If it makes you feel any better, the studio agrees. They rejected an infinitely better Jan De Bont/Terry Rossio/Stan Winston version for this shit only because they feared it would cost too much but Emmerich ended up going overbudget so they destroyed their one golden opportunity for nothing lmao.
A bit like Legendary version except simplified. The main villain is a monster called Gryphon and humans pick on Godzilla not realizing that he's there to save them. What I don't like is that his origins include some alien bioengineering but other than that it's like an updated, gritty version of the heroic Godzilla. Elements from it were later used in 90s Gamera or at least the third one with one of the characters blaming Godzilla for everything and becoming like Captain Ahab until the end.
Emmerich's turn might be the biggest downgrade (and biggest wasted opportunity) of the decade.But now it's a justifiably hated footnote and the Godzilla franchise is stronger than ever so Emmerich can suck it.
The finished design looks like Godzilla. I'm not happy with the colors and a few details but both this and the movie would've been infinitely better than the absolute garbage we got. Thank God it's not considered a legitimate Godzilla movie so something else can be at the bottom of the list.
Dude this looks awful. It's literally just a giant dinosaur with Godzilla sails.
I don't like how they made him look like an alligator. Legendary Godzilla to some degree too. People adapting Godzilla seem to not realize that his skin texture is supposed to be keloid scarring.
From fans, critics, casual audience and people who paid to make this movie. If it was a Godzilla movie it would be in bottom 3 or 5. As a monster movie it's sitll like 3/10. You might as well claim you love whatever's the newest Hollywood flop.
lmao hahahaa who are you trying to fool, tourists? Are you really pretending to like this worthless movie that got fricking disinherited by everyone or do you lack taste and feel some nostalgia for bad movies? And are angry that there are some foreign movies with genuine fans that you don't get and never seen?
I thought it was a fine American take on Godzilla. Really more of a giant dinosaur film than a Godzilla film, but you can't expect Americans to get everything right.
It's like 40 minutes too long. Because it was made by people with no talent and contempt for the source material it's somewhere on the level of forgetable movies like Congo or Twister. Maybe below that.
Contempt, yes. You think Emmerich pretended he doesn't hate Godzilla and didn't want to make this movie? It was Devlin's idea. And Devlin to this day is mentally scarred by this movie. They all got what they deserve.
He said that the ending has no meaning for the audience because there was zero build up. Godzilla is nothing in this movie. Neither a scary killing machine like the shark from Jaws nor a monster with genuine pathos or character like Godzilla (the real one), King Kong, Gill-Man etc. In fact the final scene ripped off the same scene from 1976 King Kong. It was too little too late. An inexplicable scene in a garbage film. Three years before real creative people showed how to properly kill a real Godzilla and create genuine emotions.
Overall, I'd say it had a good effect on the franchise. It spurred Toho into making movies again, and the animated series is probably the best non-movie godzilla media
It's unknown when Toho was planning on resuming the franchise. Could've been 1999 or 2004 but we know that if the original (and superior in every conceivable way) Rossio project had been made everything would be different now. From late Heisei onwards not a single thing would've been the same. Different movies, directors, Godzilla's position in popular culture. We don't know if for better or for worse but it's the biggest what if of the franchise.
>It's unknown when Toho was planning on resuming the franchise
That's true, but it's well known that the disaster of the Emmerich film accelerated whatever what was planned
It's funny how these threads always have shitty bait like that . "I-it's better I swear" because everyone, absolutely everyone even the executives of the studio that produced it, know it's worthless and wasted opportunity of a lifetime. These threads only enforce that the bait is a highly unpopular idea and Emmerich's shit is somewhere on the level of his 10,000 BC movie or his other generic disaster films.
It's funny how these threads always have shitty bait like that . "I-it's better I swear" because everyone, absolutely everyone even the executives of the studio that produced it, know it's worthless and wasted opportunity of a lifetime. These threads only enforce that the bait is a highly unpopular idea and Emmerich's shit is somewhere on the level of his 10,000 BC movie or his other generic disaster films.
