Nah, only half. One portion of Zoomers obsess over gender identities and their mental illnesses, and the other consists of borderline Hitler sympathizers. Probably the most polarized generation yet.
I think when Gen Alpha grows up, we might. I can't imagine listening to the obnoxious zoomers that they're "cancelled" and anything in their parents generation (millennials) will be uncool.
If you never support something and the people making it have to stop in order to make money somewhere else, you only have yourself to blame. This is why a lot of anons aren't getting the content they want. Because who the frick wants to cater to people that won't help them pay the bills? But don't worry because the same thing happened to the tumblr crowd. They were notorious for not funding stuff they supposedly loved.
Psychicpebbles, OneyNG, Egoraptor,Speedosausage HarryPartridge, and all of the other Sleepycast/edgy Newgrounds animators were just making their funny, edgy cartoons for lulz, not for the paltry amount of ad money it made them.
Where are the next generation of edgy teenagers/20-somethings who are passionate about comedy/animating & just make silly cartoons for their own sake? All of the software and technology is still there.
Is the notion of just making a funny video for its own sake & not for the potential of making money just such a foreign concept to people nowadays?
>Psychicpebbles, OneyNG, Egoraptor,Speedosausage HarryPartridge, and all of the other Sleepycast/edgy Newgrounds animators were just making their funny, edgy cartoons for lulz, not for the paltry amount of ad money it made them.
Funny.
The only Newgrounds animators I know of are Sirkowski and Zone.
>Is the notion of just making a funny video for its own sake & not for the potential of making money just such a foreign concept to people nowadays?
You'll get that but sooner or later life comes a calling and people got to eat and do something else. Plenty of people make stuff they like for the sake of it but that can't go on forever for most of them. You know what they say about doing what you're good at for free. Don't.
>Is the notion of just making a funny video for its own sake & not for the potential of making money just such a foreign concept to people nowadays?
You'll get that but sooner or later life comes a calling and people got to eat and do something else. Plenty of people make stuff they like for the sake of it but that can't go on forever for most of them. You know what they say about doing what you're good at for free. Don't.
You two are ignoring that the internet from 15 years ago is not the same as the internet of today. Back then short non-monetized videos were able to be seen and shared, now they're actively hidden by the algorithm because youtube prioritizes squeaky-clean monetized content now. There's no real incentive to make free videos anymore, let alone edgy content. And that's not even touching the fact that edgy stuff could be deleted for hate speech or whatever.
There are plenty of places that share that stuff and reach a wide number of people. No matter what you do, you can find people that like your stuff. You just have to be good and not incompetent. Online boorus, baraag, here, etc. No matter how degenerate, you can post it somewhere and get attention.
That's a better question then, why are people only uploading shit for financial gain? I understand that's always been a point but I swear, people weren't this obsessed with wanting money at one point in their life.
Being a prostitute for money + being afraid of being seen as "cringe"/ genuine is why everything sucks now. Smosh's first video was them dancing to the Pokemon theme song, how many people make stuff like that?
Because they want to make a living doing what they like. You want people doing it for free then enjoy it while you can. We've lost so many artists of various kinds over the many, many, many years because they have to move on and do something else. You want free shit there's plenty that are giving it away. But don't be surprised if they stop.
Teenagers and kids aren't willing to do anything that takes skill anymore. They just do whatever is easy for them, which is basically filming themselves with phones.
>Teenagers and kids aren't willing to do anything that takes skill anymore.
Not true, there is just low incentive. We start getting into meta reasons like how society is structured at that point though. And how there is way too much risk for very little reward, disintegrating community closeness, etc
If you are going to have little either way, it is better to have little and no effort expended.
t. 25 year old zoomer
>Is the notion of just making a funny video for its own sake & not for the potential of making money just such a foreign concept to people nowadays?
It does, there's just less of it and of lower quality, because people who only animate as a hobby have less time to make it and improve their skill. All of those people you mentioned have Patreons or other forms of financial support; do you think they would be able to produce everything they have without it?
That's a better question then, why are people only uploading shit for financial gain? I understand that's always been a point but I swear, people weren't this obsessed with wanting money at one point in their life.
Being a prostitute for money + being afraid of being seen as "cringe"/ genuine is why everything sucks now. Smosh's first video was them dancing to the Pokemon theme song, how many people make stuff like that?
>why are people only uploading shit for financial gain?
