The original show? Maybe it was playing off breaking lots of mecha tropes but it was still animated well. Story was nonsensical mostly. Shit that came later? Dunno never felt a need to watch it
"breaking" mecha tropes is always overstated when it comes to the show, i hate the notion that its somehow this subversive thing to the entire genre. where did it even come from? evangelion played almost all of it straight in a lot of regards and it was fricking great for that, anno loves that shit.
i don't mean to blow up on you specifically, its just one of those things that still baffles me
I havent heard the breaking the tropes but i did see it as a "deconstruction" of the mecha genre. It takes this story about humanity using giant mechs to destory aliens and turns it into a show about growing up and the stresses put on this kid and gives attention to the mental toll it puts on the mech pilots
It's your typical urban Japanese existential crisis bullshit you see in every other anime. >OH NO, MY LIFE CENTERED AROUND POST MODERN CONSOOMING IS MEANINGLESS?! AM I EVEN REAL?!
Its literally like watching a Japs mid-life crisis. It's only "deep" because japs are A LITTLE more introspective then your average merican.
What? Are you just purposely making up words and putting them in sentences to sound smart? Evangelion was created quite literally at a time where Japan was at its lowest and this is fact, anno knew this and capitalized on it immediately with Evangelion but realizing halfway through the actual potential of a profound message stemming not just in Japanese culture but actual human nature he decided to do a 180 on everything and follow his artistic gut creating what critics and mainstream pundits call the most profound anime ever to grace the silver screen. It's more than just some post modern schlock that Americans could only ever dream of reaching (Kaufman has touched this area once in his career with Synechdoche) but evangelion is more just some mecha fantasy it quite literally defined an era in a way that many others tried to follow but have failed
No, it's about Japanese culture. Normal people don't jerk off to comatose girls. Only Japanese could think about something like this. They are disgusting perverts like that.
The average mentally ill avengalion fan
Tranno was just told to make a generic mech anime because that's the cool trend. He was in a middle of a mental breakdown and made himself Shinji. The entire '''''''''''''story'''''''''''' is just Trannos ego. He compares being tasked to make an anime about shit no one cares about to saving the world and curses his management for putting so much faith on him. And then he added crosses and angels because it's so le deep. He made shit up as he went and had to be hassled by other workers to figure out basic things that he should have figured out.
Then because he doesn't give a shit he just put some trash together at the end for a ''deep'' meaningless ending, and that's Evangelion
Well it's not going to have the same impact (heh) if you watch it 25 years later and have experienced a bunch of other stuff before it. It's not a "you had to be there" thing to enjoy it, but it probably is to see it as something groundbreaking and unusual.
anything evangelion is literally pseud: the anime. the creator admitted he threw in a bunch of unrelated symbology to make it seem deep and moron weebs ate it up.
he only said that about the crucifixes, all the freudian shit has actual meaning and is the focal point of the show
Anno has he picked the name because it sounded complicated.
Anno has also given several thousand wordcount explanations about how the differences in meaning between "Neon Genesis Evangelion" and "Shinseiki Evangelion" are deliberate.
If you cherry pick Anno quotations you can just as easily make a case for ridiculous things like 'Evangelion was calling for the death of Aum Shinrikyo members'.
Anno has he picked the name because it sounded complicated.
Anno has also given several thousand wordcount explanations about how the differences in meaning between "Neon Genesis Evangelion" and "Shinseiki Evangelion" are deliberate.
If you cherry pick Anno quotations you can just as easily make a case for ridiculous things like 'Evangelion was calling for the death of Aum Shinrikyo members'.
>the creator admitted he threw in a bunch of unrelated symbology to make it seem deep and moron weebs ate it up.
I don't believe this. Human Instrumentality was extremely kabbalistic
I hate it when people use this as some kind of HURR IDEON DID IT FIRST, while ideon was certainly an inspiration for Anno to incorporate a more serious view of war is bad and everyone dies in his narrative, Ideon and Evangelion are completely sperate and mutually exclusive things. Only a pretentious halfwit would compare them.
