he let himself get typecast as the period film twink sidekick archer/squire character who always cares more about getting pussy or staying alive than winning the battle.
Good until the Hector duel then it becomes homosexual garbage. The director's cut had big fake German tiddies and semi nude Rose Burne and a cool intro for Achilles but otherwise sucked. Frick whoever changed the score over the duel.
It can be a good movie even if it is different to the original source. Maybe the director wanted to make it more real and not having gods and supernatural things.
Gladiator is another example of that. It's not a real story, it's just based in a historial period but is a good movie (at least for me).
kino, worst part is Pitt's Brit accent fading in and out. Brad Pitt said he didn't like this movie because he was front and center too much, it wasn't subtle enough lmao
I tried to watch it, but I turned it off after 10 minutes because the American accent was unbearable. Usually I don't have this problem, but in this case I just couldn't take it. Maybe I should watch it with Greek dubbing (if such even exist).
I can do with shortening the war so that it looks that it doesn't look like it lasts a decade.
I can do with removing the gods and their shenanigans and interventions from the story save for Thetis, although it pisses me off.
I can do with turning Agamemnon into a saturday morning cartoon power-hungry villain, he wasn't a saint in the Iliad.
What I can't do with is shiting on Menelaus by turning him into a wife beater so that Helen follows Paris on her own volition.
What I can't do with is trying to make us root for that fricking coward c**t b***h-boy Paris who basically doomed his city just because he thought with his dick instead of his brain and wanted the sweetest poontang on Earth thanks to Aphrodite's schemes.
What I can't do with is having Hector kill Menelaus to protect his brother when he would most likely have left Paris die at the hands of the king of Sparta just so his death could at least try to bring back a bit of Troy's honor.
Still a great film, especially in the uncensored/director's cut, although some music changes are jarring, and some characterizations are polarizing as frick.
>when the shield walls hit each other
imagine the kinetic shock, i wonder how many fractures or full on arm breaks happened.
also fighting in formation seems cool, hanging out with your bros, killing other Greeks, shitting yourself when the guy in front of you dies and now you gotta fight Ajax or some shit.
It's a lot better than Kingdom of Heaven. It just gets shit on because it's the fricking Iliad and greekos don't want to admit a lot of the problems stem from the original, like the shallow characterization.
Also, the scene of Priam and Achilles is better than the book. I checked it out after Musk tweeted it a few weeks ago, in the books Achilles is like sure, I'll fetch his body from the meat locker. Nowhere near as impactful.
They would've had actual reason to put Blacks in though. There's literally an army of Ethiopians that's supposed to show up after the Iliad ends, led by Memnon. And we know they're absolutely Black African Ethiopians, it's literally on ancient pottery.
>In Greek mythology, Memnon was a king of Aethiopia and son of Tithonus and Eos. As a warrior he was considered to be almost Achilles' equal in skill. During the Trojan War, he brought an army to Troy's defense and killed Antilochus, Nestor's son, during a fierce battle. Nestor challenged Memnon to a fight, but Memnon refused, being there was little honor in killing the aged man. Nestor then pleaded with Achilles to avenge his son's death. Despite warnings that soon after Memnon fell so too would Achilles, the two men fought. Memnon drew blood from Achilles, but Achilles drove his spear through Memnon's chest, sending the Aethiopian army running. The death of Memnon echoes that of Hector, another defender of Troy whom Achilles also killed out of revenge for a fallen comrade, Patroclus.
>After Memnon's death, Zeus was moved by Eos' tears and granted him immortality. Memnon's death is related at length in the lost epic Aethiopis, composed after The Iliad, circa the 7th century BC. Quintus of Smyrna records Memnon's death in Posthomerica. His death is also described in Philostratus' Imagines.
the book was better
Was Achilles a demigod in this movie?
No, it’s the Troy story with none of the supernatural stuff.
He looked very fast in his fight scenes.
One of the reasons people hate this movie is that it leaves out all the gods and stuff.
His mother felt very godlike.
Everyone speaking English...
Fricking dropped.
It's fun.
Who cares?
>Gladiator from Wish
Convince me otherwise
2000s kino
Whatever happened to Orlando Bloom
was about to ask the same about Eric Bana, he was good.
I seen him only in Outpost (2020) recently.
Zero lead charisma, dwindling ability to support.
Was already older than most people realized, and has always had a tennous hold on his accent, making big stardom tough.
he let himself get typecast as the period film twink sidekick archer/squire character who always cares more about getting pussy or staying alive than winning the battle.
Half true. His disastrous performance in The Outpost (which is a great film otherwise) nailed up that coffin.
twink death is rough
It's better to burn out than fade away.
He still looks like a gay though.
Good movie, bad adaptation.
He aged into Hugh Jackman.
