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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    A classic Cinemaphile thread!

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Been awhile

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      🙂

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      this meme is really weird

      can anyone good at poker explain why checking the flop 2nd on a 4 way pot would be considered bad?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        it's not. in that spot you actually want your opponents to pick up a piece of something so they can call you later on. the only extra chips he would get on that board would be an overpair, a bluff, or some kind of funky hand like A 10 trying to just take it down. all of those are unlikely and even if his opponents thought they had something, they are likely to check too to slowroll their hand. checking is preferable to keep more people in until the end. in most cases on a board like that, whoever bets first will just induce folds from everyone else.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          did he play other parts of the hand poorly?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            No, aside from what the other Anon mentioned - his atrocious pained and labored acting calling on the turn, as well as all the tells he gave away when the flop came and he basically jumped out of his chair with excitement. But even if he didn't react like that, the other plays should expect him to have a range that includes a 10 or 6 since he was small blind to begin with.

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's not a bad check. He provoked opponent for bluff bet.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's not how it works

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        How does it work?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Xer is just bluffing

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm all in

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      the only correct play

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't get what he did wrong
    if he bet everyone would know he has good cards

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Betting on that flop would be preferable imo.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        the only mistake ol'e matt made was not over betting the river to make it look like he was bluffing.

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >bets
    >everyone else folds because they have nothing

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    can never be too sure. the first rule of poker is to always assume your opponent has the nuts. also, you're being broadcast across the country and if you couldn't sniff out the straight flush draw in that situation then you'd look like a goober.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      can you explain whats going on in the pic to someone who doesnt know what poker is?
      (no one outside the usa knows this card game)

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >(no one outside the usa knows this card game

        that's an interesting take. poker was invented in France and is played worldwide. The Euro tour has some more profitable evenst than some US tours. Southeast Asia has produced many champions.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Are you asking about the OP? I can explain it but it's not very interesting. Matt Damon has the nuts (the best hand possible) because 10101066 is a full house. He got super lucky and so he couldn't do anything but check and hope someone betted. People make fun of him but they're not very intelligent because if someone has a full house on the flop then nobody else has anything and they'll just be waiting to fold.
        In short, he had a super strong hand and he didn't get much money because if the other people have nothing, they won't put money in.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          check and hope someone bets*

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          check and hope someone bets*

          he did the right moves, no doubt, but his face and actions gave his hand away completely. The only guy who was fooled was Wilson, who bet after the flop. After that, no one would touch him. A better player would've made it look plausible that the SB was trying to steal the pot.

          Damon and Tilly and the other few actors who play are the very worst at hiding their reactions to good hands.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        even the comentator was laughing about how bad of an actor damon was, when the cards that favored him dropped he immediately reacted, he may as well said FRICK YEAH JACKPOT BABY and started dancing on the table because everyone on the table knew he got a good hand. After that there was nothing he could do to bait people into betting agianst his hand.

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    where is phil ivey at, black people are better at poker

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >that minor tremor

      Pure kino

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    As a actor your best asset would be the ability to show zero emotion regardless if your emotions are running (i.e hitting a full house on the flop with the pot inflated pre-flop)

    What Damon did was go full Matt Damon and pulled these moronic faces like he was trying to show discomfort from shitting his pants every time he hit the nuts, shameful.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't play poker at all and this is the only thing I noticed, dumbass overacted.

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >guy with aces have 0% chance
    >the guy with a king has a 1% chance
    whoever does the percentages is moronic

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Seidel had a tiny sub 1% chance to hit running kings whereas there wasn't two aces left in the deck so it was impossible for aces, moron.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Only two players had aces, moron. There were two aces left in the deck and if they hit they beat kings, learn the fricking game.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        There are literally 2 aces left in deck

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Seidel had a tiny sub 1% chance to hit running kings whereas there wasn't two aces left in the deck so it was impossible for aces, moron.

          An Ace was folded earlier

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            This

            Only two players had aces, moron. There were two aces left in the deck and if they hit they beat kings, learn the fricking game.

            There are literally 2 aces left in deck

            didn't even think to mention it as I forgot I was on Cinemaphile where morons like to pretend they know a lot about something they've never played in their lives

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          If there were the odds would be like 1/2000, and then they would still split the pot, so 0% is the most accurate estimate, also you’re a moron

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            No - if two aces came out, the holder of the ace would win entirely.

            moron

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              You are one dense motherfricker, infact most the discussion are dumb but you take the cake, the pot would be split between the two guys holding aces so technically neither can "win" outright you drooling moron

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ok anon

                You're incorrect, Wilson would with with his higher kicker. Have you even PLAYED poker before???

