I just saw this for the second time. Holy frick, this movie is terrible. The first time I watched it, I thought it was decent, but now I realize that it sucks and the franchise should have ended with Fallout. Nothing that any of the characters do makes any sense, Ilsa is completely useless, and the first 20 minutes could have been cut entirely. This is the most illogical and incomprehensible plot of the entire series and the somehow managed to make a worse movie then M:I 3.
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Toms career is over
He is Hollywood
Keep coping, israelite.
It's pretty mid yeah. Just saw it today and granted I haven't seen any since the first one but it just felt like generic action slop. Hayley Atwell is hot in it at least
I hear that happens on the second viewing. However, it clicks in a way that just hits different in the third viewing. Highly recommend. Cruise Kino needs to marinate, it always has.
holy mother of cope. Your movie isn't making a billy, Tom, get over it.
Can confirm. After i saw it for the 3rd time i just got it. Probably my favorite movie this year.
Truth
Honestly this is only one layer of truth. I saw it for the fourth time and honestly, it might be the best film I’ve ever seen.
This guy gets it. I'm on my eight viewing and I feel as if I'm barely scratching the surface.
I saw it three times, my grades
>F-
>A-
>G
If you think that, just wait until your 4th viewing... it truly is the GOAT movie
this, let the movie cook, then microwave, then recook
Agreed. Watched it for the 12th time today and can confirm this is a masterpiece
Watched it for my 50th time today. Didn't really get it the previous times but now I finally think this might be the best movie ever made.
There's a good 100-minute movie in there. But its bloated with these long exposition scenes where the actors.... PAUSE.... dramatically... and WHISPER... while the angled camera is only... INCHES... from their... FACES...
>There's a good 100-minute movie
I think it could be a 2 hour movie easily. Cut the submarine intro, the Ilsa subplot, and the bomb that goes nowhere. Give the characters coherent reasoning behind their actions which would eliminate probably half an hour of fake tension. Bam! It's a great 2 hour action flick. But this movie has to be ridiculously long because apparently a movie isn't good anymore unless it makes you piss yourself in the theater.
I suspect these insane runtimes are to muscle out any possible competition. So since Mission Impossible is 3 hours long, that meant theaters would have less time to screen another showing of Indy 5. (Turns out Paramount didn't have to worry about that.)
>cut the submarine intro
WHY DO YOU SUCK SO MUCH wiener PLEASE BREATHE YOU CAN'T INHALE SO MUCH CUM
Spoilers. please
>Enters a thread about a movie he hasn't seen
>Complains about spoilers
Anything over two hours that isn’t a historical epic or science fiction is just too much. Especially for generic (well made) action movies, like these have become.
Tom's Xenu-ego went into overdrive on this movie. He always tries to add add add shit to scenes to "heighten the stakes." Like in the very first M:I movie a rat showed up in the air duct of the state-of-the-art security room they were infiltrating. Now we have surprise suitcase nukes with 3rd grade riddles and magic AI piping "gotcha-bitch" into Cruise's ear.
He removed his thetans and now he's the biggest star in the Hollywood. Maybe Scientology is right.
This. The constant extreme close-ups was annoying as frick when it keeps cutting so they can finish each other's sentences for 10 minutes.
I've literally only ever seen the first one
It was good
I don't get the appeal of the sequels
Watch 4, 5 and 6. If only, just watch 4. It's that good.
As much as I hate JJ, three is worth watching just for Hoffmann and the scenes in Italy.
3 is ruined by the bait and switch
which bait and switch is that?
I baited into the one with Henry Cavil bc it was “da best action movie”. That shit was lame. The same thing is occurring again with this one
Atwell's hot bod is the only thing this one has going for it.
This is one of the main reasons I want to see this movie in the theatre.
I'll save you a ticket. She's beautiful but all she ever wears throughout the entire film are masculine pant suits. They hide her chest/figure at all costs. All you get is her pretty face and hair (fair play, she does have those things going for her, but still). The plot also makes moronic use of her. The entire film is just Ethan repeatedly chasing her down, trusting her for a moment, and being tricked last second so she gets away like Carmen Sandiego. Literally every set piece boils down to that.
>so she gets away like Carmen Sandiego
That's pretty Kino tbhf
It sounds cooler than it is. She's just a dumbass civilian who keeps running away from everyone and thinking she's a genius for it, while constantly almost dying despite Ethan's best efforts to save her dumb ass. She's an idiotic character in an idiotic story that doesn't work at all. And it ripped off all of its best set pieces/story moments from the old show Chuck almost shot for shot. Ironic considering that show was basically a parody/homage of the old 60's and 70's spy shows like Mission Impossible, Get Smart, and Charlie's Angels
>The entire film is just Ethan repeatedly chasing her down, trusting her for a moment, and being tricked last second so she gets away like Carmen Sandiego.
I liked the movie but this really pissed me off after the third time it happened
I wanted to know why she was running away from him. She was clearly in over her head, and Ethan was the only one who was going to protect her dumb ass. Did she think she was just going to give up the key piece and then just walk away?
>I wanted to know why she was running away from him. She was clearly in over her head, and Ethan was the only one who was going to protect her dumb ass. Did she think she was just going to give up the key piece and then just walk away?
She didn't know who he was, she was always working alone and didn't trust anyone
>britbong 10
lmao. you guys need to get your eyes checked. a woofer if i ever saw one.
Sorry but she's too thin and her breasts are gone.
They did a better job in Casino Royale while the 007 franchise had not been contaminated yet by gays, having Hayley and her not appearing in cleavage any time and only wearing men's clothes is something that makes you hate the movie brings that vibe of seeing Salma in the MCU wearing a burqa
I watched it and it was kino of the highest order.
Op is a gay
tenth post best post. cope and sneed OP.
