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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    god damn I miss Gorillaz.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they're still around anon

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >nurillaz
        so tired of snoop dogg and flap jack shit every song. Andromeda is godlike, granted

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Plastic beach was the last okay album.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the project is a ghost now. I wouldn't be surprised if they did a miku collab or some shit next.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They're effectively dead as a project. The original intent was to tap into underground music acts from the era while creating a cartoon reality around the virtual band as a means of giving it a coherent identity. ST does this, DD does this, and PB does this (although I think PB was already starting to lose the plot a bit). Each one of those three eras showcased something from the zeitgeist of its time; ST was basically the direction music was moving in pre-9/11, DD serves a snapshot of the anger and frustration around the Iraq War, and PB feels like the sense of disarray and confusion following the global financial crisis as well as rapidly growing anxiety about the environment from that time. All three also serve to build up the cartoon world in some way, trying to create a sense of identity for this group that in reality was putting out albums that shotgun-spread their styles around.

        After the production issues of PB I think it just made them give up on keeping the project coherent. Everything feels very superficial and tacked-together now without much real direction. The band still EXISTS but it's functionally dead in terms of vision, it's like what happened to Jefferson Airplane. At least they had the decency to change their name.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I would dare to say that they were dead right after the debut as a project, and while Demon Days is universally revered, for me it wasn't really true to the spirit of Gorillaz

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I thought about saying something similar but kind of wondered if that wasn't too bold. I do feel like DD and PB at least try to be experimental in their own ways and still had the cartoon world angle to them, but yeah if you want to get really purist only ST really held to the standards that the group was supposed to follow.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'm kinda disappointed that you didn't notice my punny mix of
              >Dare
              and
              >Demon Days

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well shit now I'm disappointed in myself.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              what do you mean by cartoon World sngle though? you mean as in when they get Surreal?

              Nothing in particular

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I can't really blame them though; doing something like

            They're effectively dead as a project. The original intent was to tap into underground music acts from the era while creating a cartoon reality around the virtual band as a means of giving it a coherent identity. ST does this, DD does this, and PB does this (although I think PB was already starting to lose the plot a bit). Each one of those three eras showcased something from the zeitgeist of its time; ST was basically the direction music was moving in pre-9/11, DD serves a snapshot of the anger and frustration around the Iraq War, and PB feels like the sense of disarray and confusion following the global financial crisis as well as rapidly growing anxiety about the environment from that time. All three also serve to build up the cartoon world in some way, trying to create a sense of identity for this group that in reality was putting out albums that shotgun-spread their styles around.

            After the production issues of PB I think it just made them give up on keeping the project coherent. Everything feels very superficial and tacked-together now without much real direction. The band still EXISTS but it's functionally dead in terms of vision, it's like what happened to Jefferson Airplane. At least they had the decency to change their name.

            for 20+ years would require a staggering level of obsessiveness or absolutely colossal fan buy in to the cartoon world. Plus both were successful and established before Gorillaz which makes it harder to sustain something like it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Damn thats nostalgic, one of the first CD's i owned. The whole edgy underground cartoon aesthetic paired with eclectic, catchy music was like crack for me as a kid.
          I still love their first 3 albums but since then Damon's gotten so boring. There's no unique production or memorable hooks anymore, its all just samey beats and mumbling and rappers.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >although I think PB was already starting to lose the plot a bit
          >a bit

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I give PB more credit than I honestly think it deserves because of how fricked its production was both from a music and animation perspective. It's easily the weakest of the "classic" 3 for me.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Phase 3 was fricking weird
              I ended up loving The Fall, Doncamatic, and DoYaThing way more than anything that came out of Plastic Beach

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well, thanks for explaining why you feel the way that you do about it, which is a lot more than most people on this board are willing to say about anything ("It's bad because it's bad and if you like it you're a homosexual who should kill himself.")

                As I said, the concept, themes and the overall aesthetic of the album has always resonated with me more than the others, even Demon Days, which I'd consider to be a close second to Plastic Beach. I just really, really like nautical stuff. I grew up watching SpongeBob, I listen to Plastic Beach and BioShock is my favorite game of all time. Simple as.

                I suppose that, with all of the drama surrounding its production, that many people would see Plastic Beach as the thing that killed the band, and have contempt for it as a result. I don't agree with it, but I get it.
                >I guess though, for a lot of kids, it was their first Gorillaz album, so they see it the same way I see the debut because I know the Wii U Zoomer generation regards it fondly.
                There's some merit to that. Plastic Beach wasn't my first Gorillaz album, but it came out at a time when I wish just beginning to really define my taste in music, and it's stuck with me ever since.
                [...]
                >Doncamatic, and DoYaThing
                Two of my favorite Gorillaz songs. "DoYaThing" felt like the "series finale" of the whole project.

