Did you know the Chinese made one of these called Sky Fighters / Lock Destination or something like that? In it, the protagonist plays entirely by the rules, the CCP are shown to be the best at literally everything, everyone is in uniform all the time - the love interest is just a dutiful military wife - and everything is done by the book throughout lmao. It's unbelievably boring and I don't know how you make jets dull but they did it. They even ripped top gun scene by scene
>the Chinese are making a shitty knockoff of a great American thing
anon I’m not really surprised. they’re like an ant colony over there. they have no souls.
They should really stop making those fricking gay commercials to join the military and instead fund movies like this. Probably way more effective and non-zogbots like me can still get some entertainment out of them. I bet a lot of people enlisted in the air force because of the first movie.
America's industrial base, coupled with it's military, is why you rule the world. Enrages me to see so many Americans lacking a basic understanding of why the entirety of Western Civilisation is compelled to align itself with you
Weird post, it’ll be neo confederates and no one else “against the wall,” lol. Take that untreated schizophrenic rage leave
2 years ago
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Weaboo virgin freak. You were picked last at school and nobody wants you on their team now
2 years ago
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>quoting a character from the most popular video game of the playstation 1 era while on a board dedicated to appreciation of media makes me a weeb
No, you’re just a frothing loonie. Take that “day of the rope” shit somewhere else, Salvador Ramos.
2 years ago
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>these mental gymnastics
Post your hand then hard man
2 years ago
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Only a poltard cares about shit like this but here you go nutter butter
2 years ago
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>posting and quoting cartoons at your age >nutter butter
have a nice day
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>Strongest military in the world >Doesn't use it to conquer and subjugate entire countries >Instead uses the hypocritical message of "spreading democracy" while siphoning resources from backwoods shitholes
Dishonest warmongering
>>Doesn't use it to conquer and subjugate entire countries
Because it can't. America is a paper tiger. It's sole reason for being is to enrich its oligarchs. It cannot do anything else.
>paper tiger
is that why we sat on Iraq and Afghanistan for 20 years before getting bored and just left? I don't remember the Taliban/others doing anything from a military standpoint to make us leave..
The American military is not designed to be a police force. If it went back RIGHT NOW it could accomplish what it was designed to do, conquer the official military and government of a nation. This building schools shit is like putting a lion in a circus act.
the US military is designed to make money for the people who make the weaponry that the military uses, nothing more nothing less, the goal was never to win but to keep sales high. Since the mid seventies the world has not been run by nations but by 'the market' and national interests are either tangentially related to market goals or outright decided by the 'free market'
Oh no a one off strike on an open air field and a drone strike on a single person that’s just as bad as turning Libya into a failed state. Trump ended the war in Afghanistan it was his peace deal and was the only president that got along with North Korea
>his peace deal
that the taliban promptly broke and he kept delaying the exit date until after his presidency to avoid a PR nightmare like what happened with Biden
Yeah, remember what North Korea did when Obama was in office? Boy, that country really did a lot back then, but thankfully they stopped it when Trump was president.
>you need to conquer a country and paint the map in your colors
literal Black personmutt enslaved by cnn propaganda, what is Syria, Lybia and Iraq dumbfrick?
You are the conquered one goblino
fricking this. russians are dying like flies trying to conquer some shithole in ukraine and meanwhile USA just got 2 new servants in form of (super rich) finland and sweden
look what happened to the so called "second strongest military in the world" when it entered a conventional war. stuck in some shithole right across the border for months on end.
Why do mutts think K/D ratios and early gains in the opening stages of an invasion are the only thing that matters in wars?
You idiots lost to third world rice farmers and goat herders because you suck at projecting power and achieving basic strategic goals.
US has strongest army in the history of mankind and not only that, but among other things it specializes in blitzkrieg like integrated strike missions. Russia cant afford that. They have enough money to change rocket fuel on nuclear balistic missiles (left from Stalins time) every couple of years or so. The rest is literally paper tiger
Doesn't need to. America is probably the single most difficult state to invade that has ever existed. That's why the Soviets put all their efforts into bringing you down from within, and it looks like they succeeded.
I'm no fan of America/ns by any means but if you fall, Europe will face an Armageddon of warfare from all directions. Get your shit together and stop toppling states in the ME, they protect us by proxy, whether intentionally or not
Assuming you don't live on the Americas or in Europe then yeah it's not your problem. If you do live on one of these continents then we're all on the same team by neccessity
>Why don't they declare war like to everyone...right?
If that were the case "America" would be a big nuclear wasteland and no, Donnie T magic powers would not save you from radiation.
>>Instead uses the hypocritical message of "spreading democracy" while siphoning resources from backwoods shitholes
Exactly what resources has America siphoned from the places we've invaded? Did we get petroleum from Iraq? How about rare earth minerals from Afghanistan? It's more like we use those wars to launder American tax payer money to globohomosexual corporations. America's government is corrupt to the level of ancient Rome but America is also a benevolent hegemon that has maintained the Western liberal democratic world order and as a result created the most peaceful and prosperous era in history. This is due almost entirely to America with minor help from western, northern, central Europe, Australia and Canada.
I will grant you that "spreading democracy" is a fricking moronic narrative. Clearly you can't just give sandBlack folk and goatfrickers democracy and expect them to become civilized. Given the choice they'd elect Islamists just like Egypt did after the Arab Spring.
We need a fricking WEBM of the ground to air missiles where at some point shit is just one big clusterfrick of confusion and radio chatter. It only lasts 2 seconds or something but I heard some audible Holy Fricks in my theatre
The biggest “holy frick” in my theatre came when that SU-57 stopped on a dime, turned, dodged the missile/guns, and came straight back in. Came before Goose and Maverick even got their “what the frick was that” moment.
What was the point of being in Vietnam. Every minute we spent there was a minute we created more things to fight. Vietnam was a mistake it's time you stop trying to act like it wasn't.
>What was the point of being in Vietnam.
