I thinks it's very harmful to the medium to pretend that modern comics aren't in the shitter.

I thinks it's very harmful to the medium to pretend that modern comics aren't in the shitter.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is anyone here doing that though?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Look at any of the Big 2 threads. At best they’re shills (it’d be comforting to think) but you have people actually claiming spurrier, Mackay, king, Taylor, ram v, Ewing, Russell, ect are all spectacular and angrily asserting you’re just a culture warrior if you hate them.

      Far too many people defend the dog shit being churned out.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What an interesting take OP, really revelatory stuff. I too see people enjoying things and i'm like, when's somebody brave enough gonna set them straight?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I’m not OP homosexual

          >I thinks it's very harmful to the medium to pretend that modern cape comics aren't in the shitter.
          FTFY. Not to say other categories are doing all that great either, but that's always the big reason why people don't take these kind of things seriously. The overall industry is chugging along adequately, it's the Big 2 that are doing so dogshit but also the ones taking up the most attention for it.

          Idk there are only like 6 or so non-big 2 books that are good and the American industry needs a strong direct market in order to be at its best. One writer, pilkey, props up the entire book store/Amazon market which is otherwise worse off than the direct market.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Honestly, I'd like to see the data on that stuff, cause anecdotally I've heard that the current hotness in the US comic book industry once you filter out cape comics is romance comics, which came after a huge boom in monster and scifi horror shit. Which reminds me a lot of how comics used to be before the Comics Code tried to kill them off.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >is romance comics
              Considering nobody can name a single one I don’t think that’s true. Also stop believing the lies you heard on YouTube, the CCA didn’t kill romance or horror, capes selling much better than them did already. EC was like the last publisher around doing non-capes and it was poor sales that drove them into the ground.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Don't have to be hostile, anon. I know cape comics are just a natural evolution/syncretism of the two, I just found it funny to think about that.

                >Considering nobody can name a single one I don’t think that’s true
                Someone tried to push The Girl from the Sea onto me once, does that count?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >The Girl from the Sea
                It came out three years ago and nobody has ever heard of it. Googling it the art looks terrible and it’s a scholastic book not an ongoing so pilkey is her direct competition not capes. And I can all but guarantee any ongoing comic routinely in the top 20 sold more y2y than it did.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Fair enough then, like I said it's just what I heard, but evidently I heard very wrong

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >CCA
                I do think it's funny how the state of the industry is blamed. Like the quality would have been better without it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It’s something the “progressive” types shill to act like the comics would have been gayer and thus more popular and totes amazeballs for decades which TOTALLY would have made it so the bubbles never formed or burst.

                It’s complete BS.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Considering nobody can name a single one I don’t think that’s true
                Does the Rogue and Gambit run from last year count?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No because that’s a cape comic.

                I get that you would like to see two dozen ongoing floppies from Marvel and an additional two dozen ongoing floppies from DC that feature the original characters as they were depicted in the 80s and 90s still preserved in amber as if Claremont/Wolfman/Dixon/Stern/DeFalco/Byrne/etc were still writing them in one long continuous arc

                I get that you want to spend your money on that specific scenario. Unfortunately it's just not going to happen. it's unrealistic and blinded by nostalgia. Complaining about it on the internet isn't going to change anything and constantly going "no everything is shit because I said so" is annoying.

                I get that you want Cinemaphile to be nothing but shills and happy customers. I get that you want endless wiener gobbling and cum gurgling. I get that you want nothing but good vibes and feels. But that’s just not going to happen. Complaining about what people are saying on the internet and constantly lamenting that “every complaint that I haven’t deemed worthy is bad because I said so” is just so annoying.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >is romance comics
              Considering nobody can name a single one I don’t think that’s true. Also stop believing the lies you heard on YouTube, the CCA didn’t kill romance or horror, capes selling much better than them did already. EC was like the last publisher around doing non-capes and it was poor sales that drove them into the ground.

              People are probably referring to Lore Olympus and other webtoons.

              Modern comics are great. Which ones do you read, OP?

              OP doesn't read comics.

              I like Miracleman, Superior Spider-Man, Immortal Thor, GODS, Ultimate Spider-Man, Avengers Twilight, Cable, Fantastic Four, Guardians of the Galaxy, Captain America and Venom. Which ones do you read?

              >just be aware that it's a bunch of crap
              What comics do you read? You seem very knowledgeable.

              I read a little bit of everything shy of webtoons. The most recent cape I read was Ultimate Spider-Man #1 by Hickman, and the most recent indie I read was Monica by Dan Clowes.
              Every so often, I read a bunch of titles from Marvel, DC, Image, etc. None of them stick.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I asked which comics do you read. I'm waiting for an actual list.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                NTA, but you're coming off as a real shill.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >cause anecdotally I've heard that the current hotness in the US comic book industry once you filter out cape comics is romance comics
              Uhh no, the current hotness once you filter out cape comics is clearly kid's comics, usually comedic or slice of life or adventure.
              There were only like 2 romance comics in the top sellers for Bookscan in 2022, and one of them was gay romance.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The thing is too when you look at the sales figures outside of pilkey they don’t sell as well as capes do lol. And some, like diary of a whimpy kid, aren’t even comics by any stretch of the definition.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        A lot of cape fans are a cape hero fans first and foremost. If their favorite in a good place, they would work hard to defend DC and Marvel. If they weren't, they would hate on them too. The quality doesn't matter much.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          None of them are in a good place though so that blows this thinking out of the water. I genuinely think it’s mostly paid posting.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        praising some few decent writers doesn't mean they have a positive view on the state of the industry as a whole

        also who the frick is praising Tom Taylor

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          All of those writers are just as bad as Taylor you homosexual

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous
          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >blanket statement informed by ragebait youtube channel

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They’re shills.
            The goal isn’t to be changed, it’s to control information and influence lurkers to agree with them. Nothing you say will change their minds because they’re paid plants with no emotion.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              man I just like that there's a writer doing grandiose metafictional plots spanning their entire bibliography who integrates woo woo magic shit into their storytelling and doesn't give a shit about powerlevel wankery now that Morrison has run off to who knows where

