I think we all here can agree we want the first 40K movie/series to be about the best Primarch, Sanguinius.
I think we all here can agree we want the first 40K movie/series to be about the best Primarch, Sanguinius.
I think we all here can agree we want the first 40K movie/series to be about the best Primarch, Sanguinius.
Is 40k big enough for an expensive movie to make enough money?
I have only a passing familiarity with it, enough to have vague idea of what Primarch means and who Sanguinius is, and I can safely say that I know far more than anyone I personally know.
No. Like all special effects movies it would need to have a huge audience, like Marvel superhero tier.
But 40k is a combination of offensively edgy and offensively childish, so you would alienate a lot of children and politically correct people, whilst also (potentially) turning away the young adult pseuds that thought Dark Knight was an intellectual movie.
Basically, the tone of the source material is weird so the tone of a film adaptation would have to be perfect.
So are we just pretending Robocop and Starship Troopers weren’t huge hits now
Robocop wasn't huge scale and budget, but more importantly had a distinct tone and clearcut themes that were definitely resonant in the 80's (and have stayed resonant)
Starship Troopers was a box office disappointment and critically panned, and has only become a cult classic years later. But again, the theme and tone of Starship Troopers is more identifiable: propaganda, 24 hours news cycle, militaristic jingoism from a western country perspective, cynical coming of age story.
I don't want to make it seem like I think 40k is intelligent, but it's more detached from modern society. It references lots of scifi and historical stuff and so to a modern, uninformed viewer seems really dense and in it's own little reality.
It's a higher level of fantasy so it's harder for a normie audience to be drawn into.
literally all movies work with name recognition alone nowadays. people don't "go out and watch a movie" anymore, overall ticket sales have been steadily decreased for over a decade now.
just going to the movies was a thing of the 80s and 90s, where it was possible to have a sleeper hit movie without any big actors, IP or directors attached
It’s the sci-fi for normies who want to pretend they aren’t normies and then go right back to eating up whatever the algorithm churns out
All they have to do is make an interesting sci fi movie, and market it as an interesting sci fi movie. The fact that it's 40k need not enter into it (except for the fans who will obviously know)
Then, people go to see it because it piques their interest.
Of course all of this is beyond the talent of most production companies.
The lore is extremely extensive, though. It can't be handled by a Star Wars style opening crawl.
I feel like a lot of people would be very confused.
No you totally could just drop the audience into the middle of the action. It isn’t much deeper than any other rpg setting.
>It isn’t much deeper than any other rpg setting.
How many of those are made into (successful) movies?
I don't think lore depth is an issue, my concern is you make a movie where 40k humans do literally anything they would do (fight a war against orks, kill heretics, make servitors, not do science etc) and the majority of any audience would just whine about how they're the bad guys and they think the protagonist should have just joined the rapist demons.
So I can't imagine any movie that wouldn't be 40k aesthetics but the plucky female MC explains to the Emperor how he's wrong and he resigns, thus freeing The Servitors (metaphor for black people)
>the majority of any audience would just whine about how they're the bad guys
I mean isn't that kinda the point? They certainly don't seem like good guys to me.
I thought the whole franchise was about grimdark edgy shit.
>I mean isn't that kinda the point?
No and if someone says that they don't get the setting.
>They certainly don't seem like good guys to me.
Ok, and? The modern inclination is as I posted
>"Oh the Imperium looks like baddies so they're baddies so I'm going to stop them!"
>"Woops I'm a tentacle monster made of feces now lol"
The 40k response is
>These guys have skulls on their hats. Skulls are what humans have therefore skulls are good therefore these are good guys also I'm moronic
I don’t think it should be adapted at all. I want to see new sci-fi kinos not established franchises. Plus the company that owns it is really shitty and rips people off.
You can't touch the Primarchs in anything 40k. Too much baggage.
I just want fat neckbeards to rage so I hope it's complete garbage
I want the first 40k movie to be about some random Inquisitors competing to exterminate the most heretics.
No Chaos, no xenos, just the wholesale slaughter of innocents because there was a whiff of insurrection.
And also throw in some theological debate about how best to worship the Emperor. This would also be completely pointless, like the current day debate of weather or no transubstantiation really transforms the crackers into Jesus or if it's just symbolic.
In short, everything that happens should be completely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. It's a big universe and you will not be missed.
It should not be about a Primarch, or any major character, it should be a new, smaller scale story about nightmarish conflict in some backwater shithole that accounts for .000001% of the imperial population. Thats what 40k does best, thats what all of the best stories are.
