing training.
Because everyone else in the market pool is the same, worse, or costs a whole fricking lot more. If someone was better suited than you at the same price point, they would have been hired instead.
I spent the first six months at my current job watching training videos and doing kiddy pool tasks feeling like an imposter, since I switched industries. It passes. You'll be fine. Take notes.
Just act normal. Most people are so moronic that if you aren't like most people and have a shred of competence you will be a god. Only social autism can hurt you. Act normal anon, ganbate.
Like other said, act normal. Don't reveal your power level like if someone brings up movies probably best to keep it level headed and dont suggest something like Eraserhead or something too weird.
Ask questions and take notes. You will do a lot of training at first and it probably wont feel like you are actually working on anything until late into your 2nd week (assuming its an office job). Just get to meet people and be yourself. Dont ever act like you arent qualified or bring that up. Just be happy to be working there and let them know you will be doing your best. Also probably goes without sayong, but show up to work on time, or at the very least 10 min. before starting. Probably an hour before your start time on your first day is good. Half hour on second or third day, then cool it down to 15 or 10 min. from there. If theres nothing to do then you can always look around, talking to other employees, or do training, etc. Good luck anon you got this!
Thanks for being so nice lads. It is a data analyst job, but for a school, so it won't really be a cubicle farm. I don't forsee accidentally revealing my power level or anything, but I do forsee not being able to relate to my coworkers at all. If I screw up, it will be due to incompetence, not social issues, as I'm just so grateful to finally get a real job after being so worthless all my life. I will take notes and try my best.
Like other said, act normal. Don't reveal your power level like if someone brings up movies probably best to keep it level headed and dont suggest something like Eraserhead or something too weird.
Ask questions and take notes. You will do a lot of training at first and it probably wont feel like you are actually working on anything until late into your 2nd week (assuming its an office job). Just get to meet people and be yourself. Dont ever act like you arent qualified or bring that up. Just be happy to be working there and let them know you will be doing your best. Also probably goes without sayong, but show up to work on time, or at the very least 10 min. before starting. Probably an hour before your start time on your first day is good. Half hour on second or third day, then cool it down to 15 or 10 min. from there. If theres nothing to do then you can always look around, talking to other employees, or do training, etc. Good luck anon you got this!
No, but on your first day though? That was my point. Also gives anon time to understand how to get there and avoid any roadblocks like doing paperwork or ID cards or parking, etc. This is all assuming anon works in an office job. If it is retail or food or something else then probably half hour or 15 min. early is doable.
I found a cool WFH a few years ago with a hands off management style. I visit clients in person from time to time. I remember my previous job being hell.
I really like my job itself, but it doesn't pay a living wage, so I'm still stuck living with my parents. I've been thinking about trying to learn how to code. Is that still recommended?
I look at gay porn 8h a day and get paid for it.
I have been getting gay dreams because of how much gay vintage porn I look at. Some of the stuff is funny ngl
It's fricking impossible to get a job here in Brisbane
I've been looking for cleaning work, restaurant work, warehouse labouring, but no one wants to even get me in for an interview let alone hire me.
I have experience, but it's been impossible to find anything
I worked at semiconductor fab that ran 24 hours a day. Some interesting things I noticed: >Night shift had weirdos but most of the people you encountered were relatively normal. They came to work to work, and showed understanding for how it sucked and wanted to help you. >The day shift where we never had to work a Friday or Saturday was full of complete douchebags who were borderline moronic, never helped you do anything, and seethed like children if you refused to do shit for them that they could just do themselves. >After transferring from night shift to day, people I'm working with in my area go from being hard-workers that talk to me normally and leave me be because they see I work hard to weirdos that bother me about nonsense all day and tell me shit I don't want to know about their personal lives before trying to become friends first. When I act weirded out they start talking mad shit about me all day right in front of me. >Multiple times on this shift, I saw some of the leads in one section literally point and laugh at our supervisor and the lead who was buddy-buddy with her in a "team huddle", they didn't do shit. I tried to respectful to both of these women. They repaid me by making fun of me too. >Supervisor and lead noticed I was a self-starter most days, then tried to make me do not only my job but also the job of this dumb cornball autist who was lazy as frick. Said autist's own mother fled the state and her old house transferring the mortgage to him just to gtfo away from him. I did this for a while, then stopped once I realized that if I stopped, nothing would happen. They couldn't do shit. They seethed hard. >I quit months later on a whim and the supervisor was suddenly nice to me for no reason. >Company policy was that my supervisor had to WALK ME OUT OF THE BUILDING on my last day. For some reason HR told me that I could choose to not be escorted out if I wanted but then my supervisor made me go along with this shit anyway.
ENOUGH WITH THIS FRICKING THREAD GO TO /LULZ/ TO WHINE
i don't like that board. I don't think I'm gonna post there anymore.
>t. raging wagecuck
GO TO HELL YOU BROWN homosexual STOP MAKING THIS FRICKING THREAD
FRICKING THIS THANK YOU
Like 99% of jobs are soul crushing in one way or another, but as someone who has worked both manual labor and office jobs, there is something truly dread-instilling about corporate office work
>constant supervision from people who get paid 3x your salary just to make sure you're doing your job
>constant 'team huddles' and shit like that filled with absolute meaningless nonsense and vague semi-warnings of 'work harder or else'
>HR does literally nothing but process PTO requests and talk shit about every single person in the office
>boomer boss who's worked there 30 years only comes in 3 days a week but writes you up for showing up 5 minutes late regardless of the cause
>"on time is late, 15 minutes early is on time, 30 minutes early is early"
>mandatory nonsensical reports and bureaucratic bullshit that do absolutely nothing and are thrown out as soon as you submit them
I think it's the supervision that got me the most. At one job I was in a department that was just me, another guy, and a manager, and the manager's main job was just to sit in his office, listen to 70s rock, and monitor our computer screens over screen sharing to make sure we were always working.
> monitor our computer screens over screen sharing to make sure we were always working
that’s so fricked. i’d quit. i’ve always had a wfh job and all they ask is that we log our hours.
The only job I've ever walked out of
What job?
i do some engineering shit. not software development. 6 figs
>. i’ve always had a wfh job
What is it? Probably programming. I've wanted a remote job since 2019. That was before 5 years of factory wagecucking waking up at the crack of dawn and getting 5 hours of sleep and hating existence. I don't know if I can even recover from the brain damage and dissociation anymore. I just want to work remotely and cancel everything. Buy a tiny house and have groceries delivered once a week and never give a frick again. I have a girlfriend but she's probably gonna dump me when she finds out how much I say homosexual and Black person and troony at home despite having chink israelite and black friends.
i do some programming but it’s not the product. have an ms and just got lucky to find a startup that needed employees.
>have an ms
Multiple sclerosis?
god i wish
Grocery shopping is fun
the problem is they still need someone to do this, as the WFH shit just showed. all you gays complaining about being monitored turning around on the spot and going "lel i got a mouse jiggler and i do nothing and get paid all day"
The joke of it all is that things still get done, whatever they are. I sometimes frick around and then I'll cram nights just so everything's done on time. Maybe I'm the lazy outlier, but I remember spending hours drinking coffee or smoking cigs with the guys in front of the office as well and that was fine.