We're shills btw, not sure if that matters.
it was a fun movie Black person. you dont like fun?
These 'people' b***hing about this movie in this board are fricking idiots that nobody irl would like to be around with.
>the first 20 minutes could have been cut entirely.
This. It was weird how the characters kept taking turns saying sentences in the same paragraph to explain the story. what the frick
>"she went invisible into hiding forever"
>cuts to Tom Cruise immediately finding her
>"but now she did it this time"
>cuts to her randomly being inside the van in Rome that conveniently finds Tom Cruise just in the nick of time
I laughed hard both times.
It's an unnecessary throwback to MI1 which was like that
I didn't mind it, but it felt like they were going through unnecessary hoops to lenghten the scene and basically say "we created an A.I. and now it has gone rogue."
none of them have been worth watching since the first one
It could have done without the flashbacks to almost entire scenes from earlier in the movie.
Bro, it was kino.
this and John Wick 4 are the best action movies in decades. no forced diversity other than that token bounty hunter in JW4
Found the NPC
>enjoying kino means you're an npc
Isn’t the Black person woman CIA chief back in this one? And aren’t they’re still female spies that can beat up the men like they’re hulk hogan?
OP is a homosexual. The movie was kino, patriot Tom fights AI which slowly became self aware and began probing human tech and defense vulnerabilities. Nerds are mad because it didn't take control overnight like Terminator or Matrix. Action scenes were kino, spy tech is cool. Onions homosexuals hate Cruise, the last true action hero. The israelite fears the Scientologist.
You should watch it a 3rd time, you'll change your mind I promise.
it should have ended after the first film
Frick off Disney shills. Glad noone's watching your crappy flicks.
Just saw it recently. To me, it was solid good fun for a summer movie, but can't compete with the high bar they set with the last film. Main problems for me was how non threatening the entity was and how the evil psychotic chick becomes nice in a totally forced manner.
>The entity
After thinking about it, i do believe The
Entity is not a malevolent AI per se (like the usual trope). Why? Because of the line: whoever gets the entity gets unlimited power". It's "le bad people" trying to take advantage of it. I'd say it just wants to live and nothing else. The movie isn't very good in explaining certain stuff.
That comes in part II.
>how non threatening the entity was and how the evil psychotic chick becomes nice in a totally forced manner
the director came to his senses about how cringe that character was and tried to salvage her at the last minute
LOL. I haven't even seen this and i know it will be at least an 8/10. Stop being Contrarian for no reason. Cruise, McQuarrie and co have this formula down by now. They will give more of the same and it will be fine.
I just rewatched Fallout. Why does it look so much better visually? Cutting it IMAX was a bit jarring, but it gave the action such a clean, 'real' feel. Every action scene in Dead Reckoning has this weird CGI smear to it. Seriously, what's the point in doing all the hard work for these stunts, when you're not even going to make them look good?
I did like the comedic bits in Dead Reckoning.
this fricking thread. it's been quite a while since i've seen a shill force this pathetically obvious.
i suppose when the next movie is out we'll see if this was a covid fluke or if they're just phoning it in.
>I like the comedic bits in Dead Reckoning
The comedy was so unnecessary in this. Like what the frick was that car chase scene?
they ripped the car chase from for your eyes only, same "this YELLOW car is a piece of shit and constantly rolls over downhill" joke, same "the woman is such a bad driver that the guy has to take over" joke and everything
it's clearly an homage and a good clue that they intended for this movie to be as goofy as roger moore era bond, which is a direction i don't agree with
Yeah, i can blame the fanbase, a lot of fans were saying Rogue Nation and Fallout felt too serious and samey and that they liked Ghost Protocol better, McQuarrie and Tom go back for some goofiness but we realize we were already accustomed to the new style.
Thats why it feels like tonal whiplash. That and Rebecca's moronic decision, thank good she's free from Dune now.
What the frick those are the two best missions
He's a shill. He probably watches Fast and the Furious.
>What the frick those are the two best missions
They are, but the franchise is too big and the first 4 movies all have different tones, so people have their favorites. And Ghost Protocol happens to have the biggest fanbase outside of the McQ movies.
Ok Indyhomosexual.
Ghost Protocol is fully written and directed by Tom Cruise himself. Brad Bird is just a name to direct the movie. That's why it's so good.
People liked GP because of hot chocolate mama speaking of her what happened to her she was great. That movie was fricking moronic at the end Ethan fighting some old frick, that shit sucked at the end.
>People liked GP because of hot chocolate mama speaking of her what happened to her she was great
The movies make a point that if you don't see someone in the next movie you have to assume they died or are on a mission on the other side of the world, bonds (heh) are not encouraged because you get self righteous teams live Benji-Ethan-Luther
not the only thing they rip from this same movie
the entire premise of "politically important macguffin is in a shipwreck at the bottom of the sea and you have to go get it before our enemies do" is taken from for your eyes only
they even start the same way (they establish how important the macguffin is, then the ship sinks)
i assume the big tom cruise stunt for part 2 was supposed to be actually filming underwater and having a fight scene between ethan and gabriel in those big atmospheric diving suits (picrel) just like how they do it in for your eyes only, but with the titanic sub incident and the sag strike who knows if it'll push through
im talking more the little comedic gags, like Cruise doing the Cruise Run on the airport roof in the background of one shot, Cruise flinging his bike into frame while Atwell is dazes, etc. it very much reminded me of an old silent film, thought it was fun.
1) What was with the bomb? Why was this never explained? What purpose did it serve?
2) Same as above, but with the fake key. Where did it even come from?
3) What was Grace's plan when she 'put-pocketed' the key on the guy on the plane? Just assume that he'd want top meet up after?
4) What was Grace's plan when she ran away in Venice? Sell the key to somebody else? to who???
