Like I said 2 threads ago if the Simpsons does an MCU parody we call that a zombie ass move. Even though the MCU is still ongoing.
Just because the party is still going doesn't mean you can't be late to it.
has anybody besides south park tackled parodying the racebending shit yet? I'd think most shows would be afraid to do that because they'd get accused of being racist or something. south park seems like one of the only shows that could parody that and not get called out for it.
And who are you to tell me I can't call south park a stale show run by spoiled burn outs that are just mad nobody gives a shit about their 3 years of weed jokes?
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>And who are you to tell me I can't call south park a stale show run by spoiled burn outs that are just mad nobody gives a shit about their 3 years of weed jokes?
You can say whatever you want about the show, but complaing about what they can or cannot talk about is just moronic. Complain about the quality of the episode when it comes out instead of b***hing and moaning about the topic it talks about, you wienersucker.
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>abloo bloo bloo why won't anyone let me beat my dead horse in peace
If they want the benefit of the doubt maybe they shouldn't rely on making the same jokes you gays have been making since 2011.
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>Resorting to "abloo abloo abloo"
I accept your concession, go complain about what people should or shouldn't talk about on twitter like all the other thought police morons.
7 months ago
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>even though the episode isn't out yet, I know literally everything about it
ok
7 months ago
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bloo bloo
Why is it cringe leftoids that always say this.
7 months ago
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Lurk at least 15 years before posting
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>Resorting to "abloo abloo abloo"
I accept your concession, go complain about what people should or shouldn't talk about on twitter like all the other thought police morons.
>You can say whatever you want about the show, but complaing about what they can or cannot talk about is just moronic
Nobody was complaining about what they talk about, the complaint was about when they said it. They are pointing out something that everyone with a brain cell already noticed years ago
No, this is the perfect answer to Disney live action. Can't wait until all Youtube neckbeards show true colors and get mad once this episode is like "Race and gender don't matter."
trust me when i say most creative would rather create original IPs with diverse MCs then have to rehash an existing one and race swap a character. it's usually studios execs that's demand this stuff because they want the brownie points without actually investing in an original ip
i dont think its been confirmed, but a lot of people think that the Velma show was supposed to be something original and warner bros made them attach it to scooby doo in order to greenlight it. it would explain why scooby wasn't in it, because they probably didn't have a large talking dog in the original pitch
While that's 100% true that doesn't actually solve the problem most anons have which is seeing non whites at all. When a studio takes a chance on some original thing they'll just keep on complaining. Like with every disney tv cartoon made in the last decade.
>While that's 100% true that doesn't actually solve the problem most anons have which is seeing non whites at all
You gays always bleat about this nonsense and act like it isn't a (warrented) immune response to a landslide of poorly executed and shoehorned nonsense over the last couple years.
Gamers didn't rise up when Coach and Rochelle took over half the L4D cast because both of them are solid original characters, and the general mainstream media hadn't squandered all of its good will at the time. If a black character is introduced now and receives a shit response, it's because they are the latest in a 50 mile line of shittily executed only-exists-to-be-black characters, not because everyone outside of your echo chamber is racist.
>If a black character is introduced now and receives a shit response, it's because they are the latest in a 50 mile line of shittily executed only-exists-to-be-black characters,
The fact that you're assuming they're going to be that from the start is a self fufilling prophecy.
Nobody is going to give companies the benefit of the doubt after all the garbage they have produced. Good word of mouth works better than advertisement now, look at Guardians of the Galaxy 3
Most "racists" tend to ignore original content that caters to minority demographics. There have been at least 2 cartoons within the last 3 years that were all about gays and trannies and everyone ignored them because both shows were clearly labeled as such from the get go. People only get mad when existing IPs they invested time in go woke.
>Like with every disney tv cartoon made in the last decade.
Holy fricking shit will you FRICKING LISTEN TO YOURSELF.
"Every Disney cartoon made in the last decade", it's as though you almost recognize the common denominator.
How many more decades are going to pass that you keep blaming the audience? This shit is stale, stop forcing this shit into every damn IP. The only reason people aren't publicly telling you that it sucks is because you keep threatening the well-being of anyone that tells you it's garbage.
While that's 100% true that doesn't actually solve the problem most anons have which is seeing non whites at all. When a studio takes a chance on some original thing they'll just keep on complaining. Like with every disney tv cartoon made in the last decade.
I know but with almost everything people don't direct there anger at the ones that deserve it the most
Characters created with the intent of being diverse are always generic stereotypes. The racist strawman doesn't work when black anime characters are popular
>The racist strawman doesn't work when black anime characters are popular
it doesn't work on black anime characters because weebs will bend over backwards to come up with reasons why said characters aren't actually black.
You see it happen a lot with yoruichi and all those cloud village homies in naruto.
Yoruichi is literally royalty from 100 years ago, there's a bigger change if her being okinawan than black. For some reason americans believe that only black people have dark skin.
Letting that aside there's black characters who are literally american and people likes them too
japanese royalty* just to be clear. You are saying that the japanese royalty has black people in it
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No, but I may have dropped Bleach before they dropped that factoid.
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It's explained in the second arc when Soi Fong appears and again in the flashback arc. Maybe you are also uneducated in your other assumptions
>The racist strawman doesn't work when black anime characters are popular
it doesn't work on black anime characters because weebs will bend over backwards to come up with reasons why said characters aren't actually black.
You see it happen a lot with yoruichi and all those cloud village homies in naruto.
Braindead post.
Black anime characters ARE generic stereotypes. They may be well-writen in other ways, but they are made by people who have likely have never seen a real black person in their lives and view them and the most widespread parts of their culture (i.e. stereotypes) as something exotic, so this is emphasized in the work they make. A charactr in anime will never casually be black, this is always going to be a big deal and their character is likely going to be loud and bombastic because of that.
>A charactr in anime will never casually be black, this is always going to be a big deal and their character is likely going to be loud and bombastic because of that.
Look at me casually proving you wrong
>A charactr in anime will never casually be black, this is always going to be a big deal and their character is likely going to be loud and bombastic because of that.
I am confident they have traits that are stereotypically associated with black people. Being tough, athletic, stubborn, etc.
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>tough, athletic,
They are part of an action manga, all the important characters are like that. >stubborn
Not really
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Why do lefties always turn into the worst racists? Here's a black character that doesn't apply to any of those. He's neither though nor athletic, his stands are always physically weaker, and he changes plans on the fly in every confrontation
7 months ago
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The Democrats created the KKK and invited them to host Klanbakes at their national convention. Don't be surprised when these same people reveal themselves to be insane racists who promote the soft bigotry of low expectations.
7 months ago
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This is why I'm a proud republican
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The Democrats created the KKK and invited them to host Klanbakes at their national convention. Don't be surprised when these same people reveal themselves to be insane racists who promote the soft bigotry of low expectations.
>mutt thinks we care about his politics
7 months ago
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Who is we? Are they in the room with you right now? Are they in the walls?
7 months ago
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Pucci is a dark skinned Italian.
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His brother was specifically killed by the KKK for having a black dad, the italian linage comes from his mother
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>His brother was specifically killed by the KKK for having a black dad
Actually no; he was adopted by another mom and that mom was in a relationship with the black guy. The PI used this thought process to assume Weather was half black and lynched him.
>A charactr in anime will never casually be black, this is always going to be a big deal and their character is likely going to be loud and bombastic because of that.
not anime, don't know why you replied to that specific post with this picture
it's so fricking hilarious still, i read the narration in bullhorn's voice every time
While that's 100% true that doesn't actually solve the problem most anons have which is seeing non whites at all. When a studio takes a chance on some original thing they'll just keep on complaining. Like with every disney tv cartoon made in the last decade.
I only hate it when they try and shoehorn in diversity into shit like medieval inspired settings and other cultural appropriation of western shit. I don't give a shit about Encantanto or whatever. I don't give a shit about diversity. But seeing black knights and vikings will always be fricking cringe as hell.
The idea that people have a problem with brown people which maybe is true for a lot of these anons but they don't get mad over that content. At the end of the day they don't care if you have your shit they just don't want what's "theirs" taken away from them.
Well yeah same, but it was a movie about Maleficent. Its not like it was a live action remake of Sleeping Beauty. They made a live action spin off about the villain. For anyone reading this unaware, basically the same thing they did with Cruella DeVille years later. Which is I guess annoying for any hardcore sleeping beauty superfans out there, but it was different enough that it was fine and a bunch of people could manage. I watched it with my mom and sister when it came out and it was nice enough.
