Really? Because I'm seeing really great discussions and debates on the series. This is probably one of my favorite Shield threads yet. This is why I still come to this hellish site.
We do, but Sopranos has always been a certified kino of the highest order, so there is no need for memos. Everyone knows Sopranos is good but most of people who discuss that show, havent seen it and only know it from references and memes. It is sad
Worst is when people praise it and call it a masterpiece without knowing why it's so great in the first place and just blindly parrot what other people on Cinemaphile told him to say while at the same time shitting on other shows just because they got filtered big time (kind of like the anon in this thread who's only ever seen 4 seasons of the shield)
There is literally several threads about how kino this is every week on Cinemaphile
Just out of curiousity, have you heard of this obscure show called Justified? It's also very kino, I wish Cinemaphile talked about it more
Captain Rawlings was great. They should’ve kept her around longer or brought her back in the later seasons. It was fun seeing Vic just do good cop shit, albeit a bit rough, while having a command that understood him and allowed him to work.
Yeah Captain Rawlings shows that Vic can be a good cop and that serious change can work within the police department but because of politics (and Rawling's hubris and ruthlessness) that all of it is just a fantasy
>Rawling's hubris
Even with righteous intentions it bit her in the ass.
She was so good and I even saw the axe dropping near the end when she pushed her luck on that CPS house seizure, while the program was being reviewed. Everyone was even telling to chill just a bit but she was a Crusader, which can be a great thing, unfortunately it didn’t work out for her. You could feel her frustration and pain when they cut her, she genuinely wanted to solve problems…no place for that attitude in politics. And Vic was shown on numerous occasions under her to be extremely effective, that made it so frustrating when lesser supervisors would bench him for personal vendettas.
i tried watching this series, after 4 seasons you'll be bored
it's very repetitive, and the characters aren't that interesting and mulit faceted either
i'm saying season 1, 2, 3, and 4 are nothing amazing.
Go watch the sopranos, or breaking bad/better call saul for 4 WHOLE SEASONS, that's enough time to see if a series is good or not.
The shield is just plain boring. OH THE MONEY TRAIN WOOOOOW SO EXCITING!!! fricking hell, pathetic
>criminal actions of the corrupt cops, who think they struck gold, drag them kicking and screaming into an absolute shitshow of internal affairs and paranoid spiraling that they will not get rid of until the end of the show, like some kind of black spot until there is nothing left of them >le boring cause I said so
I'd tell you that you got filtered but you already admitted to it.
I dropped it a few episodes in. It was hella racist, misogynist, and worst of all transphobic. I had to immediately turn it off and watch Arcane afterwards to stop shaking
The thing is about The Shield is it doesn't need to show off how "intelligent" it is unlike shows like The Wire or The Sopranos. It's protrays It's world in an honest light. It's not ever trying to be anything it isn't. This is part of the reason why people have forgotten about this show.
thank you for agreeing with me, the shield has nothing intelligent to say
whereas the wire and the sopranos do have something more than just things happening on a screen
Just because it doesn't visibly show off its intellectual power doesn't mean it isn't there. And in all honesty it's a extremely well written show especially compared to other shows of it's time. You should just admit that the writing flew over your head. Something doesn't need to discuss the infrastructure of an inner city or deal with the meaning of life to be well written. The shield's focus is more on morality among police officers and the dangers of blue blood culture. The Shield's focus is much more tighter and on a much smaller scale unlike The Wire or The Sopranos but that doesn't mean it should be discredited. I feel like you are judging the show based on it's surface level without delving deeping into it's writing. Not only does the show do great with what it's focused on but it also treats it's characters with far more respect and realism. It doesn't baby it's characters or try to make sure their memory isn't tainted by their conclusions. The Sopranos didn't kill Tony or give him what he deserved because that would have destroyed the image of the character. The Shield doesn't do that. It gives its characters what they deserve and they don't care about salting their memories. I just feel like you should the writing a second look.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>morality among police officers and the dangers of blue blood culture
First episode has vic killing an innocent. There is 0 ambiguity in the fact that their team is evil. BORING
Walter white was an every day man before turning into a scarface character, there was a transformation. INTERESTING
>The Sopranos didn't kill Tony or give him what he deserved because that would have destroyed the image of the character.
Tony was killed though? Tony did get what he deserved. Seems like you need to watch the last episode.
The only good point about the shield, is that they pack in a lot of stories in a short time frame. But stories need to have some sort of point/meaning, otherwise it's just pointless.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>There is 0 ambiguity in the fact that their team is evil. BORING.
You are literally moronic. How did you watch four seasons and didn't understand that the morality of a series isn't whether Vic killing a rat is evil. It's the question of whether Strike's team approach is justified in handling Black folk, when all other methods clearly fail, and whether they are the product of the impotent police system that only cares about statistics no matter what. Didn't you watch The Wire? >But stories need to have some sort of point/meaning
You didn't finish the show, you dumb frick. What are you talking about? The Shield had actual balls when it came to its ending instead of giving its main character a reddit power trip like BB had.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>First episode has vic killing an innocent. There is 0 ambiguity in the fact that their team is evil. BORING
They purposefully make Vic look like the villian in the pilot and build up Terry to be the heroic protagonist who will seemingly take him down just so the pilot ending will hit that much harder and catch the viewer by surprise. They also literally show Vic's morally good side in the next episode to contrast with the ending.
>Tony was killed though? Tony did get what he deserved. Seems like you need to watch the last episode.
No, they left it ambiguous on purpose so that the memory of this iconic character won't be tainted on repeated viewings. Which will allow Tony Soprano to remain a timeless character who has lived through the ages of television. The Shield on the other hand doesn't care about that, if anything it plays on how depressing the strike team's ending is with the contrast of the happy montage (with Concrete Blonde's "long time ago" playing in during the slideshow) they play this during the finale's credit
7 months ago
Anonymous
>But stories need to have some sort of point/meaning, otherwise it's just pointless
nta but you're dead wrong, the shield is a classical tragedy, it's a story about a hero who makes a mistake by going too far (the killing of an innocent) and the unforeseen consequences (shane's dissolution of character) that ultimately bring his downfall. You can analyse a dozen different meaningful things about the show, from its portrayal of society/police, to vic's ethics (remember that a lot of people defend him, including in the show's universe as claudette attests, because he does "more good than bad"), and most importantly catharsis in the original dramatic sense (i.e. some people enjoy watching just because they want to experience intense emotions which the shield is good at, others choose to use them as moral lessons)
7 months ago
Anonymous
Well put.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>remember that a lot of people defend him, including in the show's universe as claudette attests, because he does "more good than bad"
Wrong. Even claudette turns against him at some point. And if she knew vic had killed an innocent cop, she'd obviously not support vic at the time she said that.