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Are you referring to the guy that wanked Storm?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                that's his one major flaw tbh, but Morrison has done it just as hard if not harder with Superman in the past

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Superman makes more sense.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I suppose, but they still have a pet character they wank off super-hard. Ewing is just a little less clever in how he applies Storm's protagonist powers to never lose ever.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                that's his one major flaw tbh, but Morrison has done it just as hard if not harder with Superman in the past

                Ewing simply isn’t a good writer. Morrison has more misses than many of his fans want to admit but when he’s on it’s genuinely fantastic. Ewing doesn’t have that. He destroyed Loki as a character years ago and he’s so far up his ass he’s become a tonsil stone in his own throat.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I disagree

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >far up his ass
                I agree about Ewing, but the use of this phrase is pretty braindead.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That’s quite literally the problem with Ewing. He’s created this alternate canon bullshit that he just decided was better than the actual canon and crawls up inside it with pseudo intellectual psychobabble trying to make it sound any less moronic than it is.

                He’s a fricking clown. Is that better?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                what? If anything he's too slavishly devoted to canon even if other writers come through like a freight train with zero concern for what it does to other books. Building a metafiction in a space where no one else is working isn't "alternate canon bullshit"

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                He has to be, he's next in line for Shogun.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                nta, but sorry, no the tarot thing in the storm comic is shit, it doesn't make sense narratively. it's quite literally tryhard shit where it doesn't belong

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Fricking typo.

      Evident in this thread. Also

      Look at any of the Big 2 threads. At best they’re shills (it’d be comforting to think) but you have people actually claiming spurrier, Mackay, king, Taylor, ram v, Ewing, Russell, ect are all spectacular and angrily asserting you’re just a culture warrior if you hate them.

      Far too many people defend the dog shit being churned out.

      .

      What an interesting take OP, really revelatory stuff. I too see people enjoying things and i'm like, when's somebody brave enough gonna set them straight?

      You don't really care about the medium if you're okay with the current state of things.
      Not saying you shouldn't enjoy things, just be aware that it's a bunch of crap and defending it as good or great comics is working against your interests in the medium, if you have any. If you're just a fan of the cape genre, don't pretend otherwise.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >just be aware that it's a bunch of crap
        What comics do you read? You seem very knowledgeable.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >You don't really care about the medium
        >If you're just a fan of the cape genre, don't pretend otherwise.

        You're all over the place mixing the MEDIUM of comics with the GENRE of capeshit. And then somehow accusing me of only being into capes..huh? The MEDIUM is just fine, too good even, I go into my local indie comics shop and only try to stay for 5 mins or so and cap myself at about $20 bc theres thousands of dollars worth of interesting comics there. The genre of capeshit is always hit or miss, as there's only a handful of good writers at any time. Even then, if you look hard enough, you can find some decent books. It's just, "Gentleman, I am here to say comics...are bad!" Is a tired take. It's on you to find good shit, it's out there. The medium is just fine.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >I go into my local indie comics shop
          That’s not a thing. Name the shop to prove me wrong. When I look them up I better not see so much as a back issue in their boxes or current diamond catalog comic on their shelf. No diamond trades either.

          “Indie comic shop” shut the frick up.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >That’s not a thing. Name the shop to prove me wrong. When I look them up I better not see so much as a back issue in their boxes or current diamond catalog comic on their shelf. No diamond trades either.
            >“Indie comic shop” shut the frick up.

            Oh it is a thing, and it's fricking sweet. Like I said, too sweet actually. Highly recommend. As a bonus, Charles Burns is just chillin' there all the time, and will strike up a pleasant conversation with you out of the blue. Met Clowes there a couple months ago too. Now are you going to politely concede, or move the goal posts?

            https://www.instagram.com/partnersandson/

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Looks like it’s about three years old so that’s commendable. I stand corrected and we’ll see how long it lasts.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >accusing me of only being into capes
          No. That's why I started with "if".
          >The MEDIUM is just fine
          Not in the US it isn't.
          The cape genre and the American industry are in shambles. The few manga that try, the rare euro comic that trickles through, and the even rarer indie are not a good indicator of a medium doing well. I have found decent comics, maybe one or two good ones, but nothing great from the past four years.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      yes. krakoa shills have no taste, and dc/spiderman/sonic fans will buy shit off the shelf just because it's there

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, that's why the Eisner's got rid of its "Comics Journalism" award.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Pop culture journalism has always been shit

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        True but the Eisners is ran by shit people and even they couldn't stand what comic book journalism has done. Not only did it ruin the industry by NOT SHITTING ON BAD BOOKS but it also pushed garbage writers which lead to the current predicament.

        I mean, you its bad when Twitter/Elon Musk would have technically won the award for best Comic Book Journalism due to the #ComicsBrokeMe. That platform, by accident, has done more journalism than anyone in the industry.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I thinks it's very harmful to the medium to pretend that modern cape comics aren't in the shitter.
    FTFY. Not to say other categories are doing all that great either, but that's always the big reason why people don't take these kind of things seriously. The overall industry is chugging along adequately, it's the Big 2 that are doing so dogshit but also the ones taking up the most attention for it.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Modern comics are great. Which ones do you read, OP?

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is it really though?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      OP doesn't read comics.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Marvel fans are like Disney fans from Cinemaphile or DnD, fans from /tg/
    Marvel is garbage, not even close to being average, read other shit if you want good comics.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I like Miracleman, Superior Spider-Man, Immortal Thor, GODS, Ultimate Spider-Man, Avengers Twilight, Cable, Fantastic Four, Guardians of the Galaxy, Captain America and Venom. Which ones do you read?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Which ones do you read?
        You mean superhero and adventure comics? Judge Dredd, classic Conan and Hellboy, are some mainstream ones that are just much better than any Marvel crap.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >much better than any Marvel crap.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Comics are wide swath my guy, not just Marvel and DC, there's probably 300 to 500 books out a month, chances are somebody out there is making the book you want.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Actually it’s more like 120-150 a month. Most of what’s outside the big 2 isn’t all that much better.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >it’s more like 120-150 a month

        There's over 100 from DC and Marvel alone. There's easily over 200 total.

