I like how Bruce Timm is such a coomer he completely undermines Baby Doll’s tragedy by proving she can easily pass as a normal vertically challenged woman ,thus making the problem moreso psychological which in turns lessens the impact.
It’s not even like Joker or Twoface where the disfiguration itself was a traumatic effect that can’t be undone through surgery or makeup even like her closets analogies like killer croc or toyman didn’t have the same access to therapies and treatment like baby doll.
Like she could easily roll off as a 20s something midge it’s not unbelievable.
>midge
Not even that. Midgets are deformed and have proportional differences. Baby Doll is just stunted.
Midget is usually intended to refer to proportionate dwarfs though, or it used to be.
What a little bawd. Imagine her having to heave her whole body just to have sex on top of you
Yeah but her being a villain is the tamest compared to any other lunatic next to Riddler.
Imagine if she got mistaken for an actual baby by some Looney-Tunes-style diaper-changing machine
>We never got the Baby Doll/Toyman episode
>Opposite of the Croc episode, where the second villain is turned on by her infantilism shtick instead of repulsed.
>He's so into it that she starts getting uncomfortable with him, with her being the model for a line of actual "Baby Dolls" with changeable, disposable diapers (sold separately)
You think Mary has problems with bedwetting?
shortstacks were niche fetish material in the 90's. I know this is hard to fathom now since every hack twitter artist just draws goblin porn
I’m not saying that what I’m saying Tim’s willingness to put curves on her frames… I don’t know… makes her look like a very compressed but still matured woman instead of a hormonal freak?
Which would be considered a freak back then and not as hot as tight bellied, nubile, busty, well built women which bloomed like flowers in spring in 90's media.
I remember they were calling this guy a Pedo on Twat-ter some years ago over this.
>shortstacks were niche fetish material in the 90's.
Babydoll isn't a shortstack she doesn't have big breasts. Yes you need big breasts to be a shortstack that's what the stacked part means. She's literally just short not a short stack and people need to stop using shortstack to mean short. Shortflats are not shortstacks.
She isn’t even flat either she’s just a normal female body type condensed.
Like even there you forget there were probably smaller communities for people like her for support. Like even in normievile down in midstreet she could find a normal but open guy.
>Like even there you forget there were probably smaller communities for people like her for support.
But she didn't want that. She didn't want to be treated as an "other", she wanted to be normal. And maybe more than just that, she wanted to be a pretty, well loved starlet.
There's always been support groups for the abnormal and people willing to love them- she couldn't accept that because she didn't love herself.
>She isn’t even flat either she’s just a normal female body type condensed.
So she's not a shortstack.
>Babydoll isn't a shortstack she doesn't have big breasts. Yes you need big breasts to be a shortstack that's what the stacked part means
No. Midna is the genre-defining character the term was coined for. She is completely flat, and instead has massive hips.
Honestly I have no idea where this “shortstack means boobs” misconception comes from.
>Midna is the genre-defining character the term was coined for.
No the term shortstack was in use by black dudes in the early 2000's at least, before Midna was made. A woman with short but full bodied proportions, which is common with black and mixed hispanic women.
That said it was always more about the hips/ass because, of course, it's a black slang initially , but people ran with the "stacked" part for breasts. So I'd say Midna counts.
>No. Midna is the genre-defining character the term was coined for. She is completely flat, and instead has massive hips.
No she fricking isn't. Shortstack was a term before Midna was a thing you fricking zygote. Just because all your idiots started referring to her a shortstack doesn't change the meaning of the term.
>Honestly I have no idea where this “shortstack means boobs” misconception comes from.
Short + Stacked. It's as simple as that. You need to be short and have big breasts. The jap version is oppai e-girl. It's the same thing. Shortstack is the western term for short with big breasts, like how a titfrick is a paizuri. Just because Midnagays co opted the term doesn't change it's original meaning. If you need help go to any porn booru, search the tag and go to the earliest entries and they're all exclusively short chicks with big breasts.
I have no idea why morons started using it to refer to midna who is just a pear shaped ass goblin. She's not a shortstack. Now someone like Rouge is the definition of a shortstack.
You weren't there, anon. I understand your confusion, because you're clearly young enough you never experienced a good Sonic game, judging by posting that nuSonic character, but the term only came into prevalence with Midna.
>but the term only came into prevalence with Midna.
Among white people online maybe. I was there too and I can attest to other anon that shortstack was being used as a term before Midna.
Much like "woke", slang isn't counted as "real" until white people use it and make up a new definition to suit their needs.
>but the term only came into prevalence with Midna.
No it didn't am im probably older than you, you condescending homosexual. If you're going to try and correct me at least have the decency to be right. Midna had nothing to do with it you revisionist asshat. Even Urban dictionary has listings a year or two after TP came out that still state definitively that shortstacks are stacked you fricking idiot. It's literally half of the portmanteau.
being a perma-e-girl is different from being a midget.
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Dahl fits the former rather than the latter. That’s the whole deal homie.
>“Oh I wish I had an adult life and to be treated as such”
>next episode later she has an adult life and is treated with respect and dignity
>next episode later she has an adult life and is treated with respect and dignity
Her first scene in that episode had her get mocked relentlessly by a tourist and resulted in a mental break.
