i haven't seen conservatives scared of a marvel property this much since black panther
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i haven't seen conservatives scared of a marvel property this much since black panther
i haven't seen conservatives scared of a marvel property this much since black panther
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Don't you have enough threads in the catalog and archive on this topic anon? What's your real deal. Are you trying to hate market this? Collect yous? Go bother pol if you want the reactionaries.
>conservatives
huh?
When they say you become more conservative as you get older they don't mean you lose the liberal views you held as a moronic kid. They mean your liberal views are now outdated and oppressive by the standards of then next generation of moronic kids.
>You're a conservative if you don't like X-Men '97
Wow.
Read some of the other threads. It's just shitposting. Don't take it so literally.
sure, but I guess eating shit is a political stance
>Scared
Ok pedophile trying to look cool to the youth
How about enjoying actual humor instead of pretending that politics is humor
Reddit-ass idea of shitposting, you don't know the culture here at all
If you already hate a show that hasn't come out yet based on superficial culture war-adjacent shit, you most likely are conservative, anon.
Personally I think this will likely be a soulless cash grab but approximately zero percent of the online discourse approaches anything resembling a rational point.
>muh animation is bad
The original show had atrocious animation. Watch any episode. There can be no way this is animated worse than the OG, which started low and then cratered in season 5. The show's borderline unwatchable from a modern standpoint regarding how poorly animated it is.
>You're a conservative if you don't like X-Men '97
Wow.
>If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Magneto, then you ain’t mutie
>That animation
DOA, and I could tell the second I saw how they drew Rogue's eyes on the new toys. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv3Ss8o9gGQ
Non-Binary Morph makes me cautious. I'm sure there are still plenty of leftists and liberals who don't want LGBT messages shoved in their faces.
I agree, but it depends what they do with him (them? it?). A non-binary person existing is not political; the show having a whole plot about Morph's gender identity or specific prejudices would be. If it's just one of those like "Actually Loki is canonically a genderqueer pansexual" but it never really shows up on screen then who cares about trivia on a wiki page.
I blame Empire magazines article on X-Men 97 and eve more the twitter channel X-MenUpdates who quoted Empire Magazine. That channel pushed the whole Non-Binary aspect of Morph as prominently as they could and they got the attention they were seeking. Marvel/Disney did not advertise how Morph would be like directly.
Comic-book, animation and gaming journalism have been plagues on comic books, animation and gaming.
I know this board doesn't actually read comics, but I remember an interview with, I think it was Gillan or Ewing, who complained about this very thing. Paraphrasing, the "wikification" of fandom means a lot of people become fans without reading the stories or really understanding the medium (comics aren't HBO dramas, it's always been perfectly acceptable to just ignore a particularly bad mini or run, for example). And then you end up with a ton of people who know about some dumb trivia about a character and think it's more important than it is. And ironically, that makes it LESS possible to ignore or retcon it away! Because everyone keeps bringing it up. YouTube has made it even worse with the "X shocking facts" about characters that zero in on fun but obscure trivia.
I think the example was the Draco storyline, revealing Nightcrawler to be an actual demon, more or less. It was reviled and ignored almost immediately, but then this shit starts happening and suddenly everyone who knows anything about Nightcrawler knows about his demon dad. "How many people who complain about the Draco actually read the story, as opposed to the wiki summary"? And then they demand that it be addressed any time you use Nightcrawler.
Back in the day Magneto would have telepathy in a random issue in 1964 and a fan in 1999 would have just accepted it as a weird one off quirk that can be ignored because Stan was drunk that day and confused Charles and Eric. But today the online crowd would demand a DEEPLORE explanation tying in the Maximoffs, Franklin Richards, the Beyonders and the Living Tribunal (huge overlap with the powergay shonen crowd for some reason).
>DEEPLORE
I swear people care more about shit like this than fun stories and character interactions
This is how you know someone is a fake fan tbh. If they only care about the lore. I'm like that with 40k, I've always found the setting interesting but logistically it would be a nightmare to play (it's basically unknown where I live). So now and then I'll read wiki articles or watch a youtube video about something that's interesting, but that approach leads you to focus on the narrative and the metanarrative, on the structure of the setting and the key players, completely losing the vibe and atmosphere. I'm at least aware of it with myself regarding 40k, but most people who fall into that trap don't realize it.
