I honestly don't get the hate for this movie
>Plenty of cool action sequences
>Great world building
>Boba fett lore
>Yoda fighting with his light saber for the first time
>The scene where the clones arrive on geonosis is kino
>The romance between anakin and padme is supposed to awkward because anakin has never flirted before, let alone with a princess.
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It’s better with the deleted scenes where Anakin and Padme visit Naboo. It fleshes out their romance.
it's also much better with this unreleased scene where anakin and obi-wan find out padme moonlights as a stripper in a coruscant club
The prequels are shit and always will be. Redlettermedia was right about everything.
>You need some reviewer to tell you this movie is bad so you can justify yourself
Imagine being this miserable
The sequels are terrible as well. TFA could be considered mediocre at best, but overall the whole trilogy is trash on par with the prequels.
Reminder all nu wars is homosexual shit
Reminder
This. Prequels were worse than the Rey trilogy.
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0 original thoughts versus original thoughts.
I don’t understand why autistic people find this comparison so appealing. If you had the part of your brain that can perceive social cues and intentions you can generally intuit creative vision versus creative bankruptcy even if one contains several similar elements to the other
Autists like the prequels
baiting used to have a minimum standard of quality
baste
Yoda lightsaber duel was cringe and one of the earliest examples of capeshit style filmmaking.
>Yoda lightsaber fight
For some reason I thought it was the most kino thing when I was 16. RLM legitimately destroyed that one.
>earliest examples of capeshit style filmmaking.
Fricking moron.
there's only a couple of decades between the prequels and the originals, but in that short time frame Yoda went from Olympic level gymnast to a sock puppet.
99% of the time yoda was hobbling around with his walking stick in the prequels as well.
which makes the Dooku fight even more distracting.
Obviously he was using the force to enhance his physical abilities. You can see how tired he is after the fight.
Can't believe this even has to be explained to people. Literal children understand this stuff.
Autists have defective brains. They can never understand.
Why doesn't he use a minimal amount of force to allow himself to walk normally? He only walks infrequently when he's not on the council, so it wouldn't be too draining.
Why would he need to and why didn't he just fight Dooku the same way he did Palpatine by tearing the entire room apart? Dooku cannot be more powerful than Palpatine.
watch the RLM reviews
No, I won't. I'll watch the movie instead.
I won't defend I hate sand, or Yoda fighting like a cat chasing a laser pointer. Clones is the most interesting of the prequels because a few different decisions would have changed the story completely
>what if someone had fallen for the generic "join me" trick every sith does
Stunning observation, that indeed would've changed everything.
Or Obi Wan could have told the council that the government is secretly controlled by a Sith lord, like Dooku said plain as day
A
SITH
LAWED?
He did tell them. You fricking idiot.
It's genuinely hilarious how at least 90% of the criticisms for these movies comes from simple misunderstandings due to people's inability to pay attention or keep up with a film made for children.
They're fricking idiots
Okay and what happened next? The council immediately shrugged and forgot about it
>forgot
They didn't want to believe it
Skip to 50 seconds in.
>I won't defend I hate sand
I will.
You really expect some virgin who spent his whole adolescence being trained by space monks to be some smooth talker?
It's not even just being awkward around his crush, he's just trying to relate in a way that gets the point across that he still thinks about home and his mother and his childhood as a slave on Tattooine in contrast to Padme's very cushy upbringing.
I genuinely don't get why people act like the sand line is just the worst thing that's ever been said in a film.
It's not, morons just like to jump on any bandwagon
People not getting the sand line was a big redpill for me growing up on just how moronic/illiterate the general public is. Like it couldn't be more obvious what Anakin was trying to relay.
There's a difference between getting what a line is meant to convey and thinking that it's therefore a great line of dialogue.
>look at all the cool cgi action bro!
>excellent WORLDBUIlDING xD (Brandon Sanderson esque!)
>BOBA LORE!
>old pacifist elderly jedi master fights the villain and demonstrates his mastery of spins and acrobatics!
>the massive clone army battle was kino bro!
>yeah bro, the romance scenes are awkward cause anakin was a slave and has never flirted before. What? You think that means maybe he would bottle up his emotions and overcompensate by being uncommunicative? The dialogue is Shakespearean bro!
All of that is true
The only one of your points I would agree with is:
>great world building
Sure, I guess. But the movie sucks. It's really hard to give a shit about any of it, and all the plot motions are really contrived just because George knew where he needed to end up.
>some uh clone army is here, for, uh, reasons
>sounds suspicious, we didn't authorize it
>actually, let's use it immediately
...okay?
And the romance maybe could be awkward for Anakin since he's new, sure, but that really doesn't explain her side of it. Maybe she'd frick him or something, but the romance is awufl. Yoda is shit, but if you actually think that lightsaber fight is good not sure if bait or moronic.