5) How did Ethan know kKttridge would even be on the train?
6) Why is there no physicality in this movie? The fights suck and Tom doesn't do any physical stunts in this movie compared to Fallout where he jumped onto the side of a building, jumped out of a window, and fell 30 feet onto a helicopter's cargo.
7) The AI villain is beyond moronic and makes zero sense if you think about it for longer than half a second.
>1) What was with the bomb? Why was this never explained? What purpose did it serve?
In the airport? It was a distraction so Grace would escape with the key and also a way for the Entity to learn more about the team through Benji's answers.
>2) Same as above, but with the fake key. Where did it even come from?
Everyone was after the key. Fakes were bound to appear.
>3) What was Grace's plan when she 'put-pocketed' the key on the guy on the plane? Just assume that he'd want top meet up after?
Basically. The movie implies she does that a lot and it always works.
>4) What was Grace's plan when she ran away in Venice? Sell the key to somebody else? to who?
She knew there were a lot of people who would pay for it by then.
>5) How did Ethan know kKttridge would even be on the train?
He didn't know it would be Kittridge specifically, but it was a fair guess as Kittridge was pretty clearly after the key and already had an in with the White Widow.
>6) Why is there no physicality in this movie? The fights suck and Tom doesn't do any physical stunts in this movie compared to Fallout where he jumped onto the side of a building, jumped out of a window, and fell 30 feet onto a helicopter's cargo.
The fights were fine, and Tom is getting old.
>7) The AI villain is beyond moronic and makes zero sense if you think about it for longer than half a second.
It was fine.
Cinemaphile forgot how to watch movies.
>>7) The AI villain is beyond moronic and makes zero sense if you think about it for longer than half a second.
>It was fine.
>The fights were fine, and Tom is getting old.
Great rebuttals. Might as well go with "nah"
Both are opinatives. I have a different opinion. Cope.
A shit opinion based on you adoration of a 60 year old man, yes.
Ad hominens so soon, anon?
Your resetera arguments don't work here
Fascinating that you tried to give arguments for 5 of the 7 questions and yet reverted to opinions for the final two. Almost like you had nothing to say about the fact that the AI sucks and Cruise can't really do physical action anymore
5 of the 7 questions are plot-related and explained in the movie. Cruise not having good fight scenes or the very concept of the villain are not, they are opinions. Nothing I can say will change that anon's opinion on these matters.
As the guy who wrote the list of problems with the movie, I can confirm that you are a shill and most likely a closeted homosexual with a fascination for a 60+ year old man. May the AI god of this thread bless me with digits to confirm the truth.
>Fascination for a 60+ year old man
Does that apply to Indy 5?
Its gonna make a billion dollars, Disney shill!
Enjoy your Aids.
“Nah” is a perfect answer to your moronic points.
Nah nah nah nah nah naah, you can't respond lololololol
Here’s a response: take a bath, hippie!!
BBRRRRAAAAPPPPPFRFFTFTF
Breathe in that scent and get a real job
i just watched it.i still do not undersatnd what themain villain and his asian sidekick are, or why he betrays her, or anyhting, makes zero sense
>asian sidekick
Holy frick, the more I think about and talk about this movie, the less it makes sense. Who the frick was she? Just some rando working for him? WHY?! She serves no purpose other than to give Ethan the submarine location.
>Villains have henchmen?
>AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH I'M GOING INSAAAAAAAAAAAAAANEEEEEEEEEEEE
>Hench(wo)man serves no purpose to the plot other than tummy sex appeal and is completely unnecessary when the main villain is already a henchman to an all-knowing god.
Yes, i am going insane
She pushes her crotch right up to Ethan's face.
>Its fine
The moronic AI villian is the worst part you fricking NPC
The AI is just the second Macguffin (the Keys being the first). The Real Villain was Danny Pino.
Is it supposed to be some sort of postmodern message to the viewer? Movie was probably written by an AI, it's all cynical as frick implying nothing you do matters because the AI will predict everything. Whatever it was, I hated it. You never even see the damn villain, just its goon. At least give it a voice and face like in other man vs machine movies.
>it's all cynical as frick implying nothing you do matters because the AI will predict everything.
Are you seriously moronic enough not to understand it CAN'T predict everything and that's why it's sperging about securing the key?
Honestly who gives a frick about the villain when its a damn computer software
Just turn it the frick off
>>1) What was with the bomb? Why was this never explained? What purpose did it serve?
>In the airport? It was a distraction so Grace would escape with the key and also a way for the Entity to learn more about the team through Benji's answers.
I thought also to train on Benji's voice.
>>2) Same as above, but with the fake key. Where did it even come from?
>Everyone was after the key. Fakes were bound to appear.
She had the fake key made so that she could give it to someone (and keep the real key) if she got caught
>>3) What was Grace's plan when she 'put-pocketed' the key on the guy on the plane? Just assume that he'd want top meet up after?
>Basically. The movie implies she does that a lot and it always works.
They explain this in the movie. She targeted a middle aged man specifically because he would be flattered that she was interested in him and would meet him anywhere. She had his contact info as well so could track him.
>>4) What was Grace's plan when she ran away in Venice? Sell the key to somebody else? to who?
>She knew there were a lot of people who would pay for it by then.
>>5) How did Ethan know kKttridge would even be on the train?
>He didn't know it would be Kittridge specifically, but it was a fair guess as Kittridge was pretty clearly after the key and already had an in with the White Widow.
He didn't know and didn't care. He was after Gabriel and the key and thwart whomever the buyer was
>>6) Why is there no physicality in this movie? The fights suck and Tom doesn't do any physical stunts in this movie
Tom himself jumped a motorcycle over a fricking cliff
>>7) The AI villain is beyond moronic and makes zero sense if you think about it for longer than half a second.
