I have never read superhero comics before but I recently watched The Spectacular Spiderman cartoon and loved it so, wanna get into a Spiderman series. Any recs of one that similar to the show?
I have never read superhero comics before but I recently watched The Spectacular Spiderman cartoon and loved it so, wanna get into a Spiderman series.
>Lee-Ditko run (and a bit of Romita)
>Raimi movies
>Ultimate (early Ult, not Miles)
There ya go, have fun
>another Spider-Man recs thread
>another anon recommending exclusively Ditko from the classic era and not Stern or JMD which are objectively the peak of the character on par with Miller's Daredevil
>hates Lee's run after Ditko for some moronic reason despite the fact that Romita has How Green Was My Goblin, Spider-Man No More, Death of Captain Stacy, and the drug story
>no he who is without sin
>no hobgoblin saga
>no Kraven's Last Hunt
>no commuter cometh
Listen, if you don't love Stern, Conway, Peter David or DeFalco, you don't like Spider-Man
I mean the correct response is to start a Lee/Ditko and continue on through the whole lot. Even stuff like Wolfman's run which is a low point still isn't actually bad per se
What if I don't want to read literally all the spiderman comics ever made? Also the classic stuff seems pretty dated.
Is there not just like a more modern run thats decent quality and starts from the beginning?
Too bad. Start from the start and read on through,
If you don't like Lee/Ditko and Lee/Romita, you don't like Spider-Man
>you don't really like this character if you don't read 1000+ comics written for children in the 1960s
>I'm too good for Spider-Man
>Give me some recs
Is there nothing more accessible you can offer?
Its not really the kids part that bothers me its the 1960s part
The Lee and Ditko run is like 40 issues. If you really hate it that much just read Spider-Man Chapter One which was made for people like you
It's a bit wordy but it holds up fine. It could not be more accessible
Start at issue #1 bro, how much more accessible can it be?
>watched a kids cartoon
>complains about reading kids books
You're an odd one Anon, and nobody expects you to read Slott lmao. Me, I stopped reading after Clone Saga and pick and choose the rest.
Slott did a lot of good things right up until he stopped doing good things.
New Ways To Die and most of BND up through to Gauntlet was good and Slott was responsible for a fair chunk of those stories.
>modern runs
JMS is considered a classic run with the exception of two widely maligned stories, with one of those maligned stories being the conclusion to the run.
Normies absolutely fricking love Brand New Day, Grim Hunt/Gauntlet, and the Dan Slott run but Cinemaphile absolutely hates all of these.
People like the Spencer run primarily for having Peter and MJ dating again, which is the last time you will see this in Earth 616 for the forseeable future.
Chip Zdarsky's Spectacular run is well-received.
The Zeb Wells run is one of the worst dumpster fire trash runs in Spider-Man history and has zero defenders on or off Cinemaphile.
Outside of that you have Spider-Man: Marvel Knights which is only 12 issues long, Spider-Man: Blue which is a graphic novel, and the out-of-main-continuity Ultimate Spider-Man (Bendis), Ultimate Spider-Man (Hickman), and Spider-Man: Life Story.
Cinemaphile will rage at this post for me bringing up all of these comics but this is literally all there is and you either like it or you don't
Marvel Knights is one of my favorite Spidey comics period. I FRICKING ADORE IT.
>JMS is considered a classic run with the exception of two widely maligned stories
Which is a shame because it's terrible from start to finish and the totem shit is the worst thing ever added to Spider-Man.
Spectacular mostly drew on Lee/Ditko and Lee/Romita comics with a good dose of Ultimate comics.
The series IS or was what the Ditko era would look like updated. If you want to see how those storylines would hash out you need to read through the beginning. Otherwise Ultimate was created for onboarding new fans who don't want to start from the beginning, but is also different to the classic comics and thus Spectacular too.
Honestly though, in terms of a satisfying read, ASM and accompanying titles up to the Clone Sage is probably the best overall version of the story. Not every comic is a banger but the best of it is the best Spider-man media out there. If you get bored you can always skim a few issues till something catches your eye and go back if you need to, and there will probably be something that grabs your attention.
