>It's a fricking awful adaptation. >mcguffin is a sword that doesn't exist in the manga >did the same anime plot-hole with chirens brain that doesn't appear in the manga >those fricking stupid looking skin flaps on her shoulders. >her neck isnt supposed to have skin either. >makes her look like the borg queen. >chiren doesn't even exist in the manga >desty nova isn't a hunted criminal on earth anymore, he's in charge of stuff up on salem now? wtf? >scrap yard is just mexico now with ppl eating fresh fruit and chocolate bars. >gay PG adaption of notoriously hyper-violent and disgusting source material that's supposed to shock the reader.
etc etc etc
frick this movie.
Maybe it's not a masterpiece but to claim it has no depth is plain wrong.
The movie couldn't even get the most basic plot point of the manga right. The scrapyard dwellers have robot bodies and human brains while the people in the sky have human bodies but no human brain.
Rodruiguez made most of the people in the scrapyard human and put brains in the tipherians what a moron.
Gunnm is genuinely a comic masterpiece, the art, pacing, characters, action, sci-fi elements are all 4/5 or 5/5. Sure maybe it's not super deep but entertainment is also an art.
They dared to make a female protagonist with flaws at the peak of woke. That’s why critics hated it but audiences liked it. I don’t know how it fares as an adaptation, I just took it for what it was.
It has an MC who is cute and not a jaded b***h. It's not hard to make likable characters if that's the goal. People will forgive a lot if the characters aren't designed to be irritating.
The movie missed the point of the source material and what made it popular in the first place. In the manga the MC is a cute girl frankensteined together from a bunch of murdered prostitutes and she's living in the worst hell-hole on planet earth.
The movie is milquetoast trash and the juxtaposition of a cute girl against horrifying circumstances is lost. Instead the MC gets a body that was lovingly made for Idos daughter. D'aww isn't that nice. How about some heckin' wholesome mexcian street markets and omg so delicious food. Then we'll check in on some kiddos playing street sports. Wow the scrap yard doesn't look that bad. Rosa was a mistake she's a mid-30's woman trying to act like a child and the result is even more fake than the cgi. Just get a real teenager.
It was popular on Cinemaphile because anons wanted to frick her. Everyone else forgot this movie existed. I do hope they make a sequel though because Jashugan and the introduction to Nova would make a great movie.
>I do hope they make a sequel though because Jashugan and the introduction to Nova would make a great movie.
You know they'd make an even bigger mess of it than the shit they've already ruined.
They crammed too much of the manga into the first movie while also for some reason prioritizing adapting the OVA and turning it into a more traditional pg-13 blockbuster. The motorball and berserker Zapan arc is already the perfect length for a movie and it's already basically pg-13, I think there's a stronger chance it could be good. Yes I know I'm coping I just really want a faithful adaptation of the peak of the manga
Maybe this is a hot take but overall IMO motorball is a pretty minor part of the story and one that I don't think translated very well to film, and choosing to focus on it was to the adaptation's detriment.
The Hunter Warrior + Hugo stuff and the Barjack stuff are both a lot more compelling from a storytelling perspective than motorball was. Motorball was cool worldbuilding but it basically amounts to a fluff arc and the movie IMO basically proved it's not that interesting to look at.
Kishiro has said that he wants motorball made into a movie with or without alita. He likes motorball so much he made that spinoff manga and the cgi movie clip that comes with one of the manga sets.
Maybe it's not a coincidence that the first movie is so motorball heavy when it shouldn't even be there.
I agree the motorball arc is one of the weakest. I signed on for a heroine in a skin tight body suit and motorball took that from me.
See I like motorball as worldbuilding, and one of the manga's biggest strengths is the depth of its worldbuilding, but it just doesn't translate off-page. It's just not that interesting to look at.
Ashen Victor is great too, but again it's just more worldbuilding. It's also less about motorball than it is a noir story about corruption and coverup within the world of motorball.
Kishiro pretty clearly loves motorball and thinks he's really onto something there, but I don't agree. It's just interesting fluff. It's a bloodsport where the combatants also turn themselves into racecars, and that's really cool, but it just doesn't translate to live action. At best it looks like cartoon characters playing a combination of roller derby and basketball rather than a high-octane bloodsport.
It's not that I don't like joshugan, anon. It's just that as an arc the entire motorball bit is a lot less interesting than what comes before (the introduction to the absolute shithole world, the relationship between tiphares and the scapyard etc) and what comes after (this massive civil war/rebellion of the outside world against tiphares and the sceapyard, a deeper exploration of how that greater world functions etc).
The movie opting to put such an emphasis on one of the least interesting aspects of the overall story is baffling.
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Jashugan is what makes the motorball arc interesting. His story is so well written and as a character is probably the best in the whole series. He provides a perfect foil to Alita in that he's crafty and skilled, putting his whole life into motorball. It's also important as a lead in to Nova's entrance. You need that smaller scale sports arc so that when shit suddenly hits the fan it hits harder.