I don't know who you're talking about but the most likely answer is that it's their job or a significant portion of their income at the very least >I swear, people weren't this obsessed with wanting money at one point in their life.
You might be biased in that you probably consume more higher quality things, which often requires more time and therefore more money. There's a bunch of no-name artists uploading their stuff online for free every day. >being afraid of being seen as "cringe"/ genuine is why everything sucks now
I actually agree with you on this >Smosh's first video was them dancing to the Pokemon theme song, how many people make stuff like that?
More than ever, actually. You just never see it because most of the time it's not good, and is outclassed both in quality and quantity by people who can do it full-time because it pays their bills.
Teenagers and kids aren't willing to do anything that takes skill anymore. They just do whatever is easy for them, which is basically filming themselves with phones.
There are more kids animating, making music, etc., than ever before, and the stuff they're making is miles better than what was being posted online before. That's not knocking the people who came before; kids now have access to wayyyy better resources like programs and tutorials, and they have to compete with more people to be noticed, but my point still stands. Thinking young people aren't doing anything anymore is some Boomer mentality bullshit.
That's a better question then, why are people only uploading shit for financial gain? I understand that's always been a point but I swear, people weren't this obsessed with wanting money at one point in their life.
Being a prostitute for money + being afraid of being seen as "cringe"/ genuine is why everything sucks now. Smosh's first video was them dancing to the Pokemon theme song, how many people make stuff like that?
You're probably too young to remember this, but there was a time when people used to just make things they thought were fun or entertaining & share them online, without any kind of profit motive.
Bit those days have passed, and it's never going to return. Why do something for free if other people are getting paid for it? Hell, people seem even more grateful for the people who produce content for profit than they do for the people who share their work for free.
Bit those days have passed, and it's never going to return. Why do something for free if other people are getting paid for it? Hell, people seem even more grateful for the people who produce content for profit than they do for the people who share their work for free.
What's with this moronic narrative that nobody makes shit for free anymore? There's more of it being produced now than ever. You can go watch it right now, for free, anywhere you go >Hell, people seem even more grateful for the people who produce content for profit than they do for the people who share their work for free.
Probably because most of it is better, because when you get paid to do something you're able to put more time and effort into it than if it were a hobby
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Most people who "make shit for free" either post it to monetized platforms or use it to promote their paid work.
3 weeks ago
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And to add, I'm not saying this is a bad thing. If you have a skill that can be ethically monetized online, you'd be a fool not to, especially in this world where people make money just by playing fricking videogames in front of a webcam. The problem is that ir starts to lower the bar more and more, which is why as I said earlier, you see so many animators just degrade into streamers or vloggers.
>You're probably too young to remember this, but there was a time when people used to just make things they thought were fun or entertaining & share them online, without any kind of profit motive.
You're probably too young to remember this, but there was a time when people were able to afford to live. When a man could support a family of 4 on a single wage. When the whole family could take a vacation out of the country, annually. When a young couple could afford to buy a home, raise kids and send them to school without needing a foodbank or handouts.
Anon, teens could make passion project shit on youtube because their family could afford to live. Now everyone is fricking broke all the time. Nobody can afford shit and people are starving. There is no middle class anymore, so all the little rich kiddies who can afford cameras and props to make youtube skits are hustling to make some fricking money because they want to help their parents with mortgage payments or make sure they're not one accident into medical induced bankruptcy debt for life.
It sucks but it's definitely not a 'why dont people wanna make free entertainment for me anymore' and definitely a 'oh shit i can't afford to have hobbies now, only side hustles.' Shit homies can't even game without streaming that shit and ebegging for donations.
That was when internet content was hardly monetizable. Now it's monetizable. Now the space is filled with high-profile people trying to make money. Now you've got audiences asking if you do commissions, if you want to sell your characters as adoptables, and when you talk about bigger projects they suggest opening a patreon. And those that do take money will have enough free time to put out even more content and become those high-profile individuals I mentioned earlier.
It's beyond temptation; monetization is so ubiquitous now that you start to feel stupid if you have a hobby when you could have a "sidegig-hobby".
Everything's encouraging you to sell out. Nothing's encouraging the opposite.
