I kinda like Sun Spider more than I like most of the other spider variants.
She feels like she could exist alongside Peter and Venom without a multiverse, and without stepping on anyone’s toes
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Cripple Spider-man is fricking stupid. Who the frick is so vain that even a power fantasy has to reflect their defective bodies as opposed to having working legs in the fantasy? Do the people of this Spider-man's city look up in amazement and barely repressed laughter at this guy's limp and atrophied legs as he swings between sky scrappers?
she's kind of a b***h and unlikeable and mega stupid
>Doc Ock makes working legs for her
>she berates him and basically denotes him as an incel and an butthole for being helpful and trying to benefit her life since he likes her
>after fighting doc ock she berates her friends for not "coming to her aid" when she ran off on her own
>is gay because its 2023
>legs would be constantly flopping and flying around while she swings due to her disability
>name is based off of the childrens book
>berates her friends for helping her up the stairs
>berates school faculty for not helping her (even though they literally couldn't because she ran off to go super hero)
That's not even getting into how stupid the crutches are
True, she's mechanically different enough to be a separate character, and the civilian side of the disability also offers storytelling potential Peter doesn't have
Yeah she can fill every other panel with b***hing about stairs, real great storytelling potential there dumbass.
Or alternatively you could reawaken some of Peter Parker’s Ditko era personality, and have his and Charlotte’s conversations consist entirely of insulting each other
Or alternatively just kill off every fricking Spider-verse character that isn't Peter Parker. I've never seen a concept that was so proudly banal as having all these different Spider-people, all proud of how unique they supposedly are, and all riding on the OG Spider-man's coattails. None of these characters would have any staying power if they weren't latched onto Peter like a parasite.
I feel like the only Spiderverse characters who don’t need to latch on to Peter to survive are Miguel, Web Slinger, Lady Spider, Supaidaman, Patton, Peni, Noir, Silk, and potentially Sun Spider given some development
Each is an interesting idea on their own, though the rest rely on Peter for relevance
They all latch onto Peter to survive given that they're all derivatives of Spider-man aka Peter Parker. Noir actually IS Peter, Silk was bitten by the same spider as Pete and was kept in a sex dungeon, and Miguel drank Peter's goo for some gene therapy cure.
I think what anon is trying to say is that you could write them out of Spider-Man, give them their own costumes and names, and they would still work as standalone characters without anyone accusing them of being Spider-Man ripoffs.
Peter can just disappear to change into Spider-Man whenever a dangerous situation arises, Charlotte is limited and can't just ditch the wheelchair and pretend she was off getting bagels, and has to put even more of an act of being more helpless than she really is, it would force writers to get more creative about her civilian/vigilante split (though realistically most modern writers would probably just skip over that).
So she's just a shittier Daredevil?
>the civilian side of the disability also offers storytelling potential Peter doesn't have
>Oh no, the villain is attacking and I cannot run away for I am a strong disabled woman. If only I were a straight cis white guy, I could run away like a wimp and change into my costume!
>can't just disappear to pummel the villain while costumed
>has to think on the spot and come up with alternate ways of handling them
>Villain attacks
>Wonders why the frick the cripple chick won't run away unlike everyone else
>takes the cripple chick hostage since she’s easier to carry
>Spider-Man shows up and saves her
>saved girl looks at him with wonder
>later same girl decides to investigate lab and ends up bitten by a spider
>she could exist alongside Peter and Venom without a multiverse, and without stepping on anyone’s toes
You'd be wrong.
Yeah she'd roll over everyone's toes in her wheel chair.
I refuse to believe the lies of the serpent
Isn't the serpent/satan 616?
That's why Moore gave that identifier to Marvel's main universe?
This was moronic, a Doc Ock type of tentacle walking would be much better
Same artist actually made this
That's a lot better
He also made this. I think he ships Charlie and her Otto
who's the artist?
Dunno, long time guy though
I think his name is Meta
Looks as moronic as the comic version
But…
it's so funny that women get bothered when people ask them if they need help
meanwhile if you're a man nobody will ever ask you if you need help even when you clearly do
>huh she has crutches, that's a clear weakness to exploit
>oh and her webs come from that, two for one special when they get snapped in half
>now she can't web swing nor can she walk
>she is totally helpless
At least Daredevil doesn't advertise that he's blind
his costume doesn't have eye holes
It's not obvious though, he still has eye slots they're just completely opaque, but a normal person isn't gonna notice that or realise he's blind (or just doesn't need to see) immediately like they would with the two big crutches that she walks and swings around with
Probably why she uses the chair in spiderverse
There should be a max of 3 spider-people at any given time including Peter. You can have them all the spider-people in one universe but just not concurrently, separate them by eras. So ideally you would start with solo Peter, Ben and Kaine get a turn alongside him for like two years for clone saga then frick off. More solo Peter. Peter is incapacitated by green goblin so Cindy and Miles can step up in his absence. Peter returns in like two years with daughters Annie may and Mayday so Cindy and Miles do their own thing. The daughters start to focus on their own lives instead of the family business so you can squeeze in Anya and Charlotte. And hell 2099 could take place with Miguel and his sidekick Peni just don't overextend with like picrel.
The only time Jess was good was as a Wolverine side character and the only time Julia was good was when she was a West Coast Avenger/Force Works member.
The rest in that picture have literally never been good and should be erased
You know, I kind of share this similar attitude, though a bit more loosely in a Spider-Man au I made
Basically in the au, Peter is the main Spider-Man, Charlotte is a person who he accidentally led to the lab, Gwen absolutely hates him and is actively hunting Spider-Man down, and Anya is a mysterious vigilante in a motorcycle helmet who nobody’s sure if she’s a spider or not
Beyond that the only other spider people are the weird knock offs that Oscorp and Kingpin are trying to create, and Cindy who’s trying to live a normal non-superhero life despite the anxiety of having a spider sense
That's a lot of people standing on Pete's shoulders.
With great power comes great disability!
Great summary of the X-Men
I just like the idea of her being sexually bullied by hot female versions of all Peter’s villains.
Who do you think bullies her the most? Screwball?
>without stepping on anyone’s toes
Everyone missed the joke so far, but I didn't. That's pretty funny
Thank you, I was waiting for that
I think a disabled Spider-Person would work well in an Oracle style role. They're the computer geek on the other end of the earpiece giving Peter (and Miles, I guess) information and advice. But then their lair of operation is absolutely full of webbing, and anyone who breaks in gets easily trapped and taken down. Sort of a take on trap spiders, like the Funnel Web.
I like to imagine it’s a mix between Oracle and a walking tank. Where she’s best defended in her lair, but can cause trouble outside it as well
What a terrible idea
Get a better waifu. She's a flat chested, bitter dyke. Literally nothing appealing about her
Read her book and I didn't like her at all, are disabled people as entitled and jerks as she was?
ITSV Sun Spider was cool tho
Why not make her a robotics/prosthetics student under Doc Ock? Hell, make Doc Ock an amputee as well. Then you can still have the angst over the spider not healing her legs, but it's balanced out by cool fricking robot spider legs.