>I said get liquored up and take them to the Peach Tree dance
How do you respond without blowing your cover?
>I said get liquored up and take them to the Peach Tree dance
>I said get liquored up and take them to the Peach Tree dance
How do you respond without blowing your cover?
>Absolutely, hahaha
*Change subject*
Literally me at the beach
Scene shows Plainview was right and did nothing wrong.
Did he really have to beat Eli to death tho?
Yes because Eli was the villain, a fraudster fake priest exploiting people for money.
i thought that ending excessive and jarring
anon, the title was 'there will be blood'. you knew this was coming.
Its actually called There will be blood (sweat and tears) its a play on words to also imply there will be violence
>we can finally get good liquor now. Thanks to you, Daniel. Better peaches, too. *laughs*
>Hey Plainview I have all the horses
why did Henry feel the need to commit to such a story? he was going to get exposed at some point
he could've just as easily came to Daniel that first time
>hey I knew a guy who said he was your brother, here's his journal
daniel still would've given him a job and maybe even strike up a friendship
it was a different time, being a conman was easier and more profitable in hard economic times.
Everyone Plainview deals with in the movie is a conman trying to exploit people.
While hes a real man that crawled through blood sweat and tears to get where he was.
but he didn't need to be a conman? it didn't do anything for him
His plan was to grift off Plainviews fortune for as long as he could, then probably leave.
He just got caught.
Really common story, especially back then
it got him a right hand seat at the table for million dollar deals nonstop
>While hes a real man that crawled through blood sweat and tears to get where he was.
Yep. I remember listening to that Tarantino radio review of TWBB way back, and he pointed out (the fairly obvious but I'm moronic) that we don't see the journey Daniel makes to the surgeon after he finds his oil well. He made it all the way back to civilization, risking sickness, disease, blood loss, DEATH, but he fricking made it. He earned that first oil well in the beginning of the film, and it's this unseen journey that likely earns his arrogance for the rest of the film.
his age at the beginning is interesting because hes not a young man, hes an older man that probably suffered from a lot of failure and hes trying his luck prospecting, hoping to turn his life around.
I think its also symbolic in how he prefers steak. He went without a long time and so just wants to eat high quality meat now hes made it.
>hell yeah bro I love raping women *high five*
Hugh…men…
>oh the Peach Tree dance! Ha ha!
>welp I’m going to swim ten yards into the ocean and take a piss I’ll be right back!
Would have saved his life.
Why didn't Daniel rape him before he killed him, is what I always wondered? It's not like they were related.
Hey Chad Moss
it's clownworld to me that the only person ive read really get this movie in a review was Tarantino.
>it's clownworld to me that the only person ive read really get this movie in a review was Tarantino.
Where did he write it?
https://invidious.perennialte.ch/watch?v=Ym_0IS0AUD0
This scene gave me the heebie jeebies. I have no idea how. It makes me feel physically uneasy, like I'm about to puke.
The whole movie has an extremely unsettling horror movie soundtrack. I kept waiting for the jump scare.
I forgot the explanation how would Daniel not recognize his brother? were they really far apart age wise? if thats the case why would they know the same references, if they were close enough to get peach tree dance how could he confuse a stranger for his brother
it is definitely an unnerving sequence especially the conman's face and Daniel's realization after seemingly having a nice moment with his brother
they were separated after a certain age. The peach dance was a memory WITH his brother.
He's pretending to be his step brother, from his father's second marriage. So Daniel's father might have left at some point when he was young to go live with another woman. Daniel hasn't ever met his brother and that's why he's surprised when he meets him.
break into hysterical laughter
>I don't really remember much about the past after I fell off my horse and hit my head
and then he would kill me because that's a terrible lie
>YOU'RE A BASTARD FROM A BASKET
How do you use your words without sounding like a moron?
>YOU WERE A JANNY IN A BASKET!
>Daniel crawled across the desert on his back
>when there are perfectly good tent poles to hobble on
Was he moronic?
What exactly is the "peach-tree dance"? Sex? Rape? How does that metaphor connect to that?
It's just a community event people who grew up where he did would have to know about.
morons. The dance was made up. He knew that if the guy went along with it that he would know he was lying. There was no Peach Tree Dance.
no moron it was real, the guy didn't respond correctly because it was something he had no idea about.
Its supposed to signify Plainview letting his guard down and confiding in someone he truly thought was his brother.
He allowed his protective misanthropy to lapse and let someone in, only to be used and betrayed. A foolish mistake
for the conman!
its obviously a festival unique to the very specific small closeknit community he grew up in.
Where they had a courting dance festival with the girls.
