I thought the monarch of wakanda was decided through fights to the death
Why is she queen
I thought the monarch of wakanda was decided through fights to the death. Why is she queen
I thought the monarch of wakanda was decided through fights to the death
Why is she queen
Clearly, she beat everyone's ass.
That's why Daniel Kaluya's character isn't around anymore.
I bet she goes hard with the traditional Wakandan chainsaw
She's a Regent until the next ruler is chosen.
also wasn't she one of the royal guard
She's regent and as wife of one king and mother to another, she would have been the logical choice to serve in such a role
You can challenge physically any succeeding ruler. That's what killmonger did. She's former Dora I believe but she probably wasn't challenged out of respect both her husband and son are dead.
why would you respect someone that has done nothing just because her husband and son are dead?
I would understand if she was depicted as a good politician or ruler, but all we know about her is she was a caring mother and honestly kind of a shitty person stuck into "muh tradition" but when his son lost was eager to shit on tradition and run out of the country with the sacred flowers planning an outside the rules coup d'etar
Sure, in the end she "was right" because warmonger was the villain. But he could have been a legit candidate with good intentions
>but when his son lost was eager to shit on tradition and run out of the country with the sacred flowers planning an outside the rules coup d'etar
He did not yield or die
>if the ruling king runs away and hides he is still king because he didn’t yielld or die
Bravo wakanda
To be fair, he was in a near death coma, so he shoudlve lost. It's because of some loop hole of him not technically dying or yielding why the challenge was still open.
why his son die? wasn't the grape juice gave him like superpowers?
>My whole family is gone
>Didn't I gave up evertyhing
Lot of women in the world wouldn't have lost their families if they shared their medical tech
>Tony doesn't give up his Iron-Man Tech in IM2
BASED TONY!!!!!!!
>Wakanda doesn't share it's tech with the world
WHY IS WAKANDA SO EVIL!!!!!
Tell me how an Iron Man suit can cure cancer
he literally has nanotech shit in his suit. he got stabbed and received bullet wounds and nanotech magic cures him
The nanotech suit wasn't around when the US government demanded the armor, try again
Even by the time Tony had fully working Nanotech is was still kept for himself
>kept it to himself
Yes, kept it to himself, moron.
His black friend, his wife, and the child he was grooming don't count.
By that point Tony had already fought the government off, you're not exactly making the point you think you are
So?
It makes your claim moot moron.
not that anon, and i just realized he mentioned iron man 2, which is a moronic limit.
Extremis.
Leave and don't come back until you've actually read a comic book, you fricking casual.
Tony don’t make extremis in the movies, and a majority of the time it seemed to kill people by blowing them up
>Tony doesn’ give military tech to the government. Main reason is that no other governments have it either so there’s no reasonable threat
>wakanda spends thousands of years in isolation. Kicks back and relaxes while blacks sell each other into slavery. Hoard all the magic science their spade rock gave them
>neve shares medical tech
>talks about “opening up” wakanda
>only result we see from this is.. Tchalla wearing western brand shoes. And a McDonald’s in wakanda.
West has sent indescribable amounts of aid and medicine to Africa. Europeans invented penicillin and vaccines and shared them worldwide
Wakanda is just evil.
>West has sent indescribable amounts of aid and medicine to Africa.
After raping and pillaging it for it's resources
Can’t even tell what point you’re trying to make. Do you have one?
Yeah the evil colonialist leaving behind infrastructure and modern education were so evil
as someone who lives in a colonized country yeah we call that propaganda
Lemme guess?
Butthurt your country has gone to shit since Whitey left and you're people essentially destroyed what modern conveniences you had?
Technically impossible since "globalization" and modern trade exist. Corpos still abuse the environment and labor laws of course but mutts need their consumption.
>need
Anon.
90% of everything being made right now will be thrown into the garbage before it is ever used
Litterslly no one asked foe it to be made snd mo one us enriched by this.
It's to keep this entirely unsustainable model gojng.
The powers that be are so in love with this control system. that they are ow anning to kill off swaths of the humann population rather then end the thing that us needless destroying our environment and poisoning us all.
The Thanos thing is pre-emptive programming gor what wss already unfortunately happened.
>90% of everything being made right now will be thrown into the garbage before it is ever used
>Litterslly no one asked foe it to be made snd mo one us enriched by this.
sure thing consumer
This is verifiable fact.