>work in office
>have to look busy for 8 hours even if you're meeting quotas
>work from home
>have to get mouse jiggler to look busy
>get monitoring software on computer
>type slower to look busy
Or. OR! Boomer bosses could stop trying to run office jobs like a coal mine.
your output should be all that matters. all this screen logging and mouse jiggling is just holdovers from boomer business ideas that wages depend on time working not the actual product of the work. I work from home and no one cares what I'm doing as long as I produce results in a reasonable time for a reasonable amount of money.
Had a job like this too. Boss was never in but had some sort of surveillance system which allowed her to spy on the employees and write them up if they sat down or busted their phone out for a moment.
As an autist, the female gossip circles made working in the office extremely painful for me. Luckily I'm a man so they only expected token participation and I could mostly avoid it without negative consequences. I've heard from female autists that it's even worse for them to work in these environments, because the c**ts will immediately turn on you if you don't play their game. Such a miserable environment. I've been working from home since covid and will never go back if I can help it. Who the frick needs to hear fat ugly b***hes nitpicking people all day?
The female gossip circle got my entire department into trouble months ago. They could not feasibly bring 5 women into a room and yell at them so they had to collect up the entire department and yell at everyone equally for spreading rumors and harming company morale.
>The female gossip circle
Redpill ne on this, can you get laid easily off it, and what jobs have those the most often?
I used to do IT support for a company and one of our clients got me to install monitoring software on everyone's PC without them knowing
It'd take screenshots every few minutes or when you did something, imagine if your boss could see you on some Cinemaphile troony thread holy shit, the whole thing made me a bit paranoid about work laptops so I've never gone on Cinemaphile on one just in case they were pulling shit like that
When I was in middle school, my dad let me use his work laptop for school work and I went on /d/. A few days later he informed me that his laptop was monitored and history logged. He didn't look me in the eyes when telling me this and didn't talk to me much for a week or so after.
guess what there is a big HR/IT department monitoring us all and its called the NSA
>>d
Had no idea what that was, been on this shitty website for a decade and never gone beyond lit, tv, ck, and out, plus some of the nsfw boards. I’d never dream of going on Cinemaphile using work equipment and I’ve never connected to any of my jobs’ wifi with my personal phone/laptop for paranoid reasons.
I work in IT and do the same because I've seen and used the network monitoring tools where you see all the packets of data they hoover up. I wouldn't be surprised if there's some filter that narrows all the packets down to the word "Black person".
just don't use vpn and if there are corp sniffers block them. sure you should use your own device but I've never had a personal laptop and it turns out the older i get less i can spend at my own desk.
I work IT in a school and just personally rolled out this client for safeguarding which is essentially a keylogger. If you type something it doesn't like it'll screenshot the page you typed it on and send us a list of the window names you've had open for the past hour.
that software has been around for ages, I'm sure. they had them in 2008 when I was still at school. I remember the IT janny reporting me to the head of year for looking at memes on numerous occasions.
Oh we had the standard filters before, but that was only when you're on our network. This reports back to Big Brother wherever you are.
I swear a lot in my notes when I get frustrated so it's funny to think of someone seeing hundreds of screenshots of me calling compound annuities a fricking c**tbiscuit
>redditor cursing
Rent free
That shit is for the pastoral women to trawl through.
We just laugh at staff getting flagged for visiting swingers sites.
that also just reminded me of a time my dad worked in reviewing care homes for kids with super autism etc. anyway, one of the kids kept sneaking out, going to the library and watching furry porn. I had to explain to my dad what rule 34 was and furry porn, which he then had to do a presentation on to try and help the autism guy
He was showing you utter respect and awe at your patrician choices
you just know his dad is still lurking /d/ because ever since that dad, a playboy magazine will never do the same
>It'd take screenshots every few minutes or when you did something,
I always wonder about my work computer doing something similar. Every so often the screen goes black for a second then comes back. If I'm listening to music when the it comes back from the black-out the volume is louder.
>I've never gone on Cinemaphile on one
you would have to be the biggest fricking idiot moron ever. i work for the government and i cannot imagine using my work devices for anything but work. they are public record.
>one of our clients got me to install monitoring software on everyone's PC without them knowing
Surely that's extremely illegal?
Why? It's the company's property.
hahahahahhaha
Are you moronic? Why would that be illegal?
I assume every company does something like that anyway, but the screenshot thing is a little creepy to me. I am guessing that only helps when they take several screenshots in a row and it shows the person browsing reddit or twitter over the past two hours.
>browsing 4chins on your work computer
Do people really?
Can't relate; been a retail wagecuck, manual laborer, and cubicle worker,. Gimme that cube any day of the week. A climate controlled space where I can get up and walk away for ten or fifteen minutes with weekends and holidays off is the breasts and I'll never go back.
unskilled labor bros take the grouphome/animal shelter pill
>can get comfy job working with emotionally disturbed autism bros where you just cook for them and get to witness their bizarre behavior
>virtually no supervision
>can read/game/sleep if you like
>easy to get promotions
my last boss was really handsoff and let us do what we wanted, and he had a side business he owned since the hours for the group home were so flexible for him
they should really make more movies about office work im telling you its some layer of hell i switched to a WFH job and never looked back
I have a job very similar to this. Small team, boomer POS boss who contradicts himself constantly and then shits on you when you didnt guess the right direction he gave, and he talks over you if you try to point it out.
Constant bullshit project management shit for long term 'initiatives', have to harass operational colleagues with my buzzword corporatespeak presentations, with both of us knowing its a waste of time
i'm so tired
I also have done both. Manual labour jobs are very dependent on who you're working with and what the job actually entails.
I once worked at one place that was a factory that produced dry powdered gravy for dog food. It was advertised as "forklift driver", was mandatory 12 hr shifts and paid much better than the other jobs in the area. "how hard can it be?" i thought. "Just driving a forklift, easy!". Turns out that you rarely got to drive the forklift and most of the job was getting Pallets sent up to you, stacked over 6ft tall, full of 25kg bags of ingredients, scanning them, matching the total weights of the bags, unloading them, cutting them and throwing the contents in to a huge mixer. For 12 hours straight with machinery so loud you couldn't even hear each other and dust flying everywhere to the point where you needed to wear a mask at all times. Heavy ass bags that were a nightmare to handle and would spray dust all over you when you cut them. Then after a batch, you'd have to climb inside the big mixer and scrape all the excess dust out of it. All done with crazy time constraints and nearly zero margin for error. If you fricked up a batch, it was like 10 grand down the drain for the company. Breaks were forcibly set to 3x 20-minute breaks per day. Nobody talked to each other, nobody really had the chance to either because each job was split in a way where it was 2 people and both were always at 100% capacity busy. At the end of the day i could taste the powder down my throat and i'd blow my nose and brown shit from the powder would come out. It got everywhere, including my hair, my car and i had a earthy gravy smell to me at all times. When you tried to wash it off, the powder would turn in to a sort of sticky paste. Only people willing to work there were myself, Polish immigrants, one dude who had just gotten out of jail and one old dude who was grumpy as frick and hated everyone. I quit after 2 months.
How did you even manage to do that for 2 months is beyond me. I would quit during the first week. Also how deceptive was that ad.
>polish immigrants
as a pollack myself I wonder how these people endure all this shit
I would have 360 noped after 10 minutes. I've had too many shit jobs to know better.
