I hate how incredulous he gets at the end.

I hate how incredulous he gets at the end. Like the only people who seem to have a normal reaction to Veidt are Manhatten and Rorschach.
Meanwhile Dan is all
>y-you couldn't be faster than a bullet could you?
>no way you're joking Veidt! C'mon
lame-ass

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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Manhattan is the only person in Watchmen with powers. If your friend told you he could dodge a bullet, would you believe him?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >lame-ass
      well of course. He's the closest thing to a fanboy in universe.A somewhat well off kid who's smart(as a caveat of it being a comic book) who LARPS as a past hero he liked. This shit was never supposed to be "real" to him. He's smart, Veidt is world's smarter, stronger, hotter, more dedicated than him.
      If Nite Owl is a "Batman", Ozy is "Superman"(yes I know, Blue Beetle II and Peter Cannon, it's not a hard and fast expy.)

      The guy who made a full functional stealth jet in the year of the cold war (maybe years before)
      along with several biome specific suits. I'm really supposed to believe he was just a guy in over his head? Is that before or after he fights a villain dressed like a dominatrix?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The guy who made a full functional stealth jet in the year of the cold war (maybe years before)
        >along with several biome specific suits. I'm really supposed to believe he was just a guy in over his head?
        Again, caveat of being a comic book. Psychics exist, a near-hobo like Rorschach can own a tool like a grapple gun(when even Batman only had a batatang and a rope), Ozy can genetically engineer cats. Impressive but still a guy who isn't a "real" superhero.
        >Is that before or after he fights a villain dressed like a dominatrix?
        she pretty much was just a dominatrix. A disturbed but harmless weirdo who's biggest effect is making Dan realize he has a sexual attraction to cape business.

        no the closest thing to a fanboy was Metropolis. He didn't know what the frick he was getting into

        Superheroes didn't really exist long enough for him to be a fanboy. He's definitely in over his head but he's more of a trendhopper than anything.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Wasn't the grappling gun a gift from Dan?

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          He still built it. You can't just excuse something for being comic book shenanigans and then say his reaction to comic book shit is natural.
          Not only was Veidt the smartest man in the world he was shown to be the most athletic. By all accounts he was the closest thing to a Superhero after Manhatten.

          My beef is how Dan acts like such a newbie at the end. Standing around asking questions

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >By all accounts he was the closest thing to a Superhero after Manhatten.
            that gap, while he probed to be way more than just hype by catching the bullet, is still a huge gap.
            And it was after he realized they went on a wild goose chase while Veidt engineered the deaths of thousands of people.
            It's in Dan's nature to tremble in the sight of things that he can't control. When he's doing crowd control during the riots he's whining about the American dream.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >just a dominatrix
          I've always wondered what the frick was Moloch? Iirc doesn't he have elf ears?

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Just born that way. My theory is that he has some psychic ability, but just wrote it off as being lucky or clever and parlayed that into a crime career.

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              I know this is slightly off topic you’ll probably disagree but I really just want to say this.
              I personally I feel like that is the key to the only way a Watchmen sequel could work. Every attempt at a Watchmen continuation has failed to grasp that Watchmen is the end of the superhero golden age. The only way a sequel could work is to show the start of the silver age as superpowered mutants or psychics start popping up and the US scrambles to try and use them to replace Doctor Manhattan

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                While I don't particularly think or have high expectations of a Watchmen sequel or think it'd work, I'd actually agree. I long have held that people don't get the point of the Squid being what it is-I hold that it's basically meant to be the watchmen world's take on the big centerpiece alien- Starro in Justice League's debut, Galactus in Fantastic Four, etc. Ozymandias is effectively making his own mythology, down to making a cartoon and action figures.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                forgot my pic

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                I’ve actually been considering how a Watchmen sequel would work for a little while now, and the idea I had was the squid’s blood evaporated and acted as a mutagen turning a lot of people worldwide into mutants
                The story is a commentary on the horrors of the draft as various governments start forcing mutants into costumes heroism under Ozy’s watchful eye

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                You made me summon my inner-Alan Moore, there's so much contempt in my heart.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Eh, fair. Never said it was a good idea. But I still think future writers shoot themselves in the foot with the No supers rule

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >future writers
                There are no future writers, the story is over. Watchmen doesn't need to run on forever no matter how hard DC is trying to make that happen.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah I agree with you there.
                Unfortunately part of me has accepted that DC will never let it die no matter what happens so I use these hypotheticals as a way to guess the best case scenario

                Ideally, Watchmen is just left alone and allowed to be what it is. But if not my hope is that it’s just another story in the same universe that lets the main characters remain as they are

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                That’s one thing I like about tv series and King’s Rorschach mini, both treat and use the squid to show its lasting impact on people afterwards and it’s making people have all kinds of psychological issues, especially in the King story where aliens are “true” now and people go insane thinking about it and it becomes a plausible psychosis

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            In the prequels, he's just a deformed kid who learned some magic tricks and then went full sociopath after getting cucked by two bullies he thought he'd won over.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Moloch is basically just a guy with a mild deformity and maybe slight, slight psychic abilities since that was established to be true thing in the world. Nothing more. He exists so that the characters could have someone that was a former nemesis and a super villain but still be basically just a guy like everyone else

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            pretty sure that's a simple plastic surgery

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The guy who made a full functional stealth jet in the year of the cold war (maybe years before)
        >along with several biome specific suits. I'm really supposed to believe he was just a guy in over his head?
        Again, caveat of being a comic book. Psychics exist, a near-hobo like Rorschach can own a tool like a grapple gun(when even Batman only had a batatang and a rope), Ozy can genetically engineer cats. Impressive but still a guy who isn't a "real" superhero.
        >Is that before or after he fights a villain dressed like a dominatrix?
        she pretty much was just a dominatrix. A disturbed but harmless weirdo who's biggest effect is making Dan realize he has a sexual attraction to cape business.
        [...]
        Superheroes didn't really exist long enough for him to be a fanboy. He's definitely in over his head but he's more of a trendhopper than anything.

        All of that technology and shit was only possible because of Doctor Manhattan. Same with the fabric for Rorschach's mask.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why would any of that prevent him from being surprised that a human could catch a bullet with his bare hands? What are you going on about?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh for fricks sake. He’s smart enough to create some patents and build few devices. He isn’t a genius like Veidt or Manhattan who worked together to revolutionise the tech industry to a point everyone used electric cars in the 80s.

        He is over his head because he was just a guy who did the hero game for kicks and then retired and knows he isn’t as formidable as someone like Veidt and wtf is he supposed to do when Adrian already nuked NYC and exposing the lie would throw the world back to the brink of Armageddon

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      How did Veidt train to get to those speeds again?

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >lame-ass
    well of course. He's the closest thing to a fanboy in universe.A somewhat well off kid who's smart(as a caveat of it being a comic book) who LARPS as a past hero he liked. This shit was never supposed to be "real" to him. He's smart, Veidt is world's smarter, stronger, hotter, more dedicated than him.
    If Nite Owl is a "Batman", Ozy is "Superman"(yes I know, Blue Beetle II and Peter Cannon, it's not a hard and fast expy.)

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      no the closest thing to a fanboy was Metropolis. He didn't know what the frick he was getting into

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Who was he simping for? "The Allmighty Dollar"?

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Watchmen
    >people are fundamentally good
    >Captain America
    >I got brainwashed into a Nazi except it wasn't actually me except maybe it was?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      god. man. just thinking about that kid and the newsstand owner at the end is making me emo

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Never noticed what a weird hat/helmet Malcolm is wearing there.

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