  8. 1 month ago
    LopiBats

    They're in the trash because no one is reading them.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      people stopped reading in the iron age, when variant foil #1s were being bought up in collector crazes, the era of early Spawn. They still don't read most comics, only hipster 'graphic novels' that try really hard to distinguish themselves from capesludge. Rarely, a young zoomer or gen alpha will pick up a floppy, get fricking disgusted by either the art, the politics, or the story you need five previous comics from three different titles to understand and won't be concluded for eight more comics but you need to buy those from five different titles.

      Movie studios and media monopolies really should have let the big two die already.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Dude, have you been living under a rock?
        Everyone and his mother on Cinemaphile know that modern comics are shit.

        Actually it’s more like 120-150 a month. Most of what’s outside the big 2 isn’t all that much better.

        What comics do you guys read? You seem experts on what comics suck.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Lotus land, hexagon bridge just ended this week, time before time which wrapped up recently, worlds finest (but I’m dropping it after the Gog arc), Shazam (but I’m dropping that after the next issue), GA sandman mini but that’s almost done. Issue one of deer editor seemed solid so I bought it. I like Deep Cuts which is ending soon and I like JLA/Godzilla/kong even if it’s over priced and is ending soon. Batman Santa Claus was solid but was only 4 issues.

          I loved twig, ghost cage, ascender/descender, ronin island, old dog which were recent. I like a lot of comics. Everything I named I paid for.

          I’ll be down to like 6 comics a month soon. I have the expendable income and propensity to buy 30 a month. Big 2 keep making what I like woke (I hate the term but I’m not finding a more fitting one and frankly don’t give a frick if you don’t like buzzwords) or cancelling them.

          I want jon kent to be a kid and straight again and I’ll buy every Super “family” book they release. I want Aquaman to be short haired, beardless and blonde and I’ll buy it, I want fan4 written by someone who isn’t a massive wienersucker like Slott or north, I want she-hulk written by a straight white dude who wants her to look like a Victoria secret model and never ever be in a court room like in Byrne’s run, I want the x-men back in the mansion, I want thor to never have to see Jane again let alone hand her a hammer and to be written by someone who has never so much as watched MSNBC, I want punisher to be Frank castle and not be written by someone who’s anti 2A, I want my fricking comics back.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The first part of your comment was reasonable and then

            >I want jon kent to be a kid and straight again and I’ll buy every Super “family” book they release. I want Aquaman to be short haired, beardless and blonde and I’ll buy it, I want fan4 written by someone who isn’t a massive wienersucker like Slott or north, I want she-hulk written by a straight white dude who wants her to look like a Victoria secret model and never ever be in a court room like in Byrne’s run, I want the x-men back in the mansion, I want thor to never have to see Jane again let alone hand her a hammer and to be written by someone who has never so much as watched MSNBC, I want punisher to be Frank castle and not be written by someone who’s anti 2A, I want my fricking comics back.

            It just turned into "not muh". Why aren't nice collected editions of the era you love enough for you? You sound like a consoomer charactergay?
            The classic stories aren't enough for you, you need to consoom endless sequels until the day you die

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You’re literally doing the same only about actual customers rather than fictional characters. You wish the consumer was different which is absurd.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >You wish the consumer was different
                No I don't, I don't care what you want to spend your money on.

                But this time period you look back on fondly is gone and never coming back. And it wasn't some universally golden age for the craft of comics, it was just a personally nice time for you. You can be upset that it's gone but restoring the thing you want is so low on the priority list and drafting complaints about it isn't going to bring it back any quicker.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Why aren't nice collected editions of the era you love enough for you? You sound like a consoomer charactergay?
                >The classic stories aren't enough for you, you need to consoom endless sequels until the day you die
                Followed up by
                >No I don't, I don't care what you want to spend your money on.
                Lol make up your mind. You, who doesn’t buy a single floppy, seem to care an awful lot what the people who do would like to see on the rack.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I get that you would like to see two dozen ongoing floppies from Marvel and an additional two dozen ongoing floppies from DC that feature the original characters as they were depicted in the 80s and 90s still preserved in amber as if Claremont/Wolfman/Dixon/Stern/DeFalco/Byrne/etc were still writing them in one long continuous arc

                I get that you want to spend your money on that specific scenario. Unfortunately it's just not going to happen. it's unrealistic and blinded by nostalgia. Complaining about it on the internet isn't going to change anything and constantly going "no everything is shit because I said so" is annoying.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                This is why comics are failing. You have a son user base CLAMORING for the comics they want. Giving you the answers to the test. And homosexuals like you somehow have a stranglehold on these comics and demand people buy shit they don’t want and shut up or just frick off and never buy comics despite wanting to.

                Anon gave a decent list of recent non-big 2 comics and you act like he just wants to read capeshit because, I don’t know, you’re either a shill or just here to shitpost like a massive homosexual.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You have a consumer base*

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >he just wants to read capeshit because, I don’t know, you’re either a shill or just here to shitpost like a massive homosexual.
                The internet has been taken over by psyop shills sadly. And they reach every corner of the internet.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >You have a consumer CLAMORING for the comics they want. Giving you the answers to the test.

                Even when you were getting what you wanted, sales declined. Explain that.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Even when you were getting what you wanted, sales declined
                Explain when you think that was.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The 90snand the 2010s

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I specifically hate the new 52 and 90s edge. See this is a major problem. You’re not actually knowledgeable about the subject matter to understand those two eras are exactly the opposite of what I like. And comparing the 90s when comics boomed before crashing to the modern industry is just woefully moronic. The media landscape was completely different and even at the back end of the “burst” the sales were much MUCH better than they are now. Hell, even the new 52 sold much better than the dogshit they’re churning out now and I hated that shit and dropped every DC title for like 8 years.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >You have a consumer CLAMORING for the comics they want. Giving you the answers to the test.

                Even when you were getting what you wanted, sales declined. Explain that.