All the points you bring up are just superficial when it comes to the shield, because we don't start with a character that transforms into something else (a la walter white). I'm not even criticizing the fact that Vic and the strike team are just plain evil,it's that they are nothing else and nothing interesting results of that.
Corrupt police solving cases, woopdeewoo. Nothing is there to actually make kino and emotions.
The characters aren't tortured by what they do (lem is a little bit I guess), they just continue their evil and that's that. It's a mechanical thing.
The show is so fast paced there is no room to let the characters breathe. To let emotions torture them. To let them transform, rebel, revolt etc.
For example, you had one cool scene where dutch kills the cat to understand the mind of a serial killer. That could have been a kino moment if it built into something more. It just sort of happens, and that's it.
You have little moments like this that seem to redeem the show but then you're slapped against the face as a viewer and given back these one dimensional boring dreadful characters that act more like robots or clichés (audette feels lonely oh my) than real human beans.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>you had one cool scene where dutch kills the cat to understand the mind of a serial killer. That could have been a kino moment if it built into something more. It just sort of happens, and that's it.
The writer/producer who came up with that idea wanted to build Dutch up as a serial killer which would have been a terrible idea
7 months ago
Anonymous
It's ambiguous as to whether he is or not, so there's your depth homosexuals.
The kid accuses him of killing his Mom, and you believed his word when he said he wasn't? He already killed a cat which he himself would admit is a precursor to being a serial killer. Also socially awkward, trouble with women, and then he's all fine at the end and suddenly 'got game'? He gets psychoanalysed by the people he interrogates that reveals all kinds of shit about him.
And if every other cop in the show is corrupt in some way, then what is his if not that?
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Even claudette turns against him at some point
Did you even watch the show? Claudette was against him from the beginning, in the first episode she just explains to aceveda why other people, especially civillians are ok with his type of policing because it's effective at making their lives more convenient, regardless of the cost.
>because we don't start with a character that transforms into something else (a la walter white)
because as was mentioned this is a tragedy, it's not about transforming of characters, it's about a character's mistakes leading to their downfall.
>I'm not even criticizing the fact that Vic and the strike team are just plain evil
The show gives you a million examples why it's not that simple, and the strike team has saved many lives that others could not. That's also why gangbangers are celebrating when they learn vic is retiring. It's not as simple as vic bad and claudette good and the show makes it clear as vic even helps mend claudette's mistakes or shortcomings at certain points, just as vic's shortcuts sometimes fail. The message (about the society aspect of the show) is that claudette's type of policing is less effective but doesn't suffer from the unforeseen consequences that vic's behaviour towards society and suspects brings.
>The characters aren't tortured by what they do (lem is a little bit I guess),
I don't even know what to say to this, lem is constantly bothered until his climax in season 5, shane basically enters a downwards spiral which is immediately shown in episode 2, even vic who is normally calm about his decisions in cold blood is not at peace with what he did, he knows he crossed a line but he has to keep going.
The show isn't about transforming characters, nor should it be just because that's what you like. Thank god they didn't go with that dutch serial killer path, it's moronic. It's more about putting characters under the microscope and testing their morals until they snap (or don't).
7 months ago
Anonymous
>>Even claudette turns against him at some point >Did you even watch the show? Claudette was against him from the beginning, in the first episode she just explains to aceveda why other people, especially civillians are ok with his type of policing because it's effective at making their lives more convenient, regardless of the cost.
Claudette didn't have anything against Vic in the beginning because she thought he was just beating up suspects. She only begins to have a problem with Vic once she piece together that he wasn't just beating up suspects but was also involved in selling and profiting from illegal drugs along with other horrible acts. The whole first season Vic and Claudette get along fine.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Claudette didn't have anything against Vic in the beginning
She did, aceveda mentions how vic is al capone with a badge and she basically accepts that, and is visibly angry when aceveda sics vic on the pedo doctor. She's just passive about it because it could spell trouble with mackey's connections as she attests. Ironically though the point you brought up is an example of character development, claudette says she "doesn't judge other cops" at first, but as the show goes on refuses to stay silent and go with the flow after what she's seen.
7 months ago
Anonymous
They literally worked fine together when they had to temporarily shut down the strike team for day. It's the same episode where Shane works with Dutch. Vic had to work with Claudette and they had worked great together and they both got along perfectly fine. I think you do have a good point with Claudette not exactly respecting Vic's methods and that she had developed as a character but it's misrepresentive to say that Claudette hated Vic since the first season. She only showed true disgust and disdain in the second season. In the first season she was rather neutral towards and she saw value in his methods while not exactly agreeing with them. Which, all of this could be considered retconned info with the way they make Claudette obsessed with finally making Vic pay for his crimes because of all the stuff he got away with while she had to suffer in silence.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>they both got along perfectly fine
Eh, they were effective because they are both good cops, and because vic doesn't do anything extreme apart from bullying that druggie which claudette was shocked at. It's more that at that point Vic hasn't interfered with claudette's investigations in order for her to get angry so she's still at that passive phase when it comes to vic. It's subtle but her signs of distatste are there all along, at least that's the feeling I got when I was watching.
7 months ago
Anonymous
indeed, he watches the show while on his smartphone
>Even claudette turns against him at some point
Did you even watch the show? Claudette was against him from the beginning, in the first episode she just explains to aceveda why other people, especially civillians are ok with his type of policing because it's effective at making their lives more convenient, regardless of the cost.
>because we don't start with a character that transforms into something else (a la walter white)
because as was mentioned this is a tragedy, it's not about transforming of characters, it's about a character's mistakes leading to their downfall.
>I'm not even criticizing the fact that Vic and the strike team are just plain evil
The show gives you a million examples why it's not that simple, and the strike team has saved many lives that others could not. That's also why gangbangers are celebrating when they learn vic is retiring. It's not as simple as vic bad and claudette good and the show makes it clear as vic even helps mend claudette's mistakes or shortcomings at certain points, just as vic's shortcuts sometimes fail. The message (about the society aspect of the show) is that claudette's type of policing is less effective but doesn't suffer from the unforeseen consequences that vic's behaviour towards society and suspects brings.
>The characters aren't tortured by what they do (lem is a little bit I guess),
I don't even know what to say to this, lem is constantly bothered until his climax in season 5, shane basically enters a downwards spiral which is immediately shown in episode 2, even vic who is normally calm about his decisions in cold blood is not at peace with what he did, he knows he crossed a line but he has to keep going.