He did the absolutely WORST thing by just staying quiet and looking somewhat confused. Even just a fricking chuckle would have probably put Daniel at ease
dude was drunk and was having a real moment of introspection, the con was fleeting because it had just become his life
Did Daniel lie about Paul here just to frick with Eli? He paid him $500 when he met him. It doesn't seem like Daniel would seek him out afterward and get him set up in the business.
Eli's deal was he was a bully that manipulated people. He wanted to parasitically get wealthy off Plainviews charity to the community by larping as a priest in a literal cult he made up.
Paul was the honest brother and got exactly what he was promised
Paul is really just a stupid sap who sold his community out for $500, though. You could say that Little Boston is better off after the drilling than before, but Daniel makes it clear to HW that he doesn't actually pay any of them a fair share.
I think Daniel was fair, he uplifted communities he did drilling in out of his own pocket.
Also people seem to forget hes selling oil to fuel companies who turn it into barrels of fuel. Hes making good money but hes not at the top of the money making totem pole.
He's not fair. He gives a speech in the beginning about how other oil men won't give the locals their due, but after they decline his offer he goes further off a bit to drill around outside the fields, probably hoping to take advantage of drainage. Later, he refutes his earlier speech in private to HW by saying "we'll give them quail prices", meaning he pockets most of the money for himself.
Quail prices is referring to the land bought, not the oil underneath which he gives a cut to the town.
Building things they need and revitalising it, like a school which educates their kids.
Not bad for no work.
>Quail prices is referring to the land bought
That shows you how he deals with them though, and Daniel makes just about every deal in the film personally, meaning they have to take him for his word that he's giving them what's fair.
He had to be competitive and have an element of cutthroatedness in a competitive gold rush industry but he fairly compensates the entire town.
The film suggests otherwise, because Eli is never paid the money he was promised, and the conversation he has with his father after he's beaten suggests they've all accepted that Daniel hasn't followed through with his promises.
Because the deal was made to Paul at the beginning.
Eli wasnt owed anything. Eli became rich off Plainviews charity
No, Paul only sells the information to where the oil can be found. Daniel makes a deal with Eli for the Sunday's land for $5000 on the condition that they drill and the well produces oil, which he never pays him. Daniel then goes to the real estate agent and buys up all of everyone else's land without telling anyone that he intends to drill, so he can buy at the regular prices. Once Daniel owns the land, the people there have no right to the oil, and Daniel has no probably taking oil even from under land he doesn't own. He is a shyster.
Eli wanted 10k for himself. Not the land.
He then went down to 5k, for the church.
Then they built the church for him.
When he comes over and Daniel slaps the shit oit of him hes begging for 5k for himself but refers to our money as in the church.
Building the church doesn't mean he gave him the $5k, and Daniel is purchasing rights to drill on the land with that money. Daniel does bring in workers and build infrastructure, but there's no evidence he provides the townspeople with a fair cut of the profit. He makes a grand speech like he does to all of the people he sells himself to, and as the film progresses little Boston never changes much into what he promised.
Daniel bought the land off his father who owned it. He shook on it with Paul.
There was no deal with Eli, Eli is literally trying to extort money off Daniel and hes not the owner
As I showed before, even Abel implies he's aware the family has been cheated by Daniel, and he doesn't deal for the Sunday family anyway, Eli does. When he comes to Daniel he isn't just pulling some arbitrary sum out of his ass, he's referring to money that Daniel promised to him, either the signing bonus or royalties that he has reneged on.
You missed the importance of the dialogue. Eli isnt asking for 10k for the land, hes asking for it for "his" church.
Hes trying to extort Daniel by scuttling the deal between him and his father, Eli's also shown to be bullying his father.
Daniel talks him down but Eli never had a signed agreement. The money he was asking had nothing to do with buying the property.
He asks him for 5k for himself not his family.
Eli's not scuttling anything with his father, the father is too meek to actually deal with Daniel himself and defers to Eli throughout the whole conversation. Eli asks for $10k, Daniel says "what for?" as in "that's a hefty price what the hell are you going to do with $10k?". It seems like Eli is not going to budge on his ask, and Daniel turns to Abel to get him to accept the cheaper price because he knows he's meek. Eli is not asking for money for himself, Daniel is there specifically to get the rights to drill on their land, and Eli is setting the price.
No, you twit hes threatening to scuttle PLAINVIEWS deal by interjecting about the oil then demanding 10k when he stated about 3700 for the property.
Frick off you idiot
>Eli is not asking for money for himself,
Yes. He literally is, watch the scene again
>for MY church.
>Daniel offers $3700
>Abel is flustered and looks easily controllable
>Eli interjects and raises the price to $10,000, still for the land
>Daniel asks what he'll spend 10,000 on, Eli says a church
>they fix on $5000
At no point in the scene does Eli get or ask for any money on top of what is being offered to buy the land, he is negotiating the price of the land on behalf of his father who is too meek to get a good price for them.