I think psychologically it's something similar to why people get into conspiracy theories, people want to feel like they're privy to some secret knowledge. Which makes them feel superior, I guess. Nobody wants to read 1000 X-Men comics to figure out the deal with Xorn, but they want to know the deal with Xorn because they want to be able to participate in some convo that mentioned him, maybe impress someone.
Yeah they think it's more important to know "how things work" than to just enjoy shit. It's like saying you're a building construction fan when you only care about screws or something.
it's one thing that the X-Men Updates twitter reported that thing about Morph, but then they got a huge backlash over it and the channel,otself callls the commenters bigots and blocks anything negative about Morph. The worst things reporters / journalists do is tell people what to think and insult people who think differently. Their job should be plainly reporting the news and let the readers form their own opinions. Anything that a reporter does that takes a side is biased and is taken more as opinion than true reporting.
When JJ Jameson reports on Spider-Man as a criminal, that's bias, not true reporting.
>channel mentions something controversial
>some people respond with bigotry
>channel calls out bigots
>bigots get mad they are called out for their actions
Every time, like clockwork. "No one else should have the right to an opinion except me, I can tell you you're going to hell but you can't tell me that's rude of me. It's rude of you not to respect my right to disrespect you!" The mental gymnastics...
because people have a different opinion they're called bigots??? Liberals like to use that word a lot and don't realize they are bigots themselves because they lean heavy to their own opinions
You can't be bigoted if you're liberal
Why does that matter to you
>I’m not a bigot, you are for calling me a bigot!!!
If you’re angry and complain about a minority group simply for existing and being depicted in fiction that is bigotry. Not tolerating bigotry doesn’t make you a bigot yourself.
bigotry is extreme belief in one side of an opinion over another sides opinion.
I'm a conservative and if you don't like me for belonging to the conservative group then that make you a bigot also.
I don’t care if you are a conservative. You act stupid, you get mocked for being stupid.
You're a homosexual and you are just plain stupid without acting.
you can choose to be a conservative minorities cant choose to be minorities
simple as
cuckservative
>tell people what to think and insult people who think differently
What's up anon, think only Cinemaphileers should be allowed to act that way?
we're not reporters you homosexual, Frick You!
>Their job should be plainly reporting the news and let the readers form their own opinions.
Except some things aren’t just a matter of opinion. Some things are just facts. You cannot for example report “X says Unicorns aren’t real while Y says they are real” and then leave it at that. That is bad reporting. It is not biased to report in the story for context that Unicorns are a mythical creature who do not exist in real world.
In case like this, where people’s feelings are just hurt because a shapeshifter doesn’t identify as one specific gender ie male, being angry about it is factually ridiculous. By biological essentialism the second the shapeshifter turns into a woman they would have to be a woman, yes? If the shapeshifter defaults to a non-binary non-male/non-female appearance then what are they if not non-binary? The other alternative is to call them gender fluid but in this instance Morph identifies as non-binary. So where is the problem?
Calling someone a bigot when you complain about “LGBTQ propaganda” in this context is appropriate. It is factual because you are just upset about someone identifying as non-binary and when it’s literally a shapeshifter it makes the entire outrage all the more ridiculous. It is not responsible to go just go “welp, who can say which side here is correct, it’s up to you”.
so Morph just has a butthole to pee and poop from?
>deeplore
if i nerd the frick out and care about it, it's because i see it as an opportunity for new storytelling and exposition. the problem comes when writers don't give a shit and it's specific to only one character. it's a focus for some people because it's lost potential as writing gets worse and worse
>I'm sure there are still plenty of leftists and liberals who don't want LGBT messages shoved in their faces.
Only bigots would think having a LGBTQ character in the cast is automatically SHOVING IN MY FACE. If this was the 60s you would be saying the same thing about a black character being in the roster.
>man and woman macking and/or fricking on screen
>no reaction
>any single character not being a straight white man or woman
>"STOP SHOVING PROPAGANDA IN OUR FACES!"
/misc/ has become the very thing it spent years mocking
Did I say LGBT Character???? Because I didn't, I said LGBT messages!
Oh so you’re actually whining just about the show having a message of acceptance and tolerance when it comes to being different? Lmaaooooooooooo
Why should I tolerate people who are different?
Conservatives getting mad the X-Men are about inclusion and tolerance will never not be funny to me. Regardless of personal politics or media views, the franchise has been that since at the very least the early 80s, and in some ways since the beginning.
