>be me
>In target
>Revenge of the sith on a TV
>teenage Zoomers walk by
>one say says: "bro I love classic star wars"
>other: "episdoe 3 is the fricking goat"
>1st one: "best movie ever"
Millennial/Gen-X bros, WE LOST. The prequals are what zoomer think of when they think of star wars.
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Gen-X gays only. Millennials own the prequels lovingly.
And ROTS is at least second best after ESB.
TLJ is the best Star Wars anyway.
“TL-“
Lol, lmao even.
As much as people try shitting on the prequels, they will still have nothing on the sequels completely destroying the original trilogy's arc.
ironically you think the sequels "destroyed the arc of the OT" because you're applying prequel retcons about Darth Vader being a messianic chosen one to the OT
the ending of RotJ was never supposed to be a final victory of Space Jesus over the forces of evil forever, hell in the original ending of RotJ it's not even made clear that the Empire had fallen. George was clearly leaving the door open in case he decided t o ever make sequels.
Luke's arc was actually pretty smart on a conceptual level. But it hinges on the stupid moment with him and Ben Solo with the nightmare. Had they had a more convincing/in character misunderstanding the arc would've been kino.
>Luke wins. Prophecy fulfilled. Force in balance, Empire defeated.
>Luke and Co try to rebuild
>Luke trains new Jedi, Leia and Han build the Republic.
>Ben Solo is experiencing the force, acting out, has a darker side
>Becomes too much for his parents to handle
>They send him to Luke to train him how to control himself
>Luke fails to stop him from being corrupted and may have even been indirectly responsible
>Suddenly the bad side, who should be feeble and nothing at this point, have an all-star player for their comeback
>Luke's Jedi are slaughtered, The Empire is reborn in the form of the First Order.
>Luke decides that the Jedi's failure has now caused two evils to rise. That maybe the Jedi and their arrogance cause more harm than good.
>Luke is eventually convinced otherwise by a younger Jedi who resembles him in his heyday.
>Luke faces down the first order solo, even as a projection, and humiliates them and Kylo Ren.
>A new legendary moment that will be retold across the galaxy
>Becomes one with the force
There's an extra problem in that Kylo/Ben never get established as their own characters. None of the new characters do. Ben/Kylo is stuck in vague-backstory mode and in being a lame-duck imitation of Darth Vader.
There's yet another problem: people like Luke and want to see him succeed, and anyone over the age of 10 already did with the EU. Yes yes, Trioculus, Han fricking weasel people, 90's edgelord bondage aliens; the EU had plenty of shit in it, but it also had Luke overcoming challenges to successfully found a NJO based on new thinking and new principles that sought to avoid the pitfalls of the old order, Leia becoming a powerful and effective stateswoman, a mother, and coming to terms with her own force sensitivity and heritage, and Han continuing his growth as a person to become a respected military leader and a caring father.
That's it, that's what people who aren't homosexualy dangerhaired pronouners wanted after they finished watching the OT, the natural continuation of the arcs and stories the characters experienced on screen. Deadbeat Midlife Crisis Han, Ineffectual b***hy Leia, and Broken Old Man Luke(note; Reclusive Hermit Luke is not the same thing, so if any disingenuous TLJgays are about to retort with abloobloo Goergy Porgey's sequels tho, feel free to do the world a favour and just skip to the part where you blow your brains out in a shitty run down motel) are not interesting unless you didn't actually like Star Wars.
>bait
>Gen-X gays only. Millennials own the prequels lovingly.
DURR WHAT ARE THE PLINKETTT REVIEWS?
Gen Xers, moron.
>Gen Xers, moron.
They're 45yo dumbass, that makes the millennials.
The cutoff is 1981. They're Gen X.
>literally two years away from being millennials
They're basically millennials
>Literally not millennials
>Literally Gen X
>"B-b-b--but basically millennials!"
A 45 year old has more in common with a 43 year old than they do with a 57 year old Gen Xer.
>Is thoroughly proven wrong
>"NONO BUT STILL!"
Wrong again b***h.