                Gorillaz peaked here.

                DoYaThing chads rise up

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Jefferson Airplane
          Qrd on these guys? Please

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            1960s experimental band that produced what's widely regarded as one of the best psychedelic albums of all time in "Surrealistic Pillow". The band split apart in the early 70s and half of them went on to form Jefferson Starship, a decidedly more pop-oriented band that didn't sound anything like the original. They then became even MORE pop-oriented in the 80s and rebranded to simply "Starship". For comparison between the three incarnations:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOMuK7YYxeg

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Thanks
              The chance is between every iteeation of the band is total

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Early Gorillaz aesthetic was full of soul

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What if I just enjoy their music? I really enjoyed Cracker Island.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            CI is probably the best out of post PB but I really don't like the cheap 3d model material they used, I rather have the grotesque textures from the dressing room

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Thank you, I always struggled to properly explain it that well, but yeah Gorillaz was great because it was both a great Cinemaphile and music project merged into something completely unique. It had both a passionate musician doing a completely unique style and a very talented artist and writer building up it's story and identity

          Now it's just a totally average at best band, the songs no longer mean anything a hundred other bands didn't already explored in better songs and the cartoon part is nothing but a bunch of designs without the story.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >DD does this
          Demon Days was when they dumped Dan the Automator in favor of the slicker production of Danger Mouse and started filling the albums with loads of guests of reasonably notability (De La Soul, Pharcyde and MF Doom were sure as shit more well known than Del and half of Cibo Matto, plus Dennis fricking Hopper).

          The self-titled is great because it's pretty much just a continuation of what Dan had been doing going back to Dr. Octagonecologyst which provided it with a great sound and atmosphere compared to the more radio friendly style of Demon Days.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Latin Simone is one of their best songs, and is similar to 12D3 also. They're like, droning hypnotic tracks for high schoolers to imagine kissing their crush to.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't

      I love del <3

      he shoulda did the whole album like it was planned early in the beginning of the project

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The first album is the only good thing they've ever made. Everything else is increasingly shit and all the lore shit is lame.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're not wrong, but you shouldn't say that.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love del <3

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tryin' to get over, I'ma go for mine
      You know the time now that I'm older I'm gonna
      rip homiez heads with the said salutations
      Introducing Del and his bid for boostin tails

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He appeared on Wait Wait Don't Tell Me (the NPR news quiz), you should check it out.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Look at those skinny legs

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I use to get stoned watching the vids on the DVD

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      are you dead yet

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        no
        I guess I could do that more often
        Gorillaz is always a comfy trip

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I never stopped to look the design at all, pretty cool

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like vinyl aesthetic.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What do they even talk about?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing, its purely a business relationship

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We've heard them casually cit-chat in little extras from Song Machine.

      Their conversations sound like the intrusive thoughts that flash through your brain when you can't go to sleep. Interrupted only occasionally when one of them says something brilliant out of nowhere. Like fricking typewriting monkeys.

      Typewriting moneys... gorillas... oh my god...

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >God bless America
      It's amazing how much Europeans seethe over US politics. You'd think they were a US band, or at the very least Canadian.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They routinely collab with American Musicians and besides the fact 2D is voiced by a Brit it's very easy to forget they originate from Bongland

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pazuzu

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing in particular

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Russel looks quite dapper in his suit!
      And sexy.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        he also lost a bunch of weight...
        what happened to him?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Trimspa baby!

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gorillaz stopped being good the moment they ditched their grimy goofy hiphop style

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    FRICK THE GORILLAZ

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes,
      I want to show noodle my noodle

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Noodle is not for lewdle.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I will lewdle the Noodle any damn way i want to.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Noodle is too cute for lewdle.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Ok, taking lewd requests for Noodle then. I need to get back to drawing

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                POV shot of Noodle holding hands with Anon.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry for the delay. I like instantly fell asleep after posting that

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This hairstyle looks like she would have a wild bush

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Noodle showing off a new belly button piercing.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Noodle getting fricked hard POV style, not gonna beat around the bush.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Noddle bending down showing her thong/ asscrack.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                *Noodle
                whoops

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Noodle's bush

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Seconding

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Something really racist with OG Noodle design.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Very poor choice of words asswipe

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ?si=GKgZCfXYh9tDgAXS

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          IM RAPIN, IM FEELING GLAD!
          I FRICK ANON, IN HIS ASS!
          I RAPE HIM, UNTIL HE PLEADS I RAPE HIM!
          DOWN IN THE STREETs!