No one is mad. It's journalists trying to gaslight people into being mad.
>Nobody is mad bro!
So all the endless b***hing on this very board is, what, deep state psyop about conservatives whining about things they always whine about while the rest just mock them for being idiots?
"I am not mad!!", screeched the conservative, howling in fury at the cartoon characters. "NO ONE IS MAD, THE MEDIA IS LYING!!!!1", he bellowed, burning his Nikes and Mr. Potato heads.
>deep state psyop
How is this your first conclusion and not that people are just fake outrage posting for (You)s?
Morph was a male shapeshifter in the 90's and now that it's 2024 the writers think it's unacceptable to keep him a male. The whole non-binary issue is confusing as hell in the real world, and I don't need a fictional cartoon preaching a message to me.
>I don't need a fictional cartoon preaching a message to me.
Then with all due respect, maybe you're too old for cartoons.
>The whole non-binary issue is confusing as hell in the real world, and I don't need a fictional cartoon preaching a message to me
Perhaps you could take this opportunity to possibly learn something about it then through this easily digestible cartoon medium.
What’s to learn? Its homosexualry with extra steps.
In the real world: There are two genders. This person doesn't feel like they fit in with either. That's it. Nothing confusing about it, really, this is one of the simpler SJW concepts.
In the show: This person is a shapeshifter, who constantly takes on other forms. We have seen Morph do so in the pilot, for fun, all alone. Morph seems to almost instinctively mimic (heh) appearances, regardless of gender.
Is it truly impossible to imagine that a person who has a completely fluid physical form and can alter their genitals on a whim might have a different view of their own gender? This is a very rare case where the SJWing actually kind of makes more sense. Any shapeshifter would have serious body image issues, tbh.
I don't like that they're changing it from the OG show, which very much did not do that (though Morph was fricked up as is for different reasons, thanks, Sentinels and Sinister). But a shapeshifter going by they is just like... logic, anon. This is a fantasy world, different rules even if you disagree with IRL people like that.
>In the real world: There are two genders.
You could have ended your post here. There's nothing more to discuss.
Given that this is a pretty important topic, tons of people on both sides would disagree with you. If you look into basically any topic dealing with people in sufficient depth, you'll be shocked to find out that basically nothing on this planet is simple. We're complicated creatures who like to make our lives even more complicated.
The only people who disagree with “there’s two genders” are mentally ill.
>i can accept magic, aliens, monsters, immortals, mutants - deviations from science and religion alike
>i cannot accept people having a different opinion about themselves than i do
how are you okay with morph being a shapeshifting mutant but morph going by they is too unrealistic? one of those exists and happens in reality and it's not the shapeshifting
>having a different opinion about themselves
Anon you're talking about something that's as hard coded as having to breathe air to live.
Holy shit you're too far gone. Gender is not an opinion, you're born as one of two options.
gender is not sex.
intersex people exist.
brain scans show that trans people are different, and if you actually met any trans people and you have any kind of knowledge of human behavior you'd notice they're different even before they come out as trans.
trans people live in cuckservatives' heads rent free as the planet becomes more and more polluted and capitalism keeps destroying the economy for the working class. there could be an alien invasion and conservatives would still be triggered by cartoon characters
Ywnbaw
>everyone i disagree with is a troony!
rent free
https://apnews.com/article/mice-sperm-eggs-embryos-male-cded47c4333a7176ef5c47d6b5ad7e63
No it's just that you happen to be one
Intersex people are deformed freaks. Trans people are mentally ill freaks. No one is saying freaks don’t exist.
why make the gender issue more complicated thru fiction and on top of that put a message behind that issue ? it just creates more confusion
and it's really bad writing. It's kind of like how Star Wars tried to explain the force with midichloriam bullshit, or when they made the light side of the force female, and the dark side male. So males are evil in Star Wars?? it;s bullshit! What's X-Men going to do??? Make straight believing humans the bad guys and all mutants and gays the good guys???
Name a single society where women commit the majority of crime compared to men.
Themyscira.
Explain non-binaries who still goes by she as well. What's the point of non binary then?
I'm still trying to figure them out, but you can't, they're really just mentally ill but you are not allowed to call them mentally ill.
Nah they're normal but they want attention for mental illness
What’s the point of having names when people go by nicknames that aren’t their legal names? What’s the point of having names if either sex can have it?