The point was to prove to the Europeans, especially the French, that USA was willing to sacrifice blood and treasure to defend an ally (South Vietnam) from hostile invaders. The French were playing with the idea of ending NATO in order to form some kind of servile compromise with the Soviets. They often claimed that the US's security guarantees to Europe would not be enforced in the time of need. "The US has troops in Europe. They do not have cities in Europe. When the fighting starts, the Americans will leave". The American War in Vietnam was a gesture to the Europeans, "look what we're willing to do in defense of a worthless piece of shit like South Vietnam. Now imagine how much more we'd do to defend an actually valuable ally like Western Europe."
There were many ironies in that era. One irony was that, despite America losing the War in Vietnam, definitively; the actual goal of appeasing the Europeans worked, and NATO survived. Another irony being that independent, unified, communist Vietnam was immediately invaded by communist China after the USA left. Also kind of ironic, or maybe just hypocritical; that France was very vocally opposed to the USA's war in their former colony "French Indochina", but in reality, deeply reassured by America's actions.
The US operates an empire, this empire is based on tremendous military strength.
The military industrial complex is an irrelevant sideshow, the reality is that American financial and industrial power is based on concessions secured by it's military, money invested there is not wasted.
To think that the US spending money on it's military can only be a result of corruption is to be fundamentally ignorant of America's place in the world.
When people in the US complain about the military industrial complex, they are in effect complaining that the US military is not efficient enough (in their view) in it's job of policing empire.
The US was able to leave Vietnam because they made a deal with the Chinese, and the Chinese were effectively completely alienated from the USSR from that point on.
The US no longer needed to check sino-soviet expansion in East Asia, because they would both readily check each other.
>to defend an ally (South Vietnam) from hostile invaders
you do realize south vietnam was a puppet state created by the US? Vietnamese overwhelmingly showed support for Ho chi minh and other leader figures both during french, japanese and american occupation
This kind of delusion is how you get shit like afghanistan
i feel the need...
the need to make my movie pander to the chinese communist party by removing any and all mentions and references to taiwan from my iconic jacket
Correct, constant warfare is what keeps the US ahead of everyone else technologically. You would be very unhappy if the US were to ever stopped waging wars.
lol, the Soviets outspent the USA as a percentage of GDP. doesn't mean shit. DARPA projects were longshots by definition - the internet is survivorship bias. the french spent a shitload trying to invent airplanes, but burgers beat them to it. even theoretical succeseses don't always translate - see the 80's SDI ABM vs the current iron dome. trying to innovate is better than being stagnant, but failing to innovate is equivalent.
>100 days later >Russia controls less of Ukraine than 30 days into the war >tens of thousands dead >useless strip of land in Donbas is all they have to show for it
Pathetic
I think the real reason was covid, and Tom Cruise refused to let it be a direct to streaming release. But yeah we can go with your reason that the movie was delayed for 2 years because of geopolitics
More specifically I think it stopped somewhere around 2012-2013. That seems to have been the tipping point for, in my memory, the majority of shit that has happened since. I’m not sure why it took a decade after 2001 to do it though.
Okay technically after the Cold War there was the threat of Islamic terrorism that united people especially after 9/11, but that threat has pretty much fizzled out in the 2010s and so you get both right and left wing extremists fricking everything up in our country. Things were still best for our country during the Cold War years and the the 90s after that for a brief period. Things started going to hell back in the 00s.
>"America has an arms problem! We shouldn't have this many weapons!" >"But we do need over a dozen four-star generals who do nothing on salary...JUST BECAUSE WE DO, OKAY!?"
This is not a war movie. The "mission" they were supposed to accomplish could have been accomplished with bunker busting, high precision missiles. This is to War Movies as Str Wars is to science fiction. TGM is military fantasy. And I think it's the best movie ever made.
Is there some dumb love triangle in the new Top Gun? Totally ruined the first one with their stupid romance tropes. >he was fighting for country >he was fighting for his life >she was the women who came between them
The military is an essence arm of any society, no less than health or education. If not for these men and those like them, foreign states and fighting men would destroy our homes and enslave or kill our families. Take a reality check homosexual, fighting is necessary for survival
>you act like the US isnt already enslaved, like its government doesn't care more about ukraine or saudi than its own people
I seethe every time I see a self-hating american who doesn't realize how great US is compared to the alternatives
i'm american, just don't think ukraine is worth $40 billion and i resent the fact that my quality of life is determined by my skin color and my dad's political affiliation
>i resent the fact that my quality of life is determined by my skin color and my dad's political affiliation
are you a white guy complaining about race? you're a giant homosexual you're failures are of your own making not your skin color.(include whatever other race you want with the same words i dont care)
Name another superpower where people have remotely similar civil rights and chances to prosper.
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>civil rights and chances to prosper.
that are rapidly going away if you haven't been paying attention
2 years ago
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Did I say that they weren't?
2 years ago
Anonymous
So you only shortsightedly cheer for whatever is currently the most beneficial to you, even if that current system is ultimately leading you to your doom?
2 years ago
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What the frick are you talking about? I'm not american. I'm saying that you have no idea how bad rest of the world is.
2 years ago
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I am American, America is nearly in free fall decline at this point. Western Europe is in a similar position. Boomers outsourced everything, imported everyone, and left us with nothing.
2 years ago
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>50s: america is in decline because of the soviets >60s: america is in decline because of anti war hippies >70s america is in decline because of the oil crisis >80s: america is in decline because of wall street >90s: america is in decline because of the european union >00s: america is in decline because of terrorism >10s: america is in decline because of cultural marxism
your doomer shit is getting really tiresome, nothing will ever stop the freedom train
2 years ago
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You don't see a clear decline from the 50's until now?
2 years ago
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no, america is a much better country now than it was in the 50s
2 years ago
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Lol
2 years ago
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>he watched too many black and white newsreels and coke commercials
2 years ago
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By what metric?
