I think it's really funny how every attempt at creating a new Robin just ends up making a worse version than the last one.
I think it's really funny how every attempt at creating a new Robin just ends up making a worse version than the last one.
I think it's really funny how every attempt at creating a new Robin just ends up making a worse version than the last one.
it's really funny how UGLY as shit Batman is.
minus the fact that Damian is a cute and loyal tough young sidekick like Robin is supposed to be while Dick is a whiney entitled pain-in-the-ass 40-year-old manchild moaning about daddy all the time
Tell me again how you haven't read a comic published in the last 20 years.
The most recent Batman issue proved his point further. Dick's just a homosexual homosexual nothingburger whose only narrative role is being a self-insert for men too hipster to wanna be batman so they wanna be the gay who thinks they're hotter shit, resulting in a "character" whose only character is people memeing about him having a homosexual's butt.
BATshit is just as much as a homosexual homosexual nothingburger pedophile who kidnaps little boys or if he's not doing that he either worships Superman as a god or wants to frick the Joker.
Both can get fricked off, woman.
>while Dick is a whiney entitled pain-in-the-ass 40-year-old manchild moaning about daddy all the time
He literally left and became his own thing? And was even Batman for a while?
and yet continues to orbit Batman the entire time being a whiney entitled pain-in-the-ass 40-year-old manchild moaning about daddy all the time, nonetheless. His only claim to fame is being the whiniest legacy.
Nah DC is for fixing this debate for good
As their last attempt to make damian more beloved by readers they just ruined every other bat family member in the recent event Gotham war
Smart move DC, a very smart move .
DC is fixing it by pushing Dick instead.
With the two World's Finest books, plus random extras like the Batman Audio Adventures book, Dick has shown up as Robin more than any other character this year.
n52 is, indeed, trash.
Accept no substitutes.
Quitely makes him look like a catamite.
YJK
I'm genuinely curious what was DC thinking when they made Tim gay ?
did they seriously taught people will like him more and all of gay people will magically start reading comics because of that
I know DC is retareded but not this retareded
Right? Right?
It was they could market a semi relevant Bat Family character in a pride event without having to make Bruce or Dick gay.
Tim has been struggling for relevance a lot lately, making him gay was both to give him some kind of niche so he could stand out but also so DC could seem like they're progressive and diverse, they pretty much wanted a gay token but didn't want to do it with any of the more popular Robins, so they did it with Tim.
I like all Robins.
I like Dick, Jason, Steph, and Damian.
Based
But they all homosexuals and dykes
But only Tim Drake is Tim Drake
Damian and batgirl exists
See, TT go! Done right to make him a joke.
So you're saying that the other Robins act like dicks!
CARLOS!
Everyone wants Dick.
Why are all Batman fans pathological liars?
You tell me.
Are you one? If so, why do you lie?
I'm ask the same. Are you female or homosexual by any chance?
>Are you female or homosexual by any chance?
Are you?
Are you?
I'm not, but are you?
I'm not either, you are?
>I'm not, but are you?
>I'm not either, you are?
>just ends up making a worse version than the last one
Yet only one could sustain a solo for 15, almost 20 years.
>He's a homosexual
Are we really going to lie to our selves anon
>israelite retcon
Dont remind me.
Tim was best when he was a israelite, ironically.
To be fair, the only reason Dick didn't get a solo in the late 80s like every other big name character was because he was carrying the Titans franchise.
At best he'd have headlined an anthology. The Batbooks got a boost thanks to the movies, their sales in the 80's were appallingly low, like even beyond 80's standards.
>>The best Robin already exists.
Here she is.
Here's what I don't get
At the beginning of BTAS Bruce is in his early to mid 30s
Dick Grayson was in university at the start of BTAS, putting him somewhere between 18-21
We also know that it had been about 10 years since Dick's parents were killed
So somebody tell me
Who the frick didn't think it was weird a 22 year old bachelor was adopting a 9 year old boy
It's Gotham city first so rich people can do anything
And secondly if I remember correctly it was a common knowledge that Bruce witnessed Dick 's parents dying
So the public probably just saw it as a rich orphan kid decided to help and raise another orphan
But Damian is way better than Tim in every way. Tim's only contribution is having the modern classic Robin look that most cartoon designs use.