Its 3700 for the land, Eli interjects and asks about the oil.
This is him trying to get Daniel in a bind, remember he asks does anyone know about the oil to Paul. He doesnt want the offer to be about the oil.
Daniel then says give ME 10k for MY church if oil is found, not his father.
This is AFTER the land is bought, if oil is found.
Hes talked down to 5k but its not part of the land deal.
If I remember correctly, it very much seemed Paul resented his family and didn’t think they deserved any better.
well his dads abusive to his daughter and Eli is a sociopath.
Paul was the good one and the smart one
Couldn't it be possible that Eli believed his own bullshit?
Eli was a snake, its pretty clear in the final scene hes just a rich charlatan that uses people for money, thats why he begs Plainview for more.
Plainview always knew he was a piece of shit.
Eli being a snake is likely true but the moment where Daniel says (sarcastically)
>The lord sometimes challenges us doesn't he Eli?
And Eli answers in the affirmative, completely sincerely, along with the sort of panicked
>He's failed to alert me to the recent panic in our economy!
We can disagree but it's never once crossed my mind that Eli didn't think he was a servant of god.
Eli was blowing the money on hookers and booze its implied.
Plainview is disgusted at him.
>Eli was blowing the money on hookers and booze its implied.
Wat. When?
Its implied hes been living it up in luxury, he drinks and the suit and gaudy cross he wears is all supposed to indicate hes a fake.
The drinks are Daniel's and the suit is something he wore to Daniel's because you wear something nice when you're gonna ask for money. A nice suit doesn't imply you blow your money on hookers and drink.
No shit its Daniels, he drinks, a Priest that heads a church that drinks lol
He wears an expensive suit because hes rich!
Thats why Plainview tells him to say he is a false prophet.
>No shit its Daniels, he drinks, a Priest that heads a church that drinks lol
Yeah why not?
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>He wears an expensive suit because hes rich!
We don't know how expensive it was. I think you're reading waaaay more into it. A nice suit doesn't equal you're an alcoholic or that you blow your money on hookers. Let's just agree to disagree friend you won't ever convince me Eli was a fiend for pussy just because he wore a suit and wanted to share a drink with Daniel.
you arent reading anything into it. The whole point of the entire scene is Plainview confirming Eli isn't really a devout priest and hes been scamming the community
There's not much TO read. Eli is a worm, the Great Depression is hitting his funds, he goes to Daniel for money, calling on money owed from fricking years ago like a little shit.
> isn't really a devout priest
Again, Daniel says (sarcastically)
>The lord sometimes challenges us doesn't he Eli?
And Eli answers in the affirmative, completely sincerely, along with the sort of panicked
>He's failed to alert me to the recent panic in our economy!
>A priest drinking is unusual
In what city?
>wearing a nice suit indicates wealth
I can buy a nice suit for 100 bucks man.
>Saying you think God is a superstition
Because he's a worm who needs money.
>A real religious person wouldnt say that for money
A real religious person wouldn't diddle kids but that happens too. My last post.
he wasnt owed any money the money he wanted was personal money he was trying to extort out of Daniel AFTER he bought the land.
Daniel literally asks a priest to denounce god for money, Eli does it proving hes a fraud and a prostitute
I don't know what you are missing. A priest drinking is unusual, wearing a nice suit indicates wealth.
Saying you think God is a superstition. a real religious person wouldnt say that for money.
also its why he gets so mad at Eli because he was the revelation. He made the community prosper and Eli is a false idol.
He condemns Eli with all the righteous fury of a real firebrand priest
>Did Daniel lie about Paul here just to frick with Eli?
Yes he lied to him because he wanted to hurt him.
He added the value of inflation.
of course
i dont think hes lying. I think he promised the cash when he found the oil.
So he was happy with Paul and gave him 10k because frick Eli
>MY STRAW GOES ALLLLL THE WAY ACROSS THE ROOM
as silly as that scene is its just another selling point of one of the all time best movies
i need to rewatch this so i know which poster is full of shit
You are
what did i do to you homosexual?
He also forces Eli to say im a false prophet and god is a superstition
It PROVES hes not a real man of faith. hes in fact a prostitute for money.
>10,000 dollas
the dude was a fricking wasted wreck, its just as likely he just forgot the actual price because money is obviously meaningless to him at that point and he was more ethanol than man at that point
If you are making a deal to buy some land and some little homosexual comes along and says "and give me 10k for my personal start up too"
How would you feel?
and Eli coming to him at the end hes attempting to repeat the same scam twice.
Thats why Daniel rubs it in his face and yells DRAINAGE.
Thats not the point the peach tree dance was real.
He should have replied "good times"
Instead he didnt reply indicating it meant nothing to him