Ever wonder why you see so many central Americans and SEAs running successful social media art accounts? It's because they can make a living off of dirt cheap US$ commissions. Many firstworld internet artists have some other job and therefore have limited time to draw, so if there's somebody actually willing to pay them enough to make drawing somebody else's idea worth their time, that's what they're going to draw and post. And besides, why give shit away for free if somebody else is getting paid to do it?
No. You will just get safe edgy shit like Hazbin because there is nowhere to post proper edge and doing so might get your life destroyed but the Twitter police.
It disappeared because all the millennials/90s kids aged out of it. 2000s kids don't want it, 10s kids all eat soap. >kids born in 2010 are now 14
It's over.
The whole reason liam vickers did murder drones with robots was that so he could do blood/dismemberment/etc but with "oil" to get around the youtube censorship.
Has all kinds of talent animating and drawing but literally cannot stop fellating his insecurities in front of an audience. Now he’s given up on animation entirely and is streaming Minecraft. Such a fricking waste of space and talent.
Pretty sad how this is the case of nearly every internet animator of the last decade. Can you blame them or the industry that allowed it to happen? The only one who actually somewhat made it was psychicpebbles and even then SF feels a little sterile compared to his earlier work.
Given that Max had work doing cleanup for SpongeBob, you can’t really blame “the industry.” Max clearly had connections and could have, if he chose to, used them to get steady work. He chose to be nothing instead. That’s his fault.
Hordes of Zoomers screeching about Steven israeliteniverse, etc., count as industry pressure. Industry people could tell them to stop crucifying people for jokes, but they refrained from doing so, instead encouraging the behavior in their culture
And SpongeBob is the exception that proves the rule, many things about it are grandfathered in and again, the industry constantly b***hed about it but they can't do anything about it being the popular cartoon with kids
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Bro, actual pedophiles work for Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon. Some racist bantz on Twitter is not a dealbreaker. Everyone knows animators are gross degenerate weirdos. No one but a handful of Twitter bots ever cared about israeliteniverse. Rebecca Sugar drew actual CP of Ed and Edd fricking. Alex Herschel fricked underage girls. The lead animator of Clarence had an actual psychotic meltdown. Fricking Sexual Lobster works for Bluey and 99% of his content is about gigolos and meth-addicted orcs.
Max was not anywhere near as toxic as some of these characters.He chose to put it out there publicly and that may have hurt his chances short term, fair enough. But the fact that doors were still open to him after all that is not an exception. It shows that people in the industry understand where most of their talent comes from.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>actual CP
Kindly have a nice day
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
SU fans are hilarious. Drawing two underage boys fricking is CP, sorry weirdo.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Shut the frick up moron.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Rude newbie
3 weeks ago
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Rude newGOD
3 weeks ago
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Putting weird art in the same category as the actual fricking crime of recording child abuse waters down the term "CP" to the point where people report it to the FBI and flood it over actual CP that they have to sift through. have a nice day.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Go back to X (Formerly Twitter)
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Are the characters Edd and Eddy going to have long lasting damage? Are they going to sue?
3 weeks ago
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the kinds of twats that genuinely think cartoon porn of kids is cheese pizza are the exact same as the people that think max's israelite steven is a hate crime which is why it is insanely moronic to try and say he couldn't have a career over it when becky splenda got one
3 weeks ago
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SJWs
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
SU fans are hilarious. Drawing two underage boys fricking is CP, sorry weirdo.
have a nice day zoom zoom
3 weeks ago
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>Rebecca Sugar drew actual CP of Ed and Edd fricking
They're drawings. Half of this board's content is people reposting lewd fanart of underage cartoon girls, and no one says anything. It's only apparently bad now because people have a weird vendetta against sugar.
3 weeks ago
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I will say it is kind of weird she drew underage CN boys fricking, considering where she'd later work. The art is actually really fricking funny. I think about that line Edd says, something like "Oh Eddy. What do I see in you?"
Nobody talks about how she drew Ratatouille porn either. She has very specific fandoms she makes porn of and I find what cartoons makes her horny really strange.
3 weeks ago
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>No one but a handful of Twitter bots ever cared about israeliteniverse
the industry cared, that is the important part
3 weeks ago
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>drew >actual CP
3 weeks ago
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For the last fricking time CP is media of actual children being abused, not drawings that make you uncomfy and drag out "but that's super weird" comments
It's about literal child abuse not an obscenity statute and the distinction isn't semantic just because you don't understand it
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>Rebecca Sugar drew actual CP of Ed and Edd fricking
In an effort to be "progressive" you've managed to trivialize and be offensive to victims of actual child abuse by treating drawings as something comparable on the same level, congrats. Now frick off back to the cess pit of twitter or tumblr or what ever shithole you crawled here from.
