I thought 'Smiling Friends' was philosophically a neopuritan show, but this video claims it's actually philosophically an absurdist show. Which interpretation is correct?
I thought 'Smiling Friends' was philosophically a neopuritan show, but this video claims it's actually philosophically an absurdist sho...
Who cares, either laugh at the show or don't watch it homosexual.
But the show is not solely aimed at generating laughter; the creator is personally attempting to share his ideology and tell you how to live your life.
He literally just said that that's not the case
Two possibilities
1) He is lying because he doesn't want to cause trouble
2) He is bad at self-reflection and doesn't see that he is doing it.
homosexual.
Even if this is true, what the frick is wrong with self improvement?
>tell you how to live your life.
this was the agenda i got from the show. not that im complaining, SF motivated me to go back to church every sunday and make my family happy so we're better now
Literally every episode is absurdism. How do you not see the absurdity in Mr. Frog accidentally slicing someone's hands off with a novelty check, Salty's murder plot tape, Charlie's Enchanted Forest experience, or Shrimp/Shrimpina as absurd?
Ironic that Charlie was right in that Shrimp needed to move on, but helping Shrimp by working out and changing his image was never affirmed to be the path to success, Shrimp so happened to come across the coffee shop girl that Pim brought and was actually rewarded for being himself rsther than taking to the gym for self improvement.
It'd be more accurate to say the show has Existentialist themes, the common reoccurring theme of people finding their own meaning in life despite the absurdist nature of the universe around them being probably the most obvious manifestation of said themes. It's very specifically an answer to nihilism, even mocking what the show creators perceive as "commodified nihilism" which is deceptive in its nature and only pushes nihilistic ideas to further its own agendas.
And its my choice to listen to him. Some people might just watch TV shows not for some bright philosophical debate, but to watch our funny favorites dance around and shit. I think you forgot how to enjoy things
You are projecting too hard.
We all share the same fate, so why not laugh a bit together?
I vaguely recall Zach saying in a podcast that the show doesn't actually have a message and it's just about whatever funny idea they have, and if people manage to find meaning in it it's basically a rorschach test
>Vaping is bad
>Porn is bad
>Dopamine is bad
brainlet take.
Porn is bad for your brain.
Porn is like anything in that too much of it IS bad.
Alcohol occasionally is fine, but drinking it daily is obviously bad for you. Same with fast food.
>the show doesn't actually have a message and it's just about whatever funny idea they have
Sounds familiar
Death of the author
So fricking true.
You should have a nice day NOW
>t. frowning friends
I'll never forget seeing you piss yourself in front of everyone hahahaha
You've never had a bliblie infestation and it shows.
Wait a second, you're a bliblie, aren't you? Not only is frowning friends posting ITT but bliblies too.
Tell me the deep message of the episode where they solve a murder in a burger joint.
it's that sometimes, things fall through, and you just have to accept that. could you imagine if they actually got Chris Chan to voice the grease puddle?
>spoiler
no fricking way
>neopuritan show
Cinemaphile broke you
Whilst I do think that the world inhabited by The Smiling Friends is indeed an absurd and chaotic one, I don't think you could use it as a case for the philosophy of absurdism on account of the fact that it is a cartoon show for 20-something stoners.
Neo-puritanism doesn't even sound like a real thing
>Neo-puritanism doesn't even sound like a real thing
That's because it isn't. It's the invention of an autistic nihilist who couldn't take a joke at his expense. If he actually adhered to his professed beliefs, it wouldn't have bothered him. But because he's autistic, he has to take it extremely personal & make it everyone else's problem too.
I don't understand the concept of making a video essay just to gush about how much you like something. Smiling Friends fans have churned out a lot of these and it's weird.
The Frowning Friends episode is a literal triumph of absurdism over nihilism, do you people even watch the show?
Grim wasn't even really a nihilist, he was using nihilism to trick people into exterminating the Puerto Ricans did you watch the episode?
It was saying that people who espouse nihilistic values are hyoocritical frauds. If they really believed in that they would kill themselves. If nothing mattered they wouldnt be so hellbent on carrying out an ethnic cleansing. The Renaissance Men killing them the moment this facade is shattered is the finishing touch.
if anything, the renaissance men killing them proved that nothing matters. Regardless of what happened the renaissance men were coming to town.
>if anything, the renaissance men killing them proved that nothing matters.
If you actually thought that you would have a nice day.
Anon, Death comes regardless so why should i put in the effort to end myself?
Because you are a homosexual
It's quite a leap from "live has no purpose" to "living one more day is torture and death is preferable"
I'd say it actually emphasizes how the Frowning Friends wasted their lives being nihilistic
Even if death could get you any moment, you shouldn't waste what you have being a defeatist good-for-nothing
Those weren't Renaissance Men though
and that's bad because?
Its ridiculous how overhyped this show is, on the other hand it's so entertaining that I watch it over and over. But I don't claim it's some deep, philosophical shit. Hell, some jokes aren't even new.