>but that really doesn't explain her side of it.
Besides her only romance being when she was 12-13 before she became queen and the subsequent decade as senator.
That wasn’t even a romance. She just had a crush on the guy. Anakin was her first in everything.
frick off incel what would you know about it or anything
That's what I was getting at. She barely had more experience in the romance department than anakin.
Exactly. They were both in the same boat.
I hated this movie as a kid since I found it boring and confusing. Now as an adult O can appreciate more what Lucas was trying to do. The noir influence combined with an old fashioned romance is cool in concept. The problem is it's not executed well. Anakin and Padme's romance doesn't work, you can say Anakin is supposed to act like an autist but it doesn't make sense why Padme would ever fall for him. The only good part is the Obi Wan stuff and even then it's very convoluted and stupid. It's the most interesting of the prequel movies but still not very good.
She’d fall for him because he’s tall, dark and handsome. The bad boy with a sensitive side.
The romance doesn't make sense because for the first half of the movie Padme doesn't seem to be interested in him at all, then suddenly she loves him. Padme spends so long acting irritated with him, and not in a tsundere way, but now she's ready to die with him? There needed to be a scene where we see her starting to fall for him.
She is interested, but apprehensive due to their careers. Watch the movie again.
It doesn't come across that way
Because you weren't paying attention, or you just don't understand social cues.
You never get the sense that Padme is attracted to Anakin once, partly because of the stilted dialogue and flat performances. You watch Empire Strikes Back and even though Princess Leia keeps talking about how annoyed she is with Han Solo you get the sense she likes him because the movie is well written and acted.
>ou watch Empire Strikes Back and even though Princess Leia keeps talking about how annoyed she is with Han Solo you get the sense she likes him because the movie is well written and acted.
The same shit happens in AotC. You're actually just biased against it. Check your biases at the door and just watch the movie.
That's the intention but it doesn't work. Look at a simple exchange in Empire Strikes Back
>Leia: My hands are dirty
>Han: My hands are dirty too, what are you afraid of
while they rub against each other in that cramped space, it's just a couple lines but it perfectly leads into them kissing.
There's nothing like that in Attack of the Clones. Portman's performance in the movie comes across as more actual irritation and annoyance. There are lines like "my hands are dirty" but no lines like "my hands are dirty too".
The sand scene, dude. Pay attention.
yeah but then wienerblock-3p0 comes in and ruins it
It probably helped that Harrison was fricking carrie at the time
>You never get the sense that Padme is attracted to Anakin once, partly because of the stilted dialogue and flat performances
Wrong. https://youtu.be/8OnfFkV6Hkc?si=nZnw00VcKh7bwCQH
From that one scene you get the sense that she's definitely interested in him but also hesitant because of both their positions.
Padme is barely even a character. She just says whatever is necessary to move Anakin along. People fixate too much on Anakin being an unsettling creep and too little on the fact her reactions to Anakin being an unsettling creep demonstrate a complete break from reality.
She was called out for her reaction to him killing the sand people
I find it funny how a bunch of nerds make the claim that Anakin was being raped and creepy, when actual women love the shit out of him and 100% believe in his and Padme’s romance. They even wish they were Padme. Just seems like those guys are just nothing more than male feminist types who say whatever the frick, hoping that these women would look their way.
Those guys are the type to get friend-zoned by these chicks, while a guy like Anakin is the guy they actually want.
>it doesn't make sense why Padme would ever fall for him
Relationships do be like that.
Always liked it best of the prequels.
Why do losers take RLM’s opinions as gospel? Those dudes don’t know shit about movies and can only make trash.
It's a great scifi detective story that actually shows how the jedi operate, which was what I always wanted to see most, and which they for whatever reason don't want to show in the movies or TV-shows.
Too bad those Anakin-Padme scenes are fricking unbearably horrible and need to be skipped
R2 D2 TRIED TO KILL C-3PO
There was no in-universe explanation for R2 to push 3PO off that ledge on Geonosis. It was in the script for hijinks to ensue, but R2 had no way of knowing this. It's bad fricking writing, no way around this FACT.
Frick off, autist.
>I have no counter argument but I must post!
Typical goyslop slurper.
Yeah, you’re definitely an autist.
>C'MON, ARGUE WITH MMEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!
>I NEED THE ATTENTSHUNNNNNNNNN!!!
Enjoy your final crumb here you fricking troll.
One of the worst cases character assasination i've ever seen. Part of the reason i usually skip II on rewatches.
>One of the worst cases character assasination i've ever seen.
Thank God they never brought back Luke Skywalker...
Watch the Rick Worley video. He explains how Mike Stoklasa is a cinematically illiterate hack that has no business broadcasting his opinions on art.
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Are you suggesting that we rescind the freedom of speech an expression?