Nearly every car made in the time this post has been up will never be bought.
They will go yo some grave yard
Don’t bother. People legit believe Europeans made Africa worse. Never mind that Africa was an insane amount of tribes constantly at war.happily selling off captured foes as slaves to buy guns to fight each other more
No, the real issue is those mean Europeans. How dare they impose civilisation on such enlightened savages
Which county wasn’t colonised?
most of mediterranean, the fertile crescent
using Cinemaphile history lessons can be detrimental
>most of mediterranean
>conquered by italians
>conquered by arabs
>conquered by turks
>conquered by germans
Yeah, you really studied story
>conquering == colonization
go back reading books and stop listening to Cinemaphile stories
>colonized by Phoenicians
>colonized by Greeks
>colonized by Romans
And that's before getting into French north Africa, or the whole post Ottoman mandate system people are still using to justify ethnic tensions in the middle east.
Yeah, do you know what colonization even means? Because conquering is different.
What the romans did in the med is an obvious colonization
>colonization is defined however I need it to be so I can play the victim card.
Frick off third worlder, don't you have a child to rape?
>however I need it to be
nah
yeah, but greeks didn't (in fact they were known for practically absorbing tribes) and especially not phoenicians. there's a reason why romans are noteworthy.
>but greeks didn't
They did, that's why you can find books about the subject of greek colonization, the colonial expansion spanned 2 fricking centuries.
>absorbing
Assimilation doesn't mean shit, fricking people into oblivion is just one way to colonize, your definition of colonization is clearly based on British and XIX imperial European powers. By your dumb standards, Spain didn't colonize anyone because they were fricking everybody
What? The assimilation isn't how Romans did it. Spartans literally killed most of the Athenian population for once. Romans meanwhile treated everyone as citizen, for better or worse
>your definition of colonization is clearly based on British and XIX imperial European powers
no fricking shit guess the root word of the term is
>no fricking shit guess the root word of the term is
Try Spain...
>The assimilation isn't how Romans did it
And they are irrelevant to this conversation, we are talking about the GREEK colonies, those colonies weren't in greece
...but you brought up an unrelated area while I am defining colonization. So you essentially posted a pointless segue.
>...but you brought up an unrelated area while I am defining colonization.
you dismissed greeks as colonizers because you said they "absorbed tribes", i told you that is a moronic take because that would mean spaniards are not colonizers, then you implied the root for colony comes from fricking english colonies, one of the dumbest things anyone can say about a latin word.
You misunderstood what absorbing means then, I guess that's my bad. That's not what colonization is which is why I disagreed.
Yeah I know you're a schizo forming shit in your brain.
>hat's not what colonization is
As long as the colony exist to expand the trade of the mainland, serves as a conscript farm, and has to pay to who installed the colony is colonization, this isn't up to debate, no historian will ever argue that Cumae or Smyrna weren't colonies.
Pretty sure nothing was left from the Macedonian campaigns and even Spartans.
You're the one arguing semantics
>By your dumb standards, Spain didn't colonize anyone because they were fricking everybody
We didn't, we conquered and assimilated a bunch of kingdoms such as Peru and New Spain into the web of territories which already included Castille, Aragon, Portugal (for a time), Navarre and Granada.
You are so dishonest, vox i presume. Just because you choose to call a territory a capitania or virreinato doesn't mean is not a colony.
Are you seriously trying to say conquering is OK, but colonizing isn't? And what do you think happens to a place that is conquered? The victors just frick off back home?
>putting words in my mouth
I literally just defined colonization and how it differs from conquering anon. And yes anon, while they leave soldiers for occupancy the generals and heads do, in fact, go back to their homes to bring the spoils. Even Romans have a more pristine version of it.
>no see I was just defining the word, not clearly implying that conquering is OK because at least they're not those evil colonizers
>he thinks roman and areb culture werent imposed through Europe
Ah, yes, you one of those that thinks white people are superior and cant be compared to "noble savages"
>guy who replies without reading the thread
Arab culture wasn't imposed as much as euros tried to impose it on others.
Arab made up a society where going on arab culture was the best deal compared to live as a poor man and didn't need much to, just paying your taxes and recognize them as better men.
Whites made up a society where you needed to hate yourself for not being white and the only way to escape was to segregate or to have white passing children (hoping no one found you procreating with a white or it's a death sentence).