It makes total sense. The AI was created by US intel and placed on the sub, went rogue, now everyone looking for original source code.
>now everyone looking for original source code.
Yeah and somehow the country that created the AI in the first place somehow does not have said source code. Right.
Said AI is apparently so advanced it can magically keep summoning coal into a steam engine after its gay patsy kills the two old geezers.
Also the Russians didn't really mind losing their super advanced sub with the magic stealth AI thingy.
But don't worry, Luther will analyze the bits on his HDD while going offline and he's going to find the machine god.
>Yeah and somehow the country that created the AI in the first place somehow does not have said source code. Right.
The US created the source code and put it on the sub. The sub was the first time it went rogue so they want to analyze that version.
>Said AI is apparently so advanced it can magically keep summoning coal into a steam engine after its gay patsy kills the two old geezers.
Yeah good point 🙂
>Also the Russians didn't really mind losing their super advanced sub with the magic stealth AI thingy.
True. That was unexplained, and also unexplained was how the keys were lost to begin with.
>But don't worry, Luther will analyze the bits on his HDD while going offline and he's going to find the machine god.
Yeah
The writing wouldn't matter if it simply bridged the gap between Cruisekino stunt sequences and didn't bore you. But there's only one cool stunt the whole movie, and the CGI slop doesn't count. All I want is cool action and I got a 3 hour snoozefest. They could have EASILY cut a full hour out and they didn't. I saw M:I 1 yesterday in preparation and it's a way better movie. Not even a fan edit or director's cut could save this bloated mess.
Looked up a few videos/interviews. Apparently, they go into shooting with barely any script, or no script at all. Maybe it works sometimes, but it clearly didn't here.
Why is there a discord troony campaign against this movie? Is Cruise a chud because there's no woke bullshit in his movies?
I would imagine a lot of it has to do with breaking it up into two parts, there's probably a good single movie's worth of material between the two.
Blame 2020. For the quality issues ofc
Why is it two parts anyway? Are they Cruise’s last movies?
Was going to see this tonight until I saw the runtime. Didn’t feel like sitting in a theater for three hours.
Why didn't anyone shoot each other? Ilsa could have shot Gabriel. Paris could have shot Ethan. Ethan could have shot Gabriel.
>Why didn't anyone shoot each other? Ilsa could have shot Gabriel. Paris could have shot Ethan. Ethan could have shot Gabriel.
I did think that and consider it a plot hole
The movie suffers from too many fricking twists. I get that they’re basically fighting with God in this one but it gets absurd how much convient shit happens. Like someone is pickpocketing someone every 2 mins and stealing something important. And the entity gets control of everything the second it is needed, and some things it doesn’t control. Like the entity could have killed that guy for the last 30 minutes when he put his car on autopilot but no it does fricking nothing. And when their mask machine broke down that was frickin moronic.
The action was excellent. Better than fallout I’d say. The movie is non stop action. But the story is way behind fallout.
>And when their mask machine broke down that was frickin moronic.
Wait they seriously reused that plot point from the last movie?
>Like the entity could have killed that guy for the last 30 minutes when he put his car on autopilot but no it does fricking nothing
That part was so bizarre to me. The whole movie they talk about how nothing in the digital world is safe but then they randomly decide to have a self driving car which is a machine making decisions for you but it doesn't have any significance at all.
Could have been easily remedied with Luther driving
It's quite obvious the entity isn't real. Gabriel doesn't do anything that Benji and Luther couldn't do
They did that to show that Benji and the team doesn't care about following the entity's path, because the entity already took all possibilities into consideration.
Come on guys, don't act like brainlets i know you're better than that.
Why did Grace go to Rome? Was that her plan all along? Did she just hop on the first departing plane she saw? How does that even work? Surely, she had a ticket, right? Wasn't she supposed to go to Venice?
Pls, somebody expleen
>Why did Grace go to Rome? Was that her plan all along? Did she just hop on the first departing plane she saw? How does that even work? Surely, she had a ticket, right? Wasn't she supposed to go to Venice?
She was hired by the blonde arms dealer lady to meet her in Rome. That's who the buyer of the key was, meeting at the gala in Rome
>gala in Rome
That was in Venice, right?
Yeah
Just saw it, very enjoyable kino and I’m excited for the next one. Only critiques I have:
>too heavy on humor during the car chase
>simon pegg, after having his comms compromised by the AI on a previous mission, uses comms again and even trusts a fricking self driving car
There's a scene where Ving Rhames gives analogical comms, but there's no fricking excuse for trusting a self-driving car. I was honestly surprised they didn't have the A.I. take it over.
>I was honestly surprised they didn't have the A.I. take it over
Pretty much confirms my thoughts about the Entity not being an evil AI
This movie series has a hard on for twists. So next movie it will probably be revealed that the entity is trying to help humanity the whole time and it has been playing 4D chess this whole time to help Tom acheive his goal while making itself look like it was trying to stop him because blah blah blah
Well, i don't think the Entity is Le good either. To give an example: The entity is like a gun and doing good or bad things depends on the person who gets to control it. The movie is very vague about a lot of things tho. Ghost Protocol is still the Best MI movie.
>but there's no fricking excuse for trusting a self-driving car. I was honestly surprised they didn't have the A.I. take it over.
That's why he thinks for a minute and puts his seat belt on. The Entity is powerful but not omnipresent.
>too heavy on humor during the car chase
Man it felt like I was watching Mr. Bean or something. I know these aren't super dark serious action movies or anything but I was completely taken out. At least all the women screeching and laughing in the crowd liked it I guess
Relied way too much on the MacGuffin, it's like they thought their audience got dumber after the last few movies and could only follow along if it was a simple get the key plot
Agreed. Kind of dissapointed we have to wait a year for the real story to start. Its better than if the “get the key” plot spanned both movies. That would suck so hard.