The show isn't about transforming characters, nor should it be just because that's what you like. Thank god they didn't go with that dutch serial killer path, it's moronic. It's more about putting characters under the microscope and testing their morals until they snap (or don't).
It's not that there is no transformation, after all the sopranos characters are all pure evil (except charmaine and artie), yet interesting kino things happen.
It's as I wrote: >I'm not even criticizing the fact that Vic and the strike team are just plain evil,it's that [...] nothing interesting results OUT of that.
Like, you can still have KINO out of purely evil characters, but the strike team just solves cases, steals money (money train), does deals with gangs to get drug money ...
SO MUCH STUFF happens in the shield, yet there IS NO LARGER GRAND POINT.
Ok, if you're a corrupt cop (I.E you're a criminal) then you can solve cases. WOW what an amazing revelation. That's fricking it? BORING
7 months ago
Anonymous
>nothing interesting results OUT of that.
Are you baiting at this point? You straight up admit multiple times you haven't watched past season 4.
7 months ago
Anonymous
yeah, and if you can't have interesting stuff in 4 FREAKING SEASONS, then your show is garbage, sorry anon
7 months ago
Anonymous
Redditor, just because you have horrid taste doesn't mean nothing has happened. And you are screaming that "nothing interesting results OUT of that." when you haven't even seen the result, which is the cherry on top of it all.
It's like criticizing Sopranos because nothing actually happens in the four seasons except the separation of Carm and Tony and completely missing the point of the show. You're doing it right now, you genuine fricking midwit.
7 months ago
Anonymous
so many episodes are pure kino in the sopranos, they're their own little stories (pine barrens, suspicion (meadow's college episode), the football coach episode ...)
In and out of themselves they are like small little movies.
In breaking bad, the overall story has an arch that keeps it tight, you want to follow jesse and walt's adventures, they're exciting.
In the shield, none of that is present. Dutch looks for the serial killer, finally finds him. Done. WOW, such amazing storytelling.
It's like a kid could write these stories.
7 months ago
Anonymous
There's lots of people who could say the same thing about The Sopranos. If anything The Shield has much more going on plot wise. The Sopranos purposely tries to capture that meandering aimless feeling, which works in it's favorite but I know tons of people (not me) who hate The Sopranos for the exact same reason you're hating on The Shield. You could even come up with the same stupid garbage arguments of >Uh Dutch catches a serial killer
With >Uh Tony goes to a therapist and makes zero progress
See how moronic I sound? That is how you're sounding right now
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Uh Tony goes to a therapist and makes zero progress
Don't you see that that is actually interesting and kino? It's a subversion of therapy. The viewer thinks he might become a better man with therapy.
Only to find out (as melfi does) that he's using therapy to rationalize his sociopathy and be an even more efficient and ruthless boss.
It's brilliant!
That's good writing.
The shield, Dutch catches a serial killer, the killer mocks Dutch's beta ways, Dutch kills a cat to try and get what being a killer is ...
Wh... WHAT? How is that good writing?
7 months ago
Anonymous
Dutch wanting to catch the serial killer is so much more than just your simple analysis of it but I don't think I can explain it to your simple mind (nor would I want to waste my time) I know this sounds like a cop out but I'm sure one of the dozens of anons arguing with you could do a much better job then I could. And I'll admit some of the sub plots arent anywhere as good as the main ones but that doesn't mean they weren't well written with no thought put into them. Also you're comparing a main plot from a very well written show to a subplot from an also very well (not as good, but still great) series. Of course it's not going to be as a deep. Maybe you should try comparing a subplot from the sopranos to the shield and you'll have a better argument (not like you got much because you haven't even finished the shield lmao)
7 months ago
Anonymous
An actual redditor? Or someone false flagging as a Soprano fan by pretending to be a bona fide moron to make them look bad?
7 months ago
Anonymous
>In the shield, none of that is present
There a many amazing subplots in the Shiled, from Decoy team to Kavanaugh's mental breakdown. >Dutch looks for the serial killer, finally finds him. Done
Yep, Redditor watched it on his phone. And completely missed a whole season of self-doubt and mockery culminating in the most pathetic character on show actually being full on the money and then breaking down in his car because, once in his life, he was shown a miniscule amount of respect.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I didn't care for the decoy team
7 months ago
Anonymous
I didn't care for Pine Barrens. It's straight up overrated not even top three of the 3rd season, let alone the show.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I agree with this statement. I still liked it but it's the closest thing to being a "reddit" episode throughout the whole series
7 months ago
Anonymous
Are you fricking kidding me? All this time I wasted arguing with someone that hasn't even seen the series?
Man frick you and frick this board, I'll just spam memes too from now on
7 months ago
Anonymous
JUUUUST ANOTHER DAAAAAAY
7 months ago
Anonymous
You need to give the last three seasons a watch before you open your mouth. Your opinion is worthless until you do so. If not for yourself, then do it to prove that all of us are watching a "boring" show. Your arguments will have much more leg room if you at least finish the series
7 months ago
Anonymous
it's pointless since he's had everything spoiled already and even if it wasn't he wouldn't be able to enjoy it because of fanboy prejudice. Sucks but that's how it is. I guess the LARGE GRAND POINT here is for people to finish their damn shows without obsessing over what some imageboard thinks
7 months ago
Anonymous
Pretty sure we've just reached a point where tastes prevent us from arguing further. I repeatedly explained how the strike team is not "purely evil" and the writers show that. Or that you can find messages/points in any of the dozen stories of the characters, not even including vic's as it was explained already. The show is not as serialized early on as the sopranos or the wire, is that your problem? Idk, feels like Im being baited at this point so frick it
7 months ago
Anonymous
> repeatedly explained how the strike team is not "purely evil" and the writers show that.
Vic is nice to his kids and wife, wooow such a multi dimensional rich character. He is kind!
Wow he's kind to a prostitute informant. OH such a beautiful soul Vic has.
Get a grip anon, superficial show for superficial anons. I bet most of you love marvel movies.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Tony is nice to his kids and wife, wooow such a multi dimensional rich character. He is conflicted!
Wow he is kind to animals. Oh such beautiful soul Tony has.
This is you. This is how moronic you sound.
7 months ago
Anonymous
tony nice to his wife? Are you fricking mental?
AJ also disgusts him.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Vic is nice to his wife? Are you fricking mental?