That's why Sicily's internalized arab culture is better than bananamericans hating themselves for not being white enough
>Whites made up a society where you needed to hate yourself for not being white and the only way to escape was to segregate or to have white passing children (hoping no one found you procreating with a white or it's a death sentence
Replace White for Muslim and that sums up what being Christian was like in Muslim territory
Yeah but muslims wanted to you to be part of them and to have sons with them
Whites are all
>NUUU YOU'RE NOT WHITE AND CAN'T DATE WHITE PEOPLE
That's the reason israelites and blacks stopped trying to pass as whites as once and just go by being israelites and blacks
>People legit believe Europeans made Africa worse
But that is factually truth
>Never mind that Africa was an insane amount of tribes constantly at war.
Yes, now they are bigger countries in constant civil war that instead of spears use european weapons
>happily selling off captured foes as slaves to buy guns to fight each other more
Selling them to whom and buying guns from whom?
>How dare they impose civilisation on such enlightened savage
Civilization wasn't good for europeans and it certainly it wasn't good for Black folk, africans had no need for roads, they needed to stay closer to being fauna than half attempts to force their monkey brains to adapt to western concepts of development. Black folk are savages and belong to the jungle, the more primitive their society the happier they are, their damage output and war capacity needs to be as small as possible. Western chauvinists are moronic homosexuals that believe phones made the world a better place and giving Black folk ak47 and videogames is a good thing.
Not him but they were given railways, electrical grids, irrigation systems, and everything else and time and again they let it all go to smash. How much can the world possibly funnel into that money pit?
>Not him but they were given railways, electrical grids, irrigation systems
Those weren't gifts, were tools to profit from colonies, all those things disrupted their natural place in the world, Black folk are not compatible with technology.
The chinese had them too and used them agaisn´t the Europeans. Why didn´t you? It´s all so tiresome.
Im not african you moron. China was a civilized country for longer than most modern European nations, industrial infrastructure is compatible with a culture that had roads and aqueducts, it isn't for Black folk.
You can't betray someone who isn't your ally or your own, this is basic shit.
I dont think anyone here is moronic enough to disagree
>China was a civilized country for longer than most modern European nations
Hahahaha holy shit you can't be serious. The kingdom constantly conquered and raped was more civilized than Europe? b***h please China was and still is a slave state because it's a moronic hellhole where the people were bred to be docile for perpetual servitude. The fact you think China was in any capacity civilized is down right pathetic
You dont know what civilization means, you are an ignorant homosexual that didn't pay attention to history class and has been learning his history takes from infographics. Thinking "civilized" means not going to war just shows how stupid you are, confusing the "civilized" used in Informal English, with the actual meaning of civilized means you have no right to speak in a conversation about history. You are a massive moron.
it's funny too considering how the supposed "civilized" nations enjoy going to wars back then
Yeah, Europe was embroiled in the bloodiest wars for so long.
Calling someone a moron is very crass and proves you’re not a civilized person. Try to better yourself Anon.
>constantly getting conquered by a group of nomads to the north makes your nation civilized
Hahahahahahahahahahaaaaa
No you dumb dumb homosexual, civilization just means "A civilization is a complex human society that may have certain characteristics of cultural and technological development." No conversation can be held by morons seething because they don't know one of the most basic terms used when talking about history.
>t. ass mad chink
t. moron that just learned what he should have known since the 4th grade
That China is a third world hellhole pretending to be anything but?
They are, just like india, that doesn't mean they weren't civilizations. Do you morons really don't remember anything learning about what civilization means? Mesopotamia? The Fertile Crescent?
I remember Mesopotamia not getting conquered by nomads ever other century.
>I remember Mesopotamia not getting conquered by nomads ever other century.
Frick you ignorant homosexual, do you even know who where the amorites, the gutians? the hurrians? you don't know shit, you are somehow butthurt over the word civilization having a different meaning to what you thought and being applied to fricking china. All this becuase for some moronic reason you wanted to defend colonization in a thread about magical capeshit Black folk. This board is garbage because people like you are both stupid and arrogant enough to continue to pursue humiliation.
Wasting your time arguing with autistic chuds is also moronic
He clearly knows about china's nomad and pointed out invasions are unrelated to your status as a civilization. You sound desperate to deny the civilization status to places you don't like.