Minority Points in the Oppression Olympics
I think if this is gonna take place in the 90s, if they address it at all in the show they should probably use more decade appropriate terminology like genderqueer.
Although that said, just saying Morph's nonbinary doesn't mean that the writers are ever going to actually address it.
We just called them gays back then, anon.
Don't be obtuse, you know I meant what words people in those communities used.
gays don’t have communities.
I'm sure you'd prefer it that way.
Fundamentally disordered pedos are incapable of forming true communities. All they know how to do is rape kids and ruin IPs.
Yeah, if there's one thing pedophiles are bad at, it's definitely networking with each other to share materials.
You don’t know what community is.
My problem is that they take queers and present them as normal. Queers aren't normal, by definition.
Both are true.
Non-binary is made up bullshit for morons who want feel special but won't commit. It's not an actual sexuality.
t. homosexual
Correct, it’s a gender identity, not a sexuality. At least you got something right.
Liberals have literally gone back in time the best way they know how in order to poison the things we love. If that's not an attack in the middle of a culture war then I don't know what is.
The show is gonna suck ass but if they are throwing such a shit fit over it already I'm excited to see what happens when they come to the MCU. I want it to be utter moronic chaos over dumb capeshit.
Conservatives don't even know this exists.
Pretty much all fans of capeshit media from the 90s are conservatives, it's funny when you think about it because pretty much all creatives in general and not just in capeshit have always been liberal
>Pretty much all fans of capeshit media from the 90s are conservatives
Holy projection, Batman!
Don't care, leftard, you're not making me hate the X-Men.
They're not for you. Not everything has to appeal to everyone.
if your anti left you clearly never loved the x-men like i have
>fan of x-men thinks it isn't leftist
just wait til he finds out about star wars and star trek
If morph is non-binary, yet he's a mutant human, that means he still has the biology of a human and has to eat and drink and if he eats and drinks then he has to have organs that
expels hard food waste and liquid waste. does he just have one hole to expel both urine and feces? ???
Morph is starting to sound Satanic the more you think of his Non-Binary status. He could be a very dangerous villain.
It's sad that homosexuals have to pretend that someone is "mad" at their existence or entertainment for it to valid. No one's mad morph is non binary. They're mad that's there's homosexuals involved with the show who will treat that like a political thing instead of just a sci-fi element that stems from his mutation. If you didn't have losers running around legitimately preaching the possibilities of being non binary this wouldn't be an issue.
You know the head writer/producer is a black gay guy with an onlyfans right ?
That says a lot
He deleted it, sucks cuz he is hot
and when he was accosted by twitter about idpol voice acting, he left twitter rather than cave in to their stupid and shitty demands
It's more like he's arrogantly doubling down on the bad decisions this show is making. Another reboot made by people who hate the material and fans. Oh well
when will you guys learn that this place isnt to be taken seriously? youre fricking moronic trying to argue with some permanently online homosexual that lives for (you)s and giggles to himself when someone gets mad at him. embrace the shitpost or leave this site
Disney has officially killed Cheesecake in all its IP, Leia Slave has been banned, Jessica Rabbit is now wearing a detective jacket, the women of the MCU have to be covered at all times, Captain Marvel was created only because Feige hates Ms Marvel and her swimsuit and last week, the Enchantress was back wearing what? A conservative costume in the style of the MCU. They've done the same in the latest games and now in the cartoons, In the cringe MSHEU What If and the new non binary X-Men 97, Disney hates consumers.
It sets unattainable beauty standards for American women.
>i haven't seen conservatives scared of a marvel property this much since black panther
Because this has been a bad week for Marvel comic book fans, first the terrible casting of the Fantastic Four with old and ugly actors and now the pathetic X-Men 97 LGBT, which not only changed Morph's sexual orientation, but also put a burqa on Goblin Queen and removed Psylocke from the team
I'm kinda surprised by how hanky the animation looks.
Genuinely looks like some seasonal isekai/fantasy anime made by a no-name studio.
Studio Mir is doing the animation, so that's probably why. They want the wannabe anime look.
>can switch between male female or whatever else at will
>No he must be a heckin straight white man
What's wrong with him having a base human form?
He does have one, the non-binary one.
No they said human. Humans are either male or female.
That'd be fine, if a bunch of weirdos in real life didn't act like that's a legitimate way for a person to identify themselves.
Magneto was right.
was he right or left?