                I get that you would like to see two dozen ongoing floppies from Marvel and an additional two dozen ongoing floppies from DC that feature the original characters as they were depicted in the 80s and 90s still preserved in amber as if Claremont/Wolfman/Dixon/Stern/DeFalco/Byrne/etc were still writing them in one long continuous arc

                I get that you want to spend your money on that specific scenario. Unfortunately it's just not going to happen. it's unrealistic and blinded by nostalgia. Complaining about it on the internet isn't going to change anything and constantly going "no everything is shit because I said so" is annoying.

                >You wish the consumer was different
                No I don't, I don't care what you want to spend your money on.

                But this time period you look back on fondly is gone and never coming back. And it wasn't some universally golden age for the craft of comics, it was just a personally nice time for you. You can be upset that it's gone but restoring the thing you want is so low on the priority list and drafting complaints about it isn't going to bring it back any quicker.

                The first part of your comment was reasonable and then

                >I want jon kent to be a kid and straight again and I’ll buy every Super “family” book they release. I want Aquaman to be short haired, beardless and blonde and I’ll buy it, I want fan4 written by someone who isn’t a massive wienersucker like Slott or north, I want she-hulk written by a straight white dude who wants her to look like a Victoria secret model and never ever be in a court room like in Byrne’s run, I want the x-men back in the mansion, I want thor to never have to see Jane again let alone hand her a hammer and to be written by someone who has never so much as watched MSNBC, I want punisher to be Frank castle and not be written by someone who’s anti 2A, I want my fricking comics back.

                It just turned into "not muh". Why aren't nice collected editions of the era you love enough for you? You sound like a consoomer charactergay?
                The classic stories aren't enough for you, you need to consoom endless sequels until the day you die

                Post a picture of the ongoing comics you buy.

                You have no reason to be this invested in tearing down another persons opinion about what they want to read - a person who listed what they buy - if you don’t even pay for comics weekly.

                So prove me wrong when I say: you’re just here to shitpost about something you have zero investment in.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You never know, that anon might lie and post a random picture from somewhere and post it. That’s how far shills are willing to go.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Any picture they post I’m running through saucenao. But also I’m actually of the belief it’s one of the DC editors and they’ll just post their comps.

                I find it insane they’re so angry and seem to have forgotten that entire reply thread tracks back to anon listing a bunch of comics that aren’t big 2 (a few really good ones too) despite saying they want to buy more capes as well.

                It’s an inability to break from the image they have in their mind of the consumer they hate. Nobody reading twig was clamoring for 90s edge or new 52 trash.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You can't talk about what comics you want without descending into some kind of BoundingIntoComics comicsgate outrage gay.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                NTA, but you do sound like a shill.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I notice you didn’t even acknowledge anons list, YOU are the one who decided they couldn’t have an opinion you disagreed with. YOU are the one trying to mold this into a culture war. YOU are the one who doesn’t buy comics yet feels the need to police threads like this.

                You’re a fricking cancer. You’re everything wrong with society these days. A culture warrior through and through. I wish with every fiber of my being that I could see you burned at the stake.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                take your meds

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I accept your concession.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >still writing them in one long continuous arc
                Actually that’s a major problem and tells me you don’t know anything about the industry. Writers should have shorter rope not longer. Aaron’s Avengers, Snyder’s JL, Taylor’s Nightwing, Percy’s Wolverine, Rowell’s She-Hulk, McKay’s Moon Knight were/are all dogshit but it wouldn’t be so bad if they just lasted like 12-15 issues. The problem is all the worst writers get long ass runs.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's called X-Men Forever it ran for 40 some odd issues and ended, there's also X-Factor and New Mutants spin offs.
                The Spider-Man version is called Symbiote Spider-Man and is a series of miniseries that still goes on today.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                and those nostalgia mini are always at the bottom of the sales chart, proving that costumers aren't begging for the older stuff.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Is that because they don't want old stuff, or is it because Marvel is fricking up its new stuff to the point readers don't want the nostalgia minis because the new stuff taints them?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Anything Bronze Age is peak comics. My personal favorite is DC Comics Presents.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The Bronze Age is okay.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Reading silver surfer.
          Shit's cash.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          since marvel has decided to shit on beast and double down on the greatest character assassination in the entirety of fricking Cinemaphile history, i have read that 10 part yoda miniseries, star trek: defiant, the forged, monstress, and i just picked up the coda omnibus as an impulse purchase which i rarely do unless it's already used for a cheaper price

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >the iron age

        That's not really a thing. There's only really 3 recognized "ages" in American comics.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Four.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Golden, Silver, Bronze. "Modern" is not an "age".

            I don't think Cinemaphile even understands the concept of "ages" in regards to comics or media or societies or anything.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >I don’t think Cinemaphile
              That includes you, then, homosexual. I’m so sick of people referring to Cinemaphile as the single person they’re disagreeing with.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              There are at least four ages, numbnuts. That's not up for debate.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Only a complete moron would think that we're still in the Bronze Age of Comics.
              I wish we were still making comics like the Bronze Age, but we've moved so far beyond.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I think what the moron wa alleging was that you can’t name the age you’re currently in, which is true, but it’s absolutely moronic to act like any of the ages were 50 years long. Whether you want to college it widescreen, reboot age, or stick with metal and call it the rusted age the fact of the matter is Bronze Age ended around 2000 and we’re almost on to an age beyond its successor even. I’d say we’re firmly in the dark ages of comics frankly.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Whether you want to college it
                Whether you want to call it*

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    OP I’m going to guess you fall into one, or maybe both, of these camps
    >convinced that things x number of years ago were so much better when in reality you’re just stuck in the past and wish that time hadn’t moved on (did you know there’s a whole group of people out there who actively hunt for those old CRT TVs? And act like they’ve found some sort of hidden treasure when they find one at a Goodwill for like five bucks? What the frick)
    >you don’t actually read comics or haven’t for several years you’re just basing this opinion of yours off of outrage-bait YouTube videos or posts here on Cinemaphile (“omg you -like- the new issues of x?! What are you a shill?? No I haven’t read any of it myself I just know they’re bad!”)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Wrong on both counts.