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why did they never colab with Del again? the band might not even exist today if it wasn't for him but despite his huge influence they have 0 interest in working with him again?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because gorillaz is a shitty band/project. simple as

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The guy behind Del returned for a concert a few years ago and he broke his leg on stage.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      me in the bottom right

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dunno if i miss the Gorillaz or if i just miss that era

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I miss both but Gorillaz is something unique, a relic from the early 2000's.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gorillaz completely went over me as a kid in the early 00's and now it feels way too late for me to ever catch up with. I mean, I really like art style and music but it's not like just picking up random albums from a normal band either
      Honestly cartoons were the only things I feel like I was in touch with at the time

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I've never really gave a shit about the lore of Gorillaz. I just think Hewlett's art is cool and some of the early albums sound good.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OOOH FLIMSY STEVE

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      where have ya been, what have ya seen

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Stop complaining, post some nuGorillaz you actually like

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Had no idea people consider Plastic Beach to be a step down. I got into Gorillaz just before it came out and, when it did, it blew my mind. To this day, it's not only my favorite Gorillaz album, but one of my all-time favorite albums in general. I just love the whole "nautical adventure" theme and how the music plays with that. Also, Cyborg Noodle.

      If the "nu-Gorillaz" period starts with Humanz, then...

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'd say the Fall was the start

        >Had no idea people consider Plastic Beach to be a step down
        I don't know where people are getting this from either, I remember most people liking it

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dont know what it is about Noodle in this video but she looks the best I've seen. Those waist high short pants puling that mid-life wine aunt look.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Noodle is like wine. She gets better with age.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            true

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            doesn't look like her, she was already an adult in PB.
            Hate this idea that women can't be tiny.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Hate this idea that women can't be tiny.
              Anon, what are you talking about? Noodle is still tiny.

              Gorillaz peaked here.

              I love songs that make me hungry.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oops, actually meant for

                For real tho, what the frick was with Super fast Jellyfish
                It felt like a shitpost

                .

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Noodle is still tiny.
                no she is normal height, sometimes even drawn same height as 2d.
                She was a noticeable small woman before.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i like her dark and eye covering

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Why are eyes covering the hair such peak design, it's crazy how improved nearly any design becomes when you cover the eyes with the hair

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's called "mekakure"

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Looks good on Toph

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I fell in love with Six (little nightmares) and Lucy Loud for basically the exact same reason
                Lesson for future creators: if you want me to like your character, give them hair over eyes (both of them not that pussy emo one eye shit)

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm guessing you also like her

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You think I don't

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Gahh I love six even if she is a traitorous b***h

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >give them hair over eyes (both of them not that pussy emo one eye shit)
                I feel personally attacked.

                Sorry for the delay. I like instantly fell asleep after posting that

                Great job, Anon.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        People gave it shit for being too pop and clean, but I appreciated how it felt distinct. Probably the last time other than RAM I was truly hyped for an album to come out.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          for a second i thought you meant paul mccartneys Ram kek

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Whatever became of Cyborg Noodle?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          In the video where they blow up Plastic Beach, she's trapped on the submarine, too busted to move but still intact enough to be aware as it sank into the deep oceans (it got knocked off in a blast)

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            F

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's never been consistent. There have been multiple fates for her. I think her original fate had Noodle chopping off her head and using it to grow a bonsai tree. The second one had Cyborg Noodle forming a band with a Frankenstein's Monster like creature and calling themselves The Rejects. The third and most recent one involved her sinking to the bottom of the ocean in The Lost Chord music video.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            In the art book post Plastic Beach, she was with Murdoc when he was rescued by EMI or some other music company and in the video of Do ya thing, apparently she is in a garbage bag.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The reception was mixed because it was a huge step down from demon days. Also the songs that were left out where better than the songs that made it into plastic beach.

        >CAPTCHA:40RT0

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The reception was mixed because it was a huge step down from demon days.
          That's purely subjective. I love Demon Days, but I love Plastic Beach more.
          >Also the songs that were left out where better than the songs that made it into plastic beach.
          Which songs are those?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'd say the Fall was the start

        >Had no idea people consider Plastic Beach to be a step down
        I don't know where people are getting this from either, I remember most people liking it

        I was into Gorillaz for nearly a decade before PB, and yeah, the reactions to it at the time were much more mixed. People had the argument that Damon was barely on the album compared to all the guest stars, and a lot of the songs felt phoned in. Demon Days felt extremely cohesive and much darker and more realized than their debut album. Plastic Beach felt like a concept album but stretched way too thin with too much filler. The whole Phase 3 storyline also got axed halfway through, so it felt incomplete. Also, Stylo's music video was "clearly ripped off from Daft Punk's movie." That's the criticisms I remember from then. Also, the Plastic Beach hub you could play with online didn't compare to Kong Studios.