Generations aren't defined by their literal last years anon
>Generations aren't defined by the years that make up their generation
Yes, generations are defined by their heyday, not when the generation is just about over.
>Generations are defined by things that happen in their generation. Not things that happen in their generation.
Oh god are you one of those morons who thinks Friends is a Gen X show?
I'm one of those people who thinks Friends was a terrible show and don't care who enjoyed it
The cut off for gen x should be like 1978. If you didn't have internet in middle or high school you're gen x.
Generations are arbitrary. I don't see what someone born in the late 70s has in common with someone born in the mid-60s yet they're both called "Gen X".
>DURR WHAT ARE THE PLINKETTT REVIEWS?
The start to the contrariancore Cinemaphile scene. So basically everything wrong with this website.
>contrariancore Cinemaphile scene
Motherfrickers defend these movies (picrel) but call unironically will say Alien is trash.
Add Ladyballers and Sound of Freedom. Some of those films are GOAT fr fr.
Replace Batman Begins with The Batman and this list is spotless.
>The Batman
HOLY shit, the frickers on Cinemaphile tried to gas light everyone into thinking it was a masterpiece.
>Millenials love that shit
We most certainly do not. Frick right back off with your prequels you moon-worshipping hut-dwelling mongoloid.
The original trilogy is where Star Wars begins and ends. Like with Pokemon, anything that came out after I was 12 doesn't count. Unironically.
Search your feelings, anon. You know it to be true.
The OT is garbage
>And ROTS is at least second best after ESB.
I'll grant you that.
The truth is that the OT is carried hard by gen x nostalgia in terms of reputation, and that George Lucas was never very good in terms of directing. Most criticisms against the prequels are also true of ANH and ROTJ, Lucas was just allowed to indulge in more of his excesses. Also, because of the negative hype a lot of criticism that's blatantly moronic was never questioned. The plot arcs of the prequels and especially Anakin are underrated, and ROTS is quite good.
based
ESB was not directed by George and greatly outclasses every movie that came later.
RotS is 100x better than Return of the Jedi.
For a trisomy 21 patient yes.
Every other sane person sees an oscarworthy drama in Palpatines throne room versus the cringiest scene of all Star Wars: Darth Vaders "Nooooo"
eriously, even comparing both is like Laurence of Arabia versus random TV Scifi channel movie
I was mixed on TPM and AOTC but I loved ROTS when it came out and still do. It's tied with ANH for my favorite film in the series.
its is OVER
All of the prequels are shit and always will be.
prequels are fine
there are only 6 starwars films
i'll fight you
I only saw ep7 and that was enough for me to skip everything disney did, except mandalorian s1-2 because lucas was slightly involved
>mandalorian s1-2 because lucas was slightly involved
wait what?
he visited the set while they were making it and hugged the baby yoda
that's already more involvement than on the sequel films
also filoni is more in line with lucas's vision, but recent projects have shown that he is not a lucas replacement, he's done some stinkers
>he is not a lucas replacement, he's done some stinkers
that's exactly why he is a Lucas replacement lmao
he still hasn't made anything as good as peak lucas, but he's still better than the average disney hires
I think some episodes of TCW were among the best things in the franchise, and I've been enjoying how consistent The Bad Batch is, though I'm not sure how much he was actually involved in those and the Ahsoka show has huge problems.
>TCW
lucas was involved in that
I still haven't seen any of it cause the style put me off
The movie and first few seasons look rough but it gets better.
I will tough it out cause people keep saying they're good
I hope underworld gets revived using the scripts they wrote for it before disney
I'll advice you that the first season is bad. Like Phantom Menace tier bad. You might wanna find a watch guide at least for the beginning, there isn't much worth in the first season anyway. Also, I recommend watching episodes in chronological order, though it is quite a mess early on too.
I'll be watching it on 2-3x speed, so it'll be a blur
anything lucas is involved in, I will give a chance
>there are only 6 starwars films
3.