      >Hey guys, hot take here, but modern comics suck!
      Stop reading capeshit
      >No but look at the state of-
      Stop reading capeshit, the only people who still read that shit are people who don't require any engaging storytelling, or people looking to be mad all the time. I get it, comic book characters got real frickin' popular there for a good bit the last decade, but it's time to admit it was all movies and nobody gave a shit about the actual comic end of things. Just move the frick on.

      I read a little bit of everything. Euro comics somewhat tide me over, but not really. This board swears by cape titles and that's my problem.

      lol

      I've been to a bookstore recently, and the puny "graphic novel" section was mostly abandoned, whole the manga section always had at least a few people browsing. They were mostly chicks.

      Let me guess, your solution is to retcon away everything you don't like which will only end with endless confusion of what is and is not canon and people still dropping comics

      Capes need to be eradicate along with the confusion, but that's not being realistic.
      At this point, it would take a miracle to fix comics.

      Maybe I just don't believe shit's as doomed as you think. This is not hard to understand for neurotypicals.
      The overall quality across the board has been poor since the early 90s, still almost every week there's at least one release worth reading. That's enough for me. I ignore the bad shit and check out the good shit.

      Except it feels like no good shit is coming out of the anglosphere lately.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Hey everyone, it's That Guy.
        Westerns of whatever genre gets you hard isn't going to appear out of thin air because superhero comics disappear.
        It is on you as the consumer to actually support the types of genres you want made. I don't get why manga fans are so ashamed to read manga and come here every week crowing about sales figures and the Barnes and Noble bookshelf (as if any self respecting comic fan would go there to buy comics)
        Please stop projecting your shame over still reading One Piece on us for still reading Spider-Man, we like the format just fine.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >This board swears by cape titles and that's my problem
        Then maybe find some place else? Unless you’re moot come back from the grave this isn’t your house and you have every ability to just frick right off
        >capes need to be eradicate
        Oh man look out everyone we’ve got a real cool guy here! I bet you’re just drowning in pussy can you send a blonde my way?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The gold foil in crt's are worth much more than five bucks.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dude, have you been living under a rock?
    Everyone and his mother on Cinemaphile know that modern comics are shit.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I didn't even know this stuff was going on with the big 2. All these comics stories people complain about, what normie is aware of this? None. You guys are pissing yourself off forcing yourself to read this stuff when it has zero impact on the mainstream media interpretations of DC and Marvel.

    All I knew about was the MCU, DCAU, some animated movies, and the DCEU. And more recently The Batman film.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      To be fair, remember how hard Secret Empire backfired when normies were informed Marvel was turning Captain America into a nazi?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I had no idea that happened.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, I remember actual newspapers had articles in their media section about the comic book event of Captain America becoming a nazi and how pissed off a lot of fans and people in the israeli community were. One of the few times I saw the news caring about Marvel outside of the MCU.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Wasn't aware, and honestly I don't care.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Geez, who pissed in your cheerios this morning, anon?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I don't understand how you interpreted that as me being me mad. The nazi thing just doesn't matter to me. I didn't even know about it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Usually most people don't need to emphasize they don't care about something, they just don't mention it or bring it up again. Either way, the story itself wasn't integral to anything, I could have substituted something like Superman's son coming out as gay in the comics, it's just illustrating that normies can actually be convinced to care about this comic book shit beyond the terminally online chuds and social justice types, it just takes the right level of flamebait from the big 2.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >what normie is aware of this? None. You guys are pissing yourself off forcing yourself to read this stuff when it has zero impact on the mainstream media interpretations of DC and Marvel.

      I had no idea that happened.

      >I had no idea that happened.

      Wasn't aware, and honestly I don't care.

      >Wasn't aware, and honestly I don't care.

      Maybe it's not about normies not caring about comics and more that you're too dumb to follow things

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >more that you're too dumb to follow things
        Not everyone is a sheep, anon.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >when it has zero impact on the mainstream media interpretations of DC and Marvel.
      Why would anybody be concerned for "media interpretations of DC and Marvel" when all of them are worse than the comics?

      • 1 month ago
        LopiBats

        Capeshit Comics are a shitstain written by fricking idiots. I'm fricking glad they don't follow that garbage. Comic accuracy is only for losers who like shit stories. No one wants to see Batman fricking pee himself on the big screen.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Capeshit Comics are a shitstain written by fricking idiots.

          They're written by you? Explains a lot, really.

          • 1 month ago
            LopiBats

            >lying shill
            Sad!

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          And yet adaptations are 10 times worse than the comics. Quite a feat.

          • 1 month ago
            LopiBats

            t. capeshit comictard

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >You've been doing it since March of last year.
              How the frick do you remember that? Obsessed chronically online frick.

              >lying shill
              Sad!

              >LopiBats seething at the truth again

              • 1 month ago
                LopiBats

                >lying
                Sad!

              • 1 month ago
                LopiBats

                >lying shill
                Sad!

                >projecting shill impostor
                Sad!

              • 1 month ago
                LopiBats

                >lying
                Sad!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If you don't read comics, then your lack of knowledge regarding the industry doesn't matter and you're a gay for pretending it does.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >what normie is aware of this, none

      that's the point we're making. writers are presenting shit as if normies are reading but they fricking don't read comics. normies only might go see movies and not give a shit because normies are fricking normies, they don't give a frick about literally anything except maybe whatever their cell phone algorithm tells them to be hypnotized by at any given moment. normie behavior isn't a fricking argument

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Hey guys, hot take here, but modern comics suck!
    Stop reading capeshit
    >No but look at the state of-
    Stop reading capeshit, the only people who still read that shit are people who don't require any engaging storytelling, or people looking to be mad all the time. I get it, comic book characters got real frickin' popular there for a good bit the last decade, but it's time to admit it was all movies and nobody gave a shit about the actual comic end of things. Just move the frick on.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    lol

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is the third time you post this picture, weirdo. You've been doing it since March of last year.