They made bishop older and america younger to keep them away from lesbian shipping.
>They made bishop older and america younger to keep them away from lesbian shipping.
...
LOOK AT HIM!!
LOOK AT HIM AND LAUGH
>He clearly knows about china's nomad and pointed out invasions are unrelated to your status as a civilization.
China was a civilization, it's just that the leaders were moronic and only rich men could be part of it while poors lived in slavery.
But that's the norm in every society
You remember incorrectly.
Frick you ignorant homosexual, do you even know who where the hans, the manchus? the qins? you don't know shit, you are somehow butthurt over the word civilization having a different meaning to what you thought and thinking it can't be applied to fricking china. All this becuase for some moronic reason you wanted to defend whitoids in a thread about magical capeshit Black folk. This board is garbage because people like you are both stupid and arrogant enough to continue to pursue humiliation.
Sure, but how is it our fault you betrayed each other and sold each other and when the time to fight came, you "somehow" lost?
>you betrayed each other
How did they betrayed each other? They had no alliances, they weren't the monolithic enemy you think they were, is like thinking the portuguese and the poles should be loyal to each other just because. Or that the Irish. This moronic take is what lead to African borders being based on resource splits between European powers instead of ethnic groups.
>How did they betrayed each other? They had no alliances
Oh the irony...
This is like saying a Frenchman striking down an Englishman is betrayal because their skin is the same tone.
You mean it's not the skin color that matters, it's the country or culture? Tell that to these fricks calling all white people "colonizers" and acting like all "BIPOC" are victims.
Coloniser detected
Chink detected
Why the frick are you forcing a strawman for something nobody here agrees with it or has said? That guy is a moron for saying they were betraying each other and if you are the same person you should feel bad for your stupidity instead of try to deflect it
money went to coups to destabilize. medicines used to sterilize and kill.
Whoa cool it with the antisemitic remarks anon.
Whoa! Cool it with the antisemitic remarks anon.
I said "medical tech" didn't talk about weapons
Iron-Man tech can be used beyond just weapons. We already see Rhody using it to walk normally
Also Tony literally invented clean energy yet he kept it for himself to power his own buildings and property
Isn’t an arc reactor in the wrong hands basically a nuke
same can be said for Vibranium
A weapon capable of turning a single person into a fricking walking tank isn't the same as literal cure for cancer, you stupid c**t.
Didn't happened in the movies.
>Didn't happened in the movies.
Neither did wakandas withholding the cure for cancer. That's a comic thing.
In the comics Doctor Strange also had the cure for cancer and could have recreated it but instead used it to cure Wong and dooming thousands of others
1. It wasn't just a cure for cancer, it was a cure for all diseases
2. He probably would have shared it if the assassin sent by Big Pharm didn't made him lose most of it
That's even worse. He could have cured ALL diseases and saved millions of lives but wasted it on Wong
fair enough but Tony is a single rich butthole and Wakanda is a whole nation of buttholes
Tony being one of the richest people in the world has more money and resources then some of the top nations on earth and could single handly make the world a better place. You can make the argument that the internal politics of wakanda make it harder but even then we see at the end of the first movie that T'challa starting the outreach program was a step in sharing that tech with the world which is more then Tony ever did with his shit
Literally no one liked IM2, though. And even if they did, Tony's tech is private property- you don't see the US hoarding nuclear reactors. Why do wokies keep going for this defense?
And Wakandas tech is Wakandas property
>Literally no one liked IM2
I liked it
>My whole family is gone
>Didn't I gave up evertyhing
What did she exactly gave up? I can understand the pain of losing the family, but the tone implies she lost them because of her actions towards a goal.
She spent the last movie sitting or moving from one chair to another
She sounds like she doesn't give a frick about Shuri.
implying marvel remembers how their previous movies worked they just write shit as they go along
>Let’s honor Tchalla’s legacy by closing our borders again
>”Only we can have Vibranium!!”
They didn’t think this script through did they?
Have they? It seems like opening up to the world has screwed them (the world is cracking down on Wakanda's technology and capabilities and another hidden super civilization is going to wage war on them)
Not the story.
But how yo push their messages yeah.
No men save for a soft big titied vegan gay mbaku.