>rock up to job sight for the interview
>its either loud or smelly
>instantly turn around and leave
or when you get there and you see the employees are all visibly miserable
like why even bother
you really think you are going to be the 1 c**t with a smile on his face all day or not covered in concrete dust on the drive home?
I had the same fricking attitude getting a job at target "stocking shelves? lol ez" then you get there first day and they give you some 60 pound fricking cart that is impossible to fricking move and you're expected to stock that 1 60 pound cart in half an hour. Quit 3 days in
I work in boomer companies and I've never experienced anyone caring if you show up half an hour late or leave half an hour early.
What he said was accurate to my experiences. The boomers at my first job would get pissy if you weren't 15 minutes early. I didn't care though and still went in "late" (right on time).
That sounds awful. Were these tech jobs? I've always worked on analytics side of things. What do you do if you have a doctor's appointment; are they fine with you heading out for a few hours?
No, that one was manufacturing. You could head out if you had a doctor's appointment and cleared it with them first, it was just that they expected you to be there early and leave late. I went in on time and left when my shift ended and they gave me dirty looks at first but got over it when I made it clear it wasn't going to change. Second job was even worse because the boomers always pulled overtime and took it as a given that you would do overtime with them without even asking. Like they would announce overtime and everyone just stayed. When I got up to leave, they got mad at me and tried to pressure me to stay. Then they acted like I was lazy. For leaving when my shift ended. Boomers are bizarre creatures. We just fundamentally have different views about work. For them, work is their life. For me, it's an annoying thing I have to do and want it to be over with as soon as possible so I can do what I actually want.
>they acted like I was lazy. For leaving when my shift ended. Boomers are bizarre creatures. We just fundamentally have different views about work. For them, work is their life.
it's quite literally part of their religion. Burger puritan calvinist prots are fueled by immiseration as penance and enduring fate
https://wikideck.com/Protestant_work_ethic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protestant_Ethic_and_the_Spirit_of_Capitalism
Kinda based in a way, but only if you aren't being a golem and get a good enough reward.
i've worked at exxon and p&g and the parking lots were empty by 5
I'm doing a 8 hour shift driving deliveries, fixed route. The first address is an hour past the start of the shift so I just come in half an hour late every day. If I'm fast enough I can leave also around 45 minutes earlier. I'm an efficient and reliable worker so no one says shit, pretty comfy.
In a lot of states you can put in a few years as an electrician and easily pull 6 figs and you’re not breaking your body like a framer or a mason. It’s easy as frick and you get to hang with the fellas. Job sites are diverse as frick but rarely is anyone a homosexual. Working men of all types talk mad shit and it couldn’t be more fun. We all unite in hating pussies.
>dread
I thought this was a meme emotion until I worked at a law firm
>HR does literally nothing but process PTO requests and talk shit about every single person in the office
Also, they're there to defend "the business", so if you go to them with an actual complaint, all it will do is make your life worse.
I did that once. I regret being a naive moron.
>"on time is late, 15 minutes early is on time, 30 minutes early is early"
Also, clocking out when you're supposed to clock out is suspicious, because that means you're looking at the clock instead of working.
I've worked at an office for ONE MONTH and it's the worst work experience of my life. And it was because of nothing else but the FAKENESS: fake interest in the others, fake closeness, fake niceness, fake shallow conversations... It killed me inside.
This, my god.
>expected to smile constantly like the goddamn joker
>actively told to be fake with customers
>"icebreaker" meetings, "water cooler" discussion, "parties"
>everyone brown-nosing all the time
Puke.
Are there hot chicks? I am a plumber apprentice and I miss working with hot chicks back when I waited tables.
There was one EXTRAORDINARILY BEAUTIFUL woman in my office. Like I'm not even normally That Guy, but she was fricking gorgeous. A lot of them are prettier than average, just because office job and money.
pics or celeb lookalikes? Describe her a bit at least.
Medium length brown hair, great skin, great teeth, sharp dresser, in shape and occasionally wore clothes that would give you a peek at her abs... Kind of looked like Shannon Elizabeth circa American Pie/JASBSB.
>FAKENESS
It's like people are bullshitting all the time or something in society and you just learned about it...
Constant hypocrisy is maddening, anon.
It's worse in an office.
>"Hey gang, we're having a fun scrum this morning, then a team building exercise, followed by a pizza party for lunch, after which there's an afternoon mixer, before happy hour! But also, don't forget to stay PRODUCTIVE and WORK and HOLISTICALLY OPTIMIZE YOUR POTENTIAL!"
i worked a sales job at a small company where i was in the field mostly but spent time in office. Our product ordering guy had retired from a big military contractor, 20+ years in a serious office setting to work with his wife at the office. I asked him about this movie one day and started chuckling and he got like stern-faced and angry and said something like "i can't watch that movie.. it's too real" and changed the subject.
so whats the solution to this problem if I didn't get lucky and got a wfm software job?
Wait for boomers to finally dies off mostly
Everyone replying has a work from home job. Please tell me how to get that, I'll even put 2 years into training for a certificate or whatever
Roberthalf.com helped me
You can also try Flexjobs.com
This place is dogshit at discussing actual entertainment, might as well go off-topic.
>This place is dogshit at discussing actual entertainment
There's nothing left to discuss. Everything is just a cipher for the metapolitics behind things.
i work as a live in house maid
so i guess that counts as work from home
i live at my job so even though the pay is about the same as some kid flipping burgers but there is zero expenses
no rent, no internet bill, no utilities, no food (i cook so i just list what i need and they get it delivered to the house)
and im basically doing everything i would have to do in my own house, cook, meal plan/prep, clean, shop, laundry.
the downside is that the only time im off work is when my boss(home owner) is asleep, and if they wake up in the middle of the night and want a grilled cheese you bet im getting woken up to make it.
but my savings account is huge
its unreal
the money just keeps piling up
doing it about 5 years now
i cant imagine stopping unless the boss dies
could a (fairly ugly) 30 year old guy with no experience get this job?
>and if they wake up in the middle of the night and want a grilled cheese you bet im getting woken up to make it.
Sometimes I think the communists are right about the rich.
I hope the trope about "just document everything bro" will finally die off because it's such a crock of shit. Talk around with different people in your life and see if it ever actually helped their case in any way at all, ever. The only people who have a chance are women and that's only because of potential lawsuits. Even then, I've watched a female secretary cry in a meeting room full of people about how overworked she was, and my b***h HR lady had an annoyed face and was completely apathetic.
Squeaky wheel gets the grease. If you are the one who complains, you're now the target. Best thing you can do is get the frick out as soon as possible, especially in the current climate where you lose money every year anyways.
Fun fact; I actually tried to file a federal claim against my job, there's a three month waiting list, and if you miss their phone call, you have 15 minutes to call them back or it's back to the list. Also, that meeting is only to determine if you might have a case. Also, I think the statute of limitations is like a year. I had a whole file of evidence against my boss. Trash.
jesus christ that makes me seethe
see, this is the shit that nobody tells you about when it comes to trying to pursue your employer. because they're just regurgitating the same shit
I unironically think you'd be better off dialing one of those "we don't get paid unless we win" lawyers.
>Squeaky wheel gets the grease.