SW is the OT
2D Clone Wars > ROTS >>> others prequel movies and show
as a millennial who grew up watching the prequels, I always preferred them over the OT because they had cooler lightsaber fights & more of them
It's not the children's fault that the prequels, which came out 20+ years later after the original films, were named Episodes 1, 2, and 3. It's George Lucas's fault. He's the dumbass who named the original 3 Star Wars films as episodes 4, 5, and 6.
Only Gen X gays and boomers hate the Prequels. Millenials love that shit. Even the first one. Natalie Portman was my first celeb crush as a young lad.
Prequels or Originals is the perfect question to figure out who you are talking to. Someone who cares for writing, characters and themes will prefer OT and those who don't care about writing quality at all will prefer the spectacle of prequels. Your average audience member will prefer prequels because of the fast movements and shiny lights and people who care about actual stories will prefer substance of the originals
There's seriously nothing wrong with the writing of the prequels aside from some stilted dialogue. The prequels' real flaws lie with how bland the direction is, which is entirely on George.
peabrained take
>prefer prequels because of the fast movements and shiny lights
But the last two decades has had people complain about how boring and dry the prequels were because of muh politics, so which is it?
Both are trash, they were the capeshit of their time.
I agree. I watched ROTS last friday, probably the first time since it released. Boy oh boy is the writing fricking TERRIBLE. I still enjoy the Ani Vs Obi Wan duel though.
you literally made this thread the other day so now i fundamentally don’t believe this actually happened
GenX somewhat begrudgingly accept RotS. It was fine. Not as good as ANH/TESB but better than those fricking ewoks. Which puts it on the original trilogy's tier.
WHY does Gne-x hate the prequals so much?
Partially because of the prequels faults, partially because of how much Gen X overrates the OT
It came out 25 years ago, it's classic
>"25 years ago"
frick off r
>it's true
wtf
>It came out 25 years ago
Critics rated Obi-wan show, and Book of Boba fett above chinatown, no country for old men, blade runner. This is the future we live in. Were Book of Boba Fett is considered a masterpiece, this is reality.
That just aggregates positive reviews though.
90% of people might give Obi-Wan a 6/10 and Blade Runner might be a wider gulf of 10/10 vs 3/10 or some shit. The percentage isn't a grade.
That image is stupid. A lot of that older stuff only has limited amounts of reviews
In the past critics were more harsh. Now every slop gets 4 or 5 out of 5.
I put Harmy's ESB on the other day, mostly for background noise. By the end, I was engrossed.
I hadn't realized how long it had been since I watched that movie.
I'm a zillenial. I disliked TPM and AOTC because of the RLM reviews but I always loved ROTS and thought their review of it kinda sucked. I now think TPM and AOTC are fine despite their flaws. They're not great but I enjoy them.
>clone wars
>worse than rebels
>REBELS IS GOOOD
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anon only put the movie below Rebels, not the series
Solo in the same tier as Kenobi and Boba Fett? Sure it was also an unnecessary prequel of a named character, but at least it was a functional narrative, didn't turn the MC into a completely worthless homosexual, and didn't look like it was filmed by a bunch of students using iphones.
You think that’s bad OP, just wait until filing makes his trilogy, nice that happens you’ll have people here saying that the TLJ and TROS are peak Star Wars and anyone who disagrees is a Filoni
It's a horribly structured and badly written movie but it has lots of lightsabers and shows what was already decided was going to happen years in advance.
RotS is peak millennial core you larping 1996 c**t bag. I saw it 3 times in the theater.
I'm a millennial and the prequels shit all over the OT.
The OT is like a napskin sketch of what would be. But it's kinda shit in and of itself.
Rots was the 8th-9th piece of Star Wars television/film media. I can't be bothered to count how many movies and tv shows there are now. It's classic now.
i don't consider myself a big fan of star wars (watched the movies, played a few games) but when anakin says "i hate youuuuu!" to hobbitone, it is just one of the best line delivery ever.
ep3 is unironically ot level kino. I'd even go as far as to say that it's better than ep6
"ep6" WTF is that Zoomer speak? You mean "Return of the Jedi"? That "episode" shit is a litmus test to find all the zoomies.
