I hate what this show is doing to Obi-Wan.
Obi-Wan was always the kind of hero who would be optimistic even though everything seems lost. He would be sassy and crack jokes in the face of danger.
Just look at The Clone Wars. Maul killed the love of his life, and he still managed to get up and do what must be done.
When he meets Vader for the first time since Mustafar, he mocks him.
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Yep but Disney writers think making a character a failure is the only way to give them depth.
Write what you know has that as a necessary consequence once you're working at Disney.
but by a new hope he was a withered old man without any humor or happiness left in him
That's not true at all. ANH Obi-Wan is more optimistic and witty than the one we see in the show, even though he really shouldn't be.
He honestly doesn't give a frick in ANH. He draws his laser sword in a bar.
he talks like he’s depressed and has no energy throughout the whole movie.
He approaches the confrontation with Vader on his own terms, and he mocks him throughout the fight. Like I said, he doesn't give a frick.
yeah he mocks him, but not like the clone wars obi-wan. He croaks out sentences like a depressed kurt colbain
He just got old.
because he's like 70 homie
i feel like that might be more because Alec Gunniess straight up didn't give a frick and thought all of his lines were moronic
He's as quippy as he was in the PT. You did not watch a new hope.
You didn't watch a new hope.
>Just look at The Clone Wars.
No. That gay cartoon shit is not real star wars
The force is female now, get over it you racist bigot chud.
White men need to be put in their place, they're nothing special. Only BIPOC matter, this is the future now. Diversity. Breathe. Touch grass. etc
>touched grass once
>got a tick
>got Lyme disease
>now confined to bed
Not sure if they could have made this encounter any worse or any more anti-climactic, what the frick is happening
I JUST CAN'T STOP CRINGING
My favorite moment is when he runs away at a slight jog.
That was really legendary, you got me there.
>Just look at The Clone Wars.
FiloniWars is NOT Star Wars. EU4LIFE.
I don't know much about the animated stuff but at least rebels did him right.
one of the many problems with Kenobi is the fact that Obi Wan doesn't even resemble Obi Wan as a character. Sure Ewan McGregor is playing him but it's a completely different person he's playing.
>Him have PTSD
that's a total bullshit take considering he passed the Jedi Trials, he's experienced loss before and nothing in history suggests he'd ever act the way he's acting.
it's obvious the writers and producers know frick all nothing about Star Wars but summary of the characters and the plot. fan fiction isn't this bad because at least they have some knowledge of the characters.
>"You're a poser!"
At least Auralnauts are keeping Larry Kenobi consistent.
>Obi-Wan was always the kind of hero who would be optimistic even though everything seems lost.
like teacher like pupil huh
Black person, Maul is just some villain that Obi-Wan knows frick all about. Anakin was HIS SON/BROTHER that he RAISED who TURNED AGAINST HIM. Anakin tried to kill Obi-Wan. He feels directly responsible for Anakin's fall. How would you feel if your son turned into a serial killer? Would you sleep well at night? For 10 years Obi-Wan thought HE. KILLED. ANAKIN. What you are witnessing in the show is Obi-Wan's hero's journey of becoming the Alec Guiness version of Obi-Wan. He must start believing that he isn't responsible for Anakin's sins and to abandon hope that Anakin is still in Vader. Then he will become:
>He is more machine now than man, twisted and evil
>He ceased to be Anakin Skywalker and became Darth Vader
Notice how he still said "Anakin" at the end of Episode 2? How he saw Anakin at the desert? Now that he met Vader, Obi-Wan will forever bury Anakin and his new hope will be Luke.
BTW, people do get PTSD from war and it might not even happen for years. During Clone Wars Obi-Wan didn't have any time to process anything and now he has all the time in the world.
im a different anon, i think they blew their load too quick, I wanted more stuff about obi wan being fricked up about his past before we got a vader fight, I wished the show would be 90% flashbacks to him thinking about how this all happened, shit with anakin starting to break bad and he didnt figure it out at the time. Old ben fighting stormtroopers and meeting sassy way too smart for a kid Lei is really stupid IMO. also i fricking hate imperial inquisitors, very stupid idea for the empire to keep force users on their payroll when the planned for decades to kill off all jedi
Yeah, I'm not saying there is no stupid shit in this show (REEEEva) or dumb sequences but I like what they did with Obi-Wan. The entire first episode was dedicated to showing us that it's not the same Obi-Wan that we knew from the prequels.