He blames his son's autism on everything in sight and comes to resent him.
Do you see how moronic you sound?
Objectively wrong. Shit, even season 4 revolves around the fact that "doing the right thing" will never be enough from the point of Monica, bringing full circle, Vic's inner justification for his methods. Not even going to mention how much you missed out by dropping it there.
I love this show so much. Legitimately sad when it ended. I put off watching it for a long time since i didn't believe it could have possibly lived up to the way you homosexuals hype it up but insallah it was even better
Easily my number one show of all time
Lem was the only sensible one and he was really the glue holding the team together. Ronnie was too much of a yes man and Shane was too much of a loose cannon, with Lem dead Vic got even shittier.
The ending was weird though. Vic gets up from his desk, goes down to the harbour and drives his boat into a hurricane to fake his death or something? And then you see him working as a lumberjack in Canada in the post-credits scene, where he's talking about putting together a team. What the frick was that shit?
If I remember correctly, he smiles when I takes out his gun from his desk at the end. Meaning that he will find a way to get himself out of this mess too. Another take is that he got away with everything but payed a heavy price for it. He can’t be doing police work, lost his family, friends and reputation.
To be fair, it can tread water in a few places, and there are some hateable characters, but worth tolerating for the kino. Plus you'll never get tired of watching Chiklis going full-mothefricking Mackey. Ending for his character was perfect.
>you'll never get tired of watching Chiklis going full-mothefricking Mackey
This. He kept doing it less and less as the show went on and surrounding forces kept trying to tighten a noose around him. I think it was early season 5 where that Golden Lords Black hit Ronnie in the head with a cross and they’re canvassing a convenience store looking for him. The clerk asks for protection and Mackey just goes and fricks up a random shoplifter telling him to put the word out, it was great.
The original series concept was based on the IRL Rampart Scandal, ('Rampart' was the working title and almost actual title):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rampart_scandal >tl;dr: A station full of corrupt cops with a similar anti-gang unit.
PROTIP: Every cop in 'The Shield' turns out to be corrupt to varying degree in their own unique way. That's what makes it interesting, and the characters so interesting.
The cat-and-mouse plot is done extremely well, which also makes it interesting, but to be fair can feel a little repetitive - especially on a binge, but that's not the best part of the show by far anyway. You're not watching to see if and how they will 'get away' with it in the end. Even if you guess or know the outcome it doesn't make it any less entertaining to watch it happen.
It would be like thinking I could spoil the fall of Lucifer by telling you he turns out to be the Devil. Missing the point.
funny thing about this, the show portrays it as a quasi-racist team of all White cops shaking up minority neighborhoods, when the reality of the Ramparts CRASH unit, was that the majority of corrupt cops were all blacks with some Hispanics mixed in. >muh Creative license
Yeah, but they made the Black guy a voluntary homo, and the Hispanic an involuntary one. If they were pandering I don't know if that's the vibe they would have been looking to put out there.
It was good for storytelling because it's another obstacle the police and the strike team have to face in a minority-run city. Gilroy points out how they're "dinosaurs" demographically in LA, and their extinction is coming soon. It also makes the hood feel more of a hostile environment if it's a white team knocking down on minority doors.
Like one of the more interesting apologetics I heard for the black suit Peter Parker dance scene in Raimi's Spiderman 3 was that's what a dork like Peter Parker thinks "cool" is.
That would actually make it make more sense I guess. Not the women positively responding to him though.
Also mfw that chick from Spiderman is in 'The Shield' playing total opposite character. Holy shit, she gave me the heebie-jeebies where she's really looking all fricked up and taunting Vic.
The whole time I just kept thinking how Vic Mackey needs to be stopped.
Not because he beat up a few black gangbangers, (who cares?), not because he's single-handedly corrupting the whole police force and everything he touches, but because of his unrelenting effort to seed the world with autists.
Vic "corrupting the entire gene pool" Mackey ladies and gentlemen. Even on his free time he's fricking shit up. If pure evil had a face ... and true evil never sleeps.
>Vic just sitting still for like 30 seconds straight in silence as he prepares to confess >The woman recording slowly realising just how fricked up the things she is about to hear will be, her voice and expression changing from friendly and casual to terrified
This is the kind of kino that fulfils 7 seasons of build up. No modern show could do such a thing.
You make it sound like Shane was asking as friend when in reality he was asking as a black mailer. I feel bad for Shane but at the same time he brought that shit storm on himself and he was holding dirt over the same people he called his friends for the whole time he was on the strike team
Vic has a line, even if it's tied up with 'loyalty' to his team, etc. It's why he winds up having issues about what happens to Lem, etc. He definitely ends up crossing that line and becoming a piece of shit even by his own twisted definition. It's all there from the start if you're paying attention:
In vic's moral code family is above the strike team, which is why he does ronnie in like that in the end. He didn't really "cross the line", more like the writers put him in such a position where his real morals show up.
>>This anon... He's just... shitposting. Shitposting all over this board. And we just seethe and clean it up? Anon anonerson POSTS SNEEEEED! He posts racism outside of /b/! He makes off topic posts! You know what he did today, paid me 50 cents! With the sole purpose of humiliating me over my zero dollar paycheck. He may have spammed a JAZZ thread. And that's all in one day! I wonder what he's going to post today! I wonder what he's going to post TOMORROOW! This anon… This anon is just shitposting… He's shitposting all over us… He's shitposting on you… Wha-what does it taste like? Mod, what does it taste like? Because you know what, it tastes like shit to me.
A FRICKING Black person
WITH AN ASS FULL OF CUM
Why didn't you people tell me this was kino?
Because the people who like it are also generally illiterate
Why would you say something so false
ain't seeing much but a bunch of ESLs itt
You sound like an ESL tbh
okay pablo
I accept your concession
Really? Because I'm seeing really great discussions and debates on the series. This is probably one of my favorite Shield threads yet. This is why I still come to this hellish site.
but anon, we have daily threads telling you it's kino
what took you so long
We literally have a single anon making daily threads on the show for the past two months
Black person.
This. Also, why does no one ever discuss The Sopranos?
We do, but Sopranos has always been a certified kino of the highest order, so there is no need for memos. Everyone knows Sopranos is good but most of people who discuss that show, havent seen it and only know it from references and memes. It is sad
Worst is when people praise it and call it a masterpiece without knowing why it's so great in the first place and just blindly parrot what other people on Cinemaphile told him to say while at the same time shitting on other shows just because they got filtered big time (kind of like the anon in this thread who's only ever seen 4 seasons of the shield)
There is literally several threads about how kino this is every week on Cinemaphile
Just out of curiousity, have you heard of this obscure show called Justified? It's also very kino, I wish Cinemaphile talked about it more
justified gets threads but they're mostly walton goggins threads, since to be fair he was the best part of it
How does Justified compare to The Shield. Pls be honest.