        I think some people forget or are too young to remember than Gorillaz started out both as a means to get more alternative and hip hop artists into the UK mainstream as well as a reaction against MTV and MTV2 and the music video scene, hence why they were cartoons because "the artists might as well be fake anyway." The first album carried that byline all the way through, and the second album started the trend of treating it like a ARG band but at least MTV2 still played music videos and the point was still there. Plastic Beach was the point where the band itself was the point rather than any message.
        Maybe it's because I stopped caring after a while that I wasn't around for people to start reappraising Plastic Beach. I know everyone loves "Melancholy Hill" for a reason and I do have nostalgia for Stylo and being hyped for a new Gorillaz album after 5 years and seeing what became of Noodle officially after El Manana (that Rise of the Ogre book left it open to interpretation), but my own experience was that the final product felt lackluster compared to Demon Days.
        I guess though, for a lot of kids, it was their first Gorillaz album, so they see it the same way I see the debut because I know the Wii U Zoomer generation regards it fondly.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You hit the nail on the head I think, it's not that it's a bad album and I've never seen anyone claim that but compared to DD it's definitely missing a lot. Hell I remember the reaction right here on Cinemaphile was extremely mixed and Cinemaphile was full of hyperbolic "THEY FRICKED IT ALL UP" threads. I still think it's the last of that first stretch and the hyperbole was, well, going too far, but it's definitely not quite as strong as Demon Days or conceptually interesting as ST. And yeah that cartoon aspect getting cut short due to all of the production issues really didn't help either.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You hit the nail on the head I think, it's not that it's a bad album and I've never seen anyone claim that but compared to DD it's definitely missing a lot. Hell I remember the reaction right here on Cinemaphile was extremely mixed and Cinemaphile was full of hyperbolic "THEY FRICKED IT ALL UP" threads. I still think it's the last of that first stretch and the hyperbole was, well, going too far, but it's definitely not quite as strong as Demon Days or conceptually interesting as ST. And yeah that cartoon aspect getting cut short due to all of the production issues really didn't help either.

          Yeah it just kind of feels incomplete, from both an album and cartoon perspective. Like

          PB sort of had a mixed reception on release, it seems like a lot of people forget about that now. It also has a number of songs that are basically totally forgotten, like Sweepstakes and Cloud of Unknowing. I think it's included in the "classic" run because it still feels like the band's coherent, and it does have a number of very good songs on it, but it's a clear step down from ST and DD overall. Everything that came after was just completely unfocused and significantly less consistent.

          said it's also got some songs that just seem completely forgotten and honestly aren't that good, I don't think you can say that about their first two. It feels thin, sort of stretched, like butter over too much bread.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >as well as a reaction against MTV and MTV2 and the music video scene
          >MTV
          lmao, it was only 25 years ago but may as well have been 100, completely different world than today. Wikipedia says mtv's peak was in 2011, but I can't image it had any cultural relevance by that point, so it makes sense to me that gorillaz would falter a little if mtv was so foundational to the project's nature.

          I had no exposure to gorillaz until 2019, so I can only offer a dumbass newbie perspective, but I think PB is the best of the initial three at being an actual album, keeping the music front and center where the others put equal or greater emphasis on the social commentary. I rank DD below the other two and I think that's because I have no connection to the early aughts cultural landscape (and no knowledge of the lore). So because of that it feels to me like, conceptually, the album is similar to Humanz where its just a grab bag of shit Damon wanted to complain about. The songs also feel disconnected musically unlike PB. I don't know what it is, but something about the flow from around white flag to empire ants just gives PB a cinematic feeling that has me completely hooked, even through songs like jellyfish or sweepstakes.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            MTV's cultural relevance through the 00s happened because of it shifting to reality TV, and that bubble popped when the decade turned over. Its cultural relevance in terms of music content was already declining in the late 90s.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Its cultural relevance in terms of music content was already declining in the late 90s
              Gorillaz was conceived in 98, so MTV still had music videos on rotation but MTV2 was about to get started and pick up the slack for a while (I was way too young to remember the 90s)
              It's easy to forget MTV had a lot of programming back then too including alternative animation (like Beavis and Butthead, Aeon Flux, etc) so "raunchy musical cartoon band" wasn't a strange concept but more a realization of everything MTV was doing in the 90s that came about probably 5 years too late. You wouldn't understand Gorillaz as well unless you were there and saw everything MTV was about. Everyone remembers the reality TV, but 90s MTV comes off as a corporate approved punk/alternative counterculture channel. That's exactly what early Gorillaz felt like. MTV was both a channel that inherently worshipped celebrities while simultaneously shitting on celebrities and fake plastic American culture, where you could see a Sheryl Crow and Michael Jackson music video right next to Suicidal Tendencies and Rage Against the Machine, so the band felt like the perfect encapsulation of that.
              No wonder why when MTV got all nu-metal and gangsta and extreme sports and total raunch in the 2000s and stopped playing music videos, Gorillaz stopped being Damon Albarn's Sgt Pepper and started being a legit musical project with its own lore