As much as I love Stern, Conway, David, and JMD, Spectacular sadly didn't adapt much of their runs, if at all. They certainly weren't gonna do The Night Gwen Stacy Died or Kraven's Last Hunt, or even Nothing Can Stop the Juggernaut. Believe me, I'd love to see those stories adapted but it ain't lookin too bright
Greg Weisman just started writing a Spectacular Spider-Men series. The premise is different (basically Peter/Miles team-ups) and it's a bit more light-hearted so far, but it has the 616 versions of much of the show's cast (Kenny Kong, Sha-Shan, Prof. Warren, etc).
I feel like they were drawing on Stern's work with the Hobgoblin since they introduced Roderick Kingsley and you could argue they even got in his brother Daniel.
>Peter/Miles team-ups
so it's trash, good to know
You mentioning there's Black person spiderman in modern comics is what convinced me to read Lee/Ditko so thanks I guess?
Marvel Adventures Spider-Man is pretty great.
In some respects, yes; they even got Peter David to write some monster stories. Didn't like how they did Venom, though, even as a kid
yeah but it was only good until Chat was introduced which shipper that recommends it always fails to mention
>Marvel Adventures Spider-Man
is this the one where he gets a gf that can talk to animals?
Yup. Chat.
She was mai waifu
did she ever appear anywhere else?
I don't think she was, but I could be wrong.
shame
Even though it’s not great, the first TASM movie is decent and Andrew matches a lot with the spectacular version of Spider-man
sorry, man
you experienced the best spider-man thing ever
>doesn't have Christopher Barnes or Rino Romano in it
>the best Spider-Man thing ever
How can you speak such lies.
The 90s one
Are miggys comics good?
Okay so the skinny on Miguel's comics, anything by Peter David from the original Spider-Man 2099 run is good, if you see the words Orlando Bloom next to a 2099 comic stay the frick away. I can personally vouch for the quality of Spider-Man 2099, Doom 2099 and FF 2099 but everything else I've heard is extremely dubious at best.
Issues #1 - #44 of the first volume (plus Spider-Man 2099 meets Spider-Man): Good
#45 - #46: Not good
Timestorm: Really bad
PAD's 2014 volumes: Middling
Orlando's minis: Worse than timestorm
Current mini: so far so good (continues from #44 of the original run)
I thought this was pretty neat
You have to be specific because originally it was just kind of updated adaptations of old Spider-Man stories for kids, then just uninteresting original all-ages Spider-Man stories. Paul Tobin's run (#53-61 of the first volume, then all of volume 2) is the stuff you specifically want to read.
School Spider-Man is Spider-Man at his most boring and in ASM only lasted for about the first two years of the comic.
Anyway just read ASM up until some point in Michelinie's run either when McFarlane leaves or when Peter's parents come back. It's mostly good shit from the start up until then. Denny O'Neill has the weakest run during that time and it's mostly just because it's paint by numbers. Read Stern's ASM run since that sets the seeds for his Hobgoblin story when he takes over ASM. Gerry Conway's twin Spectacular and Web of Spider-Man runs in the late '80s are also good.
Have you watched this show yet anon? It's half as long as Spectacular but just as good too with a mature twist to it. It's maturity is never portrayed as juvenile like a stereotypical adult cartoon would which makes for the perfect balance of it in a Spiderman cartoon. I can even say it's season finale 2-parter really took me by surprise. It sucks how this adaptation is seemingly the only "mature" Spiderman we got and I don't think we'll see an attempt so masterfully crafted ever again.
Read everything until the 90s Clone Wars Saga, then stop. Watch the 60s cartoon, watch the 90s cartoon, and then stop(since you already saw Spectacular).
That's all you need to watch for Spider-Man.
The Clone Saga is kino thoughever
It's bloated, directionless, shit. It's the beginning of the end for Spider-Man. Lots of people will say that it's still good after, but it's all worse than what came before the 90s Clone Saga.