MY NAME IS KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDDD
KID SUCK
Previously, on The Shield:
>*BANG*
>We killed... a police officer
>SUCK IT!
>He made... you... SUCK?
>he made you... CHECK EM??
The women on this show suck
Captain Rawlings was great. They should’ve kept her around longer or brought her back in the later seasons. It was fun seeing Vic just do good cop shit, albeit a bit rough, while having a command that understood him and allowed him to work.
Yeah Captain Rawlings shows that Vic can be a good cop and that serious change can work within the police department but because of politics (and Rawling's hubris and ruthlessness) that all of it is just a fantasy
>Rawling's hubris
Even with righteous intentions it bit her in the ass.
She was so good and I even saw the axe dropping near the end when she pushed her luck on that CPS house seizure, while the program was being reviewed. Everyone was even telling to chill just a bit but she was a Crusader, which can be a great thing, unfortunately it didn’t work out for her. You could feel her frustration and pain when they cut her, she genuinely wanted to solve problems…no place for that attitude in politics. And Vic was shown on numerous occasions under her to be extremely effective, that made it so frustrating when lesser supervisors would bench him for personal vendettas.
That cause they all had their roles swapped and act like men would
Claudette is based
>I'm tired of being made to feel like I got singles, too
BAWITABA BADANGADANGBlack folk UPSCOOTMYBOOGIE
i tried watching this series, after 4 seasons you'll be bored
it's very repetitive, and the characters aren't that interesting and mulit faceted either
It unironically jumps from kino to kinoest at season 5 tho. 4 can be a hit or miss though imo
i'm saying season 1, 2, 3, and 4 are nothing amazing.
Go watch the sopranos, or breaking bad/better call saul for 4 WHOLE SEASONS, that's enough time to see if a series is good or not.
The shield is just plain boring. OH THE MONEY TRAIN WOOOOOW SO EXCITING!!! fricking hell, pathetic
It's ok to admit you got filtered, maybe you can ask for some more affirming shows on
>criminal actions of the corrupt cops, who think they struck gold, drag them kicking and screaming into an absolute shitshow of internal affairs and paranoid spiraling that they will not get rid of until the end of the show, like some kind of black spot until there is nothing left of them
>le boring cause I said so
I'd tell you that you got filtered but you already admitted to it.
I dropped it a few episodes in. It was hella racist, misogynist, and worst of all transphobic. I had to immediately turn it off and watch Arcane afterwards to stop shaking
The thing is about The Shield is it doesn't need to show off how "intelligent" it is unlike shows like The Wire or The Sopranos. It's protrays It's world in an honest light. It's not ever trying to be anything it isn't. This is part of the reason why people have forgotten about this show.
thank you for agreeing with me, the shield has nothing intelligent to say
whereas the wire and the sopranos do have something more than just things happening on a screen
But The Shield is entertaining while The Wire isn't. It also had a better ending than The Sopranos
agreed that the wire can be a bit slow
the sopranos had the best ending of any series i've ever seen
"You don't even see it happening" - Bobby to Tony
>Black person thinks he's an intellectual because he watched Sopranos but can't even get the quote right
Damn… rly makes u think
Just because it doesn't visibly show off its intellectual power doesn't mean it isn't there. And in all honesty it's a extremely well written show especially compared to other shows of it's time. You should just admit that the writing flew over your head. Something doesn't need to discuss the infrastructure of an inner city or deal with the meaning of life to be well written. The shield's focus is more on morality among police officers and the dangers of blue blood culture. The Shield's focus is much more tighter and on a much smaller scale unlike The Wire or The Sopranos but that doesn't mean it should be discredited. I feel like you are judging the show based on it's surface level without delving deeping into it's writing. Not only does the show do great with what it's focused on but it also treats it's characters with far more respect and realism. It doesn't baby it's characters or try to make sure their memory isn't tainted by their conclusions. The Sopranos didn't kill Tony or give him what he deserved because that would have destroyed the image of the character. The Shield doesn't do that. It gives its characters what they deserve and they don't care about salting their memories. I just feel like you should the writing a second look.
>morality among police officers and the dangers of blue blood culture
First episode has vic killing an innocent. There is 0 ambiguity in the fact that their team is evil. BORING
Walter white was an every day man before turning into a scarface character, there was a transformation. INTERESTING
>The Sopranos didn't kill Tony or give him what he deserved because that would have destroyed the image of the character.
Tony was killed though? Tony did get what he deserved. Seems like you need to watch the last episode.
The only good point about the shield, is that they pack in a lot of stories in a short time frame. But stories need to have some sort of point/meaning, otherwise it's just pointless.
>There is 0 ambiguity in the fact that their team is evil. BORING.
You are literally moronic. How did you watch four seasons and didn't understand that the morality of a series isn't whether Vic killing a rat is evil. It's the question of whether Strike's team approach is justified in handling Black folk, when all other methods clearly fail, and whether they are the product of the impotent police system that only cares about statistics no matter what. Didn't you watch The Wire?
>But stories need to have some sort of point/meaning
You didn't finish the show, you dumb frick. What are you talking about? The Shield had actual balls when it came to its ending instead of giving its main character a reddit power trip like BB had.
>First episode has vic killing an innocent. There is 0 ambiguity in the fact that their team is evil. BORING
They purposefully make Vic look like the villian in the pilot and build up Terry to be the heroic protagonist who will seemingly take him down just so the pilot ending will hit that much harder and catch the viewer by surprise. They also literally show Vic's morally good side in the next episode to contrast with the ending.
>Tony was killed though? Tony did get what he deserved. Seems like you need to watch the last episode.
No, they left it ambiguous on purpose so that the memory of this iconic character won't be tainted on repeated viewings. Which will allow Tony Soprano to remain a timeless character who has lived through the ages of television. The Shield on the other hand doesn't care about that, if anything it plays on how depressing the strike team's ending is with the contrast of the happy montage (with Concrete Blonde's "long time ago" playing in during the slideshow) they play this during the finale's credit
>But stories need to have some sort of point/meaning, otherwise it's just pointless
nta but you're dead wrong, the shield is a classical tragedy, it's a story about a hero who makes a mistake by going too far (the killing of an innocent) and the unforeseen consequences (shane's dissolution of character) that ultimately bring his downfall. You can analyse a dozen different meaningful things about the show, from its portrayal of society/police, to vic's ethics (remember that a lot of people defend him, including in the show's universe as claudette attests, because he does "more good than bad"), and most importantly catharsis in the original dramatic sense (i.e. some people enjoy watching just because they want to experience intense emotions which the shield is good at, others choose to use them as moral lessons)
Well put.