>be animator >bust your fricking ass having to practice, improve your skill, and produce videos >the result is it can take months to have any new "content" to generate revenue >people who sit around playing videogames and talking make more money and grow larger fanbases with 0.0001% of the effort >probably even have better relationships with, and get more money from, their fans, instead of people screeching about how it's taking too long for the next cartoon or how this cartoon isn't as good as your last one
It's not hard to understand why so many animators just use their existing fanbase as a starting point for a streaming career. You'll probably see even more of this dropout among online illustrators, who see AIslopper accounts getting followers and commissions with 0.0001% of the effort (and using said artists' works as fuel, no less). Why bother putting in genuine effort to make something decent, when you have slackjawed morons pulling in multiples of your numbers, with some of their fans constituting your own fanbase?
Maybe he'll lose some of his fans who supported his art, but at the end of the day, why bother breaking your ass if hardly anybody cares and your average e-fan is just as happy watching you play Mimecraft?
That's easy if you're a leftist as your writing style indicates, even if you're obviously mentally ill that will be ignored because you fit in
Meanwhile Max lacks a supportive artistic environment that wouldn't stab him in the back for a job with people who draw worse than him, that's not "illness," that's poverty for his level of skill.
I was only just thinking about HDD's old Mega64 cartoons this afternoon
I know it sounds like an inconsequential thing now but I remember how at the time Max's lip-syncing was miles ahead of any other Newgrounds animators'
>Now he’s given up on animation entirely and is streaming Minecraft
Holy frick
Im a fellow animator and totally get him. Youtube animation doesnt pay, and he's getting old. Live streaming actually brings in more money a week than a multi million view animation that you spend 4 months on.
He made Wacky Game Jokez and Larry, which were pretty good. Then he devoted himself to an edgy pre-teen personality in his mid-20s. It wasn’t the horse show, it was how he went about it.
He’s too much of a self-critic for his own good.
His cartoons Buttface McFartasalot and Diaper Ball Z were both challenges he gave himself to write and animate a whole cartoon in 24 hours. They’re not masterpieces, but they’re good and funny enough that I always wondered “why doesn’t he just take one day a month, and do this every month?” Hell, it doesn’t have to be in 24 hours. He could have just set aside a few days a month just to make a short shitpost cartoon like those and release them on a schedule. He’d still have plenty of down time to work on his longer more involved cartoons that experiment with more shit and have a continuing story, and the regularly scheduled cartoons would keep the bills on.
Reminder one Hispanic indie animator revealed that Hotdiggedydemon is disliked within the western animation industry, MontyTown mentioned that a storyboard artist from Disney unfollowed him just for saying that he likes Max's animations
>so sensitive he unfollowed someone who merely likes Max
lol. Is this the state of the industry? I swear by some of Max's animations. His good ones are really good. Reminds me of a modern John K, but without the whiny daddy issues and grooming problems.
I mean, the moment you share a drawing of Steven israeliteniverse, your fate is sealed
There it is. It's because he scares the industry israelites.
>guy does something >you enjoy it >guy does something else >you would most likely enjoy it since you enjoyed guys past work >instead, you complain
This is the most amazingly moronic aspect of consumer psychology. What is he supposed to do, then, make the same cartoon over and over again? His animations are undoubtedly available somewhere. Also, hotdiggetydemon's cartoons weren't even funny so whatever he's doing now is probably better.
>nooo you have to serve the same slop for eternity and never change or you're a sellout!
And then if they do, you'll cry that he is a sellout for doing the same thing over and over and should do something different
I don't I'm tired of his self pity galore
You must have mistaken him for someone else
What kowtowing to the woke mafia does to a mf
Will we ever see edgy animation make a comeback?
No. Newgrounds isn't as feasible and Youtube's algorithm doesn't allow for anything fun
Unless someone is willing to do it for free and with the risk of losing his reputation in the process, no.
No because anything truly edgy is seen as "problematic today"
And you think we will think like that for the rest of humanity? At some point a new generation will want to shake things up again
The new generation is busy sterilizing themselves and inventing gender identities.