Reminder that even extras on the film voiced their disbelief and disappointment lmao. This is movie that like five people like or pretend to like. But I know there's at least one guy who's a fan of this movie and shitposts on twitter some crappy DeviantArt fanart and just writes "this is Godzilla" lmao. Imagine being a fan of something that was made from the position of utter contempt of the source material. Something that has nothing but generic setting and a generic big animal compared to the world of like 60 movies with monsters, mythology, sci fi tech and so on.
The iconic design is ugly. Godzilla 1998 looks much better.
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lmao hahahaa who are you trying to fool, tourists? Are you really pretending to like this worthless movie that got fricking disinherited by everyone or do you lack taste and feel some nostalgia for bad movies? And are angry that there are some foreign movies with genuine fans that you don't get and never seen?
Cope. Godzilla is a extremely comercial franchise with just a few decent movies.
You know that you're not fooling anyone with this bait? Pretending to unironically like movies that everybody knows are awful is just boring. We've all seen it done better before.
When it came out on video they had it playing on the TV at school during the end of the semester and one of the slightly moronic kids from my neighborhood flipped out on it and said it was awesome, and knowing I was a Godzilla fan, he asked for more. I lent him Godzilla 2000 and explained to him that it would be different, and he brought it back with a "meh" and didn't care about Godzilla anymore.
It's like people in college who I lent both versions of Dawn of the Dead to and they came back saying the remake was miles better because the zombies can run.
>all those scenes where Ebert and Roeper are mayors of New York >all those dumb Simpsons VA cameos >EVERYONE STILL INSIDE THE CITY DESPITE THE BIG ASS MONSTER >THE MILITARY CAN'T CATCH THE MONSTER UNDERNEATH THE CITY >THE FRICKING FRENCH HAVE TO BAIL THE AMERICANS OUT
Roland Emmerich and his boyfriend who co-wrote the screenplay are homosexuals.
I got bored about 30 minutes into the X Files movie and walked across the hallway and watched Godzilla instead. I still have my big Godzilla popcorn bucket from then somewhere too.
I didn’t like that Godzilla is just basically a giant velociraptor. He has no weight thus I can’t take it serious as a monster who destroys the city and it’s pretty obvious they wanted capitalize on the dino craze without trying too hard and in the laziest way possible
The 2014 murican movie is the only good Godzilla movie and I don't understand why so many boomers jerk off this horrid schlock. Millennials are weird. Literally will put anything from the 90s on a pedestal no matter what.
Imagine preferring some random moronic looking dinosaur that's not even male over this absolute gigachad https://youtu.be/AkcfB3z0_-0
TBD (Total Boomer Death)
>two+ hour film >only eight minutes of godzilla onscreen
frick this dumpster fire. i'd watch zilla '99 a dozen times again before sitting through this fricking slog again
I'm a latecomer to real Godzilla; I watched all the movies like last year. They're great. I loved the Emmerich movie as a kid. I watched the cartoon, had a bunch of toys, etc. But if you watch this film as an adult and seriously want to argue that it's anything but shit, you have brain damage. Even disregarding its place in a franchise, as a standalone film it is utter trash.
Make it like 30-45 minutes long. Let's say an episode of some sci fi anthology show, limit the characters to like three (and keep most of the Jean Reno scenes) and it can work as a by the numbers monster on the loose story. It has no bussiness being this long with so many comic relief characters.
The comic relief stuff might be the most superficially heinous aspect of the movie. Every other scene is someone being a silly little goofball. It's insulting even to children.
>that’s a lot of fish
Literally one of the funniest movie moments in history. The timing, everything. I laughed so hard and so long in the theaters they had to kick me out. I didn’t even get to finish it. Just another testament to how great it is. I’m laughing right now
It's a Nostalgia Critic thing. No one remembers. Before G'98 was a forgotten curiosity that's kind of like a lesson in how not to approach a popular IP from abroad, it was pretty popular to shit on it.