>remember that a lot of people defend him, including in the show's universe as claudette attests, because he does "more good than bad"
Wrong. Even claudette turns against him at some point. And if she knew vic had killed an innocent cop, she'd obviously not support vic at the time she said that.
All the points you bring up are just superficial when it comes to the shield, because we don't start with a character that transforms into something else (a la walter white). I'm not even criticizing the fact that Vic and the strike team are just plain evil,it's that they are nothing else and nothing interesting results of that.
Corrupt police solving cases, woopdeewoo. Nothing is there to actually make kino and emotions.
The characters aren't tortured by what they do (lem is a little bit I guess), they just continue their evil and that's that. It's a mechanical thing.
The show is so fast paced there is no room to let the characters breathe. To let emotions torture them. To let them transform, rebel, revolt etc.
For example, you had one cool scene where dutch kills the cat to understand the mind of a serial killer. That could have been a kino moment if it built into something more. It just sort of happens, and that's it.
You have little moments like this that seem to redeem the show but then you're slapped against the face as a viewer and given back these one dimensional boring dreadful characters that act more like robots or clichés (audette feels lonely oh my) than real human beans.
>you had one cool scene where dutch kills the cat to understand the mind of a serial killer. That could have been a kino moment if it built into something more. It just sort of happens, and that's it.
The writer/producer who came up with that idea wanted to build Dutch up as a serial killer which would have been a terrible idea
It's ambiguous as to whether he is or not, so there's your depth homosexuals.
The kid accuses him of killing his Mom, and you believed his word when he said he wasn't? He already killed a cat which he himself would admit is a precursor to being a serial killer. Also socially awkward, trouble with women, and then he's all fine at the end and suddenly 'got game'? He gets psychoanalysed by the people he interrogates that reveals all kinds of shit about him.
And if every other cop in the show is corrupt in some way, then what is his if not that?
>Even claudette turns against him at some point
Did you even watch the show? Claudette was against him from the beginning, in the first episode she just explains to aceveda why other people, especially civillians are ok with his type of policing because it's effective at making their lives more convenient, regardless of the cost.
>because we don't start with a character that transforms into something else (a la walter white)
because as was mentioned this is a tragedy, it's not about transforming of characters, it's about a character's mistakes leading to their downfall.
>I'm not even criticizing the fact that Vic and the strike team are just plain evil
The show gives you a million examples why it's not that simple, and the strike team has saved many lives that others could not. That's also why gangbangers are celebrating when they learn vic is retiring. It's not as simple as vic bad and claudette good and the show makes it clear as vic even helps mend claudette's mistakes or shortcomings at certain points, just as vic's shortcuts sometimes fail. The message (about the society aspect of the show) is that claudette's type of policing is less effective but doesn't suffer from the unforeseen consequences that vic's behaviour towards society and suspects brings.
>The characters aren't tortured by what they do (lem is a little bit I guess),
I don't even know what to say to this, lem is constantly bothered until his climax in season 5, shane basically enters a downwards spiral which is immediately shown in episode 2, even vic who is normally calm about his decisions in cold blood is not at peace with what he did, he knows he crossed a line but he has to keep going.
The show isn't about transforming characters, nor should it be just because that's what you like. Thank god they didn't go with that dutch serial killer path, it's moronic. It's more about putting characters under the microscope and testing their morals until they snap (or don't).
>>Even claudette turns against him at some point
>Did you even watch the show? Claudette was against him from the beginning, in the first episode she just explains to aceveda why other people, especially civillians are ok with his type of policing because it's effective at making their lives more convenient, regardless of the cost.
Claudette didn't have anything against Vic in the beginning because she thought he was just beating up suspects. She only begins to have a problem with Vic once she piece together that he wasn't just beating up suspects but was also involved in selling and profiting from illegal drugs along with other horrible acts. The whole first season Vic and Claudette get along fine.
>Claudette didn't have anything against Vic in the beginning
She did, aceveda mentions how vic is al capone with a badge and she basically accepts that, and is visibly angry when aceveda sics vic on the pedo doctor. She's just passive about it because it could spell trouble with mackey's connections as she attests. Ironically though the point you brought up is an example of character development, claudette says she "doesn't judge other cops" at first, but as the show goes on refuses to stay silent and go with the flow after what she's seen.
They literally worked fine together when they had to temporarily shut down the strike team for day. It's the same episode where Shane works with Dutch. Vic had to work with Claudette and they had worked great together and they both got along perfectly fine. I think you do have a good point with Claudette not exactly respecting Vic's methods and that she had developed as a character but it's misrepresentive to say that Claudette hated Vic since the first season. She only showed true disgust and disdain in the second season. In the first season she was rather neutral towards and she saw value in his methods while not exactly agreeing with them. Which, all of this could be considered retconned info with the way they make Claudette obsessed with finally making Vic pay for his crimes because of all the stuff he got away with while she had to suffer in silence.
>they both got along perfectly fine
Eh, they were effective because they are both good cops, and because vic doesn't do anything extreme apart from bullying that druggie which claudette was shocked at. It's more that at that point Vic hasn't interfered with claudette's investigations in order for her to get angry so she's still at that passive phase when it comes to vic. It's subtle but her signs of distatste are there all along, at least that's the feeling I got when I was watching.
indeed, he watches the show while on his smartphone
It's not that there is no transformation, after all the sopranos characters are all pure evil (except charmaine and artie), yet interesting kino things happen.
It's as I wrote:
>I'm not even criticizing the fact that Vic and the strike team are just plain evil,it's that [...] nothing interesting results OUT of that.
Like, you can still have KINO out of purely evil characters, but the strike team just solves cases, steals money (money train), does deals with gangs to get drug money ...
SO MUCH STUFF happens in the shield, yet there IS NO LARGER GRAND POINT.
Ok, if you're a corrupt cop (I.E you're a criminal) then you can solve cases. WOW what an amazing revelation. That's fricking it? BORING
>nothing interesting results OUT of that.