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I rank DD below the other two and I think that's because I have no connection to the early aughts cultural landscape
            DD was kind of similar to Radiohead's Hail to the Thief in that it was heavily, HEAVILY influenced by the politics of the era. I disagree that it doesn't function coherently as an album though, it has a dark and brooding atmosphere that's very reflective of when it came out. But again like you said, it's also very reflective of when it came out. ST is too honestly, in fact the musical landscape it portrays is basically completely alien by today's standards, but it's not influenced by the political situation of the time and its themes are more universal and less "00s brooding".

            I personally think that DD is their most complete album conceptually, but maybe that's just lost nowadays.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Well, thanks for explaining why you feel the way that you do about it, which is a lot more than most people on this board are willing to say about anything ("It's bad because it's bad and if you like it you're a homosexual who should kill himself.")

          As I said, the concept, themes and the overall aesthetic of the album has always resonated with me more than the others, even Demon Days, which I'd consider to be a close second to Plastic Beach. I just really, really like nautical stuff. I grew up watching SpongeBob, I listen to Plastic Beach and BioShock is my favorite game of all time. Simple as.

          I suppose that, with all of the drama surrounding its production, that many people would see Plastic Beach as the thing that killed the band, and have contempt for it as a result. I don't agree with it, but I get it.
          >I guess though, for a lot of kids, it was their first Gorillaz album, so they see it the same way I see the debut because I know the Wii U Zoomer generation regards it fondly.
          There's some merit to that. Plastic Beach wasn't my first Gorillaz album, but it came out at a time when I wish just beginning to really define my taste in music, and it's stuck with me ever since.

          Phase 3 was fricking weird
          I ended up loving The Fall, Doncamatic, and DoYaThing way more than anything that came out of Plastic Beach

          >Doncamatic, and DoYaThing
          Two of my favorite Gorillaz songs. "DoYaThing" felt like the "series finale" of the whole project.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            My contempt is with The Fall.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              How so? I mean, I can see why in terms of its contents but It's an album produced by Albarn, on the road, within 30 days or so using Garageband on his iPad. They didin't even charge anyone for it you unless they specifically wanted the vinyl. It was only created to compensate for not being able to release anything major due to an ongoing tour.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's probably the reason in and of itself. It was a full Gorillaz album made essentially in a month, that didn't have anywhere near the same level of effort put into it as the other albums. Not that I wanted there to be 5 year gaps between records, but at least it felt like they were bringing their A game each time for a multimedia experience. The Fall felt like a B-sides, didn't have any of the visuals (you know the whole point of the band), and felt like the point Damon Albarn finally and truly stopped treating it like an edgy art project and more like his successor to Blur.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It was never advertised as a full album, your expectations were just wrong

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not really a point in its favor though because
                >No one was sure if it was a "real" album or not, even though it was clearly just made in a very short amount of time, because it could have been a new direction all the same
                >Gorillaz albums typically came in 4-5 year intervals up to that point, so fans were eager to see the band start to put out stuff in less time
                >Phase 3 ended prematurely, so there was confusion if this was part of it or not

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What I hate about PB is that is was too lore centric but neither Damon or Jamie couldn't give a damn about the lore in the first place. PB didn't focussed on yhe band as a whole but rather in 2D and Murdoc and has been like that ever since. Hell, Noodle and Russel where such afterthoughts in PB that Noodle was replaced by a cyborg and Russel by a toy.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They basically wrote themselves into a corner after El Manana. It was a cool idea for Noodle to 'die' and there be a conspiracy, but they had no game plan after that.
              Personally I view Plastic Beach as a perfect symbol for the band's future. An island for all the garbage - guest singers, shitty lore, unfinished music videos, and half baked websites. Great album, but the canary in the coalmine.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Noodles death being a fakeout was fine. The Rise of the Ogre book implied she wanted to get out of the limelight, but the "trapped and betrayed" by Murdoc part is where it went off the rails officially. I would not have minded if she actually died and Cyborg Noodle was her eternally teenaged replacement inhabited by her spirit. I don't say that just to be a pedo. Aging up the characters in real time was cool for Demon Days because we got new designs, but after that is when it became too ARG-like and the band became exactly the kind of "keeping up with the Gorillaz" celebrities they were made to mock. Now Murdoc is something like 60 years old?
                In a way it does kind of reflect where pop culture went. Nowadays everything is evergreen and we're not far from the days that mascots and fictional characters become streamers and have AI-powered IRL personalities 24/7. The days when a cartoon band could just be a cartoon band gimmick that started and ended with the music videos and G-byte shorts and that was it is long gone. Now you have generations of spergs who unironically take cartoons seriously like they're actually real.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's basically every story ever though.