The size of Godzilla fluctuate between huge and small. In one scene he's able to bear hug the empire state building then in another he's forty stories high.
Loved this movie as a kid among all the other originals. That year my mom made me a Godzilla Halloween costume. I had all the toys from that movie which were all fun as frick
I mostly enjoy the movie now for Jean Reno. It is painfully obvious to me now that they just wanted the Jurassic park crowd
Cool, still garbage
If it makes you feel any better, the studio agrees. They rejected an infinitely better Jan De Bont/Terry Rossio/Stan Winston version for this shit only because they feared it would cost too much but Emmerich ended up going overbudget so they destroyed their one golden opportunity for nothing lmao.
Tl;Dr on the rejected version?
A bit like Legendary version except simplified. The main villain is a monster called Gryphon and humans pick on Godzilla not realizing that he's there to save them. What I don't like is that his origins include some alien bioengineering but other than that it's like an updated, gritty version of the heroic Godzilla. Elements from it were later used in 90s Gamera or at least the third one with one of the characters blaming Godzilla for everything and becoming like Captain Ahab until the end.
Emmerich's turn might be the biggest downgrade (and biggest wasted opportunity) of the decade.But now it's a justifiably hated footnote and the Godzilla franchise is stronger than ever so Emmerich can suck it.
*turd
>the Godzilla franchise is stronger than ever
No?
Yes it is and it's not even close. In every possible objective way starting with brand awareness and profits. Also availability etc.
As much as I like this design, I think the script they went for in the final version if superior
Dude this looks awful. It's literally just a giant dinosaur with Godzilla sails.
The finished design looks like Godzilla. I'm not happy with the colors and a few details but both this and the movie would've been infinitely better than the absolute garbage we got. Thank God it's not considered a legitimate Godzilla movie so something else can be at the bottom of the list.
I don't like how they made him look like an alligator. Legendary Godzilla to some degree too. People adapting Godzilla seem to not realize that his skin texture is supposed to be keloid scarring.
>size DOES matter
also this poster made Zilla look way huger and cooler than it actually was
>That's a lotta fish
Only good Godzilla movie
Hard agree
It's from purists and people that want to act like they are
From fans, critics, casual audience and people who paid to make this movie. If it was a Godzilla movie it would be in bottom 3 or 5. As a monster movie it's sitll like 3/10. You might as well claim you love whatever's the newest Hollywood flop.
same, I don't really get the hate
Yeah, me neither.
Especially when worse Godzilla movies exist and people pretend they are "so bad they become good".
True, 90% of Godzilla movies are awful.
lmao hahahaa who are you trying to fool, tourists? Are you really pretending to like this worthless movie that got fricking disinherited by everyone or do you lack taste and feel some nostalgia for bad movies? And are angry that there are some foreign movies with genuine fans that you don't get and never seen?
You look like you're angry. Drink some water and take a deep breath.
loved it when i was 12 years old. even bought the soundtrack:
Brain Stew (The Godzilla Remix)
Most underrated track on the album
This music video is too fricking cool for Godzilla '98.
Its better than cringe of the monsters and GvsK
I like it too but you know it's dumb as frick
I thought it was a fine American take on Godzilla. Really more of a giant dinosaur film than a Godzilla film, but you can't expect Americans to get everything right.
>uh huh yeah
It's what I say for Fallout 4, good game just awful Fallout game. Good movie just awful Godzilla movie.
It's like 40 minutes too long. Because it was made by people with no talent and contempt for the source material it's somewhere on the level of forgetable movies like Congo or Twister. Maybe below that.
>artistic freedom is... le contempt
Contempt, yes. You think Emmerich pretended he doesn't hate Godzilla and didn't want to make this movie? It was Devlin's idea. And Devlin to this day is mentally scarred by this movie. They all got what they deserve.