But even my family who tends to let the cheesiest of bullshit movies slide watched the Alladin remake or something, I forgot what it was but it was one of those overhaul remakes of an entire film and its preexisting plot, and they hated it (as did I).
NOBODY likes the flat-out remakes.
The villain's pet dalmations are called by dog whistle from off screen, run across an estate field, jump over cruella, to literally push her mother off a cliff, not they maul her and while fleeing she falls, the dog PUSHES her with his paws.
Hear me out about Kenny
Has anyone pointed out it's literally Gogo
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>Has anyone pointed out it's literally Gogo
Yes, multiple people
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godlike ass
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Just got a flashback to that clip of Cruella's tragic backstory being something like wild dalmatians pushed her mother off a cliff.
She’s so irredeemable they had to make it the Dalmatians’ fault she hates them so much. Feminism is a hell of a drug.
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women are legitimately moronic
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You COULD do a compelling movie with Cruella as the sympathetic protagonist, but DISNEY cannot do that kind of movie because it wouldn't fit with their shallow ass grrl power brand.
Set the movie in the post-war 50s, show Cruella as a bullied child stuffed into a soul crushing posh bording school where she is punished with the cane for being disruptive and implied slightly insane. Repeatedly show the audience time and again how so little animal welfare was considered in 1950s England, and this is the culture that is drilled into her - animals have no souls, animals can't feel pain, animals exist to serve man.
Follow her growing up as a rebellious feminist fasion icon, a darling of 60s women lib being a cut throat boss in a world where men still are the leaders of buisness.
Show that Cruella, due to her upbringing, just cannot UNDERSTAND why the hypocritical public think killing cows for leather or foxes for fur is any different from culling dogs for their coats. And then show how time marches on forward without her as due to her old values she has become a relic of the past just like the old fur coats and turn of the century feather hats that once inspired her.
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>Has anyone pointed out it's literally Gogo
That's what makes it better
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the token asian with a hair streak is a trope of its own
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Why haven't people pointed out how racist this is?
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Is it really racist for people with a single hair color to play around with that at times?
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Because it isn't racist at all. Characters of all races dye their hair, especially women.
the token asian with a hair streak is a trope of its own
The only reason Knives even dyed her hair was because she was copying Ramona, a white girl that dies her hair a different color every week..
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Because it's not. It's an appealing aesthetic like black people with afros.
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She’s so irredeemable they had to make it the Dalmatians’ fault she hates them so much. Feminism is a hell of a drug.
You COULD do a compelling movie with Cruella as the sympathetic protagonist, but DISNEY cannot do that kind of movie because it wouldn't fit with their shallow ass grrl power brand.
Set the movie in the post-war 50s, show Cruella as a bullied child stuffed into a soul crushing posh bording school where she is punished with the cane for being disruptive and implied slightly insane. Repeatedly show the audience time and again how so little animal welfare was considered in 1950s England, and this is the culture that is drilled into her - animals have no souls, animals can't feel pain, animals exist to serve man.
Follow her growing up as a rebellious feminist fasion icon, a darling of 60s women lib being a cut throat boss in a world where men still are the leaders of buisness.
Show that Cruella, due to her upbringing, just cannot UNDERSTAND why the hypocritical public think killing cows for leather or foxes for fur is any different from culling dogs for their coats. And then show how time marches on forward without her as due to her old values she has become a relic of the past just like the old fur coats and turn of the century feather hats that once inspired her.
The Dalmatian remake is weird because Disney already made a serviceable live action remake with Glenn Close.
Same with the 90s Jungle Book movie. Although I suppose since that one is completely different from the animated movie you could justify a 2nd LA movie. It's a great 90s era action-adventure movie that no one remembers. Check it out if you haven't.
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It’s all coming back to me
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>Boone: What do you have that I don't? >Mowgli: Strength of a bear! >Speed of a panther! >Heart of a wolf! >...and very sharp teeth.
It was kino. Even all the villain's henchmen had memorable deaths.
>They WANT to get cancelled. The south park guys have wanted to quit for a while which is why you only get like 6 episodes a year now.
couldn't they just not renew their contracts the next time it comes up?
https://i.imgur.com/BvlKwPH.jpg
I think this joke is coming a few years too late
honestly I'm just waiting for the porn and fetish art this special will generate
I hope that new Snow Day game is gonna have a story. And that in said story we're gonna get Tweek being Craig's lovesick girly wife in need of protecting again
>wanting a shitty wannabe heterosexual dynamic that completely erases Tweek's violent spastic schizo personality in favour of making him act like a limp-wristed homosexual
Absolutely abhorrent taste
YOU GET IT. I need schizo, unshowered, /x/ addict Tweek fricking Craig and using him as more of a sheild from his gangstalkers than as a crutch.
Tweek canonically has a baby dick. He won't satisfy anyone.
Fym canonically. The measurements of the kids' penises that cartman took? Of all the elementary schoolers? No shit.
CANONICALLY Craig uses tumblr
CANONICALLY Craig lead and formed and got matching outfits for his friends in the metrosexual phase and pranced around on a gay pride parade float spinning around.
Craig was the one shot with cupid me's arrow.
They're both gay and that's that, but if we're gonna get all technical here, Craig is the actual homosexual.
Why do zoomers defend lazy raceswaps? Is it because they're dumb kids who grew up with this and defend it as anything but lazy cashgrab representation?
Turning a character black does not combat representation. It takes away whereas creating a new character takes away from no one.
Zoomers don't have mental autonomy, silly. If Zoomers defends something it's because they were programmed to defend it. Do you think Zoomers even know what racism is? Do you think they've ever so much as encountered a homeless person?
I'm just saying that zoomers for whatever reason, seem to think these things are unironically good instead of being the epitome of cynical lazy cash grabs, and the raceswaps done in earnest to 'add representation' fall short because raceswaps only really exist as what I mentioned above.
The only time this isn't the case is when there isn't some rule about "representation" and you could turn a character white. That's the only time it's honest.
>It takes away whereas creating a new character takes away from no one.
You're saying this on a site that thinks that this commercial was promoting white genocide
Perhaps but it's not the true userbase. Just the /misc/homosexuals.
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/misc/ does leak to the entire site, yes.
the 2016 and 2020 american elections massively decreased the quality of the website by bringing in tourists, even more stormgays, and literal actual boomers who's hobbies include talking about houseplants and sharing recipes. these morons think the entire website is some kind of le redpilled political echochamber for them to jerk off to their own political moronation and their favorite grifters.
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>the 2016 and 2020 american elections
dude that commercials are white genocide thing is from 2013.
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He's only been here since 2021
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i never said /misc/tards didn't exist before 2016. they just weren't nearly as bad, and they were occasionally even amusing. boomers are never amusing.
>Why do zoomers defend lazy raceswaps?
Because defending the political party that controls corporations gives you the ability to harass others with impunity
They don't feel guilty because of dead grandpappy, they feel guilty because of their facebook aunts, maga uncles, and younger siblings that frequent Cinemaphile.
Some people just don't give a shit, and were raised in an environment that encouraged tolerance and understanding. I remember being 11 and arguing online that there's nothing inherently wrong with Miles Morales back when his first comic came out in 2011 because the mainline Peter is still alive. Though this was a different time and I got soured on Miles since then, but this is probably how a lot of kids unironically perceive these things, they'e too young to have real stances on this. As a teen I could agree with people saying that making Johnny Storm black is unnecessary but I also was generally fine with it because it seemed like something new and different and I was open to it. Though nowadays it's so widespread I imagine it's harder to view it this way.
What is that and why should I care. That looks like shit and I don't even have to think about watching it because it's already left my mind as a concept.
Pfffftt
What the frick are those masks?
What are those outfits?
homie you could replace her with the whitest white guy ever and it would still look like shit
What was the budget for this?
Pfffftt
What the frick are those masks?
What are those outfits?
homie you could replace her with the whitest white guy ever and it would still look like shit
What was the budget for this?
"Attack The Block" already did this aesthetic better
>hood
okay, that's pretty good, though. Not at all a raceswap, in this case, since it's a modern take that also doesn't seem to be taking itself seriously
Genuine question, why is the american/western media so obsessed with black representation? Most modern shows shoehorn Black folk in them (be them raceswapped or original characters) but what about other minorities?
It should be done better for them too and people ITT would whine about that as well. You really have to understand that studio executives don’t give a frick about actually representing people, they care about money. The talent wants diverse and representative content because they care, but studios keep saying no.