Are you baiting at this point? You straight up admit multiple times you haven't watched past season 4.
yeah, and if you can't have interesting stuff in 4 FREAKING SEASONS, then your show is garbage, sorry anon
Redditor, just because you have horrid taste doesn't mean nothing has happened. And you are screaming that "nothing interesting results OUT of that." when you haven't even seen the result, which is the cherry on top of it all.
It's like criticizing Sopranos because nothing actually happens in the four seasons except the separation of Carm and Tony and completely missing the point of the show. You're doing it right now, you genuine fricking midwit.
so many episodes are pure kino in the sopranos, they're their own little stories (pine barrens, suspicion (meadow's college episode), the football coach episode ...)
In and out of themselves they are like small little movies.
In breaking bad, the overall story has an arch that keeps it tight, you want to follow jesse and walt's adventures, they're exciting.
In the shield, none of that is present. Dutch looks for the serial killer, finally finds him. Done. WOW, such amazing storytelling.
It's like a kid could write these stories.
There's lots of people who could say the same thing about The Sopranos. If anything The Shield has much more going on plot wise. The Sopranos purposely tries to capture that meandering aimless feeling, which works in it's favorite but I know tons of people (not me) who hate The Sopranos for the exact same reason you're hating on The Shield. You could even come up with the same stupid garbage arguments of
>Uh Dutch catches a serial killer
With
>Uh Tony goes to a therapist and makes zero progress
See how moronic I sound? That is how you're sounding right now
>Uh Tony goes to a therapist and makes zero progress
Don't you see that that is actually interesting and kino? It's a subversion of therapy. The viewer thinks he might become a better man with therapy.
Only to find out (as melfi does) that he's using therapy to rationalize his sociopathy and be an even more efficient and ruthless boss.
It's brilliant!
That's good writing.
The shield, Dutch catches a serial killer, the killer mocks Dutch's beta ways, Dutch kills a cat to try and get what being a killer is ...
Wh... WHAT? How is that good writing?
Dutch wanting to catch the serial killer is so much more than just your simple analysis of it but I don't think I can explain it to your simple mind (nor would I want to waste my time) I know this sounds like a cop out but I'm sure one of the dozens of anons arguing with you could do a much better job then I could. And I'll admit some of the sub plots arent anywhere as good as the main ones but that doesn't mean they weren't well written with no thought put into them. Also you're comparing a main plot from a very well written show to a subplot from an also very well (not as good, but still great) series. Of course it's not going to be as a deep. Maybe you should try comparing a subplot from the sopranos to the shield and you'll have a better argument (not like you got much because you haven't even finished the shield lmao)
An actual redditor? Or someone false flagging as a Soprano fan by pretending to be a bona fide moron to make them look bad?
>In the shield, none of that is present
There a many amazing subplots in the Shiled, from Decoy team to Kavanaugh's mental breakdown.
>Dutch looks for the serial killer, finally finds him. Done
Yep, Redditor watched it on his phone. And completely missed a whole season of self-doubt and mockery culminating in the most pathetic character on show actually being full on the money and then breaking down in his car because, once in his life, he was shown a miniscule amount of respect.
I didn't care for the decoy team
I didn't care for Pine Barrens. It's straight up overrated not even top three of the 3rd season, let alone the show.
I agree with this statement. I still liked it but it's the closest thing to being a "reddit" episode throughout the whole series
Are you fricking kidding me? All this time I wasted arguing with someone that hasn't even seen the series?
Man frick you and frick this board, I'll just spam memes too from now on
JUUUUST ANOTHER DAAAAAAY
You need to give the last three seasons a watch before you open your mouth. Your opinion is worthless until you do so. If not for yourself, then do it to prove that all of us are watching a "boring" show. Your arguments will have much more leg room if you at least finish the series
it's pointless since he's had everything spoiled already and even if it wasn't he wouldn't be able to enjoy it because of fanboy prejudice. Sucks but that's how it is. I guess the LARGE GRAND POINT here is for people to finish their damn shows without obsessing over what some imageboard thinks
Pretty sure we've just reached a point where tastes prevent us from arguing further. I repeatedly explained how the strike team is not "purely evil" and the writers show that. Or that you can find messages/points in any of the dozen stories of the characters, not even including vic's as it was explained already. The show is not as serialized early on as the sopranos or the wire, is that your problem? Idk, feels like Im being baited at this point so frick it
> repeatedly explained how the strike team is not "purely evil" and the writers show that.
Vic is nice to his kids and wife, wooow such a multi dimensional rich character. He is kind!
Wow he's kind to a prostitute informant. OH such a beautiful soul Vic has.
Get a grip anon, superficial show for superficial anons. I bet most of you love marvel movies.
Tony is nice to his kids and wife, wooow such a multi dimensional rich character. He is conflicted!
Wow he is kind to animals. Oh such beautiful soul Tony has.
This is you. This is how moronic you sound.
tony nice to his wife? Are you fricking mental?
AJ also disgusts him.
Vic is nice to his wife? Are you fricking mental?
He blames his son's autism on everything in sight and comes to resent him.
Do you see how moronic you sound?
filtered. stakes are way higher from s4 on.
Objectively wrong. Shit, even season 4 revolves around the fact that "doing the right thing" will never be enough from the point of Monica, bringing full circle, Vic's inner justification for his methods. Not even going to mention how much you missed out by dropping it there.
seasons 4 and 5 are excellent though
unironically you missed out on the best seasons ever aired on tv
Mentally challenged take
for me its gotta be kern little
What did this homie do again?
killed the guy he was locked in a container with instead of resolving their issues overnight. he was a good friend
Oh yeah he was based. I love the ending with him and Mackey staring at the sun rise
here is some data to prove that after 4 seasons, most people just drop this shitty boring series
quantitatively proven
That could be over a number of reasons. Saying it's "boring" is just your projection
I love this show so much. Legitimately sad when it ended. I put off watching it for a long time since i didn't believe it could have possibly lived up to the way you homosexuals hype it up but insallah it was even better
Easily my number one show of all time
I watched it a few months ago myself, fricking great show man.
how did you feel after lem's death ? I was fricking shook for days.
lmao nta but it was the same for me, for some reason I stopped watching for a few days to really come to terms with it, hasn't happened before
this is the kind of people that watch the shield...
Lem was the only sensible one and he was really the glue holding the team together. Ronnie was too much of a yes man and Shane was too much of a loose cannon, with Lem dead Vic got even shittier.
It's quite a good show. The final season is about as good as it gets for a show like this. Everyone had a fitting ending.
The ending was weird though. Vic gets up from his desk, goes down to the harbour and drives his boat into a hurricane to fake his death or something? And then you see him working as a lumberjack in Canada in the post-credits scene, where he's talking about putting together a team. What the frick was that shit?