2 years ago
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reduced poverty, reduced political violence, increased personal liberties,
enfranchisement of women and minorities, affordable and accessible food and consumer goods,
increased consumer protection, the environmental protection act, no draft, low risk of nuclear war, reduced crime rate, better access to health care, reduced child mortality, increased life expectancy,
2 years ago
Anonymous
We made 13% of the population feel good better themselves at the expense of everyone else
2 years ago
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>people actually believe this
Mental, almost always runts too
2 years ago
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America has literally been in decline since 1945. If your top General says you're fighting on the wrong side, you probably are
2 years ago
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patton said this in regards to the soviets, how they posed a clear threat after ww2. he never said anything about american domestic politics
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He literally said we should either wipe the Germans from the face of the Earth and invade Russia immediately, or else ally with Germany and invade Russia immediately. Patton knew that advances in nuclear weapons and other military technology were about to level the playing field. The US could've taken the entire world on it's own in 1943. Today? No fricking way
2 years ago
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the american population wouldve never stood behind a war of aggression against the soviets, and it wouldve been a tough war coming right out of ww2. public opinion is a major factor in a democracy during wartime
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Would've been an easy war considering they had just mobilised the largest army in human history, had first access to nyclear missiles and were churning out a brand new aircraft carrier every month. America will never get an opening like that again
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and how to sell this to the american public? attack an ally that just helped defeat the nazis and japan, because? commie crimes werent really know back then, the iron curtain was already on the horizon but there was no clear threat coming from the soviets.
they didnt even plan to attack the western allies.
wiping the floor with a potential rival that just used to be your battle buddy paints a really bad picture.
the US wouldve very likely won in the end, but how to sell the additional million dead soldiers to the public?
2 years ago
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Fabricate something like you did for Iraq or Afghanistan
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that wouldve been one hell of a story to justify the pre-emptive drop of 30 nukes on soviet cities, killing millions of civilians instantly and then grinding all the way through war torn europe and even further to moscow, all while your population just wants to enjoy peace and prosperity after an already exhausting war
2 years ago
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Most of the Soviets fighting men were dead, any worthwhile military equipment came from the US. Experience was the only thing on their side and the Americans could've caught up fairly quickly. They didn't need to march all the way to Moscow like Hitler did, they could level the whole place from the skies, bombard every port from the sea, bully it's trading partners into submission or buy them out, and just wait
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again, its not about military power, which was clearly on the side of the americans. its about public appearances and the will of the people to carry on with this for no reason. attacking a former ally because they might be a rival in a decade is something the average person wont stand behind. they wouldve gutted harry truman in the streets if he dragged them into another war for no good reason.
the only way for this to have some kind of legitimacy is if the soviets attacked first, but they knew this was a stupid idea so they didnt
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>bully it's trading partners into submission or buy them out, and just wait
this actually happened immediately after ww2 though
the first part of your post is stupid and you never explained how you'd convince americans to want a war with their former allies
also use the right "its" next time esl
2 years ago
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Both of those are extremely poor examples. Even in 2001 people were hesitant to go to war, and that was against a no-name country in the middle east, not a supposed rising superpower that was an ally just years prior.
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Lol what? After 9/11 the entire American populace saw red and was howling for blood consistently for nearly a decade. The American reaction to a domestic attack was so extreme it bewildered Old World inhabitants who were more used to taking those kinds of hits. American citizens thought they were literally untouchable and when they saw they weren't they were more than willing to back a full scale invasion of anyone
2 years ago
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>he doesnt remember the largest peace protests in human history after the invasion of afganistan and iraq
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I remember them being drowned out by the roar of war mongering from millions of every day Americans, old ladies and little kids calling for heads to roll and bullets to fly. That kind of fervour is rare nowadays but even then it was a noticbly intense reaction
2 years ago
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Is america the mcu?
2 years ago
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You have no civil rights and even less chance to prosper. Keep on dreaming though my sweet circumcised golem. Just 2 more weeks trust the plan patriots.
2 years ago
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The area Americans lack real civil rights is Healthcare. In terms of personal defence and freedom of expression they embarrass the rest of the world.
If they actually care as a populace they can. The last war America really cared about on a ground level was against Japan, and they obliterated two large cities in seconds just to make a point. Threaten the mainland and Americans do not frick about
2 years ago
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>The last war America really cared about on a ground level was against Japan, and they obliterated two large cities in seconds just to make a point.
Are you one of those people who believe that the US beat Germany all by themselves in WW2?
2 years ago
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>reading comprehension
I deliberately never mentioned Germany. UK and USSR did most of the fighting, with America propping up the Soviet military at a profit
USA is still the best of all alternatives. For all the mockery you get from Europeans, if you ask the average Euro in a civil manner about the alternatives, including Europeans nations trying to take the lead again, most Euros are content to let America take the tip spot, and for us to take a supporting role as essentially a foothold or fortress outside the Americas
2 years ago
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>most Euros are content to let America take the tip spot
they're content to let americans pay for their defense with blood and money
a poor shithole that doesn't have business interests in ukraine
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France commits their Airforce, and the UK commits it's navy and infantry to American operations far more often than not. It makes news when one of these allies asserts it's independence
Its political sphere is, to an extent, beholden to the military; even with all the Marxist and Zionist infiltration the military is still it's own beast and always will be. >i dont have business interests in Ukraine
If you're an American you have a civil interest in Ukraine. Had Ukraine been steamrolled the Russians would've started eyeing up other territories in Europe and the Caucasus. The numerous states, organisations and groups hostile to the EU and USA would increase their operations with this new inspiration of confidence.
The second Western Europeans started feeling the heat and made a move against Russia, in seĺf-defence or otherwise, the USA has no choice but to pledge their full support on every level of society or lose face to the entire world.
Everyone and their grandmother knows you were only there for the money. America has had a vested interest in Europe since it's very conception and played this up massively during WWII, during the Marshall Plan, and every fricking day since. For the common man, by the USAs admission, Western Europe is America's best friend. If you let you best friend get hit and don't do anything to defend him, you're a little b***h and the wolves will smell fear
All fighting organisations appeal to the youth, young men are the best fighters and their mind are easier to break, and reshape. That's never going to change, even if there is now room for other demographics due to technology, war will always be fought by young men
>So you're telling me, if I sign this paper, I can be Top Gun, get to play topless beach volleyball with other ace pilots, and fly F-14s? >Air Force Recruiter: You got it! Just sign right here and the enlisted recruits bus will be waiting when you get out of the movie.