What is going on right now is that studios have realised that black people actually are a demographic that wants to spend money so they’re doing some milquetoast representation now when things like Get Out and Black Panther are making tons of money. Asian representation is slightly getting better because of Shang Chi and Crazy Rich Asians. And they should do better. But these structures are old and slow and the studio heads are even more averse to changing their ways. Which is why shit like Oscars making requirements about diversity a thing, to push the dinosaurs to actually do better instead of fighting back and denying projects.
If you pay any attention to actual industry people who talk in podcasts you would know that even today studio executives regularly just say stupid shit like “are we still doing diversity?” or keep insisting that you can’t do a movie like Awkwafina’s 2019 movie The Farewell, which has an entirely Asian cast, because nobody wants to see that shit, you need a white friend in there for it to be relatable! Even though it’s a fricking family story about a grandma dying.
These executives are the same type that in the 60s and 70s tell Bruce Lee he can’t be a leading man in Hollywood because he’s Asian and Asians don’t sell, only then run to kiss his feet when he becomes an international star by doing couple of Hong Kong movies and offer him a Hollywood paid martial arts movie deal. Or who says black people cannot sell movies and then run to do tons of cheap Blacksploitation movies once independent black talent do their own movies and prove its successful.
I suggest that most corporate black representation isn't actually aimed at the black community but is aimed at mostly white urbanite liberals who want to see more black people in media. I'd also suggest asian rep isn't getting better because of hollywood, but mostly because of anime and kpop bypassing their dumbfrick heads..
>It should be done better for them too and people ITT would whine about that as well.
Not so much when it's Asians because of the amount of weebs with yellow fever.
Yellow fever is a huge factor but the uncomfortable truth is that people in general find (east) asians more visually pleasing than blacks, hence why the outrage isn't as big whenever asians are also used to fill a diversity quota.
You clearly haven’t been in threads where people are literally going GO BACK TO FRICKING CHINA IF YOU WANT REPRESENTATION if you say that there is nothing wrong with people asking for representation in the country they live in and point out that Asians have for a long time been discriminated by Hollywood and stereotyped to death
some uber-rich banker-gay likes to larp as a sjw, so he gives better interest rates to companies that do diversity stunts. These companies don't really give a crap about that (except for maybe some of the lower-level management and HR-types), so they go with the most available minority there is: black people. Sometimes they'll go with another one just to spice things up a bit, but blacks are the easiest, so that's what they stick to.
Remember shows like That's So Raven where the idea was...to have ideas? Then you get shit like this where the entire production value screams "LOW EFFORT," yet if anyone were to speak against it would OBVIOUSLY be because we're all threatened by STRAWNG WOMYN.
>Makes a bitter cartoon special about race and gender swapping fictional characters to own the libs. >Indivertibly gives audience new Rule 34 material.
a bitter cartoon special about race and gender swapping fictional characters to own the libs.
Libs were praising them when South Park made fun of Trump and QAnon.
gives audience new Rule 34 material.
I don't see the contradiction
I read it as "inadvertently" but didn't understand why your post made it seem like it was related to the other part. I'm going to assume it wasn't your intention
Better late than never. In fact, it's better now than before, because had this come a few years ago, the average viewer would just dismiss it as being fringe and paranoid. They haven't had to deal with activists invading their space yet.
Now most people realize the full extent of the problem, and South Park is going to give them an opportunity to speak more freely about it. If there's still a watercooler show, it's South Park.
How does this shit make sense in any other show?
I mean, that's probably the point. But this is the wrong question to direct towards an irreverent comedy.
I think if the Scientology episode came out in the modern internet people would be calling that "old news" as well because alt.religion.scientology had been going against it since the 90's. But not that many people knew about Xenu and so on before South Park. Or it's not like yaoi was a new thing when Tweek x Craig came out, but it still seemed to be a surprise for many older audience.
Now so many people are "terminally online" that you really can't make anything new anymore unless it's about some niche thing happening only in state/city x the rest of the world isn't aware of (like those scoots that weren't such a massive thing back when that episode came out).
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I think if the Scientology episode came out in the modern internet people would be calling that "old news" as well because alt.religion.scientology had been going against it since the 90's. But not that many people knew about Xenu and so on before South Park. Or it's not like yaoi was a new thing when Tweek x Craig came out, but it still seemed to be a surprise for many older audience.
Now so many people are "terminally online" that you really can't make anything new anymore unless it's about some niche thing happening only in state/city x the rest of the world isn't aware of (like those scoots that weren't such a massive thing back when that episode came out).
Nailed right in the head. As soon as they lose some of the narrative they go into damage control mode OR they genuinely are terminally online and can't understand mainstream TV is not the same thing as the internet.
You can't really call Cinemaphile right wing when it has /lgbt/ and multiple trap threads going at any one time. Cinemaphile is a counter culture site if anything. Any mildly popular thing will be told it's shit here.
It is. This could've been powerful critique if it was just a few years ago. Now it just comes off as very safe because people are tired of identity politics. Doesn't change the fact the morons they're making fun of are melting down like they have that kind of power anymore, so I guess it was effective on them.
do you really think it's going to "tackle" the race and gender bending? it's making at most a light parody now that it is safe to do so. it isn't "going there". everyone who has seen race/genderbent bs has access to the internet or heard some kind of comment about it
I'll give you that it's not as out there, as a bunch of other shit South Park has done, but what's the next highest profile shit to take on this topic? Unless I've missed something, we're talking about like sam hyde or frogposting class of shit.
>but what's the next highest profile shit to take on this topic
That's the thing, there isn't. They're currently on the highest possible level and it's still old and useless at this point. The entire topic is overdone to hell and back. They have so many things to make episodes/specials about and they choose the most played-out BS that everyone and their mother has been talking about, analyzing, and parodying for years.
That seems like a paradox, that something could be played out, and yet still untouchable by mainstream media.
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It's not untouchable. It's just boring and played-out. I don't think some people understand that "The whole live action remakes with race swapping situation is lame and old" doesn't mean "I'm CANCELLING it and NOBODY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT IT".
Mainstream media already has talked about it so. Fricking. Much. It's not untouchable, it's already been molested from the inside-out by everyone who's ever crossed paths with it.
I think this is a case of legacy media finding itself increasingly irrelevant. Before the net was what it is today, these were the edgy mouthpieces that did go there at the time, culture moved more slowly then. Now memes come and go, video essayists say the same thing, tweets go viral and get forgotten. Some random anonymous guy on the internet can make me laugh harder than any comedy movie, stand up special or sitcom. South Park can make an episode a week but Matt and Trey are probably not tapped into the culture the way they once were. Zoomer stuff and tiktok is likewise incomprehensible to me. Mainstream TV knows its on its way out. The age of cinema is also sadly on its way out
You're the one who brought it up. >Is it really safe to do so? I don't see anyone else touching this shit. At least anyone with money on the line.
Yes it is safe to do so and talk about race swapping in movies in the mainstream. People with millions of dollars on the line have entire shitass podcasts about it and spend half their day tweeting about it and still have unfathomable hoardes of dickriders and public credibility.
It's not untouchable. It's just boring and played-out. I don't think some people understand that "The whole live action remakes with race swapping situation is lame and old" doesn't mean "I'm CANCELLING it and NOBODY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT IT".
Mainstream media already has talked about it so. Fricking. Much. It's not untouchable, it's already been molested from the inside-out by everyone who's ever crossed paths with it.
If the highest profile shit are political talk show hosts on the internet, that's fine, but I don't want to turn it into an invitation to polposting. I really have no fricking clue what political talking heads you were speaking of. I was expecting primarily a Cinemaphile example.
>Mainstream media already has talked about it so. Fricking. Much.
I'm not familiar with what you're talking about. I mean from the shit I see, I can't think of another corporate cartoon, or comic book that covers this, and this extends into indie comics.
Genuine question, why is the american/western media so obsessed with black representation? Most modern shows shoehorn Black folk in them (be them raceswapped or original characters) but what about other minorities?
There are people who believe that the problems in the black community are caused by racisim, and that much of this comes to self image issues, and poor role models, so more, better, role models in media will fix things like the crime rate, academic performance gap, and income gap.
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>, but I don't want to turn it into an invitation to polposting
Too fricking late. They're the only gays that care enough to respond beyond an eye roll. They're the only ones still hyped to beat this dead horse.
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Big media is a dinosaur, but it still matters anon because it's where the real money is.
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[...] >If you're terminally online this stuff is old news but there's not really any mainstream normie tier content that tackles this.