If you want to be absurdist you have to do some absurd things
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the only messages I could come up with are s2 ep1 saying "big game industry execs bad" which everyone agrees with. otherwise if anyone construes this show as anything but random rambling and noises that zach and cusack find funny then you are too far gone.
>Completely ignores the concept behind "Making people smile (no matter what)"
>Didn't watch the first episode where a suicidal person finds meaning in life and becomes incredibly successful
>His meaning in life is shooting le purple creatures
>Also ignores the optimist turns into a hollow husk at the end of the episode.
Oh so you're a zoomer who has never had to deal with termites, or mice, or roaches, etc. You'll grow up one day
termites mice and roaches aren't malicious little creatures that hate you and want to crucify you dude.
Go live with them you spoiled child.
Just saying the joke is that his purpose in life is to shoot and kill funny purple things when nothing else gave him purpose, which is more of the joke than anything else.
Pim is in like 9 episodes after this helping people. By your own logic Charlie should have given up and stayed in hell.
I'm more countering the fact that the show is "toxic positivity" by pointing out that even our main characters can feel bummed out and played for laughs.
>toxic positivity
I am so sick of morons on the internet inventing new words
Anyone who thinks there’s an agenda behind this show is the joke.
>one episode has the moral that fast food should be unhealthy and greasy
>another one says Uber eats is bad for you mentally
I don’t think the show ever mentioned porn a single time. I don’t know why that’s a talking point.
zach makes fun of gooners on oneyplays and leftist twitter people are often degenerate gooners who got offended at that.
Zach has been friends with a degenerate gooner for nearly his entire online career, and shadman too, clearly he doesn't care that much outside of it obviously not being a good way to spend all of your time.
Oneyplays: The Animated Series
This, I'm shocked people are still overthinking it this much.
So we have Smiling Friend schizo like how Cinemaphile has FMA schizo...damn.
>"oo oo ooo" *rolls eyes*
Will the neopuritan guy be reference in the show?
i think he was refrence in oneyplays
link?
what? neither, they just wanna make you smile.
"Yeah man, seems like you're stuck in a loop of short term dopamine rushes, don't get me started on the porn addiction that's the worst one"
Yeah, I'm thinking hes based. I knew after this scene Charlie was my favorite
me on the right
The correct interpretation is that you are a Black person homosexual and no one will more you when your crippling chicken nuggie addiction finally does you in.
Philosophers are gays. Those tards can't even agree if reality exists.
it’s christcuck crap which is why it’s artificially shilled by /misc/ and nobody else
i dont fricking get the meme about this being conservative shit
Its just a silly cartoon, but there's one porn addict autist who felt personally attacked during the satan scene so he keeps making anti smiling friends threads calling it neopuritan, etc
shut the frick up you annoying c**t jesus fricking christ stop making these gay threads u fricking loser
if it doesn't have a message then why does smiling friends make me feel blackpilled by the end of every episode? rick and morty wasn't half as doomerpilled because the narrative turned to shitting on rick and largely blaming him for how shit things turn out
personally I dont watch cartoons because im clearpilled and photonmaxxing
It's an absurd show. No point in adding the "-ism" aside from being pretentious.
The latter, the Neopuritan homosexuals will cling onto anything to make them not feel so cripplingly alone
Who ever thought it was neo puritan was a fricking moron.
It's absurdity for the sake of absurdity.
You wanna know why it does so well, because it contrasted with the other adult animated shows which were all about things suck ass.
You can make a show about people trying to make someone happy and make it all go wrong only for things to work out.
Be happy doesn't mean things get better, it is just another way of finding humor in things.
It's pretty sad people cant deal with this show existing because they are just whiny b***hes all the time.
It isn't absurdist or dealing with absurdity, though. In fact, it's almost anti-absurdism or post-absurdism, where you have irrational characters or concepts but they are in a completely logical and mundane setting. Like take the main cast and the typical plot. You have four non-human characters, one of which isn't even capable of normal speech, and they all work for a company whose job couldn't possibly be profitable and has no quantifiable goal. They "make people smile", a mixture between the Big Brother program, handymen, and self-help gurus. Their clients are not just losers, but anthromorphic frogs and Satan himself. In an absurdist show, the company would be whimsical and the boss some sort of Willy Wonka like the Warden from Superjail, and the plots would be fantastic and wouldn't fully make sense. Instead, the anthromorphic frog plot resolves itself with the realization that the frog can do immoral things but only in a socially approved context; while Satan quits his internet/gaming addiction by becoming so pissed off he tortures a main character. All of these are biting critiques you'd find more in South Park than Superjail. You can really see where the series' tone is during the workplace scenes, where it is played completely straight and characters just hang out in the break room doing mundane things. Characters are weird, but they live in a sane world only insane in the ways our own world is.