      • 1 month ago
        LopiBats

        >You've been doing it since March of last year.
        How the frick do you remember that? Obsessed chronically online frick.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I check the archive with one click. How new are you?

          • 1 month ago
            LopiBats

            >lying shill
            Sad!

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >so starved for attention you not only have to make sure everyone knows it’s you when you post on an anonymous anime image board but also have to try and push some lame as frick meme
              Many such cases!

              • 1 month ago
                LopiBats

                >lying shill
                Sad!

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Stop giving the sad no life moron attention and he'll kill himself.

              • 1 month ago
                LopiBats

                >samegay lying
                Sad!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >posting a photo when it's on topic is cringe and weird

        stop talking

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >dune by boom!
      I always forget those exists, are they readable at least?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Absolutely not

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    there are several modern cape comics I follow and enjoy 🙂

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Let me guess, your solution is to retcon away everything you don't like which will only end with endless confusion of what is and is not canon and people still dropping comics

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Wouldn't be mine. The amount of shit needed to sift through to decide what is and isn't canon is far more investment than just letting invested writers and fans carry on with their shit. I'd just add more cheaply made film tie-in comics, crossovers, and introduction-friendly titles like Marvel Adventures where it's just updating/retelling older tales for the kids, with room to throw in potentially all-new stories for fun.

      Cause if we went with the original plan which would be to actually wrap up the character stories/journeys of particularly long-past-their-prime capes to make way for new blood and stories, you'd rightly call me a complete moron for ruining cape comics

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      OP I’m going to guess you fall into one, or maybe both, of these camps
      >convinced that things x number of years ago were so much better when in reality you’re just stuck in the past and wish that time hadn’t moved on (did you know there’s a whole group of people out there who actively hunt for those old CRT TVs? And act like they’ve found some sort of hidden treasure when they find one at a Goodwill for like five bucks? What the frick)
      >you don’t actually read comics or haven’t for several years you’re just basing this opinion of yours off of outrage-bait YouTube videos or posts here on Cinemaphile (“omg you -like- the new issues of x?! What are you a shill?? No I haven’t read any of it myself I just know they’re bad!”)

      >Hey guys, hot take here, but modern comics suck!
      Stop reading capeshit
      >No but look at the state of-
      Stop reading capeshit, the only people who still read that shit are people who don't require any engaging storytelling, or people looking to be mad all the time. I get it, comic book characters got real frickin' popular there for a good bit the last decade, but it's time to admit it was all movies and nobody gave a shit about the actual comic end of things. Just move the frick on.

      Wrong on both counts.
      [...]
      I read a little bit of everything. Euro comics somewhat tide me over, but not really. This board swears by cape titles and that's my problem.
      [...]
      I've been to a bookstore recently, and the puny "graphic novel" section was mostly abandoned, whole the manga section always had at least a few people browsing. They were mostly chicks.
      [...]
      Capes need to be eradicate along with the confusion, but that's not being realistic.
      At this point, it would take a miracle to fix comics.
      [...]
      Except it feels like no good shit is coming out of the anglosphere lately.

      Anti-superhero gays are WAY worse than the superhero gays they complain about. Easily the worst segment of fandom.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No way. Capeshitters are among the worst of the worst. Anti-capeshitters are just reacting to their awfulness.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No, he was right the first time

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Of course you feel that way, you're a cape bum.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You would think that because capes live rent free in your head anyway

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Of course they're in my head. I read them.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No, he’s right. You don’t typically see capegays going into indie threads going
          >scoff, you read European comics?! Batman is real comics you shits
          Or capegays making thread after thread after thread after thread after thread after thread about how pretentious poorly drawn indie comics are a blight on the industry

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      not op, but no i would not retcon x-men. i'd reboot them to before bendis

      since marvel has decided to shit on beast and double down on the greatest character assassination in the entirety of fricking Cinemaphile history, i have read that 10 part yoda miniseries, star trek: defiant, the forged, monstress, and i just picked up the coda omnibus as an impulse purchase which i rarely do unless it's already used for a cheaper price

      also i forgot to mention sacrificers by remender, which i have no idea where it's going but i like remender because i liked uncanny x-force and Low

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe I just don't believe shit's as doomed as you think. This is not hard to understand for neurotypicals.
    The overall quality across the board has been poor since the early 90s, still almost every week there's at least one release worth reading. That's enough for me. I ignore the bad shit and check out the good shit.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What's your point?

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I've been thinking of doing a storytime series (either weekly or daily) of older overlooked comics highlighting underappreciated writers and artists and just random stories or series that are largely forgotten but shouldn't be. I've been finding that even average comics from the 70s and 80s were better than 99% of ANYTHING currently being published.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I've been finding that even average comics from the 70s and 80s were better than 99% of ANYTHING currently being published.

      Which era comics did you read when younger? Because I've started to notice audiences deep diving into older material from before they were born in protest against how bad modern entertainment is in general. That should've been a wakeup call for everyone in comics and the entertainment industry

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Because I've started to notice audiences deep diving into older material from before they were born in protest against how bad modern entertainment is in general.

        BINGO. I'm from the post-crash era. I still have the same opinion I always did about comics from the 2000s and even the 90s. There was stuff great stuff then mixed in with a lot of bad stuff.

        But what's really blowing me away right now about comics from the 70s and 80s isn't even how good the BEST comics from those eras are, it's how good the TYPICAL comics were. The fact that the industry used to have STANDARDS and made an actual effort to not publish crap is mindblowing to me. That's unthinkable now. It was even unthinkable when I was younger and getting into comics. I'll read some random issue of the first volume of What If? and not only will the art be better than anyone currently drawing a monthly is capable of, but the story will make actual sense and the characterizations will be consistent. Not one fricking title can currently claim that.

        I'd actually argue that the best comics from the 90s and 2000s were just as good as the best comics from the 70s and 80s. The real difference is the other 90+%, which went from being "usually competent with the occasional underrated gem" to "downright unreadable".