She's only faking maturity for the sake of holding down a job and staying out of jail. In private, she surrounds herself with kiddie toys and props because it's still the only thing she truly knows.
Why isn't she more popular with diapergays?
I bet she has problems with bladder control.
Imagine her wearing a diaper to the bar for when she has to "break the seal" a drink and a half in
Do you think she wets the bed?
Even if she wanted to be anonymous and not cash in on the pedo market she could put on a mascot costume and make porn and become a billionaire overnight from the furgay market. She could bodypaint as Midna and release a VR video and buy a fricking mansion.
>She could bodypaint as Midna
Honestly surprised this hasn't been done yet. Seems like it, and her cosplaying random short characters in general, would be more common for her fan art.
I could have sworn I had seen someone do a Midna cosplay Dahl.
Yeah, it certainly sounds like something someone would have done. Not seeing anything like it on any of the usual sites though.
I know it popped up on a Cinemaphile thread, so maybe gotta check the boorus?
Found it!
Nice. She's pretty built perfectly for the costume. Gives me a hankering for the opposite as well. Or just the two of them together. They could possibly bond over how people are into their unique physiques.
I once heard of an actual case where a 5-year-old was pregnant.Somehow the guy got off On the charges he was charged with for being the dad.
In fairness, that episode is from the Kids WB season which gets rid of all the pathos in favor of generic action. I don't even consider it a part of the same series, despite the fact those episodes show up on the DVD sets.
>gets rid of all the pathos in favor of generic action.
People who say this are running off 25 year old memories and still salty about the design changes. Some of the most pathos driven episodes are from TNBA
Are you one of the bat-rankings guys? I never did understand why they liked that little girl clayface episode so much.
What the frick is bat-rankings? Some zoomed YouTube shit? That episode has been considered great since I got into online fandom in the early 2000s
It's a podcast. They love that episode. Actually, they love all the little girl episodes, weirdly enough. Not a fan, personally.
It's probably some podcast with like 50 regular listeners you stumbled upon and since you missed the old era of online discourse it's your only frame of reference for how that episode is regarded.
Yeah it's a pretty lame podcast. They really like those shitty TNBA episodes a lot. They rank the little girl one as their #1 episode.
Annie is cute, but i feel her design it a bit too different from how girls/women are normally drawn in the Batman series.
I don't want to say she's too "anime-y", but... she kinda is
i mean, this episode was directed by someone at ghibli at the time
(ngl tho the design could definitely work for a DCAU cassandra cain; if we're visualizing WDb's lady shiva story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8GB0Mi9kHI&pp=ygURYmF0bWFuIGxhZHkgc2hpdmE%3D(
Also in fairness, the Kids WB season and the entire rest of the DCAU ignores BTAS.
>Growing Pains
It threw away Clayface's one tragic aspect in that he was mutated against his will and wanted to be cured, instead turning him into a generic monster who revels in his power.
>I don't even consider it a part of the same series, despite the fact those episodes show up on the DVD sets.
I don't agree entirely with the first part, but this I do. Mostly because I don't want to think that BTAS Bruce ends up as TNAS/DCAU/Beyond Bruce.
They also gave the Clock King actual time powers instead of just being an autist
What? No. You guys are running off decaying memories .
You’re thinking of a JLU episode with a different guy. Clock king had a cameo in the Task Force x episode
There was that BTAS episode where Clock King gets a device that stops all time in Gotham.
I like the idea of her being a low level metahuman whose superpowers is just looking young and having zero health risks.
So do you think Mary can get pregnant?
She'd be completely immobilized if she could
Rewatched the episode recently. She looks normal until she's in motion. The whole point is that all it took to set her off is some drunk guy noticing
OP is a moron.
She doesn't pass as "normal." Nobody is ever going to look at her and think she's an average Jane, and even then that's not entirely what she wanted. She wanted to be a respected serious actress. She has about as much of a chance of that as Gary Coleman did.
>She wanted to be a respected serious actress.
And we saw how that went in her debut episode where Robin watches tapes of her in King Lear and calls it worse than being captured by Poison Ivy.
Yeah but what does that butthole know about theater.
Yeah but it’s shown she could literally me accepted into the fold if she tried.
You know Bruce forces him to read Shakespeare biweekly.
>Yeah but it’s shown she could literally me accepted into the fold
What fold? What are you talking about?
She wants to be a serious actress, and she's pigeonholed like Gary Coleman.
Warrick Davis got very specific parts. "Short alien/magic person."
Peter Dinkladge's very legitimate career came well after BTAS. He's a recent phenomenon.
Counterpoint,imagine Peter Dinklage as a cute girl. Just play the civil rights card appeal to the right weirdos and BOOM!
>that pic
nah twilight is still trash even in this context. But I get it
That's worse, with Twilight I can disregard it as "bitches amirite" but with reverselight I know for a fact Jacoba is best girl and Bello is a homosexual for choosing Edwina.
Also Peter Dinklage spent his whole career avoiding "Dwarf parts" and still has a massive hang up about his whole fricking life to the point he told his Hometown to eat shit when they wanted to celebrate him.