What I'm trying to say is that Smiling Friends is more a series of skits with a workplace comedy premise. People are trying to assign vast ideological terms for something that is no more complicated in its intentions than 90's era Simpsons.
>if you're into literal scat maybe you should try not jerking off for a month
>neopuritan
Very funny
Scat's cool though
It's absurdist humor, like another guy said Zach makes it about what he finds funny, the problem is his reactionary views drip through, and although most of Twitter is moronic, the few morons here on Cinemaphilemblr with 20 iq points more that get mad at shit they see because of politics as if they're jannies or whatever point to the screen and go
>THAT'S A RIGHT WING IDEA!!! ZACH YOU FRICKING NEOPURITAN!!!
So it's both.
Smiling friends is pretty apolitical, at least in regards to the current left/reight ameripol window. However, there are reccuring themes and messages in the show baked into its premise and character dynamics. Making a piece of art always reflects the aims, desires and interests of the creator, even if the aim is to make something completely neutral(which Smiling Friends is not, even if the bias isn't political).
>Sitcom cartoon show
>deep
???
Is this a very dedicated troll or a genuine mentally ill schizo? There's no way someone got THAT butthurt over being told porn addiction isn't good, right?
>Number 15
>Neopuritan anon
>The last thing you want in your comfy Smiling Friends thread is some deranged porn-addict's salad-filled diatribes
>But as it turns out, that might be what you GAET!
>admittedly, he was spamming it every time his thread died
>but that makes it even wORse
Saying you shouldn't avoid your problems by over-indulging in short term pleasures isn't being a neo-puritan anon.
You're saying this on a board dedicated to cartoons mostly for babies. It will fall on deaf ears.
Good point
>this thread
You cant step out of line like that. Society can create its own double standards out the ass, but most of them are at least protected practices, the moment you engage in it in a different you get punished.
Also it very well could be political ifbyou wish to discuss the nature of workplace forgiveness, how easy it is to get in trouble like that, or if the man's career is ruined publicly and will be given a sexual predetor presence
t. homosexual
Comedy is essentially absurdism. It is to laugh.
Was the Smormu electoral collrge vote a Donald Trump joke? Even though they seemed to listen to popular votes of YES over the electoral results of NO?
Smormu's wearing the "I'm with her" shirt, it has to be.
>Zach: I'm with her... end of story
It’s a Clinton thing
Yes, these neopuritan chuds think that the election is rigged. I can't wait to be proven right when the season 2 pro trump episode happen. I'm tired of being gaslighted by people here.
Mr Frog is basically Trump
Aaaaand that's a problem
Aaaaand thats bad
You realize Zach is a leftist, right?
When did he say that?
He was a Berniebro like all the other guys on Sleepycast, but he doesn't wear it on his sleeve.
Literally any time there's a political discussion.
Most people are just default democrats because they don't want to get bullied. Calling him a leftist implies he wants to abort fetuses and take kids to gay strip clubs.
Progressives dont want people to get into self improvement, most leftists dont subscribe to that lunacy
You it's a political spectrum and not a political binary, right?
Unlike gender there's more than two possible political affiliations a person can have.
I thought it's a joke about democracy in general
Genuinely how the frick do you interpret it as neo-puritan? """"people"""" (OP) try too hard to act moronic for attention nowadays.
This is the last show to need a video essay analysis.
Literally nothing needs a homosexual blathering about nothing for 40+ minute
How reductionist
this website is dead for real now
OP is probably samegayging lmao
Corpos won. They snuffed us contrarians from speaking back about their project succesfully.
yeah, i think I'm finally free to leave.
good luck mr anonymous
I just wanted my comfy Smiling Friends threaaaaaaaaaaaaad!
doesn't it get boring to make bait posts
It's not bait
>neopuritan show
there's only two lines people who make this argument focus on, neither which represent the philosophy or ideology of the show.
Alan isn't funny. I said it.
i hate to say it, but the neopuritan schizo does have a point. it is weird that of all the possible things wrong a person could do to cause suffering in the world, like joining the military, being a politician, a cop, a CEO, banker, beating your wife, voting for israel, etc, etc, why would jerking off be your worst sin to commit?
i don't think most normal people make masturbation the cornerstone of their morality so it does make people who do kind of sus ngl
It's kinda annoying that now, if Smiling Friends ever does do something worth critisizing, this butthole has convinced the world that all the complaints are from a schizo.
nah, only if they're specific about the neopuritan shit
Masturbation hasn't come up in smiling friends even once and half of this thread is "ZACH HATES GOONERS"
Shut the frick up you deranged spergs, it's not part of the show
Even if it were, is spamming Cinemaphile about "puritanism" every day a reasonable response to some "haha loser jacks off too much" joke
What about that time Charlie's grandma jerk offd a lollipop in her mouth
Why are you frickers over-analyzing an adult swim show? It exists to be funny, that's it
its a portal into the mind or whatever