They exist for two entirely different niches. Tim is the Robin meant to work as a solo brand independent of Batman but in his orbit.
Damian is meant to be the partner Robin. He exists to always be with a Batman and learn from him. He exists to solve the conundrum normies have of why would Batman"recruit a random orphan"(yes, I know outside of Jason he's never "recruited" them, normies don't know) by being a highly trained kid who's his son. It's a graspable concept
Both have merits, but Damian works best as the "last Robin" for Bruce.
I genuinely dont know why people like Damian
Characters with unlikable personalities aren't necessarily unlikable. Conceptually I like Damian as being what a kid in his circumstances- the son of Batman, raised by assassins with a delusion of grandeur, would be. A deadly brat. When this angle is played up and characters react to it thusly, the contrast of him being a complete wienery ass, but also a misguided kid, it can lead to great interactions. when it's just used to power wank him or to show him as a precocious scamp, it can be annoying.
That said, Damian growing out of some things and maturing is fine, but he should retain some flaws.
>Damian works best as the "last Robin" for Bruce.
Damian worked better with DickBats than he ever has with Bruce.
Dick is cool.
Your dick cold?
Tim Drake from 1989-2004 has one of the best arcs of any character, and from that alone he remains one of the better big two characters.
This could've been the last Tim Drake story ever and it would've been fine.
It literally doesn't matter what happens to him after this, because he's made his decision.
His friends dying? Sure. Getting replaced? sure. At this point, he's basically accepted that he's going to go through the typical superhero bullshit.
He's accepted never going back to a "Real life". The retread of this story a few months later was considerably weaker. which would be the canary in the coal mine for a lot about the next 20 years.
Tim should have retired when Dixon left the book the first time.
Or Tim should have died in Infinite Crisis instead of Superboy.
Or Tim should have committed suicide during that era where his dad, Superboy, Steph, and Bart were all dead, and he was doing dumb shit like trying to make a Superboy clone in the basement of Titans Tower, and they did the Very Special Issue of Robin with a suicide hotline at the end.
Or Tim should have been written out of continuity in the New 52.
Dixon's run had been dipping, that whole boy's school era was kinda weak. Plus he left suddenly. Lewis' plots/stories were weird but he wrote a good Tim, and that story is the best place to leave the character. Take away the last three pages, it can work both ways(hurrdurr), you can choose to believe he walks away, the years of being a hero just a memory. Or he accepts the bullshit which, in a meta way, is the cycle of bullshit the last 20 years have been.
The last Tim Drake story should give Tim a chance to go back in time and choose to retire.
Tim's dad gets to live. Tim goes to college and stays close with Ives. Tim never meets Bernard because the Williamson run never happens.
>the Williamson run
?
Sorry, Willingham.
Tim is better than Jason though.
Yeah, better at SUCKING DICK.
definitely an upgrade
Batman is the biggest loser in DC. He's a coward too.
Are Batcucks getting used to be insulted now? Where the frick are the replies?
>I think it's really funny how every attempt at creating a new Robin just ends up making a worse version than the last one.
but Tim is the worst one anon, what are you talking about?
the fact thar Tim cannot exist in a wolrd where both Damian and Jason exist means he was always a shit character.
its like how Miles needed Peter dead to work because otherwise he's redundant at best and nothing at worst.
>the fact thar Tim cannot exist in a wolrd where both Damian and Jason exist
He can and in fact it would be incredibly easy to, the problem is modern cape writers are completely moronic and are incapable of grasping even the basics of character writing.
how many comics have you read before 2002?
The only one that worked
Where did all the batgays go? After being called out on their pathetic lies they just stopped replying.