That implies the problem gets fixed. You want more "The nail that sticks out gets beaten down."
me logging all of my time spent saved my unemployment benefits when i got inactionably terminated from Lowe's. playing the game according to the rules worked for me
I work in the finance office of a shipping company, and though theres shades of everything you described, its only a fraction of the worst kind of city office jobs. No dress code, everyone swears and says wild shit all the time, and HR just pretends not to hear it. has that old school office feel, despite having all the bullshit initiatives all over the walls. very comfy, although my boss is a complete dickhead who tries to constantly shift blame and the goalposts every 2 or 3 days.
>be me
>work in security
>boss is a boomer ex-surveillance consultant
>installed constantly on cameras and microphones in all the company cars and in the equipment rooms
>everyone at the company has to wear a constantly on bodycam
>work phones autistically track all movements and patrols
>"15 mins early in on-time, anything else is late"
>But if you actually clock in 15 mins early he has HR adjust the time to whenever you were actually supposed to clock in
>Same with staying after unless authorized
>using personal phone or any other device is grounds for instant dismissal
>cars also have beepers in them that beep at you if you sit for more than 10mins in the same place
>decide one day i'm done with this bullshit
>start blatantly using my personal phone in front of the cameras
>show up exactly on time, not a minute earlier, leave exactly when scheduled, refuse to stay after for any reason unless they agree to pay for my time
>move the car one inch when the beeper goes off, move it back to the same position
>stop using body cam unless i'm talking to a client or dealing with an unruly person
>boss gets incredibly butthurt and threatens to fire me
>"Okay, do what you feel you need to, i'm not going to show up unless i'm getting paid and I don't care for the constant surveillance"
>They hire a guard to replace me but keep me scheduled for another week to train him
>He gets fired on day 2 for sleeping and showing up 15 mins late both shifts
>They can't even find anyone else after that so they hold off on firing me
>Every time they hire a new person they last only for a week or two before they frick up beyond all saving (because they keep hiring nigs lmao)
>Boss literally can't afford to fire me because i'm the only guard covering 2 different sites and if they drop coverage they will loose the client
>boss finally just gives up and accepts that i'm not going to play along with his bullshit
This movie is accurate. Literally just stop giving a frick.
I worked security for 7 years, eventually being promoted to shift lead and then site supervisor. You can be the absolute worst employee ever, but if you at least show up each day and aren't late you'll be invincible. It's extremely rare to find people that will reliably show up (or work overtime if needed).
>>But if you actually clock in 15 mins early he has HR adjust the time to whenever you were actually supposed to clock in
Super illegal, but it happens everywhere all the time.
>>But if you actually clock in 15 mins early he has HR adjust the time to whenever you were actually supposed to clock in
What an absolute c**t
>>move the car one inch when the beeper goes off, move it back to the same position
HR only exists to be company men who make goddamn sure to protect the company from liability of any type. They don't give a flying frick about employees unless it threatens the company in some small way.
>I think it's the supervision that got me the most.
seems like you worked one step up from a labor job, so of course everyone's breathing down your neck, since you didn't show your capacity to have independent thoughts
the blue collar tards NEED supervision ALL the time or they will slack off
higher up the office job ladder you switch to a few reviews per year of what you're doing and you're mostly left off on your own, because they if you don't drool people assume that you are capable of not doing extremely stupid shit
>pic
based, he's probably gonna inherit the trailer anyways
I can get some of it. I remember working at a movie theater and half my coworkers were busy being useless going off into corners and using their phones the whole time. There has to be a balance between the work getting done and giving people the flexibility and space they need to be happy as they work. And there are jobs like that, if the place you're at doesn't have it, just leave and find another one, it's not like it's hard, there's tons of them.
You'e working on Epstein's private island dude.
I rewatched this recently and felt like making a Lumbergh post on Friday but forgot
Next week I won't and on Friday afternoon Lumbergh will want (You) to come in on Saturday
Reminder that his office was primarily doing y2k shit and everyone involved would have gotten shitcanned in a few years anyway.
It's not like companies don't get new contracts.
It's not like companies go out of business with a weak business model and a main building that just got burned down. I'm sure their tech firm handled the tech bubble implosion well lol.
Yet the programmers immediately got new jobs and were willing to help him get his foot through the door as well. They all stayed in the shitty company that they hated because they were ruled by fear.
Because y2k hadn't happened yet and the nasdaq crash was still a little over a year away when that movie was made. Like 90% of "tech" companies ate shit and died.
So what? It's not like programmers and other tech workers were forced on the streets. If anything managers probably had the hardest time finding new jobs.
>t. Man about to be replaced by fake AI
I'm sure you're good with a hammer though you'll be fine
I've actually brought this up in my company because simple AI could do 95-98% of my job, but no on cares about it, we're providing a quality product and can't afford AI frickups. Also everyone is lazy, it's easier to just keep things going as they are.
They never would have made it through the 08 recession either. I imagine all the guys that worked there are doing other shit like running a coffee shop or selling toys on ebay at this point in history.
Delusional. I got to know guys who went through that, Y2K and now. Some changed jobs, sure, but still in the segment. At my current current job there's a 60 year old who went through two buyouts of the company and he's still here.
>stop showing up to work
>they schedule you on vacation and you keep getting paid
there is no escape
Hey Dad, I don't think I'm gonna do hamster style anymore.
Reminder that this movie ends up with him doing manual labor for work. Imagine OP trying to swing a hammer kek
didnt that guy just want to be a highly paid college proffessor? so they did want to work... just not very hard and for high pay lmao.
he was pretending to be busy shoveling a 1 foot pile. wow, big deal.
I'm a NEET with inheritance money so I don't know what the frick you guys are on about.
hows the existential dread sitting with you
just bought jordan's sneakers
It's there whether you're working for Steinberg Corp. or not.
hell yeah dude. you know how to live. not as a slave, but as a free man
>man could have any pair of shoes he wants
>gets Black person sneaks
so not sitting with you too well i guess
No existential dread whatsoever. I am a bit autistic so that helps.
you fricking moron, oh yeah everyone undergoing an existential crisis just needs a fricking job. there's nobody employed that regrets their whole life
go to the bathroom
i dont need to go to the bathroom, you need to sit with the fact there's no cure for existential dread
I've been around it for years, you just adapt and mitigate. Dwelling on it is illness. You're not smarter, you're actually a fricking moron for focusing on it. The cashier knows it too.
anon you're kind of missing the point. all the money in the world can't give you purpose in life.
anon youre kinda missing the point, describe the objective solution for existential crisis. not having money is not one. having money is not one.
I literally stopped doing anything but calling into meetings for past two weeks, without even turning camera on. One call I've had my laptop on the sink while I was throwing up.
I make what I consider to be a lot of money at my job, but I hate it. I'm seriously thinking of just quitting, but I'm worried that down the line I'll just be stuck working an even worse job for less pay. Shit sucks, it's a mental trap.
i realized recently i don’t need my job. i understand i do have to work and right now i think the work i do is challenging and engaging, but it wouldn’t be worth staying at the job if it wasn’t. kind of a good feeling. i might just drop out buy a van and go play around for a couple years who knows
>drop out buy a van
sounds like midlife crisis shit those years aint coming back buddy no mattar what just try to pick up a less annoying job and do something else
so what the frick if it is?
>nooo you can’t just have fun
i’ve been working on other things for years and one of them is starting to pop off. been a dream since my 20s to do this but i had to find a way to make it happen
If you don't like your job get a better one, that's what I did.