>a more serious view of war
Dude what if we built a giant robot and only one guy can pilot it
and we don't tell him that he will need to pilot it or anything
and we don't train him to fight
we only put the little boy in the robot to fight when it's the end of the episode because the episode got boring with too much meaningless psued talking
and he always loses the fight because he isn't trained
and then after the fight we have some goofy tranime shit going on with a wacky woman slamming down beers instead of teaching the boy how to fight
and then the boy who is the only chance for survival for the human species (for some reason) gets bullied by other kids because ''haha lol loser idiot piloting the only chance for humanity to survive, lol frick you loser''
and then they shove him back into the mech to fight 1 angel
and then we do it again
and again
and then the only hope for humanity runs away and we just go ''oh well lol XD''
and then we get him back and shove him in the mech to lose again
and then the world ends because more and bigger angels came
This is serious stuff guys. Platoon who? It's evangelion for me
I wouldn't call it propaganda because I don't think there was any organization that pushed Anno to do it, but Evangelion has a strong conformist agenda by how it criticizes otaku culture, which by consequence supports the japanese workaholic and family/social honor culture.
>supports the japanese workaholic and family/social honor culture.
But all the people conforming turn into tang in the end and the kids being forced to conform all become mental cases
Never watched the film because the show was pseud shit. People think it's profound but like 70% of the show is capeshit battles? I thought it was just weebs overpraising it but then Wes Anderson says it's the best animated film. Wtf am I missing?
this show and movie is weird because people tried so hard to be intellectual and talk about it's deep meanings, and now there is this weird intellectual whiplash where people pretend the entire show is completely meaningless, and cry >NOOOOO YOU CAN(NOT) SOOBVERT!! IT'S A MEANINGLESS CARTOON!
because they want to pretend they are so intellectual that everything is beneath them. it's not valid to simply discuss any potential, themes, symbols, or meaning from the show because it's merely a stupid cartoon, as if pretending it's meaningless makes you seem smart
Anime is childish, that's the problem. I can't take teenagers seriously. Their problems, their everything it just silly.
And no, I'm not a normie. I'm depressed frick, but Shinji was still created by a pathetic manchild of a man.
Cinemaphile and /b/ were the first boards, Japan even has its own board with /jp/. Sorry you're having such a hard time coping with the fact that you post on a professional caricature enthusiast website made by a teenager almost 20 years ago
I don't know why you're disagreeing with that anon. You're saying the same thing.
Cinemaphile and /b/ was the first singular board. You're splitting hairs, yet saying what he just said. Where's the disagreement?
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hes saying its an anime board. im saying its a random/anime board. random, being fricking everyhing, which in itself, includes anime. ergo, yes, its an anime board. a section of it is. but its also, a random board, so if it being an anime board mean anime is okay, so is pictures of...anything.
its like saying a dictionary is anime, because its got the definition of anime in it.
I tried it, didn't get beyond first couple episodes.
Cool premise but the main guys a b***h and there's no sick c**ts around him to make up for it. Also super fricking pervy because Japs are the only people worse at being unnecessarily horny than whites.
No, it fricking sucked. Leaving a "monument" to any future aliens while wiping away all life on Earth is dumb. I say this as someone that has seen and read everything except the last Rebuild movie.
It was incredibly disappointing, after all these years hearing people make shit up. Macross, on the other hand, had a lot more to say despite the ridiculous premise.
The original show? Maybe it was playing off breaking lots of mecha tropes but it was still animated well. Story was nonsensical mostly. Shit that came later? Dunno never felt a need to watch it
First one was ok I guess, I liked the sniper scene. However, I turned the second one off 1/4 of the way through
"breaking" mecha tropes is always overstated when it comes to the show, i hate the notion that its somehow this subversive thing to the entire genre. where did it even come from? evangelion played almost all of it straight in a lot of regards and it was fricking great for that, anno loves that shit.
i don't mean to blow up on you specifically, its just one of those things that still baffles me
I havent heard the breaking the tropes but i did see it as a "deconstruction" of the mecha genre. It takes this story about humanity using giant mechs to destory aliens and turns it into a show about growing up and the stresses put on this kid and gives attention to the mental toll it puts on the mech pilots
It's your typical urban Japanese existential crisis bullshit you see in every other anime.
>OH NO, MY LIFE CENTERED AROUND POST MODERN CONSOOMING IS MEANINGLESS?! AM I EVEN REAL?!