>the movie doesn't tell the audiences how to feel
Damn R*ddit, how can I even enjoy a movie like this?
He said that the ending has no meaning for the audience because there was zero build up. Godzilla is nothing in this movie. Neither a scary killing machine like the shark from Jaws nor a monster with genuine pathos or character like Godzilla (the real one), King Kong, Gill-Man etc. In fact the final scene ripped off the same scene from 1976 King Kong. It was too little too late. An inexplicable scene in a garbage film. Three years before real creative people showed how to properly kill a real Godzilla and create genuine emotions.
KWAB
I remember when that puff daddy video played nonstop on MTV
Oh you mean this one
kino
I WANNA FIGHT YOU
I'LL FRICKIN BITE YOU
CAN'T STAND NOBODY LIKE YOU
Overall, I'd say it had a good effect on the franchise. It spurred Toho into making movies again, and the animated series is probably the best non-movie godzilla media
It's unknown when Toho was planning on resuming the franchise. Could've been 1999 or 2004 but we know that if the original (and superior in every conceivable way) Rossio project had been made everything would be different now. From late Heisei onwards not a single thing would've been the same. Different movies, directors, Godzilla's position in popular culture. We don't know if for better or for worse but it's the biggest what if of the franchise.
>It's unknown when Toho was planning on resuming the franchise
That's true, but it's well known that the disaster of the Emmerich film accelerated whatever what was planned
Same, it was FUN, based 1998 dabbing on the seething japs
Holy shit what a turd.
ITS THE BEST GODZILLA MOVIE AND ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE
best godzilla movie ever made, japanese films look like some guy 9n a fursuit, and the new american one looked like a fat ass.
It's funny how these threads always have shitty bait like that . "I-it's better I swear" because everyone, absolutely everyone even the executives of the studio that produced it, know it's worthless and wasted opportunity of a lifetime. These threads only enforce that the bait is a highly unpopular idea and Emmerich's shit is somewhere on the level of his 10,000 BC movie or his other generic disaster films.
Bait on Cinemaphile is the only place you'll see people saying Godzilla 98 is the best movie kek.
Because no one seriously believes it. If anyone did they wouldn't be making these insecure threads.
Based
Cope
Same. I had a Godzilla lunchbox and thermos, t-shirt, vhs tape of course, and a couple toys. The elevator scene with the popcorn gave me nightmares.
Most people did, only queer israeli protohipsters b***hed about it the way they b***hed about the swansong of American Supremacy: Armageddon.
The movie hits different after 9/11.
thanks doc
Me too.
I liked that it was just a giant animal acting like a giant animal.
Reminder that even extras on the film voiced their disbelief and disappointment lmao. This is movie that like five people like or pretend to like. But I know there's at least one guy who's a fan of this movie and shitposts on twitter some crappy DeviantArt fanart and just writes "this is Godzilla" lmao. Imagine being a fan of something that was made from the position of utter contempt of the source material. Something that has nothing but generic setting and a generic big animal compared to the world of like 60 movies with monsters, mythology, sci fi tech and so on.
>generic big animal
But... the design is much better than the original japanese design, which is just a goofy plastic suit.
No, homosexual. No, it isn't. It's just some ugly turd. Try making that an iconic design.
The iconic design is ugly. Godzilla 1998 looks much better.
Cope. Godzilla is a extremely comercial franchise with just a few decent movies.
You know that you're not fooling anyone with this bait? Pretending to unironically like movies that everybody knows are awful is just boring. We've all seen it done better before.
When it came out on video they had it playing on the TV at school during the end of the semester and one of the slightly moronic kids from my neighborhood flipped out on it and said it was awesome, and knowing I was a Godzilla fan, he asked for more. I lent him Godzilla 2000 and explained to him that it would be different, and he brought it back with a "meh" and didn't care about Godzilla anymore.