>They are actually recruiting kids at my theatre its fricking insane
dude its the chair force who cares, like if are out of high school and not going to college then the chair forces is 100 times better than any shitty retail or food service job. avoid any aviation jobs though just get a desk job.
Yes. If only the US military would get it through their head that this is how you make good propaganda/recruitment adds.
Not muh paraplegic overweight sassy wahmen.
If it came out before 2010 it would be mediocre. Nowadays it's a fricking godsend to get a decent action movie with white male MCs and no overtly political shit
This movie takes place in a fictional america that is more like starship troopers where the leadership is old, maybe out of touch but still competent. Where the military industrial complex is only used for good and sees all out war and destruction as a last resort, as it should be but instead we live in demonclown world where we carpet bomb muslims with drones so we can control their heroin production and oil
I was honestly surprised how well they handled Val Kilmer. But the things that could've been if he kept in shape like cruise, we couldve gotten some more Iceman and Maverick kino
If they keep funding Kino like this. Yes I do too
This. I'm too old now, otherwise i'd enlist.
fpbp
Based
This movie was made for people with low iq
>t. low iq pseud
Predictable and boring
>uuuuh.... you suck
gottem!
This post was made by a low test male.
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Did you know the Chinese made one of these called Sky Fighters / Lock Destination or something like that? In it, the protagonist plays entirely by the rules, the CCP are shown to be the best at literally everything, everyone is in uniform all the time - the love interest is just a dutiful military wife - and everything is done by the book throughout lmao. It's unbelievably boring and I don't know how you make jets dull but they did it. They even ripped top gun scene by scene
>the Chinese are making a shitty knockoff of a great American thing
anon I’m not really surprised. they’re like an ant colony over there. they have no souls.
They should really stop making those fricking gay commercials to join the military and instead fund movies like this. Probably way more effective and non-zogbots like me can still get some entertainment out of them. I bet a lot of people enlisted in the air force because of the first movie.
They've been making those UFO videos to try and make the Navy seem interesting.
This
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The military industrial complex is the second coolest thing about America and I’m tired of pretending it’s not.
Maybe, but it's also part of the cause of its decline.
Wrong. The opposite is true.
>he doesn't know
lol
false dichotomy, animal
No, you're thinking of leftists
>he thinks he knows
America's industrial base, coupled with it's military, is why you rule the world. Enrages me to see so many Americans lacking a basic understanding of why the entirety of Western Civilisation is compelled to align itself with you
>Fighting was the only thing… the ONLY THING… I was ever good at. But at least I always fought for what I believed in.
Limp-wristed gimp, you'll be first against the wall. Nothing but dead weight, you drag down my post by association
Weird post, it’ll be neo confederates and no one else “against the wall,” lol. Take that untreated schizophrenic rage leave
Weaboo virgin freak. You were picked last at school and nobody wants you on their team now
>quoting a character from the most popular video game of the playstation 1 era while on a board dedicated to appreciation of media makes me a weeb
No, you’re just a frothing loonie. Take that “day of the rope” shit somewhere else, Salvador Ramos.
>these mental gymnastics
Post your hand then hard man
Only a poltard cares about shit like this but here you go nutter butter
>posting and quoting cartoons at your age
>nutter butter
have a nice day
No, it's the opposite. America's success was because of the military industrial complex. The "american lifestyle" is propped up by american hegemony.
Without it we couldnt have this kino. so yea. its pretty cool
THE MASTER
based israelite fellater
Tom cruise is the first
Number one coolest thing: Racism
If that were really true we would have killed all the brown people in America by now. As we goddamn well should have.
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IDFC IF UR A israelite Hispanic Black person OR A DYKE YOU ARE ALL EQUALLY WORTHLESS MAGGOTS HERE
DO I HAVE MYSELF C L E A R !
When does /misc/ ever claim to be a hardened group of badasses?
It’s literally why we have the internet, gps, Velcro and a million other things. Not a big fan but it’s the truth
No, it's the reason why you got it 10 years late.
What's cool about wasteful spending? Are you a israelite?
worse, he's a brainwashed western chauvinist sociopath who loves to see people suffer as long as he gets his funko pops
Yes i especially want to intern japs
>Strongest military in the world
>Doesn't use it to conquer and subjugate entire countries
>Instead uses the hypocritical message of "spreading democracy" while siphoning resources from backwoods shitholes
Dishonest warmongering
You forgot the part where they funnel money into Israel.
>>Doesn't use it to conquer and subjugate entire countries
Because it can't. America is a paper tiger. It's sole reason for being is to enrich its oligarchs. It cannot do anything else.
>paper tiger
is that why we sat on Iraq and Afghanistan for 20 years before getting bored and just left? I don't remember the Taliban/others doing anything from a military standpoint to make us leave..
They won in the end and america fled
Its another vietnam situation, they simply outlasted everything you threw at them, you lost
The American military is not designed to be a police force. If it went back RIGHT NOW it could accomplish what it was designed to do, conquer the official military and government of a nation. This building schools shit is like putting a lion in a circus act.
the US military is designed to make money for the people who make the weaponry that the military uses, nothing more nothing less, the goal was never to win but to keep sales high. Since the mid seventies the world has not been run by nations but by 'the market' and national interests are either tangentially related to market goals or outright decided by the 'free market'
America's chief business is business
If you openly conquer every yells at you, political control of leader while siphoning resources is much easier
>every yells at you
I don't give a frick about what those pansy homosexuals think.
that's why your son will never sit on the board of directors of a ukrainian energy company
Yet every single power in past 3000 years of history did this.