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                The kicker does not come into play with running aces on the turn and river. Both of them would be holding an identical hand, full house aces full of tens.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                They would each have AAATT as their best hand. I don’t know what else to say to (you)

                Kek what a moron. I love these threads, really illuminates the people with no clue + strong opinions. Not a single person ITT other than me could beat any microstakes game. If you think otherwise join a 5/10 table on any site, put the table name or your username in the thread, and I will sit you immediately.

                [...]
                I thought kickers only came into play when identical hands that are less than 5 cards are shown. AAATT is 5 cards so they are identical. but if both plays had a pair of Jacks then the guy with an Ace holed beats the other guy who has a 9

                I collected 4 (you)'s from such simple bait

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                [...]
                I thought kickers only came into play when identical hands that are less than 5 cards are shown. AAATT is 5 cards so they are identical. but if both plays had a pair of Jacks then the guy with an Ace holed beats the other guy who has a 9

                You put forward an argument about the way the game is played and I asked for help clearing it up because i wasnt sure, as I don't really play poker, but I was curious.
                Leave me out of your revelling.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh, well when you have the same hand as someoone, flush, two pair, pair, trips - the 'kicker' the other card in your hand, if it's higher than any card on the board, determines the winner.

                BOARD: ACE ACE TWO FIVE THREE
                Hand one: Ace NINE
                hand two: ACE TEN

                The Ace Ten is the better hand - as the best hand possible is three aces, the Ten, and the five

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                That makes sense thanks, but what happens when a potential kicker would be the 6th card of the hand? Could it be used or would it not matter?
                BOARD: ACE TWO THREE FOUR
                Hand one: Five NINE
                hand two: Five TEN
                Would this be a win for Player 2 or a split pot?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                i dont think split pot is the right term my bad. like the 2 players take half of the winnings each

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                i dont think split pot is the right term my bad. like the 2 players take half of the winnings each

                You can only use 5 cards to make the best hjand
                Split pot

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                thank

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                They would each have AAATT as their best hand. I don’t know what else to say to (you)

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Kek what a moron. I love these threads, really illuminates the people with no clue + strong opinions. Not a single person ITT other than me could beat any microstakes game. If you think otherwise join a 5/10 table on any site, put the table name or your username in the thread, and I will sit you immediately.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                poast yuor bankroll, gay

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >you're all morons and i'm really good at poker
                >so you must be really rich then, right? cause you're so good? why are you typing to a bunch of morons instead of being on ten tables right now?
                >u-uh...

                >microstakes
                Broke b***h detected. You have no experience playing real poker. Micros are just as bad as freerolls. They play nothing like real players

                >won't sit a table
                dismissed
                NEXT

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >you're all morons and i'm really good at poker
                >so you must be really rich then, right? cause you're so good? why are you typing to a bunch of morons instead of being on ten tables right now?
                >u-uh...

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >microstakes
                Broke b***h detected. You have no experience playing real poker. Micros are just as bad as freerolls. They play nothing like real players

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                They would each have AAATT as their best hand. I don’t know what else to say to (you)

                I thought kickers only came into play when identical hands that are less than 5 cards are shown. AAATT is 5 cards so they are identical. but if both plays had a pair of Jacks then the guy with an Ace holed beats the other guy who has a 9

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Every player must submit their highest hand. I’m not sure it can be simplified anymore than that. Every hand has 5 cards.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                no need to be anal about it, I'm not big on poker.
                so when each player submits an identical 5-card combination it's a split pot right?
                But in the instances of a pair or 2-pair, there are 'leftover' card/s which can be used to 'kick' their hand. If they have an ace in their hand for instance, it may beat whatever the other guy can produce or what is on the table.
                Do i have that right?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                yep. in this hand only runner-runner aces would've made a difference and an ace had been folded already. Even doing a great acting job wouldn't have improved Damon's outcome. When Wilson bet into him after the flop, Damon went into moron mode and quickly and loudly called then checked the same way after the turn. Everyone in the world knew at that point (except maybe Ben Affleck).

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Ok anon

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Ben, what're you doin' here?! Jennifer Garner's at home!!

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dude I almost had you!

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I never followed Damon's poker life. Anybody got any clips?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think he quit, he’s not very good and he didn’t want any more clips out there.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >he’s not very good

        If he's not good then he's just stupid. I guess that's why Matt Damon is nobody's favourite actor. The truth about Poker is that it's just a game where dumb people lose their money to smart people so that's why it's not popular.

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can someone explain this to me I'm a cardtard and don't know anything about poker and shit

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Can anyone spoonfeed me WAHHHH WAHHHH GOO GOO GA GA
      fricktard

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        yeah something like that
        im waiting

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          He has an unbeatable hand and does not bet

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Calm down chud I was just asking a question.