I've liked about half of the Mission Impossible movies. This was better than Rogue Nation, but still surprisingly bad considering the reviews and hype behind it. The dialogue and story are fricking mind-bogglingly stupid and awful. At least they finally killed off the charisma vacuum British woman that ruined the previous two MI movies. I'm thinking the success of Top Gun Maverick was not Tom Cruise's sole doing because whatever he did here did not work.
The British woman is so horrible I forgot her name, her characters name. Everything. Just such a horrible soulless tryhard actress and I’m glad she is gone.
I think the director made Maverick good. Christopher McQuarrie is probably so burnt out on trying to top his action, alongside the shitshow that was covid during filming.
It's just one action sequence after another and the only theme is AI BAD!
Who writes this shit?
If the AI could hack into every security system in the world and sattelites and shit, why didn't it just go full Skynet to kill Ethan and the gang
My favorite scene was when the zoomer fortnite k-tana action girl was killed but then BOOM she shows up out of the blue and BANG saves the whole day because HE SPARED HER LIFE AWOOOOO but then she immediately died for real sad times for real
I like how she gunned down a bunch of Italian cops and American agents in broad daylight then conspired to murder an entire passenger train full of people but still gets to have a totally adorable heroic death.
She is literally not dead, she is gonna show up again in part 2, they bothered to put in a "ive got a pulse!" little thing so that we know that.
The last good MI film was Ghost Protocol, and it was easily the best in the series besides the first one. This was yet another new low in how dumb these movies have gotten. The plot and dialogue here are basically indistinguishable from the Fast and the Furious franchise at this point. Ethan and his sidekicks practically start monologuing about family multiple times even. Cruise has lost the plot here, and nobody involved in the writing has seemingly even used a computer for a moment in their life, let alone any understanding of AI technology.
Gabriel literally boiled down to 'all part of my keikaku' as the villian
There is no AI. Gabriel is the anti-Ethan. The real AI is in the submarine.
Pretty much all mission impossible movies are some combination of
>Nukes
>Chemical weapons
>Technology that can end the world
and the villain is almost always either a former IMF agent or an agent of some other government's spook ranks. They're all the same movie.
>They're all the same movie
I got this feeling very strongly during the car chase in Rome. We've had at least 2 other identical car chases in Rome in this series already. I was bored of that segment almost immediately.
When people watch Fallout or Dead Reckoning and claim they're the greatest action movies ever made I assume that 1) they don't watch many action movies and 2) they haven't even seen all the other Mission Impossible movies because they're fun but ultimately they follow the exact same formula every time.
How many times has Ethan been betrayed and framed? How many times has his wife been put in peril? How many seconds has he been one second away from not being able to hit the button that magically stops the nukes? How many times have former IMF agents went rogue and wanted to end the world?
3
1
1
Forgot wife: 3
The only good Cruise kino
Truth. Easily his best movie and performance.
Seeing Grace's tight ass in those slacks during the train part was well worth the admission price 🙂
Based fellow coomer. I also enjoyed those scenes very much 🙂
>Gets top billing and her own poster despite having 10 seconds of screentime
Something tells me flashbacks of pre-IMF Ethan, Gabriel and her will be a big part of Part 2. I wonder if Cruise will resort to de-aging to pull it off.
That or they cut 10 minutes out of the movie.
All jokes aside this movie is really bad in such a way that the more you think about it the worse it gets. It feels like the MI version of padme's assassination attempt.
You are trying too hard.
Who's Padme
I liked these guys, how they constantly ate shit, and how That Guy From That Movie kept trying to unmask people.
Would watch the buddy cop spinoff.
>I liked these guys, how they constantly ate shit, and how That Guy From That Movie kept trying to unmask people.
>Would watch the buddy cop spinoff.
I liked them too, but it felt too on YOUR FACE.
This is Paramount basically yelling at you "SEE? THE FRANCHISE CAN CONTINUE WHEN TOM GOES AWAY!!!"
>74 KB
> I liked these guys, how they constantly ate shit, and how That Guy From That Movie kept trying to unmask people.
Yeah that was hilarious
I was entertained, which is more than I can say about Rogue Nation and Fallout, but God damn it has the worst exposition and writing I've seen in a while. The story is moronic. Cruise must be one of those boomers who still can't figure out how to open YouTube on his smart TV after already being told by his kids a dozen times. The level of understanding of computers and AI is Law and Order SVU tier.
I enjoyed it a lot, I don't know what people expect from these movies other than fun action set pieces and cheeky espionage shit
A movie that makes logical sense like the last three would be nice
I understood the plot as it was presented throughout the majority of the movie.
>self learning stealth tech ai self learns into skynet.
>ai sinks the sub carrying its source code chip
>everyone hunts for the key to unlock the chip
But then after the us govt twist exposition monologue i was lost.
>the AI and sub stealth tech are separate?
>But the sub tech has ai source code still?
>the AI is US govt made?
Yeah, that's about where they lost me too.
>American government creates A.I. for digital warfare.
>Tests it by uploading it into Russian stealth submarine so it can disable the cloaking device.
>A.I. immediately becomes self-aware, sinks the sub instead, and escapes into the internet, where it infects all major intelligence networks and defense systems.
>Sunken submarine's computer core still contain a copy of its beta version, which can be used to eithe control or destroy self-aware A.I.
>The core is opened by the key, which is stolen from the bodies of the dead sailors and sold on the black market.
>A.I. recruits latino George Clooney to retrieve the key and ensure no government can control it.
Thank you, that fills in the gaps of my confusion
Why can't you just force open the AI case with a crowbar, it's literally a fragile little dumb key.