>backwater shithole
Or make it a giant hive world. These worlds are routinely lost and it barely matters to the bottom line. Remember the Imperium is slowly dieing, it's just taking a frick ton of time because it's so big.
>I feel like a lot of people would be very confused
Nothing needs to be explained.
Just look at Dunc.
Immerse the people and they will be happy to go for the ride. You only need enough information for the current scene. I don't need to know the 10k years of history to understand that this guardsmen doesn't want to piss off his commissar.
Live action 40k will never work.
30k is fricking garbage and feels more like a bunch of petty highschoolers arguing with eachother.
Leave the Primarchs out of it. They should only be distant, quasi-mythical heroes of the ancient past.
They should either do an adaptation of Eisenhorn or just create an original story of an Inquisitor and his acolytes hunting heretics. A small enough story with human enough characters to be relatable to the audience.
Eisenhorn, Gaunt's Ghosts, or Ciaphas Cain should be the most obvious stories to adapt, but none of them feature moronic apes in power armor as the leads so GW'll never greenlight them.
>What people want
1-2 hours of straight action. It could be just one entire long shot of a Space Marine on the battle field and it would be kino
>What we have been given
2 minute action scenes in 8 minute videos. Poorly animated cartoons. Mini series with 2 minutes of action in 10 minute episodes.
Look man I dont' even care what story characters etc.. the tv series/movies cover. I just want non troony non sjw writers with actually talent writing it. Hell I'll take budget effects too.
Make the film about a lowly Administratum clerk who assists their Governer in defending their sector, only it becomes increasingly apparent that the Governer is insane and delusionally overconfident in his capacity to defend the system with the strength of his PDF. The clerk notes that certain requests for aid have secretly gone unsent, and so decides to betray their boss in order to send out the call for help. The governer orders the clerk hunted down and exterminated, even as the capital hive city gets invaded and the arbites have other, more pressing business to worry about. The governer goes out in some insane, blaze of glory as an enemy ship is spontaneously detonated and crashes into his palace, killing him. Astartes have arrived, and rescue what's left of the city. The clerk is put on trial for disobeying orders, but considering the circumstances, they're offered leeway via an extended offer by one of the Inquisitors on the scene to join their entourage.
Film closes with the clerk leaving the planet on an Inquisitorial ship, with a whole galaxy of adventures to be had.
So the governor is Denathor basically. I'm cool with it.
I'm just going with the idea of covering a handful of useful bases all at once
>establish the idea of Mankind's vast, space empire with a paper pusher who works in the system
>demonstrates how dangerous the galaxy is
>show's the corruption, incompetence, and unfairness that can fester at the top
>but also shows that it's possible for mankind to come out strong and fight back
>uses Astartes as narrative devices in the form of distant, avenging angels
>covers a wide gamut of major imperial institutions: Administratum, Astartes, Arbites, Inquisition, PDF, and can easily slot in more
>working joe perspective can give us a more down to earth perspective on Imperial culture
>battle scenes but that's not the entire movie
And most importantly
>a sense that there's so much more out there beyond what the audience has seen in the film
>tfw never ever getting a 3 part trilogy on the Emperors birth and subsequent conquest of Terra
I want an adaptation of The First Heretic. It got a pretty round story arc, cool imagery and is one of the best warhammer books, even if contrarians would argue otherwise.
Just adapt the trilogy.
They would do Uzas so dirty
tfw Uzas did nothing wrong.
Making live action is such stupid idea, this can only work as CGI animation.
>best primarch
>not Konrad
Peak schizoid edgelord kino.
>Primarchhomosexualry
People like you make me wish The Purge was a thing.
they should just do it start to finish like a space hulk mission, almost in the style of Dredd 2012 - very little dialogue, near impossible assault against genestealers and lesser tyranids on the ship, showing the weapons, methods and mettle of the space marines.
at the end of the film the remaining space marines can reboard their ship, and fly back to the enormous mothership which is preparing for a massive war on a planet, showing how small the scale was of the intense battle that took up the rest of the film, with the marines unphased and simply preparing for the next fight.
no extensive lore, no background characters, no communication outside the ship until the very last part, no character names even until the last closing scene.
I want it to be a Seinfeldesque comedy. >What's the deal with gene cults? You ever noticed this?
Kino:
>Magnus
>Konrad
>Lorgar
>Perturabo
>Jaghatai Khan
>Vulkan
Boring:
>The Lion
>Sanguinius
>Dorn
>Guilliman
>Fulgrim
>Horus
Cringe:
>Russ
>Ferrus Manus
>Corax
>Alpharius Omegon
>Angron
>Mortarion