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous
          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Did you miss the part where I explicitly mentioned that I'm younger than those comics? Like decades younger.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I think you're the old man in this scenario

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            See:

            I think you're the old man in this scenario

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's funny to me because I remember in the 00s comics people (whether some Gen X/early millennial fans or the Boomers in the industry) were aggressively insisting no young reader would read stuff from before they were born. Sure, a lot of times that's true, but there were always at least a few people willing to make the effort. But that's also why it seemed so unusual for me to see a lot of people, not just on Cinemaphile or Cinemaphile but outside of this board, say they're seeking out old stuff, whether comics or movies. It tells me a lot of new stuff is not meeting even the minimum requirements, that the old stuff did.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I refuse to believe this isnt a yt comment copypasted. It even has the CAPITALIZED words every sentence

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The 80s, 90s, and 00s had most of the best comics from the Anglosphere.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You have to find the right times or you may not get replies.
      Godspeed.

      Hey everyone, it's That Guy.
      Westerns of whatever genre gets you hard isn't going to appear out of thin air because superhero comics disappear.
      It is on you as the consumer to actually support the types of genres you want made. I don't get why manga fans are so ashamed to read manga and come here every week crowing about sales figures and the Barnes and Noble bookshelf (as if any self respecting comic fan would go there to buy comics)
      Please stop projecting your shame over still reading One Piece on us for still reading Spider-Man, we like the format just fine.

      I'm not your bogeyman. Sorry.

      [...]
      [...]
      [...]
      Anti-superhero gays are WAY worse than the superhero gays they complain about. Easily the worst segment of fandom.

      I'm not anti-superhero. It's just that superhero comics today are trash. The only real solution is to wipe the slate completely clean.

      >This board swears by cape titles and that's my problem
      Then maybe find some place else? Unless you’re moot come back from the grave this isn’t your house and you have every ability to just frick right off
      >capes need to be eradicate
      Oh man look out everyone we’ve got a real cool guy here! I bet you’re just drowning in pussy can you send a blonde my way?

      Nah. This is The Place.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        "The only real solution" is for Marvel and DC to shut down. They haven't been profitable in 30 years, but Disney and WB never pull the plug on anything, so they're allowed to continue losing money forever.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >You have to find the right times or you may not get replies.
        >Godspeed.

        Yeah, I'd probably do storytimes in the afternoon or early evening (going by EST). I'd guess that's when the most users are on.

        This is of course assuming I even do these at all. IF I do it won't be until at least March though, because I'm going to be busy as frick for the next month or two at least. After that I (barring any unforeseen bullshit) will have a ton of free time for (most of) the rest of this year, so if I'm going to do a storytime series then that'd be as good of a time as any.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >It's just that superhero comics today are trash.
        This is what makes you and the anon who started the DC thread sound like homosexuals. If you were to come in and say “I hate how amazing spider-man has that shit with Paul” or “fricking hell the multiverse shit in Batman is gay as frick” or “fricking Krakoa fricking shits in x-men” it’d be easier to take you seriously but there are hundreds of super hero comics being put out by DC, Marvel, Image, whatever and when homosexuals go “they’re all trash!” you just sound like a YouTube vlogger wiener guzzler who doesn’t actually read anything. But hey let’s say I’m wrong! Maybe you do read every single super hero comic being put out ever and you think they’re all trash. I’d have to ask
        >why
        Why continue to support something you don’t like? Is it at all possible you’re maybe growing out of super heroes? They just don’t give you the enjoyment they used to? I used to be huge into coomer comics, I’d base my whole pull list over shit I could fap to but I grew out of it. Is it maybe possible that that’s why you’re not enjoying what you’re currently reading? Or maybe not, maybe you just genuinely don’t like what’s currently being published. So then don’t buy it. You don’t have to make multiple threads a week going on about “how awful comics are now” and just shit on anyone’s suggestions. Just
        >move on

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Why continue to support something you don’t like?
          I don't buy this shit.
          You can always move on from this thread.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >I don't buy this shit
            Then why the frick should anyone here give any sort of flying frick about what you think?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Because I'm right.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I’m right about this thing I’ve admitted to not actually participating in
                ????????

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm reading, but not buying. I'm discussing quality, not sales.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It’s weird you admit to being a colossal homosexual and think you’re being anything other than a colossal homosexual

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The entire internet condensed into one post

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The Internet is so fake. You can't go anywhere without a flow of controlled falsified information.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    America as a country done. No one likes us anyways.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    See how needy the frickup is? Ignore the shitter; let him an hero for us all.

  22. 1 month ago
    LopiBats

    >lying
    Sad!

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There are some good comics here and there, but yeah, it seems like it's dried up a bit.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    No, it's not. You're just confirming that you don't understand the concept of "ages".

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No, YOU don't understand how periodization works.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Look, this is not open to debate. You don't even understand what the concept itself MEANS.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          [...]
          No, it's not. You're just confirming that you don't understand the concept of "ages".

          Golden, Silver, Bronze. "Modern" is not an "age".

          I don't think Cinemaphile even understands the concept of "ages" in regards to comics or media or societies or anything.

          You haven’t actually said anything but “not uh”

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Despite how well known capeshit character are, the comics themselves have always (or at least sice like the 70's) been a very niche market. The arrival of comic book shop sealing that fate.
    While the political pandering is annoying (I love Ewing and I think he's one of the best big two writter, but he really has an ability to make me roll my eyes with his unsubtle messaging) I wouldn't say they are significantly worst than they have always been. Most 60's, 70's, 80's 90's, 00', 10' comic sucked, only the better run get remember fondly, washing away all the forgettable "superhero beats bad guys in badly drawn action scenes" issues to the sand of times.
    The main problem with modern big two comics is that long ongoing basically don't exist anymore outside the most popular characters. Like the 90's guardian of the galaxy comic that took place in the year 3000 ran for way longer than any modern GoG run despite the new version of the concept being orders of magnitudes more known.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If you want to drop some recent titles for me to read and talk about, go ahead.

      You're right that, in general, comics have been persistently crap throughout the decades, but there's really no excuse now that we have the tools. We've also seen some kind of balance before, like a handful of worthwhile titles in a sea of subpar ones.