Yes.
I'm suggesting that we don't give credence to ignorant morons that over confidently speak on subjects that they know next to nothing about.
yeah but then Cinemaphile wouldn't exist
The difference is we're just a bunch of anonymous morons online shitposting, not a popular Youtuber with million of subs that speaks like he's an actual authority on film making.
so don't watch
you spend all your energy obsessing over morons
that makes you a fool
Damn someone's mad I insulted their e daddy lol
And I don't watch, I just like making fun of the midwits that parrot their opinions like a bunch of npc homosexuals
you're the one giving them attention by bringing them up shithead
Read the thread again dumbfrick there was like 3 different posters that brought them up before I did.
We can't have one Star Wars thread without people mentioning those reviews as an attempted dunk like a bunch of braindead redditors.
Death to all RLMdrones.
There is literally 1 good star wars episode and it's ANH. After that it was just a continual downward trajectory of increasingly more pathetic failure. No ESB was not better. Each one is just worse than the preceding one, almost linearly, it really is amazing. All this good will over 1 truly amazing movie made almost 50 fricking years ago. The best star wars is ANH and then supplementary material made by literal whos that were never allowed to just make the movies themselves. This franchise is literally just infinite love from a fan base, and near total cynicism and hunger for money from everyone actually in charge. It's actually wild.
Prequel stuff is a full tier more moronic than sequel stuff, so sorry. Jar Jar and the kid ruined one of them all by themselves, and the OP's movie was moronic and pointless. But the sequels never had a score of 0 for 1 or 0 for 2. The first sequel was the best one.
The prequels had more "what the frick that doesn't make sense" moments per minute than the sequels in general.
Reminder all nu wars is homosexual shit
>he prefers corporate made by committee garbage over the singular vision of an auteur
>the soulless carbon copy of ANH was the best one
low iq Black person detected
He truly is a moronic homosexual. tfa not only made no sense as a sequel to the previous movies. It made no sense as a standalone movie either. I can understand some people not liking the style or execution of the prequels but anyone who praises the sequels deserves to be sterilised.
Kid me was filtered, adult me appreciates it for the sweeping space opera it is. And frankly, teenage love is always cringe. To depict it as non cringe simply wouldn’t be true to reality.
Padme isn't a teenager in Clones. If the opening lines and the first dates of your average teen romance is cringe, it's much less so by the time they get to know each other. Yet Padme and Anakin still act cringe well into their relationship. To say it's anything but the result of poor writing and acting is a reach. To selectively hold one aspect of the "sweeping space opera" to the standard of reality, for the convenience of explaining the lack of quality to it, is also a reach. The romance in these films failed due to a lack of commitment from the creatives involved. Lucas didn't know how to write or direct these scenarios, Portman did not give a shit, and Christensen had no idea how to work with what he was given.
As it so happens, Padme also was doing virtually none of the cringe. She was simply the stoic recipient of said cringe. You are acting as if romance (not the main focus of the film, btw) is something that is best depicted as le quirky relatable with Marvel style quips, when in reality in involves a lot of horny, awkward staring and fumbling the ball. I bet you think the romance in The Lego Movie is Sense and Sensibility. The romance is simply an extension of the political intrigue, a cog in the failure of the Jedi and the completion of The Emperor’s evil scheme. This film is non stop intrigue and you simply refuse to partake because
>where’s my heckin self insert??!!
>Marvel style quips
>I bet you think the romance in The Lego Movie
>where’s my heckin self insert?
That didn't take long to get an avalanche of generic strawmanning out of you.
As opposed to slandering the professionalism and smugly, fool-heartedly assuming the motivations of professional artists.
>it's much less so by the time they get to know each other
They hadn't seen each other since she was 14 and he was 9.
Their romance was done in the old school Hollywood style. That was intentional.
Nobody ever needed those to explain the prequels being shut. I distinctly remember being in middle school and all the kids coming back to school in the weeks following the release of AOTC and even 11 year olds thought it was "fricking gay dude". They're just bad fricking movies. I've also never seen bad movies get so much charity from their audience, seriously nothing in entertainment history has ever gotten more pity for free than Attack specifically. People WANTED to like it so fricking bad countless authors and creators spent literal decades of their fricking lives trying to make the concept compelling and "good". That has never happened for any other movie or story in human fricking history, that's how much people love star wars and how much good will George gets over any other creator. He had no fricking excuse. With Rian and JJ no one was gonna give those clowns the same opportunity.
The entire trilogy is solid.
Every one of these is wrong. The anakin one has some merit except that the scenes still suck because there's no reason padme would ever tolerate him.
>Yoda fight
Every CGI slop action scene must seem incredible to you if you think that fight is good.
>there's no reason padme would ever tolerate him.
Why?
>Slop
Go back.