Its literally like watching a Japs mid-life crisis. It's only "deep" because japs are A LITTLE more introspective then your average merican.
What? Are you just purposely making up words and putting them in sentences to sound smart? Evangelion was created quite literally at a time where Japan was at its lowest and this is fact, anno knew this and capitalized on it immediately with Evangelion but realizing halfway through the actual potential of a profound message stemming not just in Japanese culture but actual human nature he decided to do a 180 on everything and follow his artistic gut creating what critics and mainstream pundits call the most profound anime ever to grace the silver screen. It's more than just some post modern schlock that Americans could only ever dream of reaching (Kaufman has touched this area once in his career with Synechdoche) but evangelion is more just some mecha fantasy it quite literally defined an era in a way that many others tried to follow but have failed
No, it's about Japanese culture. Normal people don't jerk off to comatose girls. Only Japanese could think about something like this. They are disgusting perverts like that.
The average mentally ill avengalion fan
Tranno was just told to make a generic mech anime because that's the cool trend. He was in a middle of a mental breakdown and made himself Shinji. The entire '''''''''''''story'''''''''''' is just Trannos ego. He compares being tasked to make an anime about shit no one cares about to saving the world and curses his management for putting so much faith on him. And then he added crosses and angels because it's so le deep. He made shit up as he went and had to be hassled by other workers to figure out basic things that he should have figured out.
Then because he doesn't give a shit he just put some trash together at the end for a ''deep'' meaningless ending, and that's Evangelion
Well it's not going to have the same impact (heh) if you watch it 25 years later and have experienced a bunch of other stuff before it. It's not a "you had to be there" thing to enjoy it, but it probably is to see it as something groundbreaking and unusual.
>filtered
yes
anything evangelion is literally pseud: the anime. the creator admitted he threw in a bunch of unrelated symbology to make it seem deep and moron weebs ate it up.
>look, the creator literally says it’s all meaningless nonsense in front of elementary school kids on a national tv so it’s shit
Yes
almost as naive as unironic hardcore weebs
ok trannies
he only said that about the crucifixes, all the freudian shit has actual meaning and is the focal point of the show
Anno has he picked the name because it sounded complicated.
Anno has also given several thousand wordcount explanations about how the differences in meaning between "Neon Genesis Evangelion" and "Shinseiki Evangelion" are deliberate.
If you cherry pick Anno quotations you can just as easily make a case for ridiculous things like 'Evangelion was calling for the death of Aum Shinrikyo members'.
>the creator admitted he threw in a bunch of unrelated symbology to make it seem deep and moron weebs ate it up.
I don't believe this. Human Instrumentality was extremely kabbalistic
>Was I filtered or do I just have better taste than the average norman?
depends on the reason why you hated it
Teenagers do not have real problems
The story is trash
Anno should have resolved his depression through suicide
T. Hated 3.0
Watch ideon
I hate it when people use this as some kind of HURR IDEON DID IT FIRST, while ideon was certainly an inspiration for Anno to incorporate a more serious view of war is bad and everyone dies in his narrative, Ideon and Evangelion are completely sperate and mutually exclusive things. Only a pretentious halfwit would compare them.
>a more serious view of war
Dude what if we built a giant robot and only one guy can pilot it
and we don't tell him that he will need to pilot it or anything
and we don't train him to fight
we only put the little boy in the robot to fight when it's the end of the episode because the episode got boring with too much meaningless psued talking
and he always loses the fight because he isn't trained
and then after the fight we have some goofy tranime shit going on with a wacky woman slamming down beers instead of teaching the boy how to fight
and then the boy who is the only chance for survival for the human species (for some reason) gets bullied by other kids because ''haha lol loser idiot piloting the only chance for humanity to survive, lol frick you loser''
and then they shove him back into the mech to fight 1 angel
and then we do it again
and again
and then the only hope for humanity runs away and we just go ''oh well lol XD''
and then we get him back and shove him in the mech to lose again
and then the world ends because more and bigger angels came
This is serious stuff guys. Platoon who? It's evangelion for me
EoE is fricking great. Filtered.
the latter
I wouldn't call it propaganda because I don't think there was any organization that pushed Anno to do it, but Evangelion has a strong conformist agenda by how it criticizes otaku culture, which by consequence supports the japanese workaholic and family/social honor culture.