I think amerilards are just too lazy to do shit
the burgers openly conquered many native nations - and then named SUV's in their honor
A based fellow /r/genusa enjoyer I see
funny how Trump is the only one that didn't start a war or ~~*conflict*~~
>bombs syria
>assassinates one of iran's top generals
Oh no a one off strike on an open air field and a drone strike on a single person that’s just as bad as turning Libya into a failed state. Trump ended the war in Afghanistan it was his peace deal and was the only president that got along with North Korea
>his peace deal
that the taliban promptly broke and he kept delaying the exit date until after his presidency to avoid a PR nightmare like what happened with Biden
Yeah, remember what North Korea did when Obama was in office? Boy, that country really did a lot back then, but thankfully they stopped it when Trump was president.
>causes civil war
I fricking wish
No one will even convince me you should mount ordinance on the wing of a swin wing aircraft. I don’t care what party they are from.
>he thinks you need to conquer a country and paint the map in your colors to dominate the world
moronic russian Black person detected
What part of "dishonest" did you not understand, you dumb fricking Christkiller
I guess Israel is a master of shadow domination.
>you need to conquer a country and paint the map in your colors
literal Black personmutt enslaved by cnn propaganda, what is Syria, Lybia and Iraq dumbfrick?
You are the conquered one goblino
true, israelites didnt need to do that with US
fricking this. russians are dying like flies trying to conquer some shithole in ukraine and meanwhile USA just got 2 new servants in form of (super rich) finland and sweden
Sweden and Finland were denied NATO membership because of Turkey’s veto, moronic mutt.
seethe. sweden and finland are joining the club and we will deploy nuclear cruise missiles there
Frick Turkey
the vote hasn't happened yet you moron. turkey is just doing it to get what they want, which they will, and they will vote to allow them
This guy fricks
>2 strong militaries in the world
>both conquer and subjugate entire countries
>one side kicks off bretton woods
>wins
>but then biden gets elected
>What is the gulf war
>What is the war on terror
>What is the marshall plan
look what happened to the so called "second strongest military in the world" when it entered a conventional war. stuck in some shithole right across the border for months on end.
>implying that china, india, japan, turkey and united kingdom each has weaker army than russia
In 1991, US did this, Desert Storm, their most accomplished military operation
Why do mutts think K/D ratios and early gains in the opening stages of an invasion are the only thing that matters in wars?
You idiots lost to third world rice farmers and goat herders because you suck at projecting power and achieving basic strategic goals.
You have no idea what you are talking about, also Im russian
US has strongest army in the history of mankind and not only that, but among other things it specializes in blitzkrieg like integrated strike missions. Russia cant afford that. They have enough money to change rocket fuel on nuclear balistic missiles (left from Stalins time) every couple of years or so. The rest is literally paper tiger
such a shame the majority of the Iraqi fighter pilots pussied out and ran to Iran, could have been an even more kino air war
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We don't need to. We're the good guys.
Doesn't need to. America is probably the single most difficult state to invade that has ever existed. That's why the Soviets put all their efforts into bringing you down from within, and it looks like they succeeded.
I'm no fan of America/ns by any means but if you fall, Europe will face an Armageddon of warfare from all directions. Get your shit together and stop toppling states in the ME, they protect us by proxy, whether intentionally or not
not my problem
Assuming you don't live on the Americas or in Europe then yeah it's not your problem. If you do live on one of these continents then we're all on the same team by neccessity
I don't think that America is capable of winning a real war.
Name a country that is then
>Why don't they declare war like to everyone...right?
If that were the case "America" would be a big nuclear wasteland and no, Donnie T magic powers would not save you from radiation.
>>Instead uses the hypocritical message of "spreading democracy" while siphoning resources from backwoods shitholes
Exactly what resources has America siphoned from the places we've invaded? Did we get petroleum from Iraq? How about rare earth minerals from Afghanistan? It's more like we use those wars to launder American tax payer money to globohomosexual corporations. America's government is corrupt to the level of ancient Rome but America is also a benevolent hegemon that has maintained the Western liberal democratic world order and as a result created the most peaceful and prosperous era in history. This is due almost entirely to America with minor help from western, northern, central Europe, Australia and Canada.
I will grant you that "spreading democracy" is a fricking moronic narrative. Clearly you can't just give sandBlack folk and goatfrickers democracy and expect them to become civilized. Given the choice they'd elect Islamists just like Egypt did after the Arab Spring.
Unironically. Thanks to Americans spending trillions our small nation will have more stealth fighters than Russia.
PS. keep sending Ukraine free shit please
>pic
With a fighter jet, you can go anywhere!
Get back in the trenches homosexual
We need a fricking WEBM of the ground to air missiles where at some point shit is just one big clusterfrick of confusion and radio chatter. It only lasts 2 seconds or something but I heard some audible Holy Fricks in my theatre
>ground to air
It's SAM-Surface to Air Missiles. Sounds cooler than GAM.
That shot was absolutely horrifying.
The biggest “holy frick” in my theatre came when that SU-57 stopped on a dime, turned, dodged the missile/guns, and came straight back in. Came before Goose and Maverick even got their “what the frick was that” moment.
For me it was when Maverick saved Rooster by doing that stall above him and dropping flairs. Someone post the webm pls
That was in the trailer
>ukraine good
>south vietnam bad
what did liberals mean by this
What was the point of being in Vietnam. Every minute we spent there was a minute we created more things to fight. Vietnam was a mistake it's time you stop trying to act like it wasn't.
>What was the point of being in Vietnam.
The point was to prove to the Europeans, especially the French, that USA was willing to sacrifice blood and treasure to defend an ally (South Vietnam) from hostile invaders. The French were playing with the idea of ending NATO in order to form some kind of servile compromise with the Soviets. They often claimed that the US's security guarantees to Europe would not be enforced in the time of need. "The US has troops in Europe. They do not have cities in Europe. When the fighting starts, the Americans will leave". The American War in Vietnam was a gesture to the Europeans, "look what we're willing to do in defense of a worthless piece of shit like South Vietnam. Now imagine how much more we'd do to defend an actually valuable ally like Western Europe."
There were many ironies in that era. One irony was that, despite America losing the War in Vietnam, definitively; the actual goal of appeasing the Europeans worked, and NATO survived. Another irony being that independent, unified, communist Vietnam was immediately invaded by communist China after the USA left. Also kind of ironic, or maybe just hypocritical; that France was very vocally opposed to the USA's war in their former colony "French Indochina", but in reality, deeply reassured by America's actions.