Peace be to these keen anons
The AI's core is inside the submarine. It can visit the outside world via internet, trolls a bit, but always retreats to its Cinemaphile mancave, all comfy at the bottom of the ocean.
The AI has no core, but the submarine was where it became self-aware when it merged/absorbed the russian computer so some trace of its code may remain inside. It's why it tried to destroy the submarine in the first scene, to remove all possible traces of it.
It didn't want to destroy itself, it literally just decided it wanted to blow up the submarine because it chose that as it's mission objective instead. The AI is an idiot.
Isn't the Code basically inside the Event Horizon looking core?
Should I see this in IMAX, or Dolby?
I saw it in Dolby. The ass-vibrating seats were awesome.
My IMAX didn't even open the screen up
When Benji was in the self-driving car I was expecting the AI to take over. If they consider the technology they use as analog, that's such bullshit.
>When Benji was in the self-driving car I was expecting the AI to take over.
I honestly was expecting that too. Unless the car was connected to his laptop and said laptop was not connected to the internet.
It honestly trips me out they imply that even Benji was a criminal who got into the IMF through "the choice".
I can buy Ethan, Luther, even the folks from the previous films like Jeremy Renner and Paula Patton, but this dude?
Real talk. What was Benji's talent? I remember him being a technician. Unless he's basically Luther's support.
He's a technical field agent. Basically, he is Ethan's support and gadget guy in the frontlines while Luther stays in the van working the computer.
Ah gotcha, thanks for the clarification. I remember him in 5 playing Halo tho.
He jumps into action when needed and drives his van or boat to conveniently show up just so the plot can advance in the nick of time.
He does a lot of tech stuff too so he was probably like a pedo cyber terrorist or some shit
I pirated the movie and I couldn't even bother to finish it.
Everything just feels so convoluted and lifeless that I stopped caring.
AI as the big bad is fricking cringe
It's crazy that this movie and the last few Bond films from Skyfall onward just blend into this generic slop with le mysterious omniscient villain who just happens to have a deep connection to the main hero and it just feels like watching the same thing over and over.
Extraction 1 and 2 keeping it really simple where you just have 1 location, 1 objective and a lot of times not world ending threats like some older Bond films or Casino Royale are a lot better to me. Makes the action feel more grounded when the stakes aren't super high.
I need to watch those movie. I miss simple kino
>It's crazy that this movie and the last few Bond films from Skyfall onward just blend into this generic slop with le mysterious omniscient villain who just happens to have a deep connection to the main hero and it just feels like watching the same thing over and over.
That's exactly what I was thinking as well while watching this borefest, its just Spectre all over again
Instead of drones, its super ebil AI with its henchmen
I'd kill for the next Bond to just take place in 1 country for at least 90 minutes to 2 hours as he just infiltrates a mob or counterfeiter or something basic with a villain with good charisma. It would automatically feel different from these doomsday movies.
Hopefully we get that with Caville as James Bond
>Le Chiffre is so good as a villain the role boosts Mads Mikkelsen into having a Hollywood career when all he was doing was banking and winning at cards
>gets killed by le epic secret society world enders who no one remembers or cares about
Much like how Pom's assassin and even the two FBI guys were more fun antagonists than Gabriel
>Le Chiffre
How do you even eat that?
>Gabriel
They seriously couldn't have picked a worse man antagonist than this guy
I mean is this the face that screams terror to you??
>we have Benicio del Toro at home
I honestly thought it was the Hispanic detective from Law and Order SVU for most of the movie kek
Lmao. He wasn't a bad actor but he definitely has network tv show vibes. I really hope part 2 isn't so fricking goofy and weird. It was not nearly as good as Fallout
Same vibes
The antagonist is The Entity. Gabriel is just a tool chosen specifically to provoke rush decisions on Ethan, the only one that can/want to destroy it. It's spelled out almost verbatim during the Venetian Night Club scene.
Their first cast was picrel, dropped during the pandemic. Clearly they were going for angelic face (Gabriel, get it?) with cold demeanor
That's a real shame. Would've 99% sure altered the forced connection Gabrial and Ethan had, too. I don't like it when long series suddenly move to a timeline that is before even the first movie and name the person ''THE REALEST REAL BAD GUY FROM MY DARK AND UNKNOWN PAST''.
Frick this writer/director for doing that. It added nothing but shit.
>take place in 1 country for at least 90 minutes to 2 hours
John Woo done it right with M:I 2 set in one country
Licence To Kill Again
At least the writing in the last few Bond movies was good. These last 3 Mission Impossible movies are just incoherent garbage. The plot in this is beyond stupid.
Skyfall was the last good James Bond movie
I think you meant "The World is Not Enough".
I liked No Time to Die
Cringe
Extraction 2 has the best US action sequence since Fallout and probably in 15 years. Wick sucks.
Extraction 2 could have been a 9/10 if they made sure Act 3 topped Act 1, the anticlimactic closed barn finales is hurting action movies. Shit was as boring as Venom Carnage.
Cruise should be worried though because Hemsworth is now building a team.
Because they met when Cruise was up for Pitt's stuntman part, he should ask Tarantino to punch up DR2 or some shit.
>Two and a half hours
no
It was schizo kino with them basically telling normie audiences about all the shit that's out there in an easily digestible way. Cruise always plays an absolute fruitcup in all these movies. Remember when he met his old cruising buddy at a gas station during the party celebrating the marriage all the male agents are upset and hesitant about? homosexual shit.
Every scene was either two people talking at eachother, or an action scene that went on too long. The bike jump takes you out of the movie when you know it's just footage of Tom Cruise putting his dyanetics teachings to the test.
I wanted to frick every woman in this movie. The blonde b***h with the weird eyes (not the French chingchong) could GET IT.
Pegg was wasted. Number ratings are for homosexuals.
>I wanted to frick every woman in this movie.
I feel ya, bro.