There MUST be some flashbacks we'll be getting in 4,5,6 because Hayden was barely used and Disney has been heavily promoting their brotherhood.
I really hope man, its been a while since we got any star wars thats even slightly palatable, I like the prequal actors and want them done right, but I dont trust >>>>d*sney to do it right,they fricked the series up so bad with the movies
Yeah, so strange how it feels like the events of Revenge of the Sith altered his character somehow. I also like it when characters never change at all, no matter what happens around them.
I was kind of hoping the show starts out with Kenobi being weak and in hiding, only to then rise to the occasion and frick up Reva and a dozen other inquisitors with one last claim to fame as a competent Jedi, stage his death and really frick off into obscurity so the Chosen One children don't get any more unwanted attention.
But frick that, leaks confirmed he's going to be a b***h for the rest of the series, which is more line with what Disney and nu-Star Wars seem to want
>I hate what this show is doing to Obi-Wan
>Just look at The Clone Wars
You mean the show that took his character and ran into the ground by flanderizing him into "le sassy quip daddy" because casuals and zoomers can't disconnect from memes and now the character can no longer either?
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO THIS SHITTY LIVE ACTION SHOW INVALIDATES THE SHITTY CARTOON SHOWWWW
Star Wars fans are mentally ill
>expecting him to be optimistic when his pupil nearly destroyed the Jedi
Luke ultimately goes against Yoda & Obi Wan, who on the face of it aren't being cute about "destroy Vader". What if Obi Wan talked it out? Got him to confess about the Padme situation? He'd have his own history with Satine to sympathize with.
"Why are we leading slave armies, Obi Wan?"
If Mustafar went differently, Anakin would at least have been strong enough to challenge Palpatine. Obi Wan would have his doubts about where it went wrong for them, and the Order - every Jedi would that wasn't cut down instantly. They're sitting on a goldmine of material and themes to draw from, but they just dig their heels in. The challenge here was to humanize Vader, demonstrate cracks in the dark side facade while he's the Emperor's prisoner, and illustrate Obi Wan and the Jedi's sense of loss, or betrayal.
I'm not entirely satisfied with things in this show, but punished Kenobi is one of the things I'm more or less fine with. He's been cut far deeper than ever before. He lost Anakin, the order, and practically everything he believed in. I think it's fine that he has a period in which he feels broken before managing to bounce back toward his more optimistic self years later.
What's important to me is that as hopeless as he feels, he hasn't completely given up. He's still acting out his duty in guarding Luke and you can tell he still wants to have hope even if it's been largely beaten out of him. It's far better than their portrayal of Luke as someone who completely and utterly gave up before going into hiding with no intent whatsoever to help anyone because of a contrived incident that was narrated to us in a five minutes flashback.
Yeah I don't love all the decisions but it makes sense that he'd be at a low point after pretty much overnight watching the order he dedicated his life to and sat on the council of crumbling overnight, clones he formed wartime friendships with turn on him in an instant, the Republic he fought to defend destroyed from within by a foe he had decades to stop if he simply knew, the Empire take its place and of course, the apprentice he raised like a younger brother becoming an instrument of the destruction of everything in his life.
Man's going to be at a bit of an all-time low, to say nothing of spending a decade dirt farming to ruminate on his failures.
>still caring about stah wahz
it was never that good.
i'm glad they're raping its corpse and will continue to do so before your manchild eyes, maybe eventually you'll grow up.
When maul killed his gf, he had a stable fun job and friends to support him. When empire took over, he's alone with a dead end job and a shitty house for 10 YEARS, drowning with guilt of "killing" the friends mentioned before. Even Owen hated him
>Just look at The Clone Wars. Maul killed the love of his life, and he still managed to get up and do what must be done.
It was kino.