It's like people in college who I lent both versions of Dawn of the Dead to and they came back saying the remake was miles better because the zombies can run.
he didn't like it because G2K is boring as frick
The Apache scene made me want to become an Apache pilot
I eventually did, thanks Gojira
It's Gojeera, you moron. Seriously, congrats, tho
I will forever associate this film with Jimmy Page selling out and the weirdly strong popularity "Zilla" has with scalies.
>all those scenes where Ebert and Roeper are mayors of New York
>all those dumb Simpsons VA cameos
>EVERYONE STILL INSIDE THE CITY DESPITE THE BIG ASS MONSTER
>THE MILITARY CAN'T CATCH THE MONSTER UNDERNEATH THE CITY
>THE FRICKING FRENCH HAVE TO BAIL THE AMERICANS OUT
Roland Emmerich and his boyfriend who co-wrote the screenplay are homosexuals.
I got bored about 30 minutes into the X Files movie and walked across the hallway and watched Godzilla instead. I still have my big Godzilla popcorn bucket from then somewhere too.
Cant remember the movie but I enjoy Godzilla's design.
I didn’t like that Godzilla is just basically a giant velociraptor. He has no weight thus I can’t take it serious as a monster who destroys the city and it’s pretty obvious they wanted capitalize on the dino craze without trying too hard and in the laziest way possible
The 2014 murican movie is the only good Godzilla movie and I don't understand why so many boomers jerk off this horrid schlock. Millennials are weird. Literally will put anything from the 90s on a pedestal no matter what.
>expecting anything but dumb fun from fricking Godzilla
You’re a midwit. Too dumb to leave video games and monsters and need them to have epic drama
Imagine preferring some random moronic looking dinosaur that's not even male over this absolute gigachad https://youtu.be/AkcfB3z0_-0
TBD (Total Boomer Death)
>two+ hour film
>only eight minutes of godzilla onscreen
frick this dumpster fire. i'd watch zilla '99 a dozen times again before sitting through this fricking slog again
The 2014 one is a millenial approach to godzilla. But yeah, it's not bad.
One of the best IMAX experiences I had, my ears were ringing for days after
I'm a latecomer to real Godzilla; I watched all the movies like last year. They're great. I loved the Emmerich movie as a kid. I watched the cartoon, had a bunch of toys, etc. But if you watch this film as an adult and seriously want to argue that it's anything but shit, you have brain damage. Even disregarding its place in a franchise, as a standalone film it is utter trash.
Make it like 30-45 minutes long. Let's say an episode of some sci fi anthology show, limit the characters to like three (and keep most of the Jean Reno scenes) and it can work as a by the numbers monster on the loose story. It has no bussiness being this long with so many comic relief characters.
The comic relief stuff might be the most superficially heinous aspect of the movie. Every other scene is someone being a silly little goofball. It's insulting even to children.
There. Much better.
>that’s a lot of fish
Literally one of the funniest movie moments in history. The timing, everything. I laughed so hard and so long in the theaters they had to kick me out. I didn’t even get to finish it. Just another testament to how great it is. I’m laughing right now
It's a Nostalgia Critic thing. No one remembers. Before G'98 was a forgotten curiosity that's kind of like a lesson in how not to approach a popular IP from abroad, it was pretty popular to shit on it.
Why is Zilla bigger on the poster than he was in the movie?
This. He’s like 40-60 feet tall and everyone acts like he’s a threat to humanity
The size of Godzilla fluctuate between huge and small. In one scene he's able to bear hug the empire state building then in another he's forty stories high.
I actually enjoyed 1998's Godzilla way more than any other Godzilla movie.
As a movie, it is way more entertaining.
>O'NEIL!
Loved this movie as a kid among all the other originals. That year my mom made me a Godzilla Halloween costume. I had all the toys from that movie which were all fun as frick
I mostly enjoy the movie now for Jean Reno. It is painfully obvious to me now that they just wanted the Jurassic park crowd
IM GOING DEEPER UNDERGROUND