I actually like my wagie job cause I listen to my music al day eat free food work perfect schedule and I'm my own boss most of the time but it's when all my zoomie coworkers call in that life becomes miserable. Helps having a hot wife at home
I don't like my job, but I don't hate it. So I guess I like it. Beats most jobs.
been there. i went and got a different job for the same pay but a bigger company and the work load was much less. and i got an 8% 401k match.
just be a woman and marry a guy and refuse to work. thats equality.... wait...
I started a job at starbucks like 3 months ago and already want to quit cause of a girl I worked with. It was fun going to work and flirting and shit but she left 2 weeks ago and I have no motivation or energy to continue cause the job itself is utter shit. I used to love working everday and even would request overtime just to talk to her
She left because of (You)
You could have asked her for her number right before she left. Worst case she says no and you never see her again.
I remember there was this girl i loved showing up to talk with one day manager says she quit said she got a better job somewhere else and i never saw her again idk why it stung knowing she moved on and im still stuck at this shit job since we both said were gonna quit it sooner or later but she actually did.
at my last job 1 guy finally quit and then we lost 15% of our staff in over the next year. its cool to see people finally realize they can leave. i also left. good luck bro.
at my last job I was the guy who quit first and within 2 months everyone else (not a very big team) had left too lol
thats a real thing in any job once people see someone who did the most work or has been there a long time quit they quit as well thinking if they could find something better so can i. This is why these scumbag companies sometimes wait till you quit to give you a promotion.
Why didn't you ask for her number? Come on man...
A week before she left I asked for her number actually but the thing is she left me on read, but the very next day she went back to flirting with me and acting like nothing happened. I then sent her another text after work joking that she will probably spill a ton of drinks closing and she still ghosted me. On her last day we closed together and I was going to ask her out but she kept pretending she was busy doing things and told me she had to leave right away and I didn't get a chance.
And she did nothing but flirt and compliment my looks, she gave all the signs she liked me yet at the same time it seemed like she didn't want a relationship or something, I don't get it. I still have her number and think if I should message her. it's been 2 weeks since she quit
She was flirting with you because she was bored at work.
Sounds awful. I love WFH so much
Why give me your number then? She could have rejected me right then and there yet give me her number knowing I'd like to keep in touch but ghosts me instead
Women will spin some bullshit about how they've learned they have to fear for their lives when they reject a man in person etc. etc. but it's because they're cowards and don't have the balls to do it face to face.
Why are you assuming she knows why she is doing anything? It was fun in the moment and she is moronic
I've never been in a relationship, but have gotten hit on a lot and am told I'm cute. I'm 27 and she was 19 so yeah I'm stupid in thinking she is smart or anything. Yet it seems common sense to not treat people like that
>virgin loser
opinion discarded
>Yet it seems common sense to not treat people like that
Woman + teenager + zoomer + hot has got to be the worst predisposers for behaviour.
>Women rejecting a source of attention that might turn into a source of resentment
Yeah, it's probably best nothing came of that anon.
Do not text her. I've been there, the worst thing you can do is give her even more attention. If there is even a slight chance of her wanting to hook up with you it will only come to her mind with time. You have given her enough attention already.
Just delete her number, man. It sucks but he already let you know she’s not interested
My job is 90 percent driving around in a white pickup truck 10 percent checking hardware on utility poles. $46.74/hr union bennies all the overtime (x2 pay) I want
How do you get these jobs? My friend drives around in a truck and checks water levels and basically just chills all day. He said just apply with the city but they never ever call you back.
Sounds like a dream, who could want more?
I would listen to audiobooks while driving and be almost completely satisfied.
It's really boring most of the time. I'll play my switch and phonepost here or on reddit to pass time but I really miss being around other people. It's 10 hours a day completely alone in the middle of nowhere usually.
That sounds like a dream. You should probably have more appreciation for it. I'm so tired of working with people. The only people who I enjoyed working with were mostly relatives and family.
I've started my first office job as an intern. Any advice on how not to frick up and to keep as much of my soul as possible?
work for a company that is generally doing well. a company in decline will lose staff and cut budgets everywhere.
Ping the CEO on slack/teams/whatever you use and ask him for advice.
drive to the pub on your dinner break and get shitfaced. when you get back to the office, they'll understand your power level
>intern
just realize nobody gives a shit about you and you're there for the line on your resume. Don't worry about it, try to learn something but don't bug people because they don't actually want to help you
Office job is all about pretending. How your work is perceived is more important than the quality of that job.
Here are some tips
>Do NOT draw heat towards you
>Keep contact with females to a minimum
>Do not engage into gossip
>If someone that's not your boss wants your opinion about X coworker he's just trying to see how much of a snake you are
>Do not accept any task from someone that's not an immediate superior
>Always look busy and never, ever, say out loud that you're light on workload
>Stretch your tasks as much as possible and make them seem complicated
>The reward for being fast and efficient is more work, adapt to the average productivity
>Look somewhat stressed
>Never appear indifferent if your boss asks for your opinion, even if most likely you don't give a frick
Pretty much pic related, it's got to look good from the outside.
What's your position and how long have you been working?
I've been working as a programmer in a bank for 5 years.
Unironicly youll stay in the same position forever with that approach. But that might be your thing.
I've doubled my salary in the last 3 years, so I guess that's projection.
Enjoy working your ass off.
What are you on?
this is how I work and I'm only 28. I get caught out sometimes but not enough to raise alarm bells for very long. I have got into a very bad habit of pouring whiskey into my coffee cup during meetings though and whilst no-one can smell it I wonder if they can tell instinctively over the webcam.....
they can't, it's just bugs in your brain making you twitchy
everyone's too busy looking at themselves in the camera due to self consciousness/vanity
i sometimes feel very alone and depressed when i think about how we're all in our own little bubbles of existence
They don't, I've drank whisky during meetings and even attended them drunk and nobody said anything. Sometimes I even play video games during them.
They probably can tell from the face you make after you take swig, beating the table and going "GOD DAYUM"
I do that when drinking coffee black anyways
This is all good stuff
>If someone that's not your boss wants your opinion about X coworker he's just trying to see how much of a snake you are
I've almost fallen for that trap before (even if it wasn't the intention). My only solution is to speak on the strengths and positive qualities of X coworker instead of being critical. It usually spins the conversation in a positive way or they change the topic.
I can only think of one coworker that I really, really didn't like working with in all my times of working, but even then he had positive qualities I'd highlight if his name was brought up in conversation.
my father has two modes, working 6-20 or laying on couch watching sports
any teacher anons ITT? It actually pays decently in my district and I could retire at 55 comfortably, Im subbing soon to get a feel for it
The most draining part of being a teacher is that most of your kids don't want to learn.
When I was a kid, I was sent to a "good school". I didn't like it because I had to leave my old friends and didn't really understand the concept of a "good school" or why it mattered. As an adult, I understand completely. School just doesn't work unless the kids have stable reinforcement and encouragement from all involved parties. The kid needs a stable home life with parents who encourage learning, he needs a good teacher, and he also needs classmates who have the same. If any of those pieces are missing, it fricks everything up. If you look at the single motherhood epidemic, the wretched state of the school system makes perfect sense. I think if you send your kid to a public school with nog offspring of single moms, that's equivalent to child abuse.
the ones who do want to learn and actively try to quickly figure out that school is generally not the place for that
the most draining part of being a teacher is learning that your kids are correct to not want to be there, even if you're good and caring enough to make your class a bright spot for them. most of the teachers you meet never figure that out, because the ones who do quit.