Are we really still acting like stuff like joe rogan and tucker carlson are super obscure pirate broadcasts on the deepweb and not normie as frick? They complain about woke shit all the time.
>If you're terminally online this stuff is old news but there's not really any mainstream normie tier content that tackles this.
Are we really still acting like stuff like joe rogan and tucker carlson are super obscure pirate broadcasts on the deepweb and not normie as frick? They complain about woke shit all the time.
At least half of normies think Joe Rogan and Tucker are Nazis, warranted or not. Hopefully South Park weighing in shows the tide is turning and even normies are sick of this shit.
>At least half of normies think Joe Rogan and Tucker are Nazis, warranted or not.
Irrelevant. They're still mainstream media whining about this shit. You have your representation. Acting like South Park is the lone voice in the dark trailblazing against injustice is schizoid behavior.
Bullshit. They probably get more viewers than south park does.
Or wait is this one of those times where you homosexuals redefine mainstream to mean "doesn't hate Black folk enough for my liking" or something?
Minstream is something people in their 50s cna watch on TV, i.e. big enough to be known to every generation.
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I've seen with my own eyes parents and people in their 50s watching fox news in the background of everything they do, and with youtube being a clickable "channel" on every modern tv, they also end up keeping their roku TV autoplaying Jordan Peterson videos, Joe Rogan podcasts, mix in a few random commentary videos about whatever media is popular. It's like where they get their info from. The only reason any person on earth doesn't know about these types of media now is if they're dead or too senile to know their own name.
>This is Cinemaphile. Not crackpots yelling about gay frogs.
Exactly. There are more crackpots than manchildren obsessed with screaming about how disney moveies are for little girls.
None of that makes sense though. If this was a fictional villain's plan in some piece of media everyone would point out how shit and convoluted the plan is.
And yet the likes of modern Disney is still forcing it down our throats currently, complete with vacuous girlboss garbage writing. Let them have Matt and Trey's wrath and mocked for all they deserve. It will never stop them from being absolutely righteous, every single time.
Honestly if this special is straightforward in making fun of diversity pandering to the point it makes them placated I'll be happy, I am tired of threads being full of them whingeing about how new episodes keep making fun of them.
No it's not? There's more of this shit everywhere the most recent fiasco is Velma and we keep seeing the insert of blacks in place of whites in almost everything now. If it was truly about representation mattering they would give us a lesbian Eskimo instead of just making characters black for the sake of inclusion points but companies don't care and go the easy route because blacks are easily swayed and any white liberal will eat it up
I don't care about having black characters in media or gay characters or whatever the frick I just hate the obvious pandering and virtue Signaling of representation mattering. I keep hearing visibility is important and we all know black people exist so if companies cared they'd give us other type of representation as well like a lesbian Eskimo
>lesbian Eskimo
there's no incentive for that. To paraphrase an old Dave Attell line, the Eskimos and Amish are the only two groups its always okay to make fun of. They're never going to find out about it.
So what you're saying is they're under represented in the media? Omg!! That's why they should be in more shows and movies because representation matters!!!
no, I'm saying they don't watch media and don't buy tickets or merch. Assuming Eskimos even allow for homosexuality in their culture there is no incentive to pander to gay eskimos. That's how you know all this representation talk is BS.
Also, obligatory:
7 months ago
Anonymous
I know it's stupid I was being silly and using their own logic
7 months ago
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but that isn't their logic, its just what they say. Money and clout are the real motivators here. If they cared about representation, something like a show about a gay Amish kid moving to the big city and discovering themselves on Rumspringa might have been made by now. But that will never make as much money or put as many butts in seats as Black Panther or earn the same woke points as Black Little Mermaid or Netflix Sandman's frankly excessive blackwashing.
7 months ago
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I know it's stupid I was being silly and using their own logic
It was BS back in the 90s. Intersectionality was a mistake.
7 months ago
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Intersectionality is just political triangulation in disguise.
I don't think that anon watches anime. If anything, they completely ignore or handwave a character being dark skinned most of the time. It's when they're American or European that they make a big deal out of it.
>It's about specifics
There is nothing at all specific about asian girls with dyed hair.
Throughout media, there are many girls of many races with dyed hair, and many, many, many more asian girls without dyed hair.
What exactly is the trend?
They did the joke once public opinion turned on these diversity hires and started hating them. If they did it during the height of the George Floyd cultural revolution they would have gotten cancelled for racism and misogyny. Now everyone is sick of this forced diversity ESG quota shit so it's ok to make fun of it.
Harvey Pasternak, he's still running wild and MKUltraing celebrities.
Remember the Britney Spears children of the corn episode? What do you think of that knowing what we know now? Some times these south park episodes are prophetic the same way the Simpsons is.
It'll never stop being funny to me when SP's fanbase of middle schoolers makes tumblr fanart out of things that 50 year old laugh factory guys think is good social commentary
Most red heads in fiction are small supporting roles so of course black actors are cast as them, that’s what Hollywood has always done, avoid giving leads and instead cast them in side roles. Where you see a conspiracy it’s in fact just corporate laziness and cowardice.
This extends outside of fictional media with blacks inserting themselves into history that isn't there's and claiming it as there's as well the most notable is the Cleopatra fiasco. It's all really weird
I don't mind raceswapping and genderbending of historical figures/characters as long as it's done for coom purposes. Seems like the Japanese know that stuff better.
It does make me a bit sad that the time we're most likely getting the only official genderbend designs is a raceswapping joke where they're not even e-girls. But Kenny is still cute and there's a possibility Tweek, Craig and Jimmy are not raceswapped because they're already minorities.
That's the point. And Stan is a Lily Singh knockoff- old af but still acting like a kid.
It's funny because a new show that got cancelled before it came out called Chad actually did this. It had a 45 year old woman playing a high school boy.
I am sick and tired of people online believing that Matt and Trey are on their side. Everyone that is celebrating this "EP1C own to the SJWs" were the same guys that broke their TVs when they made fun of Trump. They're two hypocrites that have no real stances on any issue; they just so happen to also be funny.
did all of them die?
Asian Kenny got Ryona'd
YOU BASTARDS!
I can't believe this show promotes violence against asian women!
lol
>OH MY GOD, THEY RAPED KENDALL!
>THOSE BASTARDS!
why? this is still happening, and there were even two major examples of this exact thing in this year alone
Like I said 2 threads ago if the Simpsons does an MCU parody we call that a zombie ass move. Even though the MCU is still ongoing.
Just because the party is still going doesn't mean you can't be late to it.
has anybody besides south park tackled parodying the racebending shit yet? I'd think most shows would be afraid to do that because they'd get accused of being racist or something. south park seems like one of the only shows that could parody that and not get called out for it.
Why does it have to be shows? Everything that can be said on the subject has been said via pundits, youtubers, and social media already.
Do you own South Park? Who are you to tell them what they should or should not talk about? Really controlling of you, anon.
And who are you to tell me I can't call south park a stale show run by spoiled burn outs that are just mad nobody gives a shit about their 3 years of weed jokes?
>And who are you to tell me I can't call south park a stale show run by spoiled burn outs that are just mad nobody gives a shit about their 3 years of weed jokes?
You can say whatever you want about the show, but complaing about what they can or cannot talk about is just moronic. Complain about the quality of the episode when it comes out instead of b***hing and moaning about the topic it talks about, you wienersucker.
>abloo bloo bloo why won't anyone let me beat my dead horse in peace
If they want the benefit of the doubt maybe they shouldn't rely on making the same jokes you gays have been making since 2011.
>Resorting to "abloo abloo abloo"
I accept your concession, go complain about what people should or shouldn't talk about on twitter like all the other thought police morons.
>even though the episode isn't out yet, I know literally everything about it
ok
bloo bloo
Why is it cringe leftoids that always say this.
Lurk at least 15 years before posting
>You can say whatever you want about the show, but complaing about what they can or cannot talk about is just moronic
Nobody was complaining about what they talk about, the complaint was about when they said it. They are pointing out something that everyone with a brain cell already noticed years ago
That argument doesn't work when you are trying to shut down criticism. Freedom of speech is a two-way street
thats not what freedom of speech means in the first place. what's life like in central america?
PUT THE GOALPOST DOWN, NOW!
Always Sunny did it ages ago back when it still had a soul
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If you are accurately representing current events is not satire
you don't even know what it's going to be about yet.
It’s about AI
>why? this is still happening
They only started making fun of it when it was safe to do so. The time for this was like seven years ago.