He looks ok for 46 you dense zoomeroids
He stinks
>LOTR trilogy
>pirates of the Caribbean trilogy
>kingdom of heaven
>troy
guy had an amazing run
He did LoTR and Pirates of the Caribbean, I’m sure he’s just living his life.
Good until the Hector duel then it becomes homosexual garbage. The director's cut had big fake German tiddies and semi nude Rose Burne and a cool intro for Achilles but otherwise sucked. Frick whoever changed the score over the duel.
I enjoy it and Rose Byrne is such a piece of ass in this movie.
It's really not. As a Greek who's been studying the Iliad since 5, it totally misses the point and themes of the poem
It can be a good movie even if it is different to the original source. Maybe the director wanted to make it more real and not having gods and supernatural things.
Gladiator is another example of that. It's not a real story, it's just based in a historial period but is a good movie (at least for me).
were you one of the gays crying about 300 too
Bro I’m just trying to watch some cool Bronze Age action, not learn about your history of boy fricking
kino, worst part is Pitt's Brit accent fading in and out. Brad Pitt said he didn't like this movie because he was front and center too much, it wasn't subtle enough lmao
I think you like the idea of men in skirts.
near great? It IS fricking great.
I could never get into it. Banner and Pitt both give wooden, cartoonish performances imo.
I tried to watch it, but I turned it off after 10 minutes because the American accent was unbearable. Usually I don't have this problem, but in this case I just couldn't take it. Maybe I should watch it with Greek dubbing (if such even exist).
>we wuz Greeks n shiiiet
white people, everybody
Homer agrees with them
I liked the part where the captured chick fricks brad pit because that's what captured prostitutes do in war.
Pure Kino.
Have enjoyed its appreciation accelerate over the past few years.
it's alright. One of the best of the last 20 years settled in the ancient times. Way way better than that monstrosity about Alexander,wih Farrell
HECTOOOOOOOOOOOOOR!
I can do with shortening the war so that it looks that it doesn't look like it lasts a decade.
I can do with removing the gods and their shenanigans and interventions from the story save for Thetis, although it pisses me off.
I can do with turning Agamemnon into a saturday morning cartoon power-hungry villain, he wasn't a saint in the Iliad.
What I can't do with is shiting on Menelaus by turning him into a wife beater so that Helen follows Paris on her own volition.
What I can't do with is trying to make us root for that fricking coward c**t b***h-boy Paris who basically doomed his city just because he thought with his dick instead of his brain and wanted the sweetest poontang on Earth thanks to Aphrodite's schemes.
What I can't do with is having Hector kill Menelaus to protect his brother when he would most likely have left Paris die at the hands of the king of Sparta just so his death could at least try to bring back a bit of Troy's honor.
Still a great film, especially in the uncensored/director's cut, although some music changes are jarring, and some characterizations are polarizing as frick.
>when the shield walls hit each other
imagine the kinetic shock, i wonder how many fractures or full on arm breaks happened.
also fighting in formation seems cool, hanging out with your bros, killing other Greeks, shitting yourself when the guy in front of you dies and now you gotta fight Ajax or some shit.
Went to see it in the kinoplex at the time. A great movie, but always makes me sad. Troy should still stand, nobody likes greeks.
It's a lot better than Kingdom of Heaven. It just gets shit on because it's the fricking Iliad and greekos don't want to admit a lot of the problems stem from the original, like the shallow characterization.
Also, the scene of Priam and Achilles is better than the book. I checked it out after Musk tweeted it a few weeks ago, in the books Achilles is like sure, I'll fetch his body from the meat locker. Nowhere near as impactful.
It's fairly excellent for a israelitewood production centering on Ancient Greece. If it were made now they'd make everyone sodomites and noggers.
They would've had actual reason to put Blacks in though. There's literally an army of Ethiopians that's supposed to show up after the Iliad ends, led by Memnon. And we know they're absolutely Black African Ethiopians, it's literally on ancient pottery.
>In Greek mythology, Memnon was a king of Aethiopia and son of Tithonus and Eos. As a warrior he was considered to be almost Achilles' equal in skill. During the Trojan War, he brought an army to Troy's defense and killed Antilochus, Nestor's son, during a fierce battle. Nestor challenged Memnon to a fight, but Memnon refused, being there was little honor in killing the aged man. Nestor then pleaded with Achilles to avenge his son's death. Despite warnings that soon after Memnon fell so too would Achilles, the two men fought. Memnon drew blood from Achilles, but Achilles drove his spear through Memnon's chest, sending the Aethiopian army running. The death of Memnon echoes that of Hector, another defender of Troy whom Achilles also killed out of revenge for a fallen comrade, Patroclus.
>After Memnon's death, Zeus was moved by Eos' tears and granted him immortality. Memnon's death is related at length in the lost epic Aethiopis, composed after The Iliad, circa the 7th century BC. Quintus of Smyrna records Memnon's death in Posthomerica. His death is also described in Philostratus' Imagines.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memnon
>Nighilles
HECTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRR