>I know, I'll take all my power and put it in an easily loseable ring, then I'll wear that ring so I can be at my full power!
>I'm such a genius!
Is he moronic?
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>I know, I'll take all my power and put it in an easily loseable ring, then I'll wear that ring so I can be at my full power!
The books explain this.
Magic was slowly leaving Arda and, like the Elves, Sauron was doomed to fade. He created the rings of power both as a last-ditch effort to preserve his power, and to dominate the other rings and thus races.
This is why Lothlorien fades away after The War of the Rings; it was basically a time capsule of a second-age forest that Galadriel with her ring was maintaining.
could've made it an earring since it'd be under the helmet instead of an unarmored hand. or a tongue piercing
Also in the books, Elendil and Gil-Galad had basically killed Sauron and Isidur just finished him off and cut the ring off. He would have gotten the earring too.
Morgoth marring Arda early in its creation.
Yeah fair. I like the books a lot, not sure why I'm defending Jackson if he failed at adapting them.
>one buttplug to rule them all
>DA BOOKS
irrelevant, You should not have to read a book to understand a movie, If you want to talk about books go to lit
It’s explained in the first 2 minutes of the kino as well though. He made the rings to control the other races and his ring is the one that gives him the ability to control everyone. It also makes him stronger and shit.
Better to risk death then look like some Black person cattle orc with a bone in your nose
>gives him the ability to control everyone.
>everyone declares war on him anyway
huh?
He couldn't control anyone though. The Elves were still completely against him. The Dwarves didn't do any of his bidding and just kept diggin their mines. And with the humans it just controlled nine withered old dudes who couldn't even handle catching hobbits or a single Elf. As a Lord of the Rings, Sauron was a complete failure.
tell that to Hackson then
you're not talking about understanding the movie, you're talking about a plothole
>why is le ring small and loseable lol in this movie made for children
you're a fricking moron kys
>maintaining
more like marinating with her vegana juices amirite?
But what was his tax policy?
He slashed taxes for the rich and raised them on the poor and middle class.
That's what the orcs get for electing him over his competition, Sauronman.
It began with the writing of the Great Tax Policies. 3% was taxed from the Elves, immortal, wisest and fairest of all beings. 7% from the Dwarf lords, great miners and craftsmen of the mountain halls. And 9, 9% was taxed from the race of men, who, above all else, desire power. But they were, all of them, deceived, for another tax policy was made. In the land of Mordor, in the fires of Mount Doom, the Dark Lord Sauron forged in secret a master tax policy, to control all others. And into this tax policy he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life. One Tax Policy to rule them all.
Why was GRRM so fat?
The book also explains this in saying he didn't die from losing the ring.
He was defeated in battle and the ring was cut from his corpse
Only 2 people went to war with him, and it cost them everything
>and the ring was cut from his corpse
Did he even leave a corpse?
Wasn't the whole thing with Numenor drowning, Sauron cackling away as the waves consumed him, that his physical form was destroyed and from then on he was just a condensed spirit?
I don't remember hearing about them burying his blackass or burning it.
>to preserve his power
So even after all the elves and magical creatures are gone, all magical artifacts should still be around?
It's been a while since I read about it but the effect was something about binding his essence to Arda.
Most magic artifacts would fade, but through the rings Sauron had bound himself to Arda so he wouldn't. This is part of why he had to put a suicidal amount of his power into it.
"Morgoth's Ring" discusses how Arda itself serves this for Melkor, since at his peak he put so much of himself into corrupting it from its very inception.
sauron's man... hmm ill name him saruman. yes! that'll do it! ermmm... time for crumpets and tea!!! LOL!!! wtf is tolkiens freaking problem dude...
>Treebeard
>is literally a tree with a beard
Bravo, Tolkien.
>TREE?! I am no tree! And I have no beard! - said Treebeard who had recently shaved
Treebeard was a chudcel who committed eco-terrorism because he couldn't get an entwife gf. Saruman dindu nuffin.
I loved the scene where the Democratic Socialists of Rohan criticized King Theoden for killing Saruman when he was trying to build paths through the forest for the differently abled.
I was so offended when Theoden Horsemaster assumed the gender of Grima Wormtongue, right before he was needlessly killed by a racist elf.
>TREE!? I am no tree.
>Okay, cool, what's your name?
>Treebeard.
English people just named people what they did or how the looked. You had Bob the fat or John the smith
Yeah. Think of the languages where the name of the animal is just the onomatopoeia of its cry. Always makes me laugh.
>what's this thing?
>*mraow
>it's a Mau
where the frick does "cat" even come from?
Shitpost aside, I don't think Ents are supposed to look like trees nearly as much as they were in Jackson's films.
You jest, but Theoden trusting a guy named "Grima Wormtongue" is fricking moronic.
You wouldn't take Grimy Dodgylips as your advisor?
>Magic was slowly leaving Arda
Why?
>because... IT JUST IS, OK????
No, seriously. Tolkien is a fricking hack. GRRM would give an involved and deep explanation as to why, Tolkien just says "dude God did it lmao" and expects you to roll with it
Why does everything in a fantasy setting need to be explained in painstaking detail? Please kindly do the needful and frick off back to tv tropes.
god and the archangels stopped singing
Middle-Earth is earth in the past. Magic left Arda because there is no magic today.
I'm assuming that when the world was created magic was everywhere and then overtime it slowly fades. Elder Scrolls universe does the same iirc
The taxes were too high.
>Most powerful weapon in all of middle earth
>Turns you invisible and makes it hard for you to see clearly
Externalizing the power makes it even greater, like divinely so and it makes you immortal as long as the object exists. There’s one other being in Tolkien lore who did something similar but people are too fricking dumb to understand what it was or who it was in general.
>but people are too fricking dumb to understand what it was or who it was in general.
Yeah but you’re so special and smart. You got it all figured out don’t you, professor chudcellington
Doesn’t take a genius you hollow skulled Black person. It’s a testament to how inconceivably fricking moronic you homosexuals are. Go ahead and gather yourself and then come up with a response you terminally online loser.
>it makes you immortal as long as the object exists.
My guy, Sauron was already immortal as frick.
>My God... if Sauron gets his ring back we will all be doomed. The last time he was at full power it took one (1) entire human to stop him! We can't let it fall into his hands again!
>it took one (1) entire human to destroy his army
I don't know why they wasted Rohan's time calling for backup at Pelennor Fields.
Night king lasted longer than Sauron.
Sauron was felled by Elendil and Gil-Galad.
Still finding little "plot holes" to invent and nitpick all these years later.... What nerds you Rings fanboys are, lol.
>wow, how did I ever enjoy this trilogy? It's completely unbelievable! The magical fantasy movie with mud-baked monsters and immortal elves and omnipotent flaming eyes was SO logical until the bad guy risked his magic ring! What were they thinking??
Another moronic OP.
Tolkeinchuds are the absolute worst fanbase imagine able, worse than star wars, a sizeable amount of them have actual autism and go into meltdown over the tiniest of details in a fictional childrens book series about magic elfs
tolkeinsisters i dont feel so good?
>mud-baked monsters
but that was realistic
why didn't Sauron feel the presence of the ring when Bilbo put it on in Mirkwood?
He was having a goon sesh with Sauronman.
>He was having a goon sesh with Sauronman.
>the iron fist of the goon
Wh-what's his other hand doing?
is that what all that sticky whites stuff covering the trees was?
> elves make magic rings
> sauron makes a secret ring to rule the others and bend them to his will, and makes other rings to control men and dwarves
literally explained in the first 30 seconds of the film
The rings for men and dwarves were actually the ones meant to manipulate eleves regifted
What was Aragorns dead elephant disposal policy?
Meat was BACK ON THE MENU for quite a while
>the most powerful warrior to ever live
>Giggle Lad
Gil-galad was an Elvish King, not a great warrior. Fingolfinn was the most powerful warrior to ever live (and he was also an elvish king). Here he is defeating Morgoth in single combat.
they always point out how humans are good and brave and cool for holding their ground against impossible odds, but when you think about it, they are always backed by god himself and sauron is the one who fights against impossible odds, he have to come up with all this shit like rings and technology and shit while humans can just sit on their ass because gandalf will hand-hold them and if somehow he dies he will just get resurrected by god and given a level up.
>actually the bad guy was the good guy
fascinating.
Men have to maintain their faith against impossible odds to reap the benefits of God
Evil cannot create, it can only corrupt or destroy.
Orcs are perverted elves. Trolls are ruined Ents. Sauron didn't invent Rings or technology. He stole them from others.
Maybe the only thing "invented" by evil were Dragons and that was more just giving form to spirits that already existed
that's just another disadvantage for sauron which proves my point
What about gunpowder and GROND?
Evil creates shit all the time. Like feminism or the federal reserve
So the ring has its own little brain right? Well, it's reaallly stupid. Rather than corrupting Isildur into worshipping Sauron and turning his kingdom to evil, it instead gets him killed and itself lost for three thousand years where it can't do anything towards increasing Sauron's influence. All that time it could have caused war after war keeping middle earth weak and ripe for Sauron's return.
>Rather than corrupting Isildur into worshipping Sauron
That's not how it works.
Sauron was the master of the ring. It endows one with the ability to dominate others, at the expense of increasing their ambitions to self-destructive levels and making them obsessed with the ring.
Sauron was actually scared that Aragorn might be able to master it and overthrow him. Tolkien himself said that in such a scenario, Aragorn would have simply become the new dark lord.
Basically it can't corrupt you into worshipping Sauron but it can turn you into a new Sauron. It was just a really inconvenient coincidence that Isildur got killed like he did.
Eru was loading the dice against Sauron but I suspect was giving him a chance to repent. Sauron’s fall started with noble intentions and a love of Arda and he didn’t really go fully insane until he was captured by neumenor and tricked them into human sacrifice and Morgoth worship out of spite
Sauron was following in Melkor's footsteps to make sure every country had a Central Bank.
There were' no redeeming that bloke.
The Ring was playing the long game.
>t instead gets him killed and itself lost for three thousand years where it can't do anything towards increasing Sauron's influence.
Isildur was taking the ring to Elrond because he knew he couldn't control it. The ring sensed this and summoned a nearby orc party to kill him. Smeagol taking the ring and hiding in a cave for a thousand years wasn't a part of the plan.
>the first half of AUJ was divine kino equaling or perhaps even surpassing LOTR
What went so wrong after this?
It was inevitable when they stretched it out over 3 movies and had all this pressure to expand on fricking every minute detail.
A Hobbit Duology would have been the move. Just tell the story as it was, maybe with some elaboration on The Necromancer.
how would the history be had sauron made a buttplug of power
He lost his ability to assume fair form after the fall of Numeor. His ass was too dilated by Morgoth before and during the first age for a buttplug of power to be practical after that.
A Hobbit would have found it for sure
why wasn't he invisible when wearing the ring
Sauron was Trump and the ring is capitalism.
Bravo Druckmann.
>my full power
It literally doubled his power.
He put almost all of his power in the ring, so that as he regained his power he would now have two times the amount.
At the time of ROTK Sauron was like only 1% of his total power. Which is why he needed the ring.
After the ring was destroyed 1% wasn't enough to sustain himself and he died.
This is just your head canon
they call it fantasy for a reason
My head canon is that the ring has two purposes, one is to rule the other rings, the other is to preserve his power. My theory is that Sauron recognized that, every time his body was destroyed and he was forced to rekindle it, a portion of his power was consumed. Therefore, by transfering his power externally to the ring, should his body be destroyed again, the bulk of his power would be preserved. Sure, power that he still had inside himself would be lessed significantly, and it would take a lot longer to rekindle his form, but the total quantity of power consumed would be less, while it statistically would be the same. You understand? Like, if his full power is 100, and he died, it would take 10% of his power to make a new body, and his total pool of power is now 90 instead of 100. That's permanent. So, he transferred 90 of his 100 into the ring, leaving him with 10 points still within him. If he were then killed, it still only cost 10% to build a new body, so he's only lost 1 point. He then puts on the ring and regains the other 90, leaving him with 99 total, instead of the 90 he otherwise would have had.
>he doesn't know that all magic comes from rings
are YOU moronic?
Lord of the Plotholes
he didn't say that
>sauron gets killed
>everybody lives in mudhuts and wear tincans suits for armor
>a thousand years later..
>sauron is back
>everybody still lives in mudhuts and still uses tincans suits for armor
I don't think Tolkien understood how time works
>not wearing it as a wiener-ring
Yes, his wiener has armor and a spiky helmet too
I respect Tolkien for pretty much single-handedly inventing the fantasy genre and the worldbuilding is extensive but it objectively makes no sense.
>makes ring to control the races
>they fight him anyway
>is seen as a world ending threat
>gets beat by random homies twice
Wow thank you so much for your observation
>behold the power of the ring! I can go invisible. I won’t though lol so you can easily see me (I’m huge) and the shiny ring on my finger.
He didn't say that
That's not what the ring does.
He was still going to win, with or without the ring.