That never happened
If I remember correctly, he smiles when I takes out his gun from his desk at the end. Meaning that he will find a way to get himself out of this mess too. Another take is that he got away with everything but payed a heavy price for it. He can’t be doing police work, lost his family, friends and reputation.
He's ICE problem now. The only question is if ICE is as disorganized as the LAPD.
Fun Fact: The first episode is the only episode where no one says "Previously, on The Shield."
What about the co-pilot episode?
That episode sucked so who cares
>DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
Why don't we ever see Vic wearing the strike team shirt again?
To be fair, it can tread water in a few places, and there are some hateable characters, but worth tolerating for the kino. Plus you'll never get tired of watching Chiklis going full-mothefricking Mackey. Ending for his character was perfect.
>you'll never get tired of watching Chiklis going full-mothefricking Mackey
This. He kept doing it less and less as the show went on and surrounding forces kept trying to tighten a noose around him. I think it was early season 5 where that Golden Lords Black hit Ronnie in the head with a cross and they’re canvassing a convenience store looking for him. The clerk asks for protection and Mackey just goes and fricks up a random shoplifter telling him to put the word out, it was great.
The final season is the best season and the finale is top 5 all time finales.
For me I like the 5th season more but 7th season is still great, just really depressing on repeat watch thru
Wait till you get to the most kino episode.
Many homosexuals in this thread are wrong.
The original series concept was based on the IRL Rampart Scandal, ('Rampart' was the working title and almost actual title):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rampart_scandal
>tl;dr: A station full of corrupt cops with a similar anti-gang unit.
PROTIP: Every cop in 'The Shield' turns out to be corrupt to varying degree in their own unique way. That's what makes it interesting, and the characters so interesting.
The cat-and-mouse plot is done extremely well, which also makes it interesting, but to be fair can feel a little repetitive - especially on a binge, but that's not the best part of the show by far anyway. You're not watching to see if and how they will 'get away' with it in the end. Even if you guess or know the outcome it doesn't make it any less entertaining to watch it happen.
It would be like thinking I could spoil the fall of Lucifer by telling you he turns out to be the Devil. Missing the point.
>Many homosexuals
It's one guy who watched Sopranos 2 days ago for the first time, though.
funny thing about this, the show portrays it as a quasi-racist team of all White cops shaking up minority neighborhoods, when the reality of the Ramparts CRASH unit, was that the majority of corrupt cops were all blacks with some Hispanics mixed in.
>muh Creative license
Yeah, but they made the Black guy a voluntary homo, and the Hispanic an involuntary one. If they were pandering I don't know if that's the vibe they would have been looking to put out there.
It was good for storytelling because it's another obstacle the police and the strike team have to face in a minority-run city. Gilroy points out how they're "dinosaurs" demographically in LA, and their extinction is coming soon. It also makes the hood feel more of a hostile environment if it's a white team knocking down on minority doors.
>too bad about your son though
>Black person homosexual son
LMAO
This show was always Cinemaphile
Every thread until you fricking like it.
Incredibly based.
I love these old promos for these older shows
he's literally me
This so screams Dutch despite him never using a gun and rarely ever holding one at that too
This promo is what Dutch would make if he was in charge of his own promo
He probably would make it less like an action hero and more like a suave ladies man
He is a suave ladies man.
Didn't he frick Vic's ex wife?
>He fricked someone's ex wife once? That must mean he is really good with women.
hey dutch
Like one of the more interesting apologetics I heard for the black suit Peter Parker dance scene in Raimi's Spiderman 3 was that's what a dork like Peter Parker thinks "cool" is.
That would actually make it make more sense I guess. Not the women positively responding to him though.
Also mfw that chick from Spiderman is in 'The Shield' playing total opposite character. Holy shit, she gave me the heebie-jeebies where she's really looking all fricked up and taunting Vic.
Needs more cats.
>The POV of when you're a stray cat in an abandoned warehouse with Dutch
Holy shit
The whole time I just kept thinking how Vic Mackey needs to be stopped.
Not because he beat up a few black gangbangers, (who cares?), not because he's single-handedly corrupting the whole police force and everything he touches, but because of his unrelenting effort to seed the world with autists.
Vic "corrupting the entire gene pool" Mackey ladies and gentlemen. Even on his free time he's fricking shit up. If pure evil had a face ... and true evil never sleeps.
Definitely one of the best pilot episodes of all time.
>how much memory does that thing have?
>During a raid on a dealer named Two Time.......
During a space mission with my best friend Reed ...
>Vic just sitting still for like 30 seconds straight in silence as he prepares to confess
>The woman recording slowly realising just how fricked up the things she is about to hear will be, her voice and expression changing from friendly and casual to terrified
This is the kind of kino that fulfils 7 seasons of build up. No modern show could do such a thing.
>When Shane called him to help him, but told him that he cut a deal with feds.
Gruesome
You make it sound like Shane was asking as friend when in reality he was asking as a black mailer. I feel bad for Shane but at the same time he brought that shit storm on himself and he was holding dirt over the same people he called his friends for the whole time he was on the strike team
What are they looking at? Dead body cop?
Vic has a line, even if it's tied up with 'loyalty' to his team, etc. It's why he winds up having issues about what happens to Lem, etc. He definitely ends up crossing that line and becoming a piece of shit even by his own twisted definition. It's all there from the start if you're paying attention:
?t=112
In vic's moral code family is above the strike team, which is why he does ronnie in like that in the end. He didn't really "cross the line", more like the writers put him in such a position where his real morals show up.
>Good cop and bad left for the day, I’m A different kind of cop.
Seething guy who screams "He can't keep getting away with it" the character
BLOW YOUR HANDS UP
ROCK ME SANTA
JUST ANOTHER GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY
Huge quality dropoff bro
Worse than The Expanse
lol it's like one of the only shows I can think of that constantly gets better as it goes on
the expanse had that potential too, they just fricked it
Are you fricking high? It's one of the few shows that gets better with the later seasons.
>rewatching
>pure kino, obviously
>start s3
>shane's psycho gf appears
Oh no
This actually made me sad
🙁
Why did he cry here?
Because he outsmarted and caught a serial killer at cost of him being berated for at least several hours which caused him to become sad
it's also the fact that he was applauded in the end, he was finally accepted by his peers and recognised for his abilities
no
this is the reason
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The original janny
Why is this thread randomly dying now?
The thirties are all nestling in for sleepy time