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Checking is the correct call: https://youtu.be/TmCZ21vylIE

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's not the play that's bad, it's the tells that killed him. When the other guy hit his 9, the only way he could lose is if Damon had a 10, which he gave away immediately when he saw the flop.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cinemaphile BTFO'ed

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      why do gamblers always whine about "you aren't playing right"? It's fricking gambling. I had some old b***h at a blackjack table demand I get kicked off the table because I kept hitting on 16

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Complaining about "poor play" is what the midwits of poker do. Pros want people to play badly because it makes them more money, and they have the discipline to accept the swings of luck.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          "WHY WOULD YOU PLAY THAT?"

          "Uh because you wouldn't expect it, stop crying Phil."

          So tired of hearing this shit from people at the table and online poker

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Complaining about "poor play" is what the midwits of poker do. Pros want people to play badly because it makes them more money, and they have the discipline to accept the swings of luck.

            If only the best starting hand should win, which is what you are complaining about, then why even have wagers and betting and bluffing? You play that way, allowing me to predict what you have and know when I have you beat.

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    how the frick do i learn poker?

    like I want to understand how it works so i can watch this clip / game and know whats going on

    im also going to vegas so i wanna play, is there a good website for learning how the game works and betting but not real money?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >how do i learn this extremely popular and simplistic card game in an age where there's literally hundreds of tutorials for almost everything a few clicks away
      damn this is a real mystery anon. how are you ever going to be able to obtain this arcane and esoteric knowledge

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      all the big poker sites like GGpoker or Pokerstars (I play on PS) in their client you can choose to play with real or play money. they even let you top up free 'play money' chips at intervals so you can never run out. using 'play money' is great for learning all the types of situations and helping you get to grips with the game, but players definitely play differently and much much tighter when there is real money involved.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Go on twitch / youtube and watch pros play, watch videos. Specifically when they show their hole cards so you can see how they play hands. Easy.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just don't look at your cards and bet blindly, go all in blind. Other players will seethe at you especially at professional competitions.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      imo just throw 40 bucks on a site. people on freerolls and free tables play in a completely moronic way
      if you have absolutely no idea how the game works you can play some freerolls to get a rough idea of how the game plays but people literally just shove preflop for the first 10 mins on freerolls

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Play some Red Dead Redemption 1 and 2, it has in game poker in the Taverns/ Bars you can play against the npcs to grasp the fundamentals of Poker.
      GTAonline also has a Casino you can play Poker in to get some understanding of the game without risking any real world money.
      This might sound like weird bait but I'm being 100% serious.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Those NPCs are filthy cheaters.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      learn how the hands work and what beats what. Once you fully understand that, watch hours of poker on Twitch and try to follow along as best as possible.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't
      If you have some dough get into real money tournaments and make poker players that play this shit for x years seethe beacuse they can't realistcly predict what the frick are you gonna do

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Lawl, that's great advice. It's nice when people explain to others how to lose all their money.

        how the frick do i learn poker?

        like I want to understand how it works so i can watch this clip / game and know whats going on

        im also going to vegas so i wanna play, is there a good website for learning how the game works and betting but not real money?

        The number 1 way to learn Poker is to play on Pokerstars because it has free money poker. Play as long as you need until you feel you understand the game.

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    just like a young man coming in for a quickie
    i feel so unsatisfied

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only incorrect play from Matt is checking on the river out of position. By calling the turn, you're basically signaling to the other guy that you have a 10, so there's no reason you should give him a get out of jail free card on the river by checking in front of him, just bet half pot and hope he's dumb enough to call.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I disagree with you, but I won't argue

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        if it was a cash game and you suspect the other person has a decent hand, there's nothing wrong with check raising.

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    god, gamer.

  19. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    What's the joke here? That Matt Damon isn't as heckin' epic slick as his Ocean Eleven's counterpart?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The joke is that he blew his cover by an obnoxious "I check" against a bunch of other poker autists.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      close, but it's about Rounders, not Oceans Eleven. Look it up or ask someone over 30 about Rounders.

  20. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    How common are different types of poker in the USA in casinos and in the every-day?
    I have only ever played hold-em and nobody I know has ever played any other variant. I am a bong for reference.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I've played limit hold em (which sucks) and Pot Limit Omaha which is fricking insane and I couldn't even keep track of anything that was happening

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Omaha
        Just read the outline on it and yeah I don't like the sound of it. So many cards in hands would mess with my feel for likelihood of cards in the middle.

        I don't mind limit games however, if we're talking about bet limits. I find in low stake/friendly games people will bet silly amounts because little/no risk. that said I don't often play with people who are into cards and dice.

        Very very common. There’s all kinds of poker. I don’t know when Texas holdem became the default for “poker” but I don’t care for it. When I was younger if you said “poker” people assumed you meant 5 card draw.