Nah, only half. One portion of Zoomers obsess over gender identities and their mental illnesses, and the other consists of borderline Hitler sympathizers. Probably the most polarized generation yet.
Hey, I'm normal! I swear!
>problematic today
I think when Gen Alpha grows up, we might. I can't imagine listening to the obnoxious zoomers that they're "cancelled" and anything in their parents generation (millennials) will be uncool.
Flashgitz still alive.
He’s not funny, he’s the family guy kind of shocking. Made for onions YouTube thumbnails
They don't have nonstop homeruns (the detective pikachu thing was pretty cringe) but most of their stuff is pretty funny. Space King was great.
If you never support something and the people making it have to stop in order to make money somewhere else, you only have yourself to blame. This is why a lot of anons aren't getting the content they want. Because who the frick wants to cater to people that won't help them pay the bills? But don't worry because the same thing happened to the tumblr crowd. They were notorious for not funding stuff they supposedly loved.
Shut up
He literally couldn't handle the truth
Psychicpebbles, OneyNG, Egoraptor,Speedosausage HarryPartridge, and all of the other Sleepycast/edgy Newgrounds animators were just making their funny, edgy cartoons for lulz, not for the paltry amount of ad money it made them.
Where are the next generation of edgy teenagers/20-somethings who are passionate about comedy/animating & just make silly cartoons for their own sake? All of the software and technology is still there.
Is the notion of just making a funny video for its own sake & not for the potential of making money just such a foreign concept to people nowadays?
>Psychicpebbles, OneyNG, Egoraptor,Speedosausage HarryPartridge, and all of the other Sleepycast/edgy Newgrounds animators were just making their funny, edgy cartoons for lulz, not for the paltry amount of ad money it made them.
Funny.
The only Newgrounds animators I know of are Sirkowski and Zone.
>Is the notion of just making a funny video for its own sake & not for the potential of making money just such a foreign concept to people nowadays?
You'll get that but sooner or later life comes a calling and people got to eat and do something else. Plenty of people make stuff they like for the sake of it but that can't go on forever for most of them. You know what they say about doing what you're good at for free. Don't.
You two are ignoring that the internet from 15 years ago is not the same as the internet of today. Back then short non-monetized videos were able to be seen and shared, now they're actively hidden by the algorithm because youtube prioritizes squeaky-clean monetized content now. There's no real incentive to make free videos anymore, let alone edgy content. And that's not even touching the fact that edgy stuff could be deleted for hate speech or whatever.
There are plenty of places that share that stuff and reach a wide number of people. No matter what you do, you can find people that like your stuff. You just have to be good and not incompetent. Online boorus, baraag, here, etc. No matter how degenerate, you can post it somewhere and get attention.
Because they want to make a living doing what they like. You want people doing it for free then enjoy it while you can. We've lost so many artists of various kinds over the many, many, many years because they have to move on and do something else. You want free shit there's plenty that are giving it away. But don't be surprised if they stop.
Teenagers and kids aren't willing to do anything that takes skill anymore. They just do whatever is easy for them, which is basically filming themselves with phones.
>Teenagers and kids aren't willing to do anything that takes skill anymore.
Not true, there is just low incentive. We start getting into meta reasons like how society is structured at that point though. And how there is way too much risk for very little reward, disintegrating community closeness, etc
If you are going to have little either way, it is better to have little and no effort expended.
t. 25 year old zoomer
>Is the notion of just making a funny video for its own sake & not for the potential of making money just such a foreign concept to people nowadays?
It does, there's just less of it and of lower quality, because people who only animate as a hobby have less time to make it and improve their skill. All of those people you mentioned have Patreons or other forms of financial support; do you think they would be able to produce everything they have without it?
>why are people only uploading shit for financial gain?
I don't know who you're talking about but the most likely answer is that it's their job or a significant portion of their income at the very least
>I swear, people weren't this obsessed with wanting money at one point in their life.
You might be biased in that you probably consume more higher quality things, which often requires more time and therefore more money. There's a bunch of no-name artists uploading their stuff online for free every day.
>being afraid of being seen as "cringe"/ genuine is why everything sucks now
I actually agree with you on this
>Smosh's first video was them dancing to the Pokemon theme song, how many people make stuff like that?
More than ever, actually. You just never see it because most of the time it's not good, and is outclassed both in quality and quantity by people who can do it full-time because it pays their bills.