The US operates an empire, this empire is based on tremendous military strength.
The military industrial complex is an irrelevant sideshow, the reality is that American financial and industrial power is based on concessions secured by it's military, money invested there is not wasted.
To think that the US spending money on it's military can only be a result of corruption is to be fundamentally ignorant of America's place in the world.
When people in the US complain about the military industrial complex, they are in effect complaining that the US military is not efficient enough (in their view) in it's job of policing empire.
The US was able to leave Vietnam because they made a deal with the Chinese, and the Chinese were effectively completely alienated from the USSR from that point on.
The US no longer needed to check sino-soviet expansion in East Asia, because they would both readily check each other.
Holy shit this is some premium cope. Have you no self awareness? It's ok to be a loser sometimes Donnie
You know that France partially left NATO in 1966 right? And they only rejoined in 2009?
i didnt notice, what's the difference
Is that why France sent warships to the east coast to get their gold back?
>to defend an ally (South Vietnam) from hostile invaders
you do realize south vietnam was a puppet state created by the US? Vietnamese overwhelmingly showed support for Ho chi minh and other leader figures both during french, japanese and american occupation
This kind of delusion is how you get shit like afghanistan
based Uncle Ho, westoids still seething to this day
I love jane fonda, boomers were mentally ill if they got offended by this shit
why do you love north vietnam but not russia?
I don't care about either of them, I just like jane
They should have sent that b***h back over there as a comfort woman for all the [white] American GIs.
i feel the need...
the need to make my movie pander to the chinese communist party by removing any and all mentions and references to taiwan from my iconic jacket
chill man watch some gaga
>he didn't watch the movie
>posting disinformation on a Turkish glassblowing forum
/misc/ tourist outed
Soon....
They call their members Guardians. Unironically.
>Guardians, of the galaxy
Bravo Gunn
Based Platonists
I hate that insignia.
yes top gun was kino, problem?
No problem at all, I was being serious
Correct, constant warfare is what keeps the US ahead of everyone else technologically. You would be very unhappy if the US were to ever stopped waging wars.
lol, the Soviets outspent the USA as a percentage of GDP. doesn't mean shit. DARPA projects were longshots by definition - the internet is survivorship bias. the french spent a shitload trying to invent airplanes, but burgers beat them to it. even theoretical succeseses don't always translate - see the 80's SDI ABM vs the current iron dome. trying to innovate is better than being stagnant, but failing to innovate is equivalent.
>I LOVE THE MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX
Yes
Pax Americana.
You're welcome first-world.
I'm sad they didn't use the Dark Star latter in the movie.
Same here, I thought they'd figure a clever way to bring it back for the final battle but once Cruise wrecks it it's over.
this makes NATO look badass lmao
The only thing inaccurate about this picture is the Russian tank is operable. lol
they took ukrainian territory just like the turks took cyprus territory and all your money won't do jack shit
lol well see. Putin is going to be dead soon regardless. Dude has cancer up the ass.
We have money.
>100 days later
>Russia controls less of Ukraine than 30 days into the war
>tens of thousands dead
>useless strip of land in Donbas is all they have to show for it
Pathetic
>using a F14 as an intimidating plane
That jet was retired 15 years ago. They could’ve at least used a super hornet or strike eagle
there is f15 on the left. iirc its art of some dumb chink who tried to portray western mic as bad guys, kek
Doesn’t make sense but good try
>Russian tank isn’t a burnt wreck or being towed away by gypsies
Inaccurate
Wasn't this film scheduled for a 2021 release but then Biden fricked Afghanistan to the ground and everyone laughed at America (and inbred Afghanis)?
I think the real reason was covid, and Tom Cruise refused to let it be a direct to streaming release. But yeah we can go with your reason that the movie was delayed for 2 years because of geopolitics
isnt covid geopolitical?
I will invest in Lockheed Martin stock so more war films kino can be made.
weapons are cool deal with it chud
>I LOVE THE MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX
we need to go back to the time where the majority loved the military industrial complex. the second it stopped america suddenly started going to shit
It stopped at the end of the Cold War and the US lost something that united everyone as Americans.
Nah it stopped in the 2010s when leftoids gained power across every form of media
Patriotism was super high after the world trade centre attacks
More specifically I think it stopped somewhere around 2012-2013. That seems to have been the tipping point for, in my memory, the majority of shit that has happened since. I’m not sure why it took a decade after 2001 to do it though.
Okay technically after the Cold War there was the threat of Islamic terrorism that united people especially after 9/11, but that threat has pretty much fizzled out in the 2010s and so you get both right and left wing extremists fricking everything up in our country. Things were still best for our country during the Cold War years and the the 90s after that for a brief period. Things started going to hell back in the 00s.
it stopped with the great recession and changing public sentiment to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan
>changing public sentiment
There's a correlation with my point in there
I prefer freelance
>"America has an arms problem! We shouldn't have this many weapons!"
>"But we do need over a dozen four-star generals who do nothing on salary...JUST BECAUSE WE DO, OKAY!?"
frick i want to rewatch this movie... if all the romance scenes were cut out
>AMERICANS LOVE SUCKING ISRAELS DICK
We know OP
I mean it was fun when Stargate did it
This is not a war movie. The "mission" they were supposed to accomplish could have been accomplished with bunker busting, high precision missiles. This is to War Movies as Str Wars is to science fiction. TGM is military fantasy. And I think it's the best movie ever made.
As long as they keep that military industrial complex pointed at commies and brown people who frick goats, it's fine with me.
it's currently being churned out to kill Russians in Ukraine so it's still fine with you
>Nooooo you're not supposed to like movies with fighter jets!
I wasn't being ironic
Is there some dumb love triangle in the new Top Gun? Totally ruined the first one with their stupid romance tropes.
>he was fighting for country
>he was fighting for his life
>she was the women who came between them
There's romance, but there's way less emphasis on it and doesn't really have anything to do with the main story.