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>He provides a perfect foil to Alita in that he's crafty and skilled,
He's only so strong because desty nova tinkered with his brain and gave him superhuman reflexes. Alitas coach tried to match him with extreme performance enhancing drugs abuse and couldn't even get close.
I thought he could have been written a little better, his sister is legitimately moronic, and his lifeline but jashugan lets her run around doing whatever without bodyguards or anything
I'm not saying it was good. I was describing why it was popular. It's more an indictment of the state of contemporary character writing than it's an indication of the movie's quality.
I loved that manga, and I don't remember a fricking thing from that movie. Why couldn't Rodriguez just do shot for shot recreation like he did with Sin City?
I loved both. Rosa played her with a great attitude. She really felt like a person experiencing the world for the first time and quickly. The film is gorgeous and it's own thing in comparison to the manga and I'm cool with that. I can't wait for the sequels. Couldn't believe they just casually dropped that they're working on more.
It was popular on Cinemaphile because anons wanted to frick her. Everyone else forgot this movie existed. I do hope they make a sequel though because Jashugan and the introduction to Nova would make a great movie.
I could care less what some sweaty overweight autist thinks about how well the source material was adapted; it was fun, it was entertaining, and that's all I care about.
>culture war morons who think watching a bad movie somehow spites Disney's bad movies. >support a movie directed by and starring beaners who support illegal immigration.
I loved it relative to other hollywood movies, cute girl with great action is extremely rare. EXTREMELY rare.
I read the manga 10 years ago, so I can't remember but the movie is probably not the best adaptation, however westerners never adapt anything accurately. It's silly to critique this movie like that, your standards are too high. You can't compare hollywood to Japan which always adapts things very accurately.
Midwits and teenagers. It's a fricking awful adaptation.
>It's a fricking awful adaptation.
>mcguffin is a sword that doesn't exist in the manga
>did the same anime plot-hole with chirens brain that doesn't appear in the manga
>those fricking stupid looking skin flaps on her shoulders.
>her neck isnt supposed to have skin either.
>makes her look like the borg queen.
>chiren doesn't even exist in the manga
>desty nova isn't a hunted criminal on earth anymore, he's in charge of stuff up on salem now? wtf?
>scrap yard is just mexico now with ppl eating fresh fruit and chocolate bars.
>gay PG adaption of notoriously hyper-violent and disgusting source material that's supposed to shock the reader.
etc etc etc
frick this movie.
It's not like the source material is a masterpiece with any level of depth. It's just cheesy cyberpunk fun.
Maybe it's not a masterpiece but to claim it has no depth is plain wrong.
The movie couldn't even get the most basic plot point of the manga right. The scrapyard dwellers have robot bodies and human brains while the people in the sky have human bodies but no human brain.
Rodruiguez made most of the people in the scrapyard human and put brains in the tipherians what a moron.
Gunnm is genuinely a comic masterpiece, the art, pacing, characters, action, sci-fi elements are all 4/5 or 5/5. Sure maybe it's not super deep but entertainment is also an art.
It's better than the mediocre manga
Because you have shit taste
It wasn't. It's no fricking Robocop, culturally.
It did meh at the boxoffice too, definition of mid.
It ended up being the antithesis of Captain Marvel that was released around the same time in 2019.
They dared to make a female protagonist with flaws at the peak of woke. That’s why critics hated it but audiences liked it. I don’t know how it fares as an adaptation, I just took it for what it was.
It has an MC who is cute and not a jaded b***h. It's not hard to make likable characters if that's the goal. People will forgive a lot if the characters aren't designed to be irritating.
The movie missed the point of the source material and what made it popular in the first place. In the manga the MC is a cute girl frankensteined together from a bunch of murdered prostitutes and she's living in the worst hell-hole on planet earth.
The movie is milquetoast trash and the juxtaposition of a cute girl against horrifying circumstances is lost. Instead the MC gets a body that was lovingly made for Idos daughter. D'aww isn't that nice. How about some heckin' wholesome mexcian street markets and omg so delicious food. Then we'll check in on some kiddos playing street sports. Wow the scrap yard doesn't look that bad. Rosa was a mistake she's a mid-30's woman trying to act like a child and the result is even more fake than the cgi. Just get a real teenager.
>I do hope they make a sequel though because Jashugan and the introduction to Nova would make a great movie.
You know they'd make an even bigger mess of it than the shit they've already ruined.
They crammed too much of the manga into the first movie while also for some reason prioritizing adapting the OVA and turning it into a more traditional pg-13 blockbuster. The motorball and berserker Zapan arc is already the perfect length for a movie and it's already basically pg-13, I think there's a stronger chance it could be good.
Yes I know I'm coping I just really want a faithful adaptation of the peak of the manga
>The motorball and berserker Zapan arc
>the peak of the manga
>No skin-tight bodysuit in either arc.
Anon, no.
Checked for hard rosa-mogging
Maybe this is a hot take but overall IMO motorball is a pretty minor part of the story and one that I don't think translated very well to film, and choosing to focus on it was to the adaptation's detriment.