There are more kids animating, making music, etc., than ever before, and the stuff they're making is miles better than what was being posted online before. That's not knocking the people who came before; kids now have access to wayyyy better resources like programs and tutorials, and they have to compete with more people to be noticed, but my point still stands. Thinking young people aren't doing anything anymore is some Boomer mentality bullshit.
That's a better question then, why are people only uploading shit for financial gain? I understand that's always been a point but I swear, people weren't this obsessed with wanting money at one point in their life.
Being a prostitute for money + being afraid of being seen as "cringe"/ genuine is why everything sucks now. Smosh's first video was them dancing to the Pokemon theme song, how many people make stuff like that?
Well I dunno could be the massive inflation making everybody splurge on groceries to feed themselves and the crappy job market that pays crappy wages
Because not everyone can live off autismbux/mommy and daddy like you, anon
You're probably too young to remember this, but there was a time when people used to just make things they thought were fun or entertaining & share them online, without any kind of profit motive.
Bit those days have passed, and it's never going to return. Why do something for free if other people are getting paid for it? Hell, people seem even more grateful for the people who produce content for profit than they do for the people who share their work for free.
What's with this moronic narrative that nobody makes shit for free anymore? There's more of it being produced now than ever. You can go watch it right now, for free, anywhere you go
>Hell, people seem even more grateful for the people who produce content for profit than they do for the people who share their work for free.
Probably because most of it is better, because when you get paid to do something you're able to put more time and effort into it than if it were a hobby
Most people who "make shit for free" either post it to monetized platforms or use it to promote their paid work.
And to add, I'm not saying this is a bad thing. If you have a skill that can be ethically monetized online, you'd be a fool not to, especially in this world where people make money just by playing fricking videogames in front of a webcam. The problem is that ir starts to lower the bar more and more, which is why as I said earlier, you see so many animators just degrade into streamers or vloggers.
>You're probably too young to remember this, but there was a time when people used to just make things they thought were fun or entertaining & share them online, without any kind of profit motive.
You're probably too young to remember this, but there was a time when people were able to afford to live. When a man could support a family of 4 on a single wage. When the whole family could take a vacation out of the country, annually. When a young couple could afford to buy a home, raise kids and send them to school without needing a foodbank or handouts.
Anon, teens could make passion project shit on youtube because their family could afford to live. Now everyone is fricking broke all the time. Nobody can afford shit and people are starving. There is no middle class anymore, so all the little rich kiddies who can afford cameras and props to make youtube skits are hustling to make some fricking money because they want to help their parents with mortgage payments or make sure they're not one accident into medical induced bankruptcy debt for life.
It sucks but it's definitely not a 'why dont people wanna make free entertainment for me anymore' and definitely a 'oh shit i can't afford to have hobbies now, only side hustles.' Shit homies can't even game without streaming that shit and ebegging for donations.
That was when internet content was hardly monetizable. Now it's monetizable. Now the space is filled with high-profile people trying to make money. Now you've got audiences asking if you do commissions, if you want to sell your characters as adoptables, and when you talk about bigger projects they suggest opening a patreon. And those that do take money will have enough free time to put out even more content and become those high-profile individuals I mentioned earlier.
It's beyond temptation; monetization is so ubiquitous now that you start to feel stupid if you have a hobby when you could have a "sidegig-hobby".
Everything's encouraging you to sell out. Nothing's encouraging the opposite.
Ever wonder why you see so many central Americans and SEAs running successful social media art accounts? It's because they can make a living off of dirt cheap US$ commissions. Many firstworld internet artists have some other job and therefore have limited time to draw, so if there's somebody actually willing to pay them enough to make drawing somebody else's idea worth their time, that's what they're going to draw and post. And besides, why give shit away for free if somebody else is getting paid to do it?
Ever heard of the "just world" fallacy?
I'll start it. Maybe ease them in with aryan references n shit.
No. You will just get safe edgy shit like Hazbin because there is nowhere to post proper edge and doing so might get your life destroyed but the Twitter police.
What do you mean, "make a comeback"? Edgy "adult" animation dominates the American market even more than children's cartoons nowadays.
It's all safe edgy content. Wake me up when a cartoon character says the Black person-w and proceeds to rape a child for laughs.
It disappeared because all the millennials/90s kids aged out of it. 2000s kids don't want it, 10s kids all eat soap.
>kids born in 2010 are now 14
It's over.