                I did a webcomic about a decade ago and created what I thought were the most disposable and generic characters possible precisely because I didn't want to get attached to them or for anyone to want them fleshed out— they were vehicles for the bad jokes, nothing more. It didn't take more than a year for the interpersonal relationships and backstories to start coming. That's when I realised most creators probably do the same thing. I don't think Maxwell Atoms set out to have Billy, Mandy, and Grim actually come to care for each other and their idiot-syncrasies. Same thing with Albarn, Hewlett, and Gorillaz. Beginning felt like they cobbled together 4 very "90s MTV" personalities— British punk dude, heavy metal Satanist, hyperactive uber Japanese kid, and real gangsta rapper— and then over time they became 2D, Murdoc, Noodle, and Russell, and the guys couldn't help but make them feel real.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't know if Hatsune Miku and Gorillaz could be compared any more than Daft Punk and Gorillaz can (growing up, those two were the ones I always heard described as "fake bands"). At least with Daft Punk the whole thing was that they were hiding behind masks and that anime movie basically for fun and a love of anime and the French electronic scene.
                Gorillaz was like pure 90s alternative edge-punk stuff: acting like a rebel against the Man, while signed to a major label and airing on the same channels they were made to mock. Damon Albarn was already a superstar from Blur, and Jamie Hewlett was already pretty big from Tank Girl, and they just happened to meet up, get stoned, and talk shit about how plastic MTV was at their flatblock and decide to collaborate to create a fake band poking fun at all the celebrity worship and fake anti-celebrity rebellion hosted on the same network, and Albarn also had the chance to use his fame to bring black/hip hop acts to the British mainstream which he felt were left out of recognition. The fake band just took a life of its own because of what said.
                Hatsune Miku felt like a gratuitously Japanese concept to create an artificial idol who never ages, is perfectly managed by her parent company, and is evergreen.

                At some point, the world got so postmodern and deconstructionist that we now fully accept and embrace blatantly "fake" bands and musicians as legit. You can probably find at least a few publications listing Noodle as one of the greatest guitarists and 2D as one of the greatest singers in pop music unironically without mentioning the actual IRL musicians behind them.

                Also wasn't Noodle 14? What did Hewlett and Gorillaz mean by this?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                YOU'VE GOT TO PRESS IT ON YOU

                Man, I miss Gorillaz from their first couple albums. Even Plastic Beach was pretty good.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >that art
                God I would pay for some on model Noodle

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm 95% sure that wasn't even fanart but some official art from Phase 2 just cropped and without the background

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The thing is Gorillaz was a hyperbolic satire of the celebrity model that became immediately obsolete the moment we had actual eternally young pop stars like Hatsune Miku. Hatsune Miku is what Gorillaz wanted to be, only sincere and without British cynical post-rock angst.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hatsune Miku isn't what Gorillaz wanted to be, she's like a (from a late 90s perspective) bizarro world version of them. Instead of being a joke about the industry created from the ground-up and tooled by people from inside of it, she's a product of the industry created from the top-down tooled from people outside of it. If anything Miku's just proof of how insane the modern world's become compared to even just a decade before her debut.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But see the dire prediction of the virtual band with the artificial lives is what became obsolete. We got the fake pop star, but we didn't get the depressing tabloid garbage. Instead Hatsune Miku was democratized and is even now experiencing a surge in popularity. Meanwhile, Gorillaz's own rise and fall is tied to the fact actual individuals are behind the band - they not only became what they criticized, they always were. It was one of those shallow self deprecations. "Oh, imagine if AI's or otherwise fake people were used to make a virtual band, imagine what the corporations or mass media would do." Turns out, nothing. It's the western music industry that's rotten, and nothing else.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fair enough for the Gorillaz but you say that as though Miku isn't being touted around like the corporate idol she was always intended to be right now too. The Japanese music industry is hardly any less rotten, it's just rotten in a very different way. Again I feel like she's some bizarro reflection of them.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                [...]
                Miku is democratized corporatism where they give you a tool but still cynically extract it for profit as can be seen by her live concerts and licensed appearances, while Gorillaz is (or rather, was) corporatized democracy where it took genuinely underground trends and brought them to corporate attention through established channels. They really are like inverses of each other.