The Hunter Warrior + Hugo stuff and the Barjack stuff are both a lot more compelling from a storytelling perspective than motorball was. Motorball was cool worldbuilding but it basically amounts to a fluff arc and the movie IMO basically proved it's not that interesting to look at.
Kishiro has said that he wants motorball made into a movie with or without alita. He likes motorball so much he made that spinoff manga and the cgi movie clip that comes with one of the manga sets.
Maybe it's not a coincidence that the first movie is so motorball heavy when it shouldn't even be there.
I agree the motorball arc is one of the weakest. I signed on for a heroine in a skin tight body suit and motorball took that from me.
See I like motorball as worldbuilding, and one of the manga's biggest strengths is the depth of its worldbuilding, but it just doesn't translate off-page. It's just not that interesting to look at.
Ashen Victor is great too, but again it's just more worldbuilding. It's also less about motorball than it is a noir story about corruption and coverup within the world of motorball.
Kishiro pretty clearly loves motorball and thinks he's really onto something there, but I don't agree. It's just interesting fluff. It's a bloodsport where the combatants also turn themselves into racecars, and that's really cool, but it just doesn't translate to live action. At best it looks like cartoon characters playing a combination of roller derby and basketball rather than a high-octane bloodsport.
>not enjoying chadsugan
kind of gay tbqh anon
It's not that I don't like joshugan, anon. It's just that as an arc the entire motorball bit is a lot less interesting than what comes before (the introduction to the absolute shithole world, the relationship between tiphares and the scapyard etc) and what comes after (this massive civil war/rebellion of the outside world against tiphares and the sceapyard, a deeper exploration of how that greater world functions etc).
The movie opting to put such an emphasis on one of the least interesting aspects of the overall story is baffling.
Jashugan is what makes the motorball arc interesting. His story is so well written and as a character is probably the best in the whole series. He provides a perfect foil to Alita in that he's crafty and skilled, putting his whole life into motorball. It's also important as a lead in to Nova's entrance. You need that smaller scale sports arc so that when shit suddenly hits the fan it hits harder.
>He provides a perfect foil to Alita in that he's crafty and skilled,
He's only so strong because desty nova tinkered with his brain and gave him superhuman reflexes. Alitas coach tried to match him with extreme performance enhancing drugs abuse and couldn't even get close.
I thought he could have been written a little better, his sister is legitimately moronic, and his lifeline but jashugan lets her run around doing whatever without bodyguards or anything
I'm not saying it was good. I was describing why it was popular. It's more an indictment of the state of contemporary character writing than it's an indication of the movie's quality.
I loved that manga, and I don't remember a fricking thing from that movie. Why couldn't Rodriguez just do shot for shot recreation like he did with Sin City?
I loved both. Rosa played her with a great attitude. She really felt like a person experiencing the world for the first time and quickly. The film is gorgeous and it's own thing in comparison to the manga and I'm cool with that. I can't wait for the sequels. Couldn't believe they just casually dropped that they're working on more.
was a chill fun movie, not everything has to be the greatest movie of all time
It was popular on Cinemaphile because anons wanted to frick her. Everyone else forgot this movie existed. I do hope they make a sequel though because Jashugan and the introduction to Nova would make a great movie.
more interesting than anything that has come out of Hollywood for awhile.
I could care less what some sweaty overweight autist thinks about how well the source material was adapted; it was fun, it was entertaining, and that's all I care about.
>Why was it so popular?
shiny metal ass
Terminally online culture war morons who think watching a bad movie somehow spites Disney's bad movies.
>culture war morons who think watching a bad movie somehow spites Disney's bad movies.
>support a movie directed by and starring beaners who support illegal immigration.
morons are famously bad at logic.
>Why was it so popular?
It wasn't.
The GamerGate subreddit says otherwise.
It was the best selling movie on various online distributors for months, anon, beating out other blockbuster releases.
I dunno, knowing this nasty 38 year old goblin is inside her trying to act young and cute ruins it for me
I liked it and i dont wanna frick the robot
i prefer the asian version
I thought she was ugly. Nier Automata's 2B really set the standard on how an android should look like
release the sequel already
Diddley is too busy throwing money at cameron to make more blue alien movies.
why is pregnant Alita so kino?
>I thought it was pretty meh.
>Why was it so popular?
Your post was pretty meh.
On the other hand, the movie was good. Gimme another.
Uhhh sexy cute robot
I loved it relative to other hollywood movies, cute girl with great action is extremely rare. EXTREMELY rare.
I read the manga 10 years ago, so I can't remember but the movie is probably not the best adaptation, however westerners never adapt anything accurately. It's silly to critique this movie like that, your standards are too high. You can't compare hollywood to Japan which always adapts things very accurately.
The movie should just have been robocop combined with jackie chan fight choreography and cute girls
because Cinemaphile is full of animetrash coombrains
super shitty kids movie