>supports the japanese workaholic and family/social honor culture.
But all the people conforming turn into tang in the end and the kids being forced to conform all become mental cases
4.0 > EoE
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have a nice day
That’s not my problem
I will literally eat you for dinner
You're a big guy
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have a nice day
planning on it. suicide pact. with my wife. your former son.
Dont have a nice day
Never watched the film because the show was pseud shit. People think it's profound but like 70% of the show is capeshit battles? I thought it was just weebs overpraising it but then Wes Anderson says it's the best animated film. Wtf am I missing?
You were completely filtered and it'll just happen again next time. Not to worry though more Star Wars and capeshit will be out soon
Ok troony
this show and movie is weird because people tried so hard to be intellectual and talk about it's deep meanings, and now there is this weird intellectual whiplash where people pretend the entire show is completely meaningless, and cry
>NOOOOO YOU CAN(NOT) SOOBVERT!! IT'S A MEANINGLESS CARTOON!
because they want to pretend they are so intellectual that everything is beneath them. it's not valid to simply discuss any potential, themes, symbols, or meaning from the show because it's merely a stupid cartoon, as if pretending it's meaningless makes you seem smart
The most ovverrated anime of all time. Go watch Genocyber.
The show is great EoE is great 1.0 is whatever 2.0 is great 3.0 is dogshit 4.0 is dogshit
100% correct
1.0 is literally just condensed first 8ish episodes of the show.
weebs have notoriously bad taste, no anime is really deep or complex.
Easy for autists to trick themselves into thinking a TV show is good when they attracted to one of the characters.
So you think Twin Peaks is bad too, I'm guessing? Attractive girls only enhance kino
Anime is childish, that's the problem. I can't take teenagers seriously. Their problems, their everything it just silly.
And no, I'm not a normie. I'm depressed frick, but Shinji was still created by a pathetic manchild of a man.
Somebody pasted lain onto a mecha. I don’t know of another show before lain that compares to it. (I’m pretty sure lain was made after evangelion)
someone got filtered
Filtered. EoE is pure kino
I love EoE so much it's unreal but I will admit the first time I saw it I didn't understand
childhood is sexualising asuka/rei/misato
adulthood is wanting to blow out shinjis backside
Do You Remember Real Mecha Anime?
Lisa Hayes was my first waifu
Watched it recently again after nearly 40 years. Was the coolest thing when I was nine, but now? Not that much.
>>>Cinemaphile dumbass.
Anime website :^)
wrong
Cinemaphile and /b/ were the first boards, Japan even has its own board with /jp/. Sorry you're having such a hard time coping with the fact that you post on a professional caricature enthusiast website made by a teenager almost 20 years ago
no, a and b WAS the first board. it was "anime/random". as in, if anime was "the first board", so was fricking /b/
I don't know why you're disagreeing with that anon. You're saying the same thing.
Cinemaphile and /b/ was the first singular board. You're splitting hairs, yet saying what he just said. Where's the disagreement?
hes saying its an anime board. im saying its a random/anime board. random, being fricking everyhing, which in itself, includes anime. ergo, yes, its an anime board. a section of it is. but its also, a random board, so if it being an anime board mean anime is okay, so is pictures of...anything.
its like saying a dictionary is anime, because its got the definition of anime in it.
weebs btfo
>cosplay not anime related
>pokemon not anime related
I tried it, didn't get beyond first couple episodes.
Cool premise but the main guys a b***h and there's no sick c**ts around him to make up for it. Also super fricking pervy because Japs are the only people worse at being unnecessarily horny than whites.
Dunno man. The french are horny c**ts.
The French are horny in a more mature way. Japanese are just creeps and perverts.
you have bad taste, really just that simple
No, it fricking sucked. Leaving a "monument" to any future aliens while wiping away all life on Earth is dumb. I say this as someone that has seen and read everything except the last Rebuild movie.
Sexhavers are unable to truly appreciate Eva
>Was I filtered
Yes. EoE is highly regarded as the most influential and one of the greatest animated movies of all time.
It was incredibly disappointing, after all these years hearing people make shit up. Macross, on the other hand, had a lot more to say despite the ridiculous premise.
>NOW IT'S TIME