Light romance plot that basically served as a slight breather between the cool plane scenes
i am sorry but you are not a real man if you have never served your country. nobody really respects you.
OH SAY CAN YOU SHART IN THE LOCAL WALMART
ZOG BLESS AMERIGA
Very easy to tell who the Muslims are itt
Go back to your own countries smelly parasites
Test
They are actually recruiting kids at my theatre its fricking insane
The military is an essence arm of any society, no less than health or education. If not for these men and those like them, foreign states and fighting men would destroy our homes and enslave or kill our families. Take a reality check homosexual, fighting is necessary for survival
you act like the US isnt already enslaved, like its government doesn't care more about ukraine or saudi than its own people
>we're all on the same team by neccessity
i dont have business interests in ukraine
>you act like the US isnt already enslaved, like its government doesn't care more about ukraine or saudi than its own people
I seethe every time I see a self-hating american who doesn't realize how great US is compared to the alternatives
it's probably russian or chinese shills
we can agree it's less of a shithole than mexico, but the gap is closing
i'm american, just don't think ukraine is worth $40 billion and i resent the fact that my quality of life is determined by my skin color and my dad's political affiliation
>i resent the fact that my quality of life is determined by my skin color and my dad's political affiliation
are you a white guy complaining about race? you're a giant homosexual you're failures are of your own making not your skin color.(include whatever other race you want with the same words i dont care)
this take is about 20 years too late
Name another superpower where people have remotely similar civil rights and chances to prosper.
>civil rights and chances to prosper.
that are rapidly going away if you haven't been paying attention
Did I say that they weren't?
So you only shortsightedly cheer for whatever is currently the most beneficial to you, even if that current system is ultimately leading you to your doom?
What the frick are you talking about? I'm not american. I'm saying that you have no idea how bad rest of the world is.
I am American, America is nearly in free fall decline at this point. Western Europe is in a similar position. Boomers outsourced everything, imported everyone, and left us with nothing.
>50s: america is in decline because of the soviets
>60s: america is in decline because of anti war hippies
>70s america is in decline because of the oil crisis
>80s: america is in decline because of wall street
>90s: america is in decline because of the european union
>00s: america is in decline because of terrorism
>10s: america is in decline because of cultural marxism
your doomer shit is getting really tiresome, nothing will ever stop the freedom train
You don't see a clear decline from the 50's until now?
no, america is a much better country now than it was in the 50s
Lol
>he watched too many black and white newsreels and coke commercials
By what metric?
reduced poverty, reduced political violence, increased personal liberties,
enfranchisement of women and minorities, affordable and accessible food and consumer goods,
increased consumer protection, the environmental protection act, no draft, low risk of nuclear war, reduced crime rate, better access to health care, reduced child mortality, increased life expectancy,
We made 13% of the population feel good better themselves at the expense of everyone else
>people actually believe this
Mental, almost always runts too
America has literally been in decline since 1945. If your top General says you're fighting on the wrong side, you probably are
patton said this in regards to the soviets, how they posed a clear threat after ww2. he never said anything about american domestic politics
He literally said we should either wipe the Germans from the face of the Earth and invade Russia immediately, or else ally with Germany and invade Russia immediately. Patton knew that advances in nuclear weapons and other military technology were about to level the playing field. The US could've taken the entire world on it's own in 1943. Today? No fricking way
the american population wouldve never stood behind a war of aggression against the soviets, and it wouldve been a tough war coming right out of ww2. public opinion is a major factor in a democracy during wartime
Would've been an easy war considering they had just mobilised the largest army in human history, had first access to nyclear missiles and were churning out a brand new aircraft carrier every month. America will never get an opening like that again
and how to sell this to the american public? attack an ally that just helped defeat the nazis and japan, because? commie crimes werent really know back then, the iron curtain was already on the horizon but there was no clear threat coming from the soviets.
they didnt even plan to attack the western allies.
wiping the floor with a potential rival that just used to be your battle buddy paints a really bad picture.
the US wouldve very likely won in the end, but how to sell the additional million dead soldiers to the public?
Fabricate something like you did for Iraq or Afghanistan
that wouldve been one hell of a story to justify the pre-emptive drop of 30 nukes on soviet cities, killing millions of civilians instantly and then grinding all the way through war torn europe and even further to moscow, all while your population just wants to enjoy peace and prosperity after an already exhausting war
Most of the Soviets fighting men were dead, any worthwhile military equipment came from the US. Experience was the only thing on their side and the Americans could've caught up fairly quickly. They didn't need to march all the way to Moscow like Hitler did, they could level the whole place from the skies, bombard every port from the sea, bully it's trading partners into submission or buy them out, and just wait
again, its not about military power, which was clearly on the side of the americans. its about public appearances and the will of the people to carry on with this for no reason. attacking a former ally because they might be a rival in a decade is something the average person wont stand behind. they wouldve gutted harry truman in the streets if he dragged them into another war for no good reason.
the only way for this to have some kind of legitimacy is if the soviets attacked first, but they knew this was a stupid idea so they didnt
>bully it's trading partners into submission or buy them out, and just wait
this actually happened immediately after ww2 though
the first part of your post is stupid and you never explained how you'd convince americans to want a war with their former allies
also use the right "its" next time esl
Both of those are extremely poor examples. Even in 2001 people were hesitant to go to war, and that was against a no-name country in the middle east, not a supposed rising superpower that was an ally just years prior.
Lol what? After 9/11 the entire American populace saw red and was howling for blood consistently for nearly a decade. The American reaction to a domestic attack was so extreme it bewildered Old World inhabitants who were more used to taking those kinds of hits. American citizens thought they were literally untouchable and when they saw they weren't they were more than willing to back a full scale invasion of anyone
>he doesnt remember the largest peace protests in human history after the invasion of afganistan and iraq
I remember them being drowned out by the roar of war mongering from millions of every day Americans, old ladies and little kids calling for heads to roll and bullets to fly. That kind of fervour is rare nowadays but even then it was a noticbly intense reaction
Is america the mcu?