It's still appreciated
gross
i would kill them for touching kyle like that
>/ss/Black person
What
bless
They should drug him moronic and kidnap him and turn him into there sex toy.
>mfw
Any more?
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No, this is the perfect answer to Disney live action. Can't wait until all Youtube neckbeards show true colors and get mad once this episode is like "Race and gender don't matter."
trust me when i say most creative would rather create original IPs with diverse MCs then have to rehash an existing one and race swap a character. it's usually studios execs that's demand this stuff because they want the brownie points without actually investing in an original ip
i dont think its been confirmed, but a lot of people think that the Velma show was supposed to be something original and warner bros made them attach it to scooby doo in order to greenlight it. it would explain why scooby wasn't in it, because they probably didn't have a large talking dog in the original pitch
While that's 100% true that doesn't actually solve the problem most anons have which is seeing non whites at all. When a studio takes a chance on some original thing they'll just keep on complaining. Like with every disney tv cartoon made in the last decade.
I know but with almost everything people don't direct there anger at the ones that deserve it the most
Funny how you can say shit like this while basically every muslim and minority group in the west is trying to defend Hamas.
Maybe we just don't like hateful spiteful groups of lesser men?
>you can't complain if other people in the world have it worse
shouldn't you be on twitter right now
>While that's 100% true that doesn't actually solve the problem most anons have which is seeing non whites at all
You gays always bleat about this nonsense and act like it isn't a (warrented) immune response to a landslide of poorly executed and shoehorned nonsense over the last couple years.
Gamers didn't rise up when Coach and Rochelle took over half the L4D cast because both of them are solid original characters, and the general mainstream media hadn't squandered all of its good will at the time. If a black character is introduced now and receives a shit response, it's because they are the latest in a 50 mile line of shittily executed only-exists-to-be-black characters, not because everyone outside of your echo chamber is racist.
>If a black character is introduced now and receives a shit response, it's because they are the latest in a 50 mile line of shittily executed only-exists-to-be-black characters,
The fact that you're assuming they're going to be that from the start is a self fufilling prophecy.
Nobody is going to give companies the benefit of the doubt after all the garbage they have produced. Good word of mouth works better than advertisement now, look at Guardians of the Galaxy 3
GOTG 3 flopped
>Pattern recognition bad
That's your corporate master's problem from using up all their goodwill with the public.
Most "racists" tend to ignore original content that caters to minority demographics. There have been at least 2 cartoons within the last 3 years that were all about gays and trannies and everyone ignored them because both shows were clearly labeled as such from the get go. People only get mad when existing IPs they invested time in go woke.
>Like with every disney tv cartoon made in the last decade.
Holy fricking shit will you FRICKING LISTEN TO YOURSELF.
"Every Disney cartoon made in the last decade", it's as though you almost recognize the common denominator.
How many more decades are going to pass that you keep blaming the audience? This shit is stale, stop forcing this shit into every damn IP. The only reason people aren't publicly telling you that it sucks is because you keep threatening the well-being of anyone that tells you it's garbage.
You think Amphibia would benefit from having Anne be white instead of mocha?
That stuff doesn't matter unless you're terminally online, dude
>You think Amphibia would benefit from having Anne be white instead of mocha?
Unironically yes. White people actually have culture you know.
Characters created with the intent of being diverse are always generic stereotypes. The racist strawman doesn't work when black anime characters are popular
>The racist strawman doesn't work when black anime characters are popular
it doesn't work on black anime characters because weebs will bend over backwards to come up with reasons why said characters aren't actually black.
You see it happen a lot with yoruichi and all those cloud village homies in naruto.
Yoruichi is literally royalty from 100 years ago, there's a bigger change if her being okinawan than black. For some reason americans believe that only black people have dark skin.
Letting that aside there's black characters who are literally american and people likes them too
japanese royalty* just to be clear. You are saying that the japanese royalty has black people in it
No, but I may have dropped Bleach before they dropped that factoid.
It's explained in the second arc when Soi Fong appears and again in the flashback arc. Maybe you are also uneducated in your other assumptions
Braindead post.
Black anime characters ARE generic stereotypes. They may be well-writen in other ways, but they are made by people who have likely have never seen a real black person in their lives and view them and the most widespread parts of their culture (i.e. stereotypes) as something exotic, so this is emphasized in the work they make. A charactr in anime will never casually be black, this is always going to be a big deal and their character is likely going to be loud and bombastic because of that.
>A charactr in anime will never casually be black, this is always going to be a big deal and their character is likely going to be loud and bombastic because of that.
Look at me casually proving you wrong
I am confident they have traits that are stereotypically associated with black people. Being tough, athletic, stubborn, etc.
>tough, athletic,
They are part of an action manga, all the important characters are like that.
>stubborn
Not really
Why do lefties always turn into the worst racists? Here's a black character that doesn't apply to any of those. He's neither though nor athletic, his stands are always physically weaker, and he changes plans on the fly in every confrontation
The Democrats created the KKK and invited them to host Klanbakes at their national convention. Don't be surprised when these same people reveal themselves to be insane racists who promote the soft bigotry of low expectations.
This is why I'm a proud republican
>mutt thinks we care about his politics
Who is we? Are they in the room with you right now? Are they in the walls?
Pucci is a dark skinned Italian.
His brother was specifically killed by the KKK for having a black dad, the italian linage comes from his mother
>His brother was specifically killed by the KKK for having a black dad
Actually no; he was adopted by another mom and that mom was in a relationship with the black guy. The PI used this thought process to assume Weather was half black and lynched him.
I stand corrected
>A charactr in anime will never casually be black, this is always going to be a big deal and their character is likely going to be loud and bombastic because of that.
not anime, don't know why you replied to that specific post with this picture
it's so fricking hilarious still, i read the narration in bullhorn's voice every time
I only hate it when they try and shoehorn in diversity into shit like medieval inspired settings and other cultural appropriation of western shit. I don't give a shit about Encantanto or whatever. I don't give a shit about diversity. But seeing black knights and vikings will always be fricking cringe as hell.
The idea that people have a problem with brown people which maybe is true for a lot of these anons but they don't get mad over that content. At the end of the day they don't care if you have your shit they just don't want what's "theirs" taken away from them.
Bullshit.
You know that not even gay people or libtards or whatever like these Disney remakes either.
Anon, I'm old enough to remember everyone going ga-ga for Maleficent. It's what kick-started the live-action reboots.
Well yeah same, but it was a movie about Maleficent. Its not like it was a live action remake of Sleeping Beauty. They made a live action spin off about the villain. For anyone reading this unaware, basically the same thing they did with Cruella DeVille years later. Which is I guess annoying for any hardcore sleeping beauty superfans out there, but it was different enough that it was fine and a bunch of people could manage. I watched it with my mom and sister when it came out and it was nice enough.
But even my family who tends to let the cheesiest of bullshit movies slide watched the Alladin remake or something, I forgot what it was but it was one of those overhaul remakes of an entire film and its preexisting plot, and they hated it (as did I).
NOBODY likes the flat-out remakes.
Just got a flashback to that clip of Cruella's tragic backstory being something like wild dalmatians pushed her mother off a cliff.
The villain's pet dalmations are called by dog whistle from off screen, run across an estate field, jump over cruella, to literally push her mother off a cliff, not they maul her and while fleeing she falls, the dog PUSHES her with his paws.
Has anyone pointed out it's literally Gogo
>Has anyone pointed out it's literally Gogo
Yes, multiple people
godlike ass
She’s so irredeemable they had to make it the Dalmatians’ fault she hates them so much. Feminism is a hell of a drug.
women are legitimately moronic
You COULD do a compelling movie with Cruella as the sympathetic protagonist, but DISNEY cannot do that kind of movie because it wouldn't fit with their shallow ass grrl power brand.
Set the movie in the post-war 50s, show Cruella as a bullied child stuffed into a soul crushing posh bording school where she is punished with the cane for being disruptive and implied slightly insane. Repeatedly show the audience time and again how so little animal welfare was considered in 1950s England, and this is the culture that is drilled into her - animals have no souls, animals can't feel pain, animals exist to serve man.
Follow her growing up as a rebellious feminist fasion icon, a darling of 60s women lib being a cut throat boss in a world where men still are the leaders of buisness.
Show that Cruella, due to her upbringing, just cannot UNDERSTAND why the hypocritical public think killing cows for leather or foxes for fur is any different from culling dogs for their coats. And then show how time marches on forward without her as due to her old values she has become a relic of the past just like the old fur coats and turn of the century feather hats that once inspired her.