        5 card draw was what i had in mind when asking, as it seems to be the next biggest variant. I have to assume that casinos in the US have tables for both. Would be a shame to go to Vegas only to have to hunt for a hold-em table.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >So many cards in hands would mess with my feel for likelihood of cards in the middle.
          My brain could not actually keep track of all the potential possible hands that I could make as draws, let alone my opponent.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'd be interested to give it a go just for the sake of it but I can't imagine myself liking it. That said I can see how you could have hands with more possibiltiies as the draws go on which is interesting. Typically only reaching for a specific hand in hold-em

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      only truly autistic people play anything besides hold'em. don't venture into that world.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Very very common. There’s all kinds of poker. I don’t know when Texas holdem became the default for “poker” but I don’t care for it. When I was younger if you said “poker” people assumed you meant 5 card draw.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      No limit texas hold em is the only fun way to play tbh

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        2-7 triple draw is way more fun and has way more chaos with each round

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      it really is the best white to use t. art teacher

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        do you happen to know if his stuff is worth buying? that is, if it is still sold

  21. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    BTW if you like poker a guy tried to start a poker general on Cinemaphile the other week, but it only lasted a couple days sadly. Mostly it was OP posting about his constant trips to casinos where he would play poorly and lose all his money and then come to us to rage about it.

  22. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >all this poker jargon
    This thread is more difficult to read than two Black folk tweeting at each other

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Now you know how people feel when you make your Sneed and feed injokes you fricking homosexual. Poker is not complicated

  23. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    KWAB

  24. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gambling is for sodomites

  25. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's way worse in the video. Hellen Keller could spot his tell

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wilson bet into him anyway after the flop. Everyone else wanted no part of it. Even Jen Tilly has a better poker face than that.

  26. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >all in

  27. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I fol- I mean call 🙂

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      *puts finger into ear* “I’m being told to call”

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      QRD? Bros?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        guy tried to scare her into a fold by making her go all in on a hand that he would probably win and then she calls instead and wins. everyone assumes she cheated somehow including the guy but they can't prove it. Later on she gave the guy the money back outside the table

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >famous poker dudebro and random girl have absolutely nothing and waiting for the fifth card
        >if nothing relevant for any of them drops the girl actually wins because J>8
        >mathematically dudebro is more likely to get a drop that favors him thus 53% chance to win
        >he bets basically trying to scare her pretending he has this amazing hand
        >she calls on his bet
        >fifth card drops and it's nothing girl wins
        >chud literally mentally breaks before going insane
        >NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY DID YOU BET HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY BET AGAINST MY BET DON'T YOU SEE YOU HAVE A BAD HAND MATHEMATICALLY YOU SHOULDN'T BET YOU'RE CHEATING NOBODY WOULD BET WITH A HAND LIKE THAT DON'T ASK QUESITONS ON WHY I EVEN BET WHEN I HAD NOTHING AND NEVERMIND WE'RE PLAYING A LITERAL GAME OF LUCK GIVE ME BACK MY MONEY OR I'M GONNA DO A SEXISM
        >girl laughs and gives him back his money to stop the tauntrum

  28. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    What's some poker kinos?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know but it's really sad that the game isn't popular enough for modern Poker movies. The only I can think of is Casino Royale.

  29. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Complaining about "poor play" is what the midwits of poker do. Pros want people to play badly because it makes them more money, and they ha-ACK!

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, he's a total hack. Something can't be a poor play if it wins you money. The whole point of live Poker is that you have the added bonus of attempting to read your opponents so that means decisions would be different to Game Theory Optimal. When playing live, any decision that leads to the win would be the right decision. I think Garrett is a midwit so he doesn't understand this and that's why he questioned her.

  30. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Was it autism?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Was what autism? Tom Dwan is the best. I watched this entire game, which was like 10 hours or some shit and Dwan owns both Polk and Wesley in huge pots. He's the best because he's played against the unreadable Chinese (see: Triton Poker) and he can hold his own against them.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        By the way, this call wasn't even impressive and I should have posted Dwan v Wesley. He's got a fricking full house in that video.

        QRD? Bros?

        Garrett is in a hand vs a woman and tries to bluff her and he gets called by nothing. She has like Jack high or something. Everyone thinks Garrett is good and he got owned.

  31. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    if you want cringe moments you needed to be following this year's WSOP Main Event. One slob, when they were closing in on the final table, got up and went to the rail to talk to his gf while the hand was in progress and when it came his turn to act the dealer mucked his hand because he wasn't even sitting at the table. He put on a crybaby scene for several minutes amounting to basically, "why didn't anyone call me over to the table? I was standing right there!". It was embarrassing, and he was the last to bust out before the FT, which was kino. There were two crybabies at the feature table as well and every shortstack was taking five minutes for each decision hoping that someone else would bust out.

    It was unwatchable and PokerGO.com didn't help with their poor broadcasting. They had a geeky little guy giving spot interviews to nobodies, in the middle of a hand, then they'd cut back to the table and the hand would be over, no idea who won it.

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