      I never see actual critiques here, it’s just how everything is shit and the same wrong complaints from people who don’t seem to read comics.

      That said I am only reading a handful of ongoings so

      That's going to be my next thread. I'm going to read a bunch of recommended comics along with some I find that look at least somewhat interesting, and post about them while they're fresh on my mind.
      I repeat, feel free to drop some recent titles for me to potentially read and discuss.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I never see actual critiques here, it’s just how everything is shit and the same wrong complaints from people who don’t seem to read comics.

    That said I am only reading a handful of ongoings so

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ever since the new52 dropped, there's been a curse on DC. Some of the worst writing I've seen in years was coming specifically from the big 2. How do you allow you're IP to get this tarnished by hacks who don't give a frick about the characters they're writing about? Where are the hard mandates and character bibles? These capeshit comics are biggest forms of self sabotage I've ever seen. James Gunn is shit, but he was right when he said DC was in complete chaos as a brand.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's more harmful to read nothing but capeshit.

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    "Modern comics" = Big 2 floppies
    There's never been more accessible OGNs in a variety of genres but thats not what this conversation is about.

    It's about the hobby of being a Wednesday Warrior. And we're not even talking about the abundance of genre variety floppies you could get just from Dark Horse, Image, and some shuffle of Dynamite, Boom, IDW, and the Scout/Mad Cave/Black Mask/Vault/Valiant tier.

    This is specifically about being a Big 2 floppy hobbyist. Idk there's literally tens of thousands of Big 2 floppies in discount bins, how many new Big 2 floppies should be pumped out every week?
    How many volumes of trades for one single run do you need?
    How many characters need ongoing?

    It's always been a "10% quality, 90% forgettable" ratio, it's just that the output is smaller in the 2020s.
    And the art does look worse because of cheap rushed digital tools that can't replicate the craft of actual tacticle ink pen on paper.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Both capegays and anticapegays are equally bad. You have anti-capeshitters batschizos like LopiBats who shit up threads on purpose to troll and anti-Superman Synder shills like KazuyaProta (admitted to pissing Supergays off to derail threads and promote Zack) who dedicate their lives to doing to doing this pathetic shit. Don’t forget the anons who post Manga’s better sales over and over again.

    And you have the procapeshitters who defend an industry with shady practices that promote hate sales by purposely ruining the characters for attention. They act like the comics are great and sales are amazing (more shills) when industry writers have admitted that sales are down. Then there’s the people who take canon of these characters so seriously to obnoxious degrees.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I get that you would like to see two dozen ongoing floppies from Marvel and an additional two dozen ongoing floppies from DC that feature the original characters as they were depicted in the 80s and 90s still preserved in amber as if Claremont/Wolfman/Dixon/Stern/DeFalco/Byrne/etc were still writing them in one long continuous arc

      I get that you want to spend your money on that specific scenario. Unfortunately it's just not going to happen. it's unrealistic and blinded by nostalgia. Complaining about it on the internet isn't going to change anything and constantly going "no everything is shit because I said so" is annoying.

      >You wish the consumer was different
      No I don't, I don't care what you want to spend your money on.

      But this time period you look back on fondly is gone and never coming back. And it wasn't some universally golden age for the craft of comics, it was just a personally nice time for you. You can be upset that it's gone but restoring the thing you want is so low on the priority list and drafting complaints about it isn't going to bring it back any quicker.

      Genuine question, why do you enter threads about topics you don’t want to discuss?

      "Modern comics" = Big 2 floppies
      There's never been more accessible OGNs in a variety of genres but thats not what this conversation is about.

      It's about the hobby of being a Wednesday Warrior. And we're not even talking about the abundance of genre variety floppies you could get just from Dark Horse, Image, and some shuffle of Dynamite, Boom, IDW, and the Scout/Mad Cave/Black Mask/Vault/Valiant tier.

      This is specifically about being a Big 2 floppy hobbyist. Idk there's literally tens of thousands of Big 2 floppies in discount bins, how many new Big 2 floppies should be pumped out every week?
      How many volumes of trades for one single run do you need?
      How many characters need ongoing?

      It's always been a "10% quality, 90% forgettable" ratio, it's just that the output is smaller in the 2020s.
      And the art does look worse because of cheap rushed digital tools that can't replicate the craft of actual tacticle ink pen on paper.

      Despite how well known capeshit character are, the comics themselves have always (or at least sice like the 70's) been a very niche market. The arrival of comic book shop sealing that fate.
      While the political pandering is annoying (I love Ewing and I think he's one of the best big two writter, but he really has an ability to make me roll my eyes with his unsubtle messaging) I wouldn't say they are significantly worst than they have always been. Most 60's, 70's, 80's 90's, 00', 10' comic sucked, only the better run get remember fondly, washing away all the forgettable "superhero beats bad guys in badly drawn action scenes" issues to the sand of times.
      The main problem with modern big two comics is that long ongoing basically don't exist anymore outside the most popular characters. Like the 90's guardian of the galaxy comic that took place in the year 3000 ran for way longer than any modern GoG run despite the new version of the concept being orders of magnitudes more known.

      You meanwhile just keep saying the same thing over and over. have a nice day.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Both capegays and anticapegays are equally bad
      You could easily avoid cape threads. Capegays, however, can’t see, to avoid shit stirring homosexuals who just enter cape threads to talk shit about capes and capegays.

      So no the two are not equal, not even close. But namegays and tripgays are always awful, that I agree on.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        LopiBats and KazuyaProta are the worst. LopiBats is just insane and shits up every thread with capeshit ramblings to the point of killing them, while the Kazuya goes as far as to make multiple accounts all over the internet making the same fricked up anti-Superman threads and spreading disinformation to promote Zack Snyder.

        People are so fricked in the head nowadays and it’s sad to watch.

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Agreed and I don't pretend that.

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This thread is reminding me we haven’t had a shelf thread in awhile

  33. 1 month ago
    LopiBats

    Reminder that both Gunn and Snyder are hacks.

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