The whole reason liam vickers did murder drones with robots was that so he could do blood/dismemberment/etc but with "oil" to get around the youtube censorship.
And even then the recent episode started getting into that good old blood-n'-body-horror that Liam likes without using oil as a stand-in.
Yeah it was neat. I wonder what's next for him after the next episode.
YouTube and adjacent websites killed that off with their draconian rules.
>Cinemaphile hates drawn together and has hated drawn together for years now
Why do you hate Drawn Together?
>I miss when he made cartoons
You must have him confused with someone else!
DOHOHOHO
sadly he went missing yearrs ago spelunking into his navel. Last known location was somewhere in his upper intestines. RIP
This guy is so self-obsessed it’s embarrassing.
who's this fricker to begin with
MaxG/hotdiggedydemon.
Has all kinds of talent animating and drawing but literally cannot stop fellating his insecurities in front of an audience. Now he’s given up on animation entirely and is streaming Minecraft. Such a fricking waste of space and talent.
Pretty sad how this is the case of nearly every internet animator of the last decade. Can you blame them or the industry that allowed it to happen? The only one who actually somewhat made it was psychicpebbles and even then SF feels a little sterile compared to his earlier work.
Given that Max had work doing cleanup for SpongeBob, you can’t really blame “the industry.” Max clearly had connections and could have, if he chose to, used them to get steady work. He chose to be nothing instead. That’s his fault.
Hordes of Zoomers screeching about Steven israeliteniverse, etc., count as industry pressure. Industry people could tell them to stop crucifying people for jokes, but they refrained from doing so, instead encouraging the behavior in their culture
And SpongeBob is the exception that proves the rule, many things about it are grandfathered in and again, the industry constantly b***hed about it but they can't do anything about it being the popular cartoon with kids
Bro, actual pedophiles work for Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon. Some racist bantz on Twitter is not a dealbreaker. Everyone knows animators are gross degenerate weirdos. No one but a handful of Twitter bots ever cared about israeliteniverse. Rebecca Sugar drew actual CP of Ed and Edd fricking. Alex Herschel fricked underage girls. The lead animator of Clarence had an actual psychotic meltdown. Fricking Sexual Lobster works for Bluey and 99% of his content is about gigolos and meth-addicted orcs.
Max was not anywhere near as toxic as some of these characters.He chose to put it out there publicly and that may have hurt his chances short term, fair enough. But the fact that doors were still open to him after all that is not an exception. It shows that people in the industry understand where most of their talent comes from.
>actual CP
Kindly have a nice day
SU fans are hilarious. Drawing two underage boys fricking is CP, sorry weirdo.
Shut the frick up moron.
Rude newbie
Rude newGOD
Putting weird art in the same category as the actual fricking crime of recording child abuse waters down the term "CP" to the point where people report it to the FBI and flood it over actual CP that they have to sift through. have a nice day.
Go back to X (Formerly Twitter)
Are the characters Edd and Eddy going to have long lasting damage? Are they going to sue?
the kinds of twats that genuinely think cartoon porn of kids is cheese pizza are the exact same as the people that think max's israelite steven is a hate crime which is why it is insanely moronic to try and say he couldn't have a career over it when becky splenda got one
SJWs
have a nice day zoom zoom
>Rebecca Sugar drew actual CP of Ed and Edd fricking
They're drawings. Half of this board's content is people reposting lewd fanart of underage cartoon girls, and no one says anything. It's only apparently bad now because people have a weird vendetta against sugar.
I will say it is kind of weird she drew underage CN boys fricking, considering where she'd later work. The art is actually really fricking funny. I think about that line Edd says, something like "Oh Eddy. What do I see in you?"
Nobody talks about how she drew Ratatouille porn either. She has very specific fandoms she makes porn of and I find what cartoons makes her horny really strange.
>No one but a handful of Twitter bots ever cared about israeliteniverse
the industry cared, that is the important part
>drew
>actual CP
For the last fricking time CP is media of actual children being abused, not drawings that make you uncomfy and drag out "but that's super weird" comments
It's about literal child abuse not an obscenity statute and the distinction isn't semantic just because you don't understand it
>Rebecca Sugar drew actual CP of Ed and Edd fricking
In an effort to be "progressive" you've managed to trivialize and be offensive to victims of actual child abuse by treating drawings as something comparable on the same level, congrats. Now frick off back to the cess pit of twitter or tumblr or what ever shithole you crawled here from.