Teachers are the scum of the earth whose purpose is to abuse children.
The 6 purposes of schooling:
1 - teach unquestioning compliance by forcing children to agree with things which are visibly false
2 - conform all children, smart with the stupid
3 - prohibit learning more than required
4 - ridicule and ostracize undesirables so their peers see them this way to keep them from breeding
5 - categorize everyone
6 - select custodians to take over this
While not one of the original stated purposes of schooling, a 7th was added post WW2 when depopulation via war was deemed too dangerous to our rulers and they moved to using propaganda for that purpose.
7 - keep women in schooling as long as possible so they are not having families
All other societal problems stem directly from schooling. Do not mistake it for education.
Truest shit ever said on this board. Frick teachers. They need to be domed.
kek sorry a teacher called you out for being a gay one timr
>teachers calling you a gay
>not snitching on you for calling other people a gay
you out of touch homo
Lol quit seething about shit that happened in school, getting mad about ancient history
if my seethe is meaningless, so too is your precious rent-seeking occupation
>prohibit learning more than required
my textbooks usually had exercises or sections marked with * or "advanced" that wasn't part of main curriculum but if you did those you could get bonus grades which I suppose was meant for kids interested in given subject to guide into and reward them for interest
Agree
t. Quit a degree in teaching because of the people teaching it and the people around me
I tutor independently and it rules
Pretty much the only reason I'll never be a teacher, even though it's basically my dream job. I can't bring myself to go through so much effort that's inevitably going to be wasted. I do admire the good ones who do push through and give it their all though, even if it's mostly fruitless.
I really liked my homeroom teacher, most of our class did. We pitched in for a diner, corny photo and some candy for 10 years after finishing high.
Breh it wouldn't *be* fruitless if you were teaching things that were useful in ways that were interesting
It's not on children to know better or on them to entertain what they might correctly intuit to be useless or detrimental.
You don't think that's in any way a you problem? Or a reflection that you're not teaching them anything useful.
Chemistry is actually very useful to pre-meds. They're just morons who don't want to learn anything.
Have you made any sort of effort to find out the interests and goals of your students, and teach the material on those terms?
I mean, I get that the main problem is that education is compulsory and the pupils are forced to be there.
t. high school teacher
I'm just venomously infectious with my positive attitude towards the subject and ignore the kids who actively refuse to do anything, which is very rare. You genuinely have to have/adapt a certain attitude for teaching or you'll be consumed by the malaise. I'm just a naturally peppy person most of the time, and on days where I don't have the necessary energy I tend to have slower-paced/solo/quiet assignments, which is also an important aspect of classroom management.
Any student who doesn't match the energy and expectations the first time know to be a bit more chipper when they repeat the class.
Unless you're at a school with good students and a nice staff I wouldn't suggest it. Like
says most of the students at best will not give a frick in any lessons and be glued to their phones and at worst will be actively detrimental to the lesson. The staff can be even worse. It was at times the best job I've ever done but I couldn't do it until retirement unless I was in a very specific school.
Thanks. I live in a pretty good district, so not too worried about that, I just have to do something. Failed as a paralegal after 3 years, waiting tables now, life sucks
>all those hours spent playing minesweeper, solitaire, chess and pinball
>sometimes an excel spreadsheet with macros would contain a game
>best one I had was called "toss the paper"
>mfw I spent most of my career living like this
They know that they can only post two threads, so like fishing with two rods they're abusing this so they can get more replies.
You see it all the time here, identical threads.
It’s not the job or work itself that bothers me it was always worrying they would hire a new guy who would end up being a chad and he just ends up hooking up with the girl I had a crush on for months. I should really find a job working alone.
sounds like there's lots of fellow dev anons itt. working from home and fixing a few bugs here and there is exactly what you're wishing for
You unironically deserve it if you have a "crush" as a grown man and don't act on it. Fortune favors the bold and time waits for no man. Either ask her out or accept it when someone else does. No one to blame but yourself. "Crushes" are for preteen girls.
I was a temp for 4 years, then I just stopped showing up. They called me for a month until they stopped. One of my bosses even called my during a night on saturday and I didn't answer. They probably thought that I would do something to myself. The reason I stopped though was because I had mental problems and had a massive burnout. I got diagnosed with schizophrenia later. I have another job now and it's permanent. So everything worked out in the end, I'd like to not be schizo though.
>temp for 4 years
homie wat, fricking kek
I was really young and they kept hiring me.
That's hilarious.
What are your symptoms of being schizo? I'm wondering whether I should get checked out, but I'm not sure that being diagnosed would benefit me in any way.
I stopped sleeping, thought I could read people's minds, started seeing people I know outside, thought people were after me and that cars were out to get me, thought I was seriously ill and there was constant flow of bullshit coming to my brain so that I couldn't think clearly.
I still get all of that, but only during bad days.
Shit, I see "people" like once a month and I feel like I'm being followed most of the time, mostly when I'm driving. I don't have a sleeping problem but I sometimes wake up in the middle of the night laughing hysterically, crying or scratching my head, and I have a problem remembering those things the next day. Did you go to a doc or something? you take meds?
I can't remember my episodes either after. Mine got so bad that I was taken to a mental hospital, where I stayed for 2 weeks and got medication.
I hope you'll find peace bro. What are your thoughts on the meds? I'm kinda scared that meds would make me moronic, even more...
I probably wouldn't be here without the meds. I haven't told people that I'm a schizo and they probably wouldn't believe it if I told them because of how normal I appear.
Things are good though for me.
invasive negative thoughts that you can't control. schizos never smile.
Even a cozy WFH job isn't that great. I just want to make art all day and travel. Dealing with other people's problems is tiring.
i will do WFG any day over factory/office jobs i wake up bullshit around for half the morning
clock in and bullshit around till im tagged, meeting or need to do tech support for some company
clock out and bullshit the rest of the day its comfy
Yeah and I want to get paid to rub coconut oil on Eva Green's breasts, but that's not gonna happen.
You think I'm being ungrateful but I can't even afford an apartment near civilization with this wage.
Kek you're waking up to the truth so you say but you still like use diction like "cozy" lol. homosexual.
my job in the US still hasn't found out I moved to Europe. been 11 months now.
oh look it's another Cinemaphile NEET momma's boy b***hes crying about having to work for a living, thread
grow up you fricking homosexuals
>grow up you fricking homosexuals
>clicks on the Catalog button
>Enters another celebrity gossip thread
>Posts about feet or racebait or some other bullshit
Yes we mature men have to stick together, don't we?
>posts screenshot from clint's most cucked movie (that's really saying something)
that's the spirit, let em know they dont own you.
This is pretty much me.
>be active military
>get out and join reserves
>unit is stationed in Hawaii
>get a civilian job that pays ~60k in a midwest state
>absolutely hate it
>take orders back to Hawaii for 3 months at a time
>making literally 3 times as much as my civilian job
>civilian job can't fire me til I'm gone for 5 years
why do older generations act as if working was some sort of moral obligation? I mean sure, gotta survive on something but nowadays 50 percent of jobs are pointless and add no real value to society, even creating false incentives etc. I also feel that the whole shtick about "making the world a better place for the generations to come" is just a hollow phrase. old people nowadays would seethe to the max if Star Trek tier living without any need for manual labor and infinite resources was a fact.
most people don't think about anything beyond themselves and cannot conceive of circumstances being different and prefer to jump to the most generic conclusions about things. that's where the NPC meme comes from.