Peter Dinklage is a grade A jackass whose "crusade" against discrimination is really just grandstanding to mask the fact he's pulling up the ladder after he got to the top.
How kinky is Mary Dahl?
If she went around looking like this you can't convince me there isn't at least one non-pedo who would frick and marry her
I know I would.
>vertically challenged
ya mean a midge?
Hell, the part about her condition making it hard to get work has lost almost all of its punch in modern times. There are a fair number of well respected dwarf actors such as Peter Dinklage, Warrick Davis, and Meredith Eaton. It's really little wonder Mary isn't used very much, cause while her original episode was great, it's somewhat outdated now.
We still have washed up actors/actresses even if they don’t have a physical disability
She has somewhat limited story potential since they aren’t really going to have her plan a israeliteel heist or run some gang
After Dinklage's last egotrip speech it may be another long dry spell for dwarf actors before they see non-comedy roles again.
Those Dinklage egotrips coupled with how he tries to keep other dwarf actors down under the guise of defending their dignity actually sound like something Mary would do if she ever managed to get her acting career going again
>she can easily pass as a normal vertically challenged woman
Doesn’t a dude in that same scene recognize her as a washed up has been celebrity who famously is an adult woman stuck in a baby body, and then he harasses her over it? Like, maybe up to that point, her day was going pretty normal. It’s nice that she could obtain that normal job. But I remember that whole scene illustrating that she can’t have a totally normal life even if she tries, and it seemed to serve as an example of how she is constantly reminded of that in her regular day to day.
I mean counterpoint that happens with hundreds of people two but they don’t go back to being gimmick perps. The fact she had such a cushy and quiet job in Gotham says a lot lol.
Would Mary be into daddy/daughter play?
Also, the sheer amount of people who simp for her in real life make it hard to take Mary's plight seriously. You're not about to tell me folks in the DC universe are rejecting her out of hand. I will rightly call you a liar. I promise you that supervillains have in-universe fanbases.
It's kind of like how Jack Sparrow is this charismatic and beloved character to the audience but in-universe everyone seems like they're annoyed, weirded out, or they're just barely tolerating him. Similar thing with Heath Ledger's Joker.
1)popular fetishes changed in the last 20 years, hell last 10 years.
Midna alone got a lot of people into small, non-e-girl girls. Some of you guys weren't around when small girls were considered undesirable. Timm and company are even older so naturally they write with those standards in mind.
2) she doesn't want someone who has a fetish for her. She wants to be treated with how she feels a normal person would be.
Do you think Bruce Timm created every character and wrote every episode?
Imagine how hard it must be to live in a tiny body like that
Didn't expect one to be on a stage like that. That's honestly pretty impressive.
Yeah, I'm very hard, thinking about being in that tiny body.
>I like how Bruce Timm is such a coomer
Yeah, me too. He's alright sometimes
>she can easily pass as a normal vertically challenged woman
anon, stop reading shortstack porn
It's amazing, isn't it? Just wish more fan art of her used that size difference.
Give me pics of Mary.
It was a tragic story that took place in some shithole but it is pretty famous
because 8-10 years old is like danger zone-bare minimum age for fertility to be possible
but i refuse to believe in what little i'm aware of in human biology that even at 5 years old that can happen
frickin Cinemaphile japes arent gonna make me look stupid again
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lina_Medina
Man that's rough
If you mean her New Adventures redesign, yes.
But it's pretty explicit in her debut episode that she's indistinguishable from a 4-7 year old girl until she drops her voice.
The New Adventures has a lot of things wrong. This is one of them.
>completely undermines Baby Doll’s tragedy by proving she can easily pass as a normal vertically challenged woman
That wasn't her problem, she wanted to continue being an actress but because of her body everyone else kept seeing her as only Baby Doll, which in turn caused her to think of herself as being only Baby Doll.
To be fair, who wants to see designs of ugly women in a show like BTAS
I hope she's made out of some stretchy stuff because I would show no mercy
If she were this curvy and blatantly just a tiny adult woman like a gnome from a fantasy setting, I'd be 100% on board
Baby Doll was never a good character.
GOD, I WANT TO FRICK BABYDOLL
I NEED THIS SMALL BALL OF PURE SEX WARMING MY LAP
So does she actually look like a toddler or would she look like a normal adult dwarf woman if she dressed in regular clothes?
She has an exceedingly rare genetic condition that stopped her body aging in all aspects but her voice, which she does a falsetto for to retain the childlike aspect. In the moments where she speaks normally, she sounds her age (in her thirties).
She tried to break into regular dramatic acting, but was unable to find success as nobody would take her childish appearance seriously. It's not a mere matter of attire. So, eventually she broke down completely and tried to get her 'happy little family' from TV back.
He’s drawn real art of supergirl and this somehow got in one episode as batgirl is riding on her
NOOO NOT A PANTY SHOT OH MY GOD WILL SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREEEEEEEEEEEN
QUICK
besides her origin ; pitch me a done in one” comic book story where Baby Doll plays an important and crucial part
She should be on Suicide squad