They've been called episodes since The Empire Strikes Back.
What is classic Star Wars if not Star Wars before the dark times, before Disney?
Classic Star Wars is the movies and spin offs from before the special editions. Middle Star Wars is from 1995 up to the release of RotS. Modern Star Wars starts when Rebels started airing in 2014. TCW is in a weird limbo state between the two eras.
The prequels are Millennial Star Wars zoomer Star Wars is Disney Star Wars.
>he prequels are Millennial Star Wars zoomer Star Wars is Disney Star Wars.
Then why are millennials literally crying over ashoka?
>Then why are millennials literally crying over ashoka?
Those onions filled Youtubers are shills.
Ahsoka follows plot threads started in the Prequel era.
Zoomers and late millennials don't watch Star Wars. Marvel movies are their version of Star Wars.
I am a late millennial i grew up with the prequels and expanded universe.
You know, it just dawned on me.. I cant help but think that somehow episodes 1-6 were, or could have actually been about Obiwan. He is in every film, although Ghost mode in 2 of them. But when you look at it, Obiwan was behind it all. Would have been interesting to have seen things from his perspective.
>Time moves forward in a linear fashion
Can't imagine giving a frick about this.
They like it because of cartoons, video games, whatever. The additional material elevated the prequels because the movies themselves are really bad and nothing will change that.
I'm a millennial, 34, and I think RoTS was legitimately good. I have a soft spot for Phantom. But if there was ever a really good movie of the prequels it was Revenge of the Sith.
I was somewhat hopeful for nu wars in the first one, but then Last Jedi came out and I never even saw the third movie because seriously frick this gay earth and disney and everything star wars now.
SW 3 was kino when I watched it as a kid.
Like Teletubbies, I guess
>Star revenge of the sith wars
ANH and TESB are the only two good Star Wars movies, every other one is mediocre to total utter shit (hello there, RoS). Revenge of the Sith is still my favorite, though..
Not classic Star Wars
Iconic Star Wars
>scenes women can never understand
>ESB
>ROTS
>ANH
>ROTJ
>TPM
>AOTC
undisputable ranking. ROTS is kino, and i'm not sure why you're so caught up on a zoomer calling it 'classic', obviously it's not an original but it came out almost 20 years ago at this point, in the mind of a zoomer that's ancient history. be grateful they still enjoy true cinema and not some netflix slop
The most hard core Gen X Star Wars fans knew what was going to happen in RotS. They knew Anakin was going to get F'd Up by Obi-Wan. The Gen Y and Zoomers were just following along one movie after another, most of the, just didn't know how exactly Anakin became Darth Vader.
>The most hard core Gen X Star Wars fans knew what was going to happen in RotS
everyone knew what was going to happen, you didn't have to be a 'hardcore fan' to know Anakin would become Vader at the end. it was teased even in TPM marketing, and before the movie came out there were toys that transformed Anakin to Vader in every store.
boomers who watched the OT knew, and every zoomer knew from the marketing even if they hadn't seen the OT
The beginning and first act of RotS is peak Star Wars and the final act is decent, but the middle act drags as hell with all the usual prequel bullshit. I only really noticed it on the second watch. I guess people enjoy it more because it starts and ends strong, leaving a good impression.
Then they don't think.
ROTS is terrible and the fact Lucas didn't know what to emphasize with Anakin is extremely obvious even if you don't know the movie's production history.
Prequelshit will nevr stop being bad
>Loved the prequels as a kid, but never watched the originals for a long time.
>Stuck in grandma's house and saw she had the dvd set
>A friend of mine likes these, I should watch them.
>Instantly loved original trilogy more.
>Try to go back to Prequels and fricking couldn't.
>Even ROTS kinda blows now
Some of my dumber friends can still watch them, but they do that with everything they saw as a kid. I wish I could dot that, but I just can't love them like I used to
Rare W for the zoomies.
The prequels only got made because Lucas got the rights back on Star Wars toys