Some stills of Part 2.
Kittridge with the Secretary of Defense played by Holt McCallany and a General played by Nick Offerman.
>then
than*
Janet McTeer as the new National Intelligence director since Cary Elwes got murked.
Rolf Saxon back as Donloe, the desk agent who got reassigned to Antarctica for failing to prevent Ethan from stealing the list in the first movie.
Do they really just pick the most literal who characters to bring back? The cast is already too fricking full
>donloe, we've got donloe here!
>see, nobody cares
also this movie isn't actually complete and may end up with debts like the flash if the strikes continue
Hannah Waddingham as a carrier commander.
I liked the movie
No PC agenda behind it, except boss Chinese lady
So the race politics, or lack thereof, of a movie determines its worth? Are you a israelite?
It was a good movie you fat lonely autistic Black person
I think I fell in love with Vanessa Kirby in this movie. It wasn't very good, but damn she's pretty.
>Vanessa Kirby
There's a fricking child in the kinoplex. You can imagine what he said when he saw that name during the opening scene.
Seconded. I'm happy she's about the land the Fantastic Four gig.
Another pet peeve I forgot to mention: they have the resources necessary to make masks that are the exact replicas of other people's faces, but nobody thought to give Grace a pair of blue contact lenses? And this lady's bodyguard didn't notice that her baby blues turned brown?
They counted on Zola being an idiot (he is)
Why is everyone so good at CQC Kong fu fighting in this movie?
Actions speak louder than words. You watched it twice.
>Only paid for it once
I ain't perxactly a techno wizard, but isnt every AI bound to a program? Like, Chat GPT or something can't function outside of its own program. It can't google shit. So how tf does this AI become 'rogue'? And how is it all knowing with how to hack everything and follow everyone?
Shut up goy, just go buy another ticket next weekend
>Like, Chat GPT or something can't function outside of its own program. It can't google shit.
It can now Google stuff. To be precise, it can now Bing stuff because Microsoft paid billions of dollars for a stake in ChatGPTs parent company.
They are adding abilities to it all the time such as letting it access other web services or to analyze files you give it access to. Not unreasonable for software to become more and more capable.
The idea of sandboxed programs is not necessarily true outside of things like iPhones and web browsers. As a malicious example some viruses can access and edit almost every file on your computer
>So how tf does this AI become 'rogue'?
It's Stuxnet but A.I.
Imagine if an imprisoned criminal was becoming craftier by the hour, what becomes his objective?
it wont work shills
Lol. This movie is smashing every box office records and will cross 1 billion mark easily. Watch the shills seethe lol.
Cruise and Gabriel fighting on top of the train made sense, but things became increasingly goofy once Nucky's brother and his agent friend showed up
The climax is alone worth watching MI 7
The train fight was the worst part. Two 60 year old men dancing on top of a prop with the worst CGI the series has ever had.
CGI? there's no CGI there homosexual. The only CGI in this movie is Cruise Going Insane.
Its a post-Covid blockbuster
Of course there's CGI in it, you double Black person
Yeah. CGI (Cruise Going Insane).
It's sad that you had to repeat the joke. The movie was bad though, in all seriousness.
This is what a strict diet of Marvel movies does to your brain. Sad!
Dude. It's CGI in the movie (Cruise Going Insane). What are you on about?
Cruise isn't insane at all. He's very sober minded and driven given that his goddamn networth is over half a billion dollars
Insane in a good way. His networth is most probably 750 million+. He will probably become a billionaire by this movie.
Crazy to think that in this film Tom Cruise is older than Jon Voight in the first Mission Impossible
He still has energy. A lot more than you homosexual. He has Big Dick Energy.
Its funny they never call attention to his age but its going to be impossible to ignore soon
>impossible
A-anon
Frick me.
it's because you need to watch it three times to fully understand it.
I can watch it infinite times. Movie is pure KINO. Lot better than any MCU or DC movies.
I loved it. Sure, it was cliche, but it was fun, easy to follow, and the action set pieces were amazing (although a bit too much at the end).
I have a few nitpicks (spoilers below).
>1.) If the supercomputer can control everything, have it send a drone to blow Ethan up.
2.) Why is Grace an important woman in Ethan's life? He just met her, and she left him on train tracks to die.
3.) What was the point of the fake-out death of the other love interest chick at the beginning? Nobody cared and then she died for real towards the end, which made it double weird. Also, why was she trying to use wrestling moves on a guy who has knives when she has a fricking sword?
4.) The cliche nemesis, who made Ethan what he is, is introduced in this movie despite never being spoken about before. He's a better villain than Henry Cavill in the last movie, but honestly, Pom Klementieff was better, and she barely spoke. She also had an annoying fake-out death.
I agree with most if not all of those, but the one thing that really put me off was this whole schtick that started with solomon lane where "if we do that, we're doing that because he expects us to exactly do that, but we're not going to do that because he's thought if every scenario and he knows we're not going to do that!"
Also, why did Grace make a big display of the second knife that she had, instead of shaking Gabriel with it by surprise? Why show him that you have second knife? Just stab him.
Because Grace is not as cunning as they all are, she's still green, fresh, naive.
They hammer the point many times, Grace is dead in hours if she gets out the IMF wings
You guys are acting like Pom Klementieff's character is for sure dead even though the black agent said that she still had a pulse. I don't think they put that in the movie for no reason.
One doesn't have to be cunning to take out a knife and shank somebody with it. A homeless person can do thar without making a big display showing that they have a knife.
>>1.) If the supercomputer can control everything, have it send a drone to blow Ethan up.
It doesn't have that power.
>2.) Why is Grace an important woman in Ethan's life? He just met her, and she left him on train tracks to die.
She asks him that in the movie, he says why would that matter, she tears up. His sense of honor is striking to her.