Back in midcentury working an ordinary job would yield a home, support a family, etc. so the people who held those jobs equated it to the value of those things. Now it's apparent that the two are disconnected. People want purpose but they also want to work for something better than their current circumstances.
>this entire thread
>Thinking Cinemaphile is for discussing Television & Film
Cinemaphile is for b***hing about real life and the movie or show in the OP is for giving that b***hing a focusing theme. You wanna talk about a movie, go into or start a genny and pray it doesn't derail.
I did this but then I got another job but one that I liked.
>t. Hvac tech that didn't want to be a salesman.
Jesus, an actual well paying trade rather than trying to play psychological chess with clients
>well paying
Anon it pays well in the summer time but work slows down in the winter time. It even out to about (for me) 35k a year. And all the while the company wants you to sell shit they didn't sant a month ago when they bought the unit but your on a "free" maintenance look, only trying to find somthing to sell them or your on afirst time call telling them they need a new unit because their flame sensor had too much carbon build up on it and you "could clean it but the boss said you need a new one because it could fail and that'll be 300 bucks" frick this trade.
>getting an HVAC job outside of the Sunbelt
I'm in New mexico..
>I am an angry zoomer who regularly posts images of houses from 1980s sitcoms and seethes about what I feel entitled to
Feel free to have a nice day at any time, preferably right now
I used to work in a building with lots of small companies, there was a sales firm there where apparently the lowest performing team would have to do something as punishment, can't imagine being a sales wagie
>mfw I'm bored in the office looking out the window and see a bunch of guys fully suited up running laps around the building
What's your guys opinion on dating coworkers? Seems everyone says not to do it, but then where are you supposed to meet someone if you spend half your day at a job?
don't do it
I spent years commiting the mistake of just looking for reasons to say "no". All it resulted in was me being alone, having said no, no and no.
If you're genuinely interested, throw the dice. Dont go around hitting on every chick with a pulse at your workplace, and think of the consequences of her saying no and make sure to play it off in a way that things can stay atleast decently professional.
have you tried it or are you rationalizing your situation?
The latter, and my current job is filled with boomers and being the youngest in the office there isn't anyone here that interests me. That and how many said boomers who mentioned that they met their spouses at work.
then shut the frick up
>but boomers did it
lol lmao
Okay then, never throw the dice and stay alone then. If I feel like it at a future job (or a new hire here) I won't let this type of hesitation stop me. Oh and >boomers include my boss who is 35.
I'm not alone and I threw the dice at a workplace once. Maybe you'll have better luck, but stop bickering and fantasizing without experience.
>"A or B?"
>"In the past I picked A over B, and in the long term I regretted it."
>"Have you ever picked B?"
>"Nope. But I've interacted with others that have and it well for them. If I get an opportunity for B in the future I intend to go for it"
>"Then I will pick A."
>"Then you'll get the same outcome as me. Suit yourself."
>"Don't bicker about A or B until you've tried both"
I feel like we're both being stupid here.
Anyway anything that results in "what could have been" cope = bad.
I discourage you, but you do you and that'll be on you, good or bad. You argue like a woman. I agree on last sentence
>Seems everyone says not to do it
Yeah, but mostly it's fine as long as they aren't your subordinate. Look at America's #1 workplace romantic comedy The Office.
my parents met at work. still together over 30 years later
Only if you trust the person you're dating to be cool if you break it off. That's a big gamble these days.
I worked a call center out of collage. I absolutely hated it. It was a call center for the general public, specifically the bottom of the barrel public, real scum of the earth. And management wanted us to be the callers b***h, so basically I was underneath scum on the hierarchy (thanks bachelors degree!) One night I just had it with the shit and walked out mid shift, only they had fricked the schedule up and I was the only person working so I left the entire call center empty for like 5 hours. I don't understand how people can withstand these soul crushing jobs like that. Do you have no dignity? No pride?
I'm half way to retiring at 40. Should have about 1 to 1.5M in stocks to pull from depending on what happens in the next 5 years. Living comfortably off less than 50k at the moment.
Toil looms
I work in IT at a big corp in the EU and I'm miserable despite being very well-paid.
There is nothing for me here. The women are rancid garbage. Feel like I'm just wasting time and burning my life away.
I have enough saved to just quit and travel around SEA for years, but I'm afraid to take the plunge.
Anyone have experience with crises like this?
perfect zoomer ghosting mentality
I got my dream job one and a half years ago and I already hate it with a passion. There's no such thing as a good job.
My dream job is getting paid a million dollars a month to pick my boogers in bed.
What's yours?
Sex Toy Tester at Tenga for a million and one dollars a month
That'd be pretty cool
WFH is fricking fantastic. Anytime I want I can just open up notepad and put my coffee cup on the spacebar so teams doesn't go to 'away' status then just wander off and do my thing. Don't have to listen to colleague bullshit, don't have anyone looking over my shoulder, can generally do whatever the frick I want with my time so long as scheduled tasks get cleared. I do all my household chores on company time.
just enter a meeting with only you and set your status to available. teams stays green the whole time and the cpu never goes to sleep. first thing I do when I clock in everyday.
I know a guy worked at Samsung and they had cardkey readers by toilets which counted away from your time at work.
37 here without degree, career or non-dead end wagecuck job experience. Never had a relationship and obviously a virgin. No friends. I'll kms on my 40th birthday.
you can still pick any certification you want and have a real job easily by 39. get in the gym and get in shape and you can land a decent 30 year old girl. Start going to church and give your life to Jesus Christ. Your lifespan is 80 years, it's not too late.
i think i struck a nerve, and i am sorry anon. good luck with your existential crisis
I have work tomorrow, I don’t want to go to sleep but if it don’t tomorrow will be hell. I hate going to work and doing nothing then get treated like a c**t for wanting to work at work to distract myself from the nothing
Just find a girl. I know I know right? Haha sounds like a bad deal. But you're already in the circle. Try it. It can go wrong but you WILL feel better. For a while. Or lifetime. Who can tell!
> distract myself from the nothing
I know that feel Anon.
I’m a workforce admin at a call center.
I can work from home everyday, though I occasionally go to the office to keep appearances.
In a full day I do less than 2 hours of work. And then I just chill. I am actually working right now.
I have always dreamed of getting a bullshit fake email job that pays me for doing nothing. So dreams do come true.
Pay could be better though.
good morning sir
>Gen X: :^O
> *<:o)
I walked the soul sucking wagie path for big pharma finance. Lasted 3 years between 2 companies after getting a 3.5GPA finance BA from a mediocre school. I'm not really smart, so I was stumped as to how I got into these positions. Turns out corporate finance really doesn't require a brain. I'm now a firefighter in a major US city. I don't have the words convey the upgrade in quality of life.
What struck me in retrospect was the lack of pay drop. I've been in firefighting for nearly 3 years now and am back up to median salary for financial analysts at my first company. The benefits are almost on par, retirement was better in pharma, OT pay more than makes up for any small shortcomings FF has to offer.
The pay is the thing that keeps office drones in. I know. Can't say anything but persevere in yours.