                You two should make up

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fair enough for the Gorillaz but you say that as though Miku isn't being touted around like the corporate idol she was always intended to be right now too. The Japanese music industry is hardly any less rotten, it's just rotten in a very different way. Again I feel like she's some bizarro reflection of them.

                Miku is democratized corporatism where they give you a tool but still cynically extract it for profit as can be seen by her live concerts and licensed appearances, while Gorillaz is (or rather, was) corporatized democracy where it took genuinely underground trends and brought them to corporate attention through established channels. They really are like inverses of each other.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, Gorillaz was never democratized. It was always corporate approved rebellion against the corporations. It's like how Amazon backed Boys shits on Amazon.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The example I was going to use was Rage Against the Machine. I can't think of any other act more defined by being anticapitalist that was nevertheless amplified by capitalism besides Gorillaz themselves and most of the punk rock movement

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I would say the Clash are right there.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think you need to re-read my post because I'm suggesting exactly what you said.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But see the dire prediction of the virtual band with the artificial lives is what became obsolete. We got the fake pop star, but we didn't get the depressing tabloid garbage. Instead Hatsune Miku was democratized and is even now experiencing a surge in popularity. Meanwhile, Gorillaz's own rise and fall is tied to the fact actual individuals are behind the band - they not only became what they criticized, they always were. It was one of those shallow self deprecations. "Oh, imagine if AI's or otherwise fake people were used to make a virtual band, imagine what the corporations or mass media would do." Turns out, nothing. It's the western music industry that's rotten, and nothing else.

                Fair enough for the Gorillaz but you say that as though Miku isn't being touted around like the corporate idol she was always intended to be right now too. The Japanese music industry is hardly any less rotten, it's just rotten in a very different way. Again I feel like she's some bizarro reflection of them.

                and that's why I listen to death metal and 9-s hip hop and 80s industrial

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Man Saturn Barz really feels like the sound and vibe Humanz was meant to have then the album just went off the rails.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gorillaz lost the plot when the cartoons tried to be real people. No one even remembers The Fall but that's where they really fell off.

    Also funny that PB is part of the "classic albums." I remember when it was new. It's been nearly 15 years and I still can't get fully into it. DD is the peak and the debut was the truest version. Yet PB still at least felt like it had a point and was somewhat trying to be Gorillaz, even though the band aged out of the MTV2 zeitgeist (or maybe the other way around)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Title album "The Fall"
      >It's the exact point the band undeniably falls off
      Pottery

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      PB sort of had a mixed reception on release, it seems like a lot of people forget about that now. It also has a number of songs that are basically totally forgotten, like Sweepstakes and Cloud of Unknowing. I think it's included in the "classic" run because it still feels like the band's coherent, and it does have a number of very good songs on it, but it's a clear step down from ST and DD overall. Everything that came after was just completely unfocused and significantly less consistent.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Fall was just a little demo project from Daman while he was on tour, it wasnt meant to be a real album.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DAMON IT'S BEEN 15 YEARS STOP BEING A homosexual AND RELEASE THE SEA SIDES ALREADY

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    MILK MILK LEMONADE
    ROUND THE CORNER
    FUDGE IS MADE

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They should've kept Ace and buy him out of ppg

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gorillaz peaked here.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >love the first part
      >hate the "im the shit" part
      >love the "feel like i'm shit" part
      annoying

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For real tho, what the frick was with Super fast Jellyfish
    It felt like a shitpost

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It tastes just like chicken!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you can separate gorillaz in two eras: before spongebob and after it.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    WORD

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    To this day nothing Ive seen has captured the same unique eerie vibe of Feel Good Inc's music video. Not scary, but uneasing and mysterious. I wish I had Jamie Hewlett's power level.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >This and the Dirty Harry music video
      >Lord of the Rings constantly playing on the movie channels
      >Teen Titans
      >Peak Adult Swim
      >Gamecube and PS2 games
      >Coming home from school to see new news about the clusterfrick in Iraq
      Ah yeah, it's mid-00s time

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I rank DD below the other two and I think that's because I have no connection to the early aughts cultural landscape
      DD was kind of similar to Radiohead's Hail to the Thief in that it was heavily, HEAVILY influenced by the politics of the era. I disagree that it doesn't function coherently as an album though, it has a dark and brooding atmosphere that's very reflective of when it came out. But again like you said, it's also very reflective of when it came out. ST is too honestly, in fact the musical landscape it portrays is basically completely alien by today's standards, but it's not influenced by the political situation of the time and its themes are more universal and less "00s brooding".