You have no civil rights and even less chance to prosper. Keep on dreaming though my sweet circumcised golem. Just 2 more weeks trust the plan patriots.
The area Americans lack real civil rights is Healthcare. In terms of personal defence and freedom of expression they embarrass the rest of the world.
Its nowhere near free fall as a state imo, but from the perspective of an American citizen things have taken a dreadful turn for no discernable reason
If they actually care as a populace they can. The last war America really cared about on a ground level was against Japan, and they obliterated two large cities in seconds just to make a point. Threaten the mainland and Americans do not frick about
>The last war America really cared about on a ground level was against Japan, and they obliterated two large cities in seconds just to make a point.
Are you one of those people who believe that the US beat Germany all by themselves in WW2?
>reading comprehension
I deliberately never mentioned Germany. UK and USSR did most of the fighting, with America propping up the Soviet military at a profit
Japan assraped the US until their gas around.
USA is still the best of all alternatives. For all the mockery you get from Europeans, if you ask the average Euro in a civil manner about the alternatives, including Europeans nations trying to take the lead again, most Euros are content to let America take the tip spot, and for us to take a supporting role as essentially a foothold or fortress outside the Americas
>most Euros are content to let America take the tip spot
they're content to let americans pay for their defense with blood and money
not my problem
Which poor shithole are you from?
a poor shithole that doesn't have business interests in ukraine
France commits their Airforce, and the UK commits it's navy and infantry to American operations far more often than not. It makes news when one of these allies asserts it's independence
Its political sphere is, to an extent, beholden to the military; even with all the Marxist and Zionist infiltration the military is still it's own beast and always will be.
>i dont have business interests in Ukraine
If you're an American you have a civil interest in Ukraine. Had Ukraine been steamrolled the Russians would've started eyeing up other territories in Europe and the Caucasus. The numerous states, organisations and groups hostile to the EU and USA would increase their operations with this new inspiration of confidence.
The second Western Europeans started feeling the heat and made a move against Russia, in seĺf-defence or otherwise, the USA has no choice but to pledge their full support on every level of society or lose face to the entire world.
>lose face to the entire world.
Everyone and their grandmother knows you were only there for the money. America has had a vested interest in Europe since it's very conception and played this up massively during WWII, during the Marshall Plan, and every fricking day since. For the common man, by the USAs admission, Western Europe is America's best friend. If you let you best friend get hit and don't do anything to defend him, you're a little b***h and the wolves will smell fear
nevertheless recruiting at the kinoplex is lame and manipulative
Wait until you learn about ROTC and how they recruit as early as primary school
>t. moron
All fighting organisations appeal to the youth, young men are the best fighters and their mind are easier to break, and reshape. That's never going to change, even if there is now room for other demographics due to technology, war will always be fought by young men
Name one 20th century war that fits this pattern.
UK. France. Russia. Iran. China. United States of America
I hope they remind people who want to join that the characters in Top Gun are in the Navy.
The navy is full of homosexuals.
>So you're telling me, if I sign this paper, I can be Top Gun, get to play topless beach volleyball with other ace pilots, and fly F-14s?
>Air Force Recruiter: You got it! Just sign right here and the enlisted recruits bus will be waiting when you get out of the movie.
WHOOOO DRESS BLUES WITH A SWORD
>They are actually recruiting kids at my theatre its fricking insane
dude its the chair force who cares, like if are out of high school and not going to college then the chair forces is 100 times better than any shitty retail or food service job. avoid any aviation jobs though just get a desk job.
joining the air force is a good gig. the only one i would ever suggest anyone try
Yes. If only the US military would get it through their head that this is how you make good propaganda/recruitment adds.
Not muh paraplegic overweight sassy wahmen.
What country were they attacking? Every enemy pilot was dressed up like a fricking stormtrooper
>METAL UNDER TENSION
>BEGGING ME TO TAP AND GO
The military industrial complex gave you all the technology you think Bill Gates and Steve Jobs created
but at what cost?
I don’t think women should be put in charge of anything that doesn’t involve cooking or taking care of kids. Sorry. 🙁
unironically, i do
missiles are based
military jets are based
tanks are based
whats with the jet kino in recent years
there's nothing honorable or masculine about dying for islam
same but without being gay like OP
I work for Lockheed, so unironically, yes I do love it.
I work at skunkworks, lmaoing @ you, loser
I work for EG&G over here at area S-4 feelin up alien breasts n shit homie
I'm literally the CEO of Area 51, get fricked
so you should. Anyone who dislikes something that they have benefitted from is a hypocrite and a virtue signaller and ungrateful.
Based
Is the entire board shit posting?
This movie was awful.
If it came out before 2010 it would be mediocre. Nowadays it's a fricking godsend to get a decent action movie with white male MCs and no overtly political shit
I guess if you're looking at it that way
For me it was when the iceman got up and vocalized some words and then died.
This movie takes place in a fictional america that is more like starship troopers where the leadership is old, maybe out of touch but still competent. Where the military industrial complex is only used for good and sees all out war and destruction as a last resort, as it should be but instead we live in demonclown world where we carpet bomb muslims with drones so we can control their heroin production and oil
I do. You don't? I love seeing nondescript enemies of America blow up and die lol.
>I love seeing nondescript enemies of America blow up and die lol.
This is especially necessary since no country is actually a threat anymore. Those bad pilots in the movie were really cool and threatening.
GOD BLESS AMERICA!
I unironically wish all of my taxes were spent on Her Majesty's Royal Navy rather than the NHS.
>i don't feel so well, Mav.
>can you ride my tail next week?
I was honestly surprised how well they handled Val Kilmer. But the things that could've been if he kept in shape like cruise, we couldve gotten some more Iceman and Maverick kino
Jesus fricking christ, did Cinemaphile get raided by reddit today??? Im seeing so much reddit troony shit on so many boards on here. Wtf is going on??
Go be fodder in Ukraine for president midge’s nothing war homosexual
Does anyone has that missile dodge maneuver against Maverick?
japs wont shut up about it
I hate giving money to spooks but I have got to see this.
Post yfw Iceman spoke