Counterpoint: The Symbiote stuff before it was dogshit and the Clone Saga was an improvement. It didn't really go downhill until the Byrne era
There's stuff well worth reading in the Clone Saga, basically everything up to maybe Maximum Clonage is fine. That's the point where it starts going completely off the rails with the whole "Ben is the real Peter" thing.
If he watches the 60s cartoon, he should also watch the 80s cartoon, as well as Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends, as those are similarly hilarious and utterly insane. They gave us Goron for cryin out loud.
That's true, and technically if you suffer through the 90s Clone Saga, you get a better ending to the Peter/MJ story, than what there was at the start of the 90s Clone Saga.
I don't know if there's a great place to stop, but I know that all the people that like JMS are nuts. That's the final nail in the Spider-Man mythos, before we entered complete nonsense. The only good part of the JMS run, was the Peter/MJ & Peter/May stuff. There's no real reason to read it though, since OMD ends it on a sour note, and the 90s Clone Saga actually ends the Peter/MJ stuff much better.
I wasn't really a fan of the direction the symbiote stuff went, and honestly the 90s cartoon did the best version of them.
Also that pre-Clone Saga Michelinie period is just fricking dire. The Michelinie/Larsen run is meh and then you get that Peter's parents/Lifetheft/The Spider period in the two or so years before the Clone Saga which is some of the worst shit ever published. About on par with Mackie/Byrne as the absolute worst the character ever got until Slott and the current Beyond/Wells shit.
What do the people loves the Spider-Man?
What?
I like how he punch da bad guy and make da jokes
He invented quips, and we all know how much normalgays love quips. Due to that I blame him for the current state of cape movies where nothing is allowed to be serious, everything has to be punctuated by out of place comedy.
I actually love MCU quips
Spiderman is both the originator of quips and the emo angsty young adult hero tho.
i did something really stupid
i thought i was getting spiderman for cheap
because it was used
turns out i was basically buying the equivalent of manga for spiderman
it's all in black and white!
It’s how I started reading them anon, it makes it so you can read it new twice!
So you have things like marvel adventures and season one that each do a combination of retread old stories and do their own things. Tangled web and webspinners tales are both anthologies where they let writers and artists do their own things with pete both in and out of canon. The thing is the biggest reason you’re getting people hounding you about “just read it all” is because pete is a character that worked best as the long form story telling tool he was. Checking out Superman Batman or Captain America just meant check out whatever, since their character developments between issues 1 or 40 or 100 or 400 never really matter, but to pete they really did. So come on anon, gear yourself up for a couple of months worth of reading, there are some damn fine stories therein
Genuinely watching Peter grow up and become a man is like one of those tricks that you don't see in comics, this constant development and building up of Peter Parker as a person.
It’s an interesting twist to see a comic character actively grow, sure he hit a point in his development that made editorial freak out, but getting there sure was fun
The whole "illusion of change" thing only came about in like the 1970s once the characters started being licensed out for stuff. It didn't really exist prior to that.
Well you do see it in these comics, which is why we’re telling you to read them
>Any recs of one that similar to the show?
The original Amazing Spiderman 1-40
90s cartoon
Why is Peter acting like a true dick and spews out spicy banter rare these days?
Males aren't allowed to have confidence or be wienery anymore. At best you're allowed to be the 7 foot tall muscle bound morally righteous cuck that gets pegged by his gf every night.
Really Amazing Spider-Man had an incredibly solid run the entire existence of the book until the 90's happened, shit like Lifetheft and the Clone Saga ruined a nearly spotless run.
The 90s sure didn't help but the biggest reason was Shooter being pushed out and the dumpster fire that was image happening. 90s Marvel is really the shits, not just spidey.
It never recovered neither.
Quite the more emotional comic line that I enjoyed reading and would recommend.
I always liked the deadly foes fun little read
Also it still breaks my heart the fact that this show got canceled. And one good cliff hanger too.
Fine guys you've convinced me I'll start with Lee/Ditko. At least I won't have to deal with gay shit like the black homosexual spiderman.
Spidey (2016) is really fun and very much in vein with this show. I bet you'll like it