If we all go see "Star Wars™ - Episode !: The Phantom Menace" on May the 3rd-5th at our local theater we just might get to see "Star Wars™ - Episode II: Attack of the Clones" in theaters next year!
Second one explains why Luke is a manlet compared to his father. He takes after Padme's side of the family.
holy kino
Damn now I want a fan edit with those scenes put back in
one of my favorite kinos. it’s a 70s buddy cop noir in space
laser swords
Almost everything you list is fricking awful.
star wars is really frickin gay.
like all of it. gay.
>“It feels like vindication for the work that we did ... We all wanted to do our very best work, and we cared a lot about it. And so to see the response from the fans now, it’s very cool"
>"My journey with the character and with Star Wars has at times been a bumpy one... but I’m in a good place with it now"
What a chad
>What a chad
Not so much when he was crying about Kevin Smith.
In the end he won, Kevin is relegated to making kids shows now
They've both had their peaks and valleys. I'm just saying it's not very "chad" to run crying to George asking him to sue because someone makes a joke about your character in a movie.
Your new Empire photoshoot?
It's the best prequel and it's futile to pretend otherwise
it's the worst of the prequels you moron
literally incorrect
Its story is too convoluted for its own good, George should have gone through the script again and made the whole plot of setting up the clone army and Padme’s attempted assassination less moronic.
I like Jango and the big arena fight, Count Dooku needed waaaay more screentime and character development (the beginning of the film should have shown him as a noble Jedi becoming disenchanted with the order and showing him quit to Yoda).
Luke watch out for that vicious bounty hunter Boba Fett! Did I ever tell you l fought his dad? He was hired to assassinate a senator me and your father were guarding. We kept bringing her around open windows and public areas in order to draw the would-be assassin out because we knew he had too much pride to just shoot her from long range. He had used his payment to hire another bounty hunter to kill the senator for him while he sent us on a wild bantha chase. Also the 2nd assassin used her payment to buy a robot to assassinate the senator for her. Did I mention the 2nd assassin was a shapeshifter? She could have been a good friend in disguise and just shot the senator for all we knew! Then the robot used its payment to buy poisonous bugs to release into the senators room while she slept after lasering a hole through the window. It could have just lasered her too after that because we we weren't watching her at all but it already bought the bugs. So we sense the hostile life forms not the robot in the room and rush in and save the senator in the nick of time!
Then I jumped out the window to chase the robot back to its owner! Luckily it didn't have a self destruct function. Then we found the 2nd assassin and chased her across the planet and caught her when she tried to kill us instead of shapeshifting and escaping. But to our surprise Jango Fett was watching the whole thing instead of going to kill the senator while we were away chasing the bugs chasing the robot chasing the shapeshifter. He shot her with a poisonous dart instead of sniper blaster and only her instead of shooting all of us or blowing all of us with a rocket or something then he escaped with his tiny jetpack.
Luckily for the senator my good friend Dexterr Jettster owned a 50s dinner on Courscant that had Republic secrets on the menu along with cheeseburgers and malt shakes. We found the assassin and Mace Window killed him later right in front of Boba. And he was a good friend.
>I honestly don't get the hate for this movie
>t. two.digit iq
>The romance between anakin and padme is supposed to awkward because anakin has never flirted before, let alone with a princess.
yeah but we didn't need to see him struggle
it's like watching someone on the toilet
all the best stuff was cut
https://david-talks-sw.tumblr.com/post/685285145515900928/sparse-thoughts-from-reading-the-aotc-screenplay
they had dooku using two sabers against anakin at one stage
most of that still ended up in the film one way or another
are you fricking serious dude? instead of giving an opinion you just tell people to go watch some pooptuber? are zoomers so moronic they cant even regurgitate opinions anymore?
>are you fricking serious dude?
so you are saying that you are indeed reatarded
>Great world building
I've noticed that explaining why what is happening, is happening, filters a lot of people.
the dialogue is only acceptable if you're 12, actually autistic or non-native speaker
Aggressive negotiations is one of the best lines in all 6 movies
stop spamming disney shill go away no one cares anymore because the last jedi fricked it all forever
Reminder all nu wars is homosexual shit
Everybody liked it more than the TPM in '02. People were seriously hyped for Christopher Lee. Its only middle aged fanboys that watched ESB when they were 5 that hold an inordinate amount of hate towards AoTC, and TPM/ROTS for that matter.
The amount of world building alone in AoTC makes it a worthwhile watch for any SW fan.
>>Yoda fighting with his light saber for the first time
I never liked this and wished yoda and the emporeor never used light sabers. I liked the idea of them being wizards that just use powers and didn't need a sword.
Dooku suggested switching to lightsabers when it appeared they were at a stalemate, yoda and the emperor went from powers to lightsabers, back to powers.