      I personally think that DD is their most complete album conceptually, but maybe that's just lost nowadays.

      As a kid, I wanted to see this as a full movie so badly

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You almost got one

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So Cyborg Noodle was something akin to Androids 17 and 18?

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how the frick did the fall filter so many people
    the fall felt like an apology after the celebrity sellout fest that was plastic beach

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It was too moronic for a Gorillaz album.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Filter
      Sometimes it's just a bad album and you, specifically, like it for some reason. That's not a filter, you just have odd tastes. And that's fine and all but you shouldn't expect everyone else to match them.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The fact DoYaThing isn't on streaming or even able to buy it is a crime. The last good Gorillaz song and they weren't even there.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's weird to me that you all find Noodle attractive.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She's a cute, quirky, tomboyish Japanese girl with a playful "older sister" vibe. What about that ISN'T attractive?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Her face

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There is nothing wrong with her face.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There wasn't when she was younger

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          But I love her dopey chimp face

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Jamie Hewlett draws weirdly overdesigned face and hands that definitely makes his characters look like monkeys (which I guess fits for a band called Gorillaz)
            I guess it's more distinctive than some generic anime style but I always thought it was kind of odd even as a kid

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I loved it from day 1 I saw it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Art goals, always felt so inspired looking at his work.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's hard to imitate

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >"older sister" vibe
        I'm an oldgay who was still in school when ST came out, so Noodle is canonically the "same age" as me. As fun as it's been to have a character age in real time, it's kind of weird to wrap my head around the character who started out as the silly kid giving off the older sister energy to other people now.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's the vibe I get from how they portray her these days. Older, wiser, more relaxed, occasionally cleaning up the messes 2-D and Murdoc leave behind, yet still kind of smug and playful. It helps that I AM younger than her — an idiot zoomer who was still shitting in diapers when when the S/T came out.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't even fully understand it myself but I just love her

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just coomers do.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gorillaz is better than it's ever been. Désolé, Valley of the Pagans, and New Gold blow away anything on Plastic Beach or Demon Days.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > The idea to create Gorillaz came about when Albarn and Hewlett were watching MTV. Hewlett said, "If you watch MTV for too long, it's a bit like hell – there's nothing of substance there. So we got this idea for a virtual band, something that would be a comment on that."[17] Albarn said: "This was the beginning of the boy band sort of explosion... and it just felt so manufactured. And we were like, well let's make a manufactured band but make it kind of interesting."

    Oh I thought the other anons were just throwing out theories and headcanon. I had no idea that they were ACTUALLY mocking MTV

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It was specifically the whole "MTV Cribs" model. You have a musician who is ostensibly wealthy, but the reality is he rents his mansion, cars, and bling. It's legitimate for truly big stars like Michael Jackson or Eminem, but the reality is there's only so much of that pie to go around and the vast majority are living a lie.
      The problem with Gorillaz is just having a fake music studio crib doesn't actually satirize it. Saying "look at this thing, isn't it cool (actually I hate it)" is not satire. You are actually supporting that thing, you just are being tsundere about it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I had no idea that they were ACTUALLY mocking MTV
      Wait you thought all the other posters were just making shit up?
      I thought it was common knowledge that Gorillaz started out as a pisstake on mid-late 90s MTV culture, which is why I said that Gorillaz aged out of their milieu by Plastic Beach once even MTV2 (which was specifically created to air nothing but music videos after MTV rotted into reality TV and animation) had turned into literally "MTV 2" and music videos became a Youtube thing where you had complete freedom to watch whatever you wanted as you please, and since social media hadn't matured yet, Gorillaz were stuck in between these two eras and just kind of folded into themselves kind of like how the Simpsons stopped being so radical after a few years and just embraced being the generic TV sitcom it was mocking

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe he is a zoomer and doesn't know what MTV originally was?

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Remember when Del fell off the stage and broke several bones

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    2D is cuter than Noodle both visually and especially in personality and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You are free to believe whatever you want to believe, even if it's wrong.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        best noodle

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dare Noodle is best Noodle

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          meant for

          best noodle

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, racing noodle or pacman noodle best noodle.
          Dare noodle is a flat twig

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Dare noodle is a flat twig
            Ain't nothing wrong with that.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              yes there is, I want MORE

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We so depressed and apathetic. Ain't we cool?

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    At school I used to do the entire rap for street cred (I never got any, but at least I attempted to earn some).

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Current Noodle gives me such wine aunt vibes

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