>Has anyone pointed out it's literally Gogo
That's what makes it better
the token asian with a hair streak is a trope of its own
Why haven't people pointed out how racist this is?
Is it really racist for people with a single hair color to play around with that at times?
Because it isn't racist at all. Characters of all races dye their hair, especially women.
The only reason Knives even dyed her hair was because she was copying Ramona, a white girl that dies her hair a different color every week..
Because it's not. It's an appealing aesthetic like black people with afros.
Because frick you it's hot
The Dalmatian remake is weird because Disney already made a serviceable live action remake with Glenn Close.
Same with the 90s Jungle Book movie. Although I suppose since that one is completely different from the animated movie you could justify a 2nd LA movie. It's a great 90s era action-adventure movie that no one remembers. Check it out if you haven't.
It’s all coming back to me
>Boone: What do you have that I don't?
>Mowgli: Strength of a bear!
>Speed of a panther!
>Heart of a wolf!
>...and very sharp teeth.
It was kino. Even all the villain's henchmen had memorable deaths.
>making homie mermaids is the perfect way to own Youtubers
The frick is wrong with you.
They're too hot for the joke they want to make.
Quads of truth. If they really want to be accurate, they would be trannies with rainbow hair
>Cartman a fat black woman
That’s pretty funny and fitting.
It was probably a safe bet to do it now that it's still relevant you don't get canceled so easily
They WANT to get cancelled. The south park guys have wanted to quit for a while which is why you only get like 6 episodes a year now.
>They WANT to get cancelled. The south park guys have wanted to quit for a while which is why you only get like 6 episodes a year now.
couldn't they just not renew their contracts the next time it comes up?
honestly I'm just waiting for the porn and fetish art this special will generate
Maybe they also want to make sure that it doesn’t continue without them.
Tweek is so damn lucky
Tweek talking about Craig like:
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I hope that new Snow Day game is gonna have a story. And that in said story we're gonna get Tweek being Craig's lovesick girly wife in need of protecting again
What we really need iss Craig being a massive homosexual being so whipped for wiener that Tweek can get him to bend over backwards for him.
Tweek canonically has a baby dick. He won't satisfy anyone.
he's 10 years old
Tweek has the smallest penis of any boy at 1.45 inches. He might have stunted growth from exposure to the drugs his parents put in his coffee.
Strike that, he's the second smallest after Cartman.
>why doesn't a fourth grader have a seven incher?
>wanting a shitty wannabe heterosexual dynamic that completely erases Tweek's violent spastic schizo personality in favour of making him act like a limp-wristed homosexual
Absolutely abhorrent taste
YOU GET IT. I need schizo, unshowered, /x/ addict Tweek fricking Craig and using him as more of a sheild from his gangstalkers than as a crutch.
Fym canonically. The measurements of the kids' penises that cartman took? Of all the elementary schoolers? No shit.
CANONICALLY Craig uses tumblr
CANONICALLY Craig lead and formed and got matching outfits for his friends in the metrosexual phase and pranced around on a gay pride parade float spinning around.
Craig was the one shot with cupid me's arrow.
They're both gay and that's that, but if we're gonna get all technical here, Craig is the actual homosexual.
Why do zoomers defend lazy raceswaps? Is it because they're dumb kids who grew up with this and defend it as anything but lazy cashgrab representation?
Turning a character black does not combat representation. It takes away whereas creating a new character takes away from no one.
Zoomers don't have mental autonomy, silly. If Zoomers defends something it's because they were programmed to defend it. Do you think Zoomers even know what racism is? Do you think they've ever so much as encountered a homeless person?
I'm just saying that zoomers for whatever reason, seem to think these things are unironically good instead of being the epitome of cynical lazy cash grabs, and the raceswaps done in earnest to 'add representation' fall short because raceswaps only really exist as what I mentioned above.
The only time this isn't the case is when there isn't some rule about "representation" and you could turn a character white. That's the only time it's honest.
>It takes away whereas creating a new character takes away from no one.
You're saying this on a site that thinks that this commercial was promoting white genocide
Ugly ass mutt kid... and /misc/ is not the entire site anon.
>Ugly ass mutt kid
Yep. You'd capture more hearts if you aesthetically pleasing people. The two actors are fine. Just swap that fat ass kid out.
>Ugly ass mutt kid... and /misc/ is not the entire site anon.
I was talking about Cinemaphile.
/misc/ leaks here at times.
but by that logic it is the entire site.
Perhaps but it's not the true userbase. Just the /misc/homosexuals.
/misc/ does leak to the entire site, yes.
the 2016 and 2020 american elections massively decreased the quality of the website by bringing in tourists, even more stormgays, and literal actual boomers who's hobbies include talking about houseplants and sharing recipes. these morons think the entire website is some kind of le redpilled political echochamber for them to jerk off to their own political moronation and their favorite grifters.
>the 2016 and 2020 american elections
dude that commercials are white genocide thing is from 2013.
He's only been here since 2021
i never said /misc/tards didn't exist before 2016. they just weren't nearly as bad, and they were occasionally even amusing. boomers are never amusing.
i've been here since 2012, moron
>Why do zoomers defend lazy raceswaps?
Because defending the political party that controls corporations gives you the ability to harass others with impunity
Generational guilt. They feel bad because grand pappy was a racist and despite not being alive at the time they are told it's their fault.
They don't feel guilty because of dead grandpappy, they feel guilty because of their facebook aunts, maga uncles, and younger siblings that frequent Cinemaphile.
Some people just don't give a shit, and were raised in an environment that encouraged tolerance and understanding. I remember being 11 and arguing online that there's nothing inherently wrong with Miles Morales back when his first comic came out in 2011 because the mainline Peter is still alive. Though this was a different time and I got soured on Miles since then, but this is probably how a lot of kids unironically perceive these things, they'e too young to have real stances on this. As a teen I could agree with people saying that making Johnny Storm black is unnecessary but I also was generally fine with it because it seemed like something new and different and I was open to it. Though nowadays it's so widespread I imagine it's harder to view it this way.
>you know I was less racist back in the day before I got brainwashed
Have you seen the new robin hood show?
What is that and why should I care. That looks like shit and I don't even have to think about watching it because it's already left my mind as a concept.
Its Canadian and Robyn lives in an actual Hood called Sherwood
Please for the love of god tell me that Friar Tuck is a fry cook.
>robyn
>Robyn lives in an actual Hood called Sherwood
Wow, that is like /misc/ parody tier
>Robbin da Hood
Pfffftt
What the frick are those masks?
What are those outfits?
homie you could replace her with the whitest white guy ever and it would still look like shit
What was the budget for this?
>What was the budget for this?
canadian grant for the arts
"Attack The Block" already did this aesthetic better
sorry, this looks kinda cool. Like the Shakespeare in modern day" movies
Sorry to inform you, it was not.
>hood
okay, that's pretty good, though. Not at all a raceswap, in this case, since it's a modern take that also doesn't seem to be taking itself seriously
Huh, so that's where the Mighty Moshin Emo Rangers went.
This looks bad but I don't see the problem if it's in a modern setting
Genuine question, why is the american/western media so obsessed with black representation? Most modern shows shoehorn Black folk in them (be them raceswapped or original characters) but what about other minorities?
Idk ask Disney or the main 3 corporations who controll all the media. You act like we get a choice.
>but what about other minorities?
It should be done better for them too and people ITT would whine about that as well. You really have to understand that studio executives don’t give a frick about actually representing people, they care about money. The talent wants diverse and representative content because they care, but studios keep saying no.
What is going on right now is that studios have realised that black people actually are a demographic that wants to spend money so they’re doing some milquetoast representation now when things like Get Out and Black Panther are making tons of money. Asian representation is slightly getting better because of Shang Chi and Crazy Rich Asians. And they should do better. But these structures are old and slow and the studio heads are even more averse to changing their ways. Which is why shit like Oscars making requirements about diversity a thing, to push the dinosaurs to actually do better instead of fighting back and denying projects.
If you pay any attention to actual industry people who talk in podcasts you would know that even today studio executives regularly just say stupid shit like “are we still doing diversity?” or keep insisting that you can’t do a movie like Awkwafina’s 2019 movie The Farewell, which has an entirely Asian cast, because nobody wants to see that shit, you need a white friend in there for it to be relatable! Even though it’s a fricking family story about a grandma dying.