The two were huge. I was in a development fast-track program at the first. Fresh out of college was 67k-ish if memory serves. Two years after that, upon enough positive reviews, you can start to chip into the low 90s. It really stagnates from there until you get the director rung of the ladder. The second company was worse, uncommon to have people over 110k unless you were on Sr Dir+, biostats, or legal.
I'm now at a base of 79k, 2x OT pay, shift differential pay, special team pay (hazmat), and I qualify for state-wide rescue programs. My work feels so much more impactful, and I feel much more at ease.
It's funny really, I used to get the shakes during quarter closes at company #2. I now have to deal with shit that will one-shot you if you frick up and I never get as wound up.
Why is it SO hard to find a full time remote job
Boomers are just forcing people back into the offices because it isn't about productivity, it's about control.
It's about inner city real-estate investment portfolios, mostly.
That's also true, but the enemy remains rich people.
When I was younger I worked at Walmart and every department manager, cashier manager, assistant manager, store manager, and support manager could kick you out of your department to work in theirs.
It got to the point where all these managers would give contradictory tasks you'd have to complete like outdoor carts and meat department at the same time.
At one point I had at least 30 managers i can reliably remember pulling my crew all over the place and we never got anything done on our area.
The store manager refused to kick out crackhead that got kicked out of the nearby stores and that made the parking lot scary.
>Used to have the comfiest office job
>just sending emails and wfh 2 days of the week
>boss was the coolest let me sleep in the office
>talk anime and movies with all my chill coworkers
>would always approve my PTO when I didnt have any
>boss leaves
>new boss takes away wfh
>co workers leave
>forces me to train new employees
>new employees are all women that just gossip
>leave job
>Now a NEET living with mom
>want to kill myself but studying AWS to become a solutions architect
Your coworkers and boss really make the job for you. I miss that job
>boss really make the job
>have office job
>it's great
>boss leaves
>new boss sucks ass
>work harder and harder to try to get her off my case
>get fired anyway
>friend on other team says his boss literally never discusses work with him, they just shoot the shit
This is the truth. The people are what make or break your job. I've seen comfy workplaces turn into mismanaged shitholes full of backstabbing parasites because of a change in management. It is a coin toss whether your workplace is going to be full of buttholes.
Bros I might have actually landed my first real adult job. After 2.5 years of trying and about 700 applications, I may have finally gotten one. 32 year old neet. I dont know how to do what they want me to do, but I think the interview went okay and they hit up a couple of my references who both said nice things. I feel like I'll need to ask for help on every little task. How do I fit in without being immediately fired?
>I dont know how to do what they want me to do
This is very normal. Asking questions is fine and expected, but a good suggestion is to take a bunch of notes, because asking the same question ten times over is no longer fine.
Okay that's good to hear. I dont understand how they can afford to hire someone like me who will be essentially a newborn child for a handful of months. Like when you're new at a job you're worse than useless, because you use other people's time by needing training. My (assuming I got the job) department will have only three other people besides me: a dean and two directors. How they can afford to take on such a long term investment is a mystery to me.
Another thing worth mentioning is that it's a newly created position. I'm hoping that means it will be on the easier side, since there will be no precedent.
>I dont understand how they can afford to hire someone like me who will be essentially a newborn child for a handful of months. Like when you're new at a job you're worse than useless, because you use other people's time by needing training.
Because everyone else in the market pool is the same, worse, or costs a whole fricking lot more. If someone was better suited than you at the same price point, they would have been hired instead.
I spent the first six months at my current job watching training videos and doing kiddy pool tasks feeling like an imposter, since I switched industries. It passes. You'll be fine. Take notes.
Just act normal. Most people are so moronic that if you aren't like most people and have a shred of competence you will be a god. Only social autism can hurt you. Act normal anon, ganbate.
Thanks for being so nice lads. It is a data analyst job, but for a school, so it won't really be a cubicle farm. I don't forsee accidentally revealing my power level or anything, but I do forsee not being able to relate to my coworkers at all. If I screw up, it will be due to incompetence, not social issues, as I'm just so grateful to finally get a real job after being so worthless all my life. I will take notes and try my best.
Like other said, act normal. Don't reveal your power level like if someone brings up movies probably best to keep it level headed and dont suggest something like Eraserhead or something too weird.
Ask questions and take notes. You will do a lot of training at first and it probably wont feel like you are actually working on anything until late into your 2nd week (assuming its an office job). Just get to meet people and be yourself. Dont ever act like you arent qualified or bring that up. Just be happy to be working there and let them know you will be doing your best. Also probably goes without sayong, but show up to work on time, or at the very least 10 min. before starting. Probably an hour before your start time on your first day is good. Half hour on second or third day, then cool it down to 15 or 10 min. from there. If theres nothing to do then you can always look around, talking to other employees, or do training, etc. Good luck anon you got this!
>Probably an hour before your start time on your first day is good
Do not do this. This is not normal behavior at all.
No, but on your first day though? That was my point. Also gives anon time to understand how to get there and avoid any roadblocks like doing paperwork or ID cards or parking, etc. This is all assuming anon works in an office job. If it is retail or food or something else then probably half hour or 15 min. early is doable.
>tfw tomorrow is monday
MONDAY IN THE 4HL
I found a cool WFH a few years ago with a hands off management style. I visit clients in person from time to time. I remember my previous job being hell.
I really like my job itself, but it doesn't pay a living wage, so I'm still stuck living with my parents. I've been thinking about trying to learn how to code. Is that still recommended?
>I've been thinking about trying to learn how to code.
I look at gay porn 8h a day and get paid for it.
I have been getting gay dreams because of how much gay vintage porn I look at. Some of the stuff is funny ngl
It's fricking impossible to get a job here in Brisbane
I've been looking for cleaning work, restaurant work, warehouse labouring, but no one wants to even get me in for an interview let alone hire me.
I have experience, but it's been impossible to find anything
I worked at semiconductor fab that ran 24 hours a day. Some interesting things I noticed:
>Night shift had weirdos but most of the people you encountered were relatively normal. They came to work to work, and showed understanding for how it sucked and wanted to help you.
>The day shift where we never had to work a Friday or Saturday was full of complete douchebags who were borderline moronic, never helped you do anything, and seethed like children if you refused to do shit for them that they could just do themselves.
>After transferring from night shift to day, people I'm working with in my area go from being hard-workers that talk to me normally and leave me be because they see I work hard to weirdos that bother me about nonsense all day and tell me shit I don't want to know about their personal lives before trying to become friends first. When I act weirded out they start talking mad shit about me all day right in front of me.
>Multiple times on this shift, I saw some of the leads in one section literally point and laugh at our supervisor and the lead who was buddy-buddy with her in a "team huddle", they didn't do shit. I tried to respectful to both of these women. They repaid me by making fun of me too.
>Supervisor and lead noticed I was a self-starter most days, then tried to make me do not only my job but also the job of this dumb cornball autist who was lazy as frick. Said autist's own mother fled the state and her old house transferring the mortgage to him just to gtfo away from him. I did this for a while, then stopped once I realized that if I stopped, nothing would happen. They couldn't do shit. They seethed hard.
>I quit months later on a whim and the supervisor was suddenly nice to me for no reason.
>Company policy was that my supervisor had to WALK ME OUT OF THE BUILDING on my last day. For some reason HR told me that I could choose to not be escorted out if I wanted but then my supervisor made me go along with this shit anyway.
Were there armed guards? Or at least concealed carry? It's what I saw at Intel in Israel.