>3.) What was the point of the fake-out death of the other love interest chick at the beginning? Nobody cared and then she died for real towards the end, which made it double weird. Also, why was she trying to use wrestling moves on a guy who has knives when she has a fricking sword?
They have room for one woman, Haley Atwell. She had to die
>4.) The cliche nemesis, who made Ethan what he is, is introduced in this movie despite never being spoken about before. He's a better villain than Henry Cavill in the last movie, but honestly, Pom Klementieff was better, and she barely spoke. She also had an annoying fake-out death.
>It doesn't have that power.
Why not? It can hijack a satellite. It can hijack a laptop. It's a near-sentient being, so why are you saying that hijacking a drone is a step too far?
>Why not? It can hijack a satellite. It can hijack a laptop. It's a near-sentient being, so why are you saying that hijacking a drone is a step too far?
I hear ya it was hit or miss. Maybe hacking a laptop easier than a drone?
This movie is the pinnacle of action movies. Never seen a perfect movie than this.
Just came back from this. Is it just me or were the shots from the big jump kind of shitty?
Also it lacked the spark of previous films because of the shitty villain, white hair dude wasnt kino like Philip Seymour Hoffman or Cavill, it was just some old dude who wasnt even menacing.
You are the only one.
The mountain jump is the moneyshot.
The BTS footage looked way more interesting than how they cut it. It was extremely underwhelming and then ends with CGI Cruise busting in through the window. I just hope the next one is better because this shit was goofy
Where did he land? I'm yet to watch it and I'm interested in it.
Irl? I mean he obviously landed by himself on the ground somewhere after jumping off a fricking mountain. Would love to see more bts of it.
Wait? That's it?
What do you mean that's it. He drove a bike off a mountaintop and then landed safely.
There's no action part after it? Like no villain to chase after? Who the frick wrote this shit?
Am I speaking to a frickin moron?
Who the frick wrote this shit?
You.
The coolest part of the stunt couldn't even be put in the movie cause he's supposed to land on a train. Kind of an odd stunt you get no actual payoff. Like anyone could drive a bike off a ramp and then let go of the bike lol
>because of the shitty villain, white hair dude wasnt kino
Again, he's not the big bad, he is the guy chosen by the AI "The Entity" to do its bidding in the meat space. It's not explained well in the first film. He is intentionally not menacing and a cypher personality, because The Entity needs a charmer not a demigod tyrant.
Atwell is a 10/10 Goddess, will watch for she.
Im sure its worse than Fallout and GP though
Yep. She's hot.
This is the best mission impossible no doubt.
Definitely my least favorite since 4 but still heads above any other action movie out there
why do they sneak the "part one" in there and never mention it during marketing?
for me, it's Pom
She was giving me Harley Quinn vibes in that scene, and Hayley Atwell was giving me Catwoman vibes with the thief shit.
yeah but look at the 2 blonde chicks in this movie MY DICK
I thought it was pretty good actually. Ilsa wasn't useless that role is just being transitioned to Haley Atwell for the next few movies.
How could the first 20 minutes be cut? It's the entire motivation for the movie!
They literally explain the plot every 30 minutes, it was very easy to follow for a small child.
>The first time I watched it, I thought it was decent, but now I realize that it sucks
That is how all "blockbuster" films (and games, for that matter) are tailored nowadays: As bewildering boom, crash operas that, if viewed more than once, are revealed to be projectile diarrhoea spewed to screen.
Any idea why Gabriel absolutely had to board the train in a coffin, wearing a cyber scuba helmet? Was he having a private chat with the Entity? Do they regularly have to facetime so it can aware him of the plot?
And then of course he just casually trots along the carriages all the way up to the engine.
they will reveal in part 2 that he is a cyborg
Would explain how he survived just falling off a train running at 100 kph.
You mean 48 mph? You live in a third world shithole lol.
>mph instead of kph on the Orient Express
>100 kph is somehow 48mph
>calls others thirld worlders
How's the commuter train in Uttar Pradesh?
Ill reserve judgement until part 2 is out.
Even the big action scene they teased was dumb because they covered everything in CGI. It looked like a PlayStation game.
Just saw this at the movies. I loved it. Reminded me of being a kid watching mi back in the day. Thought it was based to make Hayley Atwell a shit woman driver kek
So I ain't watching this shit. Then it's Oppenheimer left and I think it will suck too which means I won't have any movie to watch at the cinema this summer..... I miss watching good movies at the cinema bros.
>Ethan there's a suspicious bag at your location
>nvm it's not suspicious
>Wait... could that bag have really been suspicious after all?
>Benji go check the bag
>ZOMG A BOMB
>nvm it's not a bomb
why was there so much pointless shit like this?
it was a way for the entity to buy time with distractions so its operatives could have a greater probability to reach their objectives. also a way to show the humanity of the good guys, willing to give their own lives to save the many. another example of the needs of the many. and just a fun gimmick to keep the audience entertained.
>zomg it's a psychobabble test in a Da Vinci Code tube
>the virtual god who knows everything about everyone wants to know our secrets
>Benji's darkest, deepest secret is revealed
>...
>as a shocking twist it turns out that the guy who can't afford having a regular life really likes his friends
Bravo Tom
lel at the pickpocketing scenes
crews just finished putting rome back together after toretto and his bullshit rolled through and then hunt has to come by and wreck it all again. shheeeeesh
MI:3 is great you tasteless pleb
>movie in two parts in a franchise people barely care about
keep yapping homosexual
ive got tickets to see it with my dad
can't bruise the cruise
Should I watch Top Gun Maverick?
If you’re not a commie, yes
I had fun with it, but yeah some of the exposition felt a bit overhanded.
All I've reading about this movie is how it stole it's plot from the TV series "Person of Interest"