These executives are the same type that in the 60s and 70s tell Bruce Lee he can’t be a leading man in Hollywood because he’s Asian and Asians don’t sell, only then run to kiss his feet when he becomes an international star by doing couple of Hong Kong movies and offer him a Hollywood paid martial arts movie deal. Or who says black people cannot sell movies and then run to do tons of cheap Blacksploitation movies once independent black talent do their own movies and prove its successful.
I suggest that most corporate black representation isn't actually aimed at the black community but is aimed at mostly white urbanite liberals who want to see more black people in media. I'd also suggest asian rep isn't getting better because of hollywood, but mostly because of anime and kpop bypassing their dumbfrick heads..
>It should be done better for them too and people ITT would whine about that as well.
Not so much when it's Asians because of the amount of weebs with yellow fever.
Yellow fever is a huge factor but the uncomfortable truth is that people in general find (east) asians more visually pleasing than blacks, hence why the outrage isn't as big whenever asians are also used to fill a diversity quota.
We're saying the same thing you're just being more undeservedly charitable about it.
You clearly haven’t been in threads where people are literally going GO BACK TO FRICKING CHINA IF YOU WANT REPRESENTATION if you say that there is nothing wrong with people asking for representation in the country they live in and point out that Asians have for a long time been discriminated by Hollywood and stereotyped to death
I thought you people were good at math. I said not as much not none.
some uber-rich banker-gay likes to larp as a sjw, so he gives better interest rates to companies that do diversity stunts. These companies don't really give a crap about that (except for maybe some of the lower-level management and HR-types), so they go with the most available minority there is: black people. Sometimes they'll go with another one just to spice things up a bit, but blacks are the easiest, so that's what they stick to.
>ROBYYYN IN DA HOOOOOD
Remember shows like That's So Raven where the idea was...to have ideas? Then you get shit like this where the entire production value screams "LOW EFFORT," yet if anyone were to speak against it would OBVIOUSLY be because we're all threatened by STRAWNG WOMYN.
>Remember shows like That's So Raven where the idea was...to have ideas?
lol nope
finally a historically accurate robin hood without the whitewashing and patriarchy
Robin Hood isn’t real
He was real but he was a rich noble, not a forest hippy
Ughhh
>title is a direct reference to Spider-Verse
kek is the pendulum swinging back
>Kenny
OH NO
MY DICK
Hear me out about Kenny
>Makes a bitter cartoon special about race and gender swapping fictional characters to own the libs.
>Indivertibly gives audience new Rule 34 material.
...Huh?
a bitter cartoon special about race and gender swapping fictional characters to own the libs.
Libs were praising them when South Park made fun of Trump and QAnon.
gives audience new Rule 34 material.
I don't see the contradiction
Yeah, I meant to say "inadvertently" but spell check tripped me up. 😛
I read it as "inadvertently" but didn't understand why your post made it seem like it was related to the other part. I'm going to assume it wasn't your intention
Better late than never. In fact, it's better now than before, because had this come a few years ago, the average viewer would just dismiss it as being fringe and paranoid. They haven't had to deal with activists invading their space yet.
Now most people realize the full extent of the problem, and South Park is going to give them an opportunity to speak more freely about it. If there's still a watercooler show, it's South Park.
Holy shit this! People are finally waking up and taking back the narrative.
How does any of this shit makes sense in the context of the show? Is this fourth wall breaking for the sake of it?
How does this shit make sense in any other show?
I mean, that's probably the point. But this is the wrong question to direct towards an irreverent comedy.
Such a fresh original take
>Kenny
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I hope PC Principal is central to the plot and becomes conflicted again like in Board Girls. Love that episode.
I think if the Scientology episode came out in the modern internet people would be calling that "old news" as well because alt.religion.scientology had been going against it since the 90's. But not that many people knew about Xenu and so on before South Park. Or it's not like yaoi was a new thing when Tweek x Craig came out, but it still seemed to be a surprise for many older audience.
Now so many people are "terminally online" that you really can't make anything new anymore unless it's about some niche thing happening only in state/city x the rest of the world isn't aware of (like those scoots that weren't such a massive thing back when that episode came out).
I wanna frick Kendall.
>inb4 she's a lesbian
Every woman's a lesbian until they take dick
Nailed right in the head. As soon as they lose some of the narrative they go into damage control mode OR they genuinely are terminally online and can't understand mainstream TV is not the same thing as the internet.
People need to realize Cinemaphile was always a right winger site.
You can't really call Cinemaphile right wing when it has /lgbt/ and multiple trap threads going at any one time. Cinemaphile is a counter culture site if anything. Any mildly popular thing will be told it's shit here.
It is. This could've been powerful critique if it was just a few years ago. Now it just comes off as very safe because people are tired of identity politics. Doesn't change the fact the morons they're making fun of are melting down like they have that kind of power anymore, so I guess it was effective on them.
If even south park is bringing attention to forced diversity then that means this woke age is really about to end.
Or at least that's what i hope.
This! We'll have white people in the media again.
>Or at least that's what i hope.
Honestly it won't, at least not in the way people think
Is cartman trans? I can see her crotch.
That or she has a puffy vegana.
Damn AI Princess Kenny getting me all hard an she-it.
gaygets still complain about it
I don't know what this is. Is this a new SP season?
*special
probably around 45min or so
Seems like you're seething mad and the leftoids just keep winning
not with the current anti-semitic sentiment because of (current event) :^)
you will be chuddified and you will be racist
Porn is needed now
https://twitter.com/bald_gagits/status/1712517617070780898
Rule 34 drawing powers, ACTIVATE!
waiting for blackwhiplash to draw them
Are we being /comfy/?
do you really think it's going to "tackle" the race and gender bending? it's making at most a light parody now that it is safe to do so. it isn't "going there". everyone who has seen race/genderbent bs has access to the internet or heard some kind of comment about it
Is it really safe to do so? I don't see anyone else touching this shit. At least anyone with money on the line.
south park is safe edgy. PC principal is literally just "wow pc gone too far" but a few years late, it's not groundbreaking stuff
I'll give you that it's not as out there, as a bunch of other shit South Park has done, but what's the next highest profile shit to take on this topic? Unless I've missed something, we're talking about like sam hyde or frogposting class of shit.
>but what's the next highest profile shit to take on this topic
That's the thing, there isn't. They're currently on the highest possible level and it's still old and useless at this point. The entire topic is overdone to hell and back. They have so many things to make episodes/specials about and they choose the most played-out BS that everyone and their mother has been talking about, analyzing, and parodying for years.
That seems like a paradox, that something could be played out, and yet still untouchable by mainstream media.
It's not untouchable. It's just boring and played-out. I don't think some people understand that "The whole live action remakes with race swapping situation is lame and old" doesn't mean "I'm CANCELLING it and NOBODY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT IT".
Mainstream media already has talked about it so. Fricking. Much. It's not untouchable, it's already been molested from the inside-out by everyone who's ever crossed paths with it.
I think this is a case of legacy media finding itself increasingly irrelevant. Before the net was what it is today, these were the edgy mouthpieces that did go there at the time, culture moved more slowly then. Now memes come and go, video essayists say the same thing, tweets go viral and get forgotten. Some random anonymous guy on the internet can make me laugh harder than any comedy movie, stand up special or sitcom. South Park can make an episode a week but Matt and Trey are probably not tapped into the culture the way they once were. Zoomer stuff and tiktok is likewise incomprehensible to me. Mainstream TV knows its on its way out. The age of cinema is also sadly on its way out
Look at literally every politician ever.
This isn't fricking pol, and I have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Politicians in my area aren't doing this shit.
You're the one who brought it up.
>Is it really safe to do so? I don't see anyone else touching this shit. At least anyone with money on the line.
Yes it is safe to do so and talk about race swapping in movies in the mainstream. People with millions of dollars on the line have entire shitass podcasts about it and spend half their day tweeting about it and still have unfathomable hoardes of dickriders and public credibility.
If the highest profile shit are political talk show hosts on the internet, that's fine, but I don't want to turn it into an invitation to polposting. I really have no fricking clue what political talking heads you were speaking of. I was expecting primarily a Cinemaphile example.
>Mainstream media already has talked about it so. Fricking. Much.
I'm not familiar with what you're talking about. I mean from the shit I see, I can't think of another corporate cartoon, or comic book that covers this, and this extends into indie comics.
There are people who believe that the problems in the black community are caused by racisim, and that much of this comes to self image issues, and poor role models, so more, better, role models in media will fix things like the crime rate, academic performance gap, and income gap.
>, but I don't want to turn it into an invitation to polposting
Too fricking late. They're the only gays that care enough to respond beyond an eye roll. They're the only ones still hyped to beat this dead horse.