>be animator
>bust your fricking ass having to practice, improve your skill, and produce videos
>the result is it can take months to have any new "content" to generate revenue
>people who sit around playing videogames and talking make more money and grow larger fanbases with 0.0001% of the effort
>probably even have better relationships with, and get more money from, their fans, instead of people screeching about how it's taking too long for the next cartoon or how this cartoon isn't as good as your last one
It's not hard to understand why so many animators just use their existing fanbase as a starting point for a streaming career. You'll probably see even more of this dropout among online illustrators, who see AIslopper accounts getting followers and commissions with 0.0001% of the effort (and using said artists' works as fuel, no less). Why bother putting in genuine effort to make something decent, when you have slackjawed morons pulling in multiples of your numbers, with some of their fans constituting your own fanbase?
Maybe he'll lose some of his fans who supported his art, but at the end of the day, why bother breaking your ass if hardly anybody cares and your average e-fan is just as happy watching you play Mimecraft?
Lmao I'm not an amazing artist but at least I'm still in the game and don't let my mental issues affect me. He needs therapy
That's easy if you're a leftist as your writing style indicates, even if you're obviously mentally ill that will be ignored because you fit in
Meanwhile Max lacks a supportive artistic environment that wouldn't stab him in the back for a job with people who draw worse than him, that's not "illness," that's poverty for his level of skill.
I was only just thinking about HDD's old Mega64 cartoons this afternoon
I know it sounds like an inconsequential thing now but I remember how at the time Max's lip-syncing was miles ahead of any other Newgrounds animators'
>Now he’s given up on animation entirely and is streaming Minecraft
Holy frick
Im a fellow animator and totally get him. Youtube animation doesnt pay, and he's getting old. Live streaming actually brings in more money a week than a multi million view animation that you spend 4 months on.
Reminder that the only reason anyone knows or remotely cares about him were the edgelord animations featuring the Colorful Horse Show
He made Wacky Game Jokez and Larry, which were pretty good. Then he devoted himself to an edgy pre-teen personality in his mid-20s. It wasn’t the horse show, it was how he went about it.
He’s too much of a self-critic for his own good.
His cartoons Buttface McFartasalot and Diaper Ball Z were both challenges he gave himself to write and animate a whole cartoon in 24 hours. They’re not masterpieces, but they’re good and funny enough that I always wondered “why doesn’t he just take one day a month, and do this every month?” Hell, it doesn’t have to be in 24 hours. He could have just set aside a few days a month just to make a short shitpost cartoon like those and release them on a schedule. He’d still have plenty of down time to work on his longer more involved cartoons that experiment with more shit and have a continuing story, and the regularly scheduled cartoons would keep the bills on.
And Buttface McFartsalot turned out to be someone else's webcomic using a different name but the same exact joke which did not help Max any
Reminder one Hispanic indie animator revealed that Hotdiggedydemon is disliked within the western animation industry, MontyTown mentioned that a storyboard artist from Disney unfollowed him just for saying that he likes Max's animations
I mean, the moment you share a drawing of Steven israeliteniverse, your fate is sealed
>so sensitive he unfollowed someone who merely likes Max
lol. Is this the state of the industry? I swear by some of Max's animations. His good ones are really good. Reminds me of a modern John K, but without the whiny daddy issues and grooming problems.
There it is. It's because he scares the industry israelites.
Colombiagay here, MontyTown is a fricking obnoxious pussy
Isn't he homeless?
If I had Max's animating skills I would be making pilots for shows.
Or hell I'd stay on SpongeBob since they like newgrounds people. Zach did an episode.
>guy does something
>you enjoy it
>guy does something else
>you would most likely enjoy it since you enjoyed guys past work
>instead, you complain
This is the most amazingly moronic aspect of consumer psychology. What is he supposed to do, then, make the same cartoon over and over again? His animations are undoubtedly available somewhere. Also, hotdiggetydemon's cartoons weren't even funny so whatever he's doing now is probably better.
>You must have confused me with someone else
women won't have sex with me because I'm racist
I'm racist because women won't have sex with me
I heard he had to eat one of his cats when he went homeless
Something like that messes you up
>nooo you have to serve the same slop for eternity and never change or you're a sellout!
And then if they do, you'll cry that he is a sellout for doing the same thing over and over and should do something different