Big media is a dinosaur, but it still matters anon because it's where the real money is.
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>If you're terminally online this stuff is old news but there's not really any mainstream normie tier content that tackles this.
Are we really still acting like stuff like joe rogan and tucker carlson are super obscure pirate broadcasts on the deepweb and not normie as frick? They complain about woke shit all the time.
At least half of normies think Joe Rogan and Tucker are Nazis, warranted or not. Hopefully South Park weighing in shows the tide is turning and even normies are sick of this shit.
>At least half of normies think Joe Rogan and Tucker are Nazis, warranted or not.
Irrelevant. They're still mainstream media whining about this shit. You have your representation. Acting like South Park is the lone voice in the dark trailblazing against injustice is schizoid behavior.
They're not conventional mainstream media
Bullshit. They probably get more viewers than south park does.
Or wait is this one of those times where you homosexuals redefine mainstream to mean "doesn't hate Black folk enough for my liking" or something?
Minstream is something people in their 50s cna watch on TV, i.e. big enough to be known to every generation.
I've seen with my own eyes parents and people in their 50s watching fox news in the background of everything they do, and with youtube being a clickable "channel" on every modern tv, they also end up keeping their roku TV autoplaying Jordan Peterson videos, Joe Rogan podcasts, mix in a few random commentary videos about whatever media is popular. It's like where they get their info from. The only reason any person on earth doesn't know about these types of media now is if they're dead or too senile to know their own name.
Riddiculous standard of representation anon. This is Cinemaphile. Not crackpots yelling about gay frogs.
You have my condolences puto.
Not South American but thank brah
>This is Cinemaphile. Not crackpots yelling about gay frogs.
Exactly. There are more crackpots than manchildren obsessed with screaming about how disney moveies are for little girls.
Tegridy was also dated by at least a decade when it happened
Matt and Trey are just boomers growing more and more out of touch with trends at this point
I have absolutely no idea who they are. And maybe it's for the best.
It's Stan, Kyle, Cartman and Kenny.
None of that makes sense though. If this was a fictional villain's plan in some piece of media everyone would point out how shit and convoluted the plan is.
Not only does Kanye need to take his meds, you do too.
Kenny > Cartman > Butter > Stan > Kyle
And yet the likes of modern Disney is still forcing it down our throats currently, complete with vacuous girlboss garbage writing. Let them have Matt and Trey's wrath and mocked for all they deserve. It will never stop them from being absolutely righteous, every single time.
>absolutely righteous
I think you meant to say "self righteous", something being righteous is a good thing.
>TFW when you were from a colonized country and never have to deal with this guilt shit
I still live in a shithole and every day is hell
Watch rightoids pretend to like SP again for a few weeks until their sacred cow gets slaughtered
Honestly if this special is straightforward in making fun of diversity pandering to the point it makes them placated I'll be happy, I am tired of threads being full of them whingeing about how new episodes keep making fun of them.
This would've been edgy 7 years ago
sadly, it's still edgy for reasons that seem to have more to do with current American culture than South Park itself.
THIS! Frick woke shit, frick ESG money. People are waking up to this and tearing it to shreds.
No it's not? There's more of this shit everywhere the most recent fiasco is Velma and we keep seeing the insert of blacks in place of whites in almost everything now. If it was truly about representation mattering they would give us a lesbian Eskimo instead of just making characters black for the sake of inclusion points but companies don't care and go the easy route because blacks are easily swayed and any white liberal will eat it up
Why haven't we created whites only media yet?
I don't care about having black characters in media or gay characters or whatever the frick I just hate the obvious pandering and virtue Signaling of representation mattering. I keep hearing visibility is important and we all know black people exist so if companies cared they'd give us other type of representation as well like a lesbian Eskimo
>lesbian Eskimo
there's no incentive for that. To paraphrase an old Dave Attell line, the Eskimos and Amish are the only two groups its always okay to make fun of. They're never going to find out about it.
So what you're saying is they're under represented in the media? Omg!! That's why they should be in more shows and movies because representation matters!!!
no, I'm saying they don't watch media and don't buy tickets or merch. Assuming Eskimos even allow for homosexuality in their culture there is no incentive to pander to gay eskimos. That's how you know all this representation talk is BS.
Also, obligatory:
I know it's stupid I was being silly and using their own logic
but that isn't their logic, its just what they say. Money and clout are the real motivators here. If they cared about representation, something like a show about a gay Amish kid moving to the big city and discovering themselves on Rumspringa might have been made by now. But that will never make as much money or put as many butts in seats as Black Panther or earn the same woke points as Black Little Mermaid or Netflix Sandman's frankly excessive blackwashing.
It was BS back in the 90s. Intersectionality was a mistake.
Intersectionality is just political triangulation in disguise.
Velma is a pajeet, she's the self insert of the showrunner
Reminder that this shit started with garbage like Kim Possible. It foretold all of this.
what are you talking about
>Well, looks like thangs are gettin' all PC again.
>Well how long d'you think this will last?
>Lasted about six years last time. We got at least 5.9 years to go.
episode was 8 years ago. It is time.
That clip of them trying to save the britches was so sad;_;
I honestly doubt trash content with dark protagonists would make Amphibia
ALso how is a Disney cartoon niche?
Ignore that part, I wasn't going to post it but my phone cache keep it
Alright sorry bout that.
I don't think that anon watches anime. If anything, they completely ignore or handwave a character being dark skinned most of the time. It's when they're American or European that they make a big deal out of it.
See
When did this board becomes infested with lefties.
>It's about specifics
There is nothing at all specific about asian girls with dyed hair.
Throughout media, there are many girls of many races with dyed hair, and many, many, many more asian girls without dyed hair.
What exactly is the trend?
So what is the joke? They support it or are against it? I not watched this show since a while because the jokes became unfunny and bland.
They did the joke once public opinion turned on these diversity hires and started hating them. If they did it during the height of the George Floyd cultural revolution they would have gotten cancelled for racism and misogyny. Now everyone is sick of this forced diversity ESG quota shit so it's ok to make fun of it.
Harvey Pasternak, he's still running wild and MKUltraing celebrities.
Remember the Britney Spears children of the corn episode? What do you think of that knowing what we know now? Some times these south park episodes are prophetic the same way the Simpsons is.
>I think the ESG fund was recently ended
Not even close lol
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2023/07/03/esg-is-on-its-way-out-now-that-investors-have-been-forced-to-wise-up/amp/
You're right, it sounds like they're just going to rebrand and call it something else.
hnng
It'll never stop being funny to me when SP's fanbase of middle schoolers makes tumblr fanart out of things that 50 year old laugh factory guys think is good social commentary
Imagine if there was a similar fanbase for Jeff Dunham or something and they shipped all the puppets
I mean it's the same way the other way around but for 50yo laugh factory guys making cartoons into le epic stoners
Most red heads in fiction are small supporting roles so of course black actors are cast as them, that’s what Hollywood has always done, avoid giving leads and instead cast them in side roles. Where you see a conspiracy it’s in fact just corporate laziness and cowardice.
This extends outside of fictional media with blacks inserting themselves into history that isn't there's and claiming it as there's as well the most notable is the Cleopatra fiasco. It's all really weird
It's not blacks doing that but certain group of other people
Blacks are enabling it with their we wuz kangz shit
I don't mind raceswapping and genderbending of historical figures/characters as long as it's done for coom purposes. Seems like the Japanese know that stuff better.
It does make me a bit sad that the time we're most likely getting the only official genderbend designs is a raceswapping joke where they're not even e-girls. But Kenny is still cute and there's a possibility Tweek, Craig and Jimmy are not raceswapped because they're already minorities.
>Asian Kenny is literally every female Asian cartoon character
is this some layered meta joke
I think it's pretty obvious it is, anon.
shes lookin fine
That's the point. And Stan is a Lily Singh knockoff- old af but still acting like a kid.
It's funny because a new show that got cancelled before it came out called Chad actually did this. It had a 45 year old woman playing a high school boy.
>Mfw expecting an influx of /ss/ art with the gender/age flipped crew with OG Keyle.
>Just a bunch of people b***hing about bullshit.
I am sick and tired of people online believing that Matt and Trey are on their side. Everyone that is celebrating this "EP1C own to the SJWs" were the same guys that broke their TVs when they made fun of Trump. They're two hypocrites that have no real stances on any issue; they just so happen to also be funny.
Idk, I don’t like Trump and I thought Board Girls was one of the best episodes in recent years. Looking forward to this one.