All female soldiers
All of the dark skinned woman men are masculine dykey ball busters who seek to replacevthe obviously evil men
All female bald ugly warrior force. Spear chuckers+penis envy weapon
Ebul minority make villain. First ebul ghetto Black terrorist.
Now border hopping thieving MALE leader of brown skinned Latinos
Wakanda is litterally a nonfunctional matriarchy with an ornamental figurehead/soldier simp pussy male lead.
First tchala now mbaku
Wakanda is litterally going to be themiscera of the mcu
It is funny how wakanda went from pseudo sci-fi kingdom to basically just the Amazon. They are so up their ass about keeping the bald spear chuck women front and center that they ignore that portraying an advanced african civilization that still uses goddamn spears and use gladiatorial fights to decide their leaders is racist as hell
Entire movie is not only racist it's sexist and moronic.
It's anti black male and heteronormative feminine black woman.
I would have preferred a deathlock 2 before this bullshit.
I meant what I said.
Wakanda is black themiscira
If you change the sex of tchalla and the random African b***h he simped for then Black panther would have been a better wonder woman then WW.
Women are the true victims of war
The teaser seemed manipulative as frick. It felt like it was made in a laboratory to be as poignant and up its own ass as possible while constantly asking if it's being tasteful enough(yet used the dead man's twitter to promote the movie). I'm genuinely baffled why so many are eating that shit up.
At this point they should just go all the way and turn it into themiscira, they know they want to, they can even use some bullshit like vibranium can also make women reproduce aesexually and kick all the men out to detroit
Really fricked up things?
Bosman almost begged them to recast black panther.
Even his brother said they should and recasting BP has even trended on sicial media
This is the agenda poisoning the minds of black Americans.
Tchala was almost irrelevant I'm the first and now they are using his death to remove BP and replace him with his annoying ass less competent sister. The sister who was given panthers intellect cause Black person men cant be smart, in lieu of an actual personality for his sister.
Did the same shit for the ancient one. He can't be a wise old Asian man from shangri-la or something. They used China as an excuse to put a woman in a traditionally male role. A dyke.
Think I'm kidding?
They shoe horned in America Chavez, who is to be honest defined by her being a giant mandating dyke, into the next one,
And the Chinese are not cool with the groomers.
Disney has a clear gay. feminist, anti male, anti femininity, and racist agenda going.
It's deeply evil and honestly everyone sees it and the absolute drop in fricks to give for all Disney scifantasy is obvious to everyone.
Disney is fricked. And when this not only bombs but outright infuriates the black, Mexican, male. and Norma female groups as well as turns off all children and teens. Its going to be a rap.
Heard about the guy whobgot an Oscar for homosexualry being hired to play THE BLADE and how he will step aside and let his bulldyke daughter who is clearly superior to him take over?
No I'm not making this up.
Must be exhausting constantly trying to be the victim
Must be tiring. Running around defending a multibilkiondollar company that has clearly negative motives for their media.
Massa is happy with your work though. So you get to sleep I. the house.
Nah but if I got my way people like you would be shot dead.
HouseBlack folk will kill to protect massa.
why are morons here equate africa = wakanda
even wakanda isolates itself from africa
>Why doesn't Doctor Strange and the sorcerers share there knowledge of magic to help people with incurable diseases and disablilties
>Why doesn't Hank Pym use his Pymtech with the world to help with medicine and other problems in the world
>Why doesn't stark use his Clean Energy to power the world and it's technology
>Why doesn't Thor introduce Asgardian tech/magic to earth since Asgard seems to be free of disease and hunger
>Why doesn't Spider-man share his webfluid formula with the world to help with construction and other things
>Why doesn't Captain Marvel and Star-lord go to earth with Alien tech and help Earth explore the cosmos?
Then again, we are not talking about tech that can be weaponized, by purely medical tech
Literally none of these examples are just "weapons". Your seriously telling me that Pymtech can't be used to help solve world hunger or study and cure diseases?
to be fair to pym, simply enlarging food may not actually make it more nutritious. But there's surely other stuff his tech could do. Nanobots, etc.
I mean, imagine being able to shrink and actually do microsurgery
Yeah probably but Pymtech is inconsistent as frick anyways
>But there's surely other stuff his tech could do.
If he can shrink a 10 story building and walk around with it like carry-on luggage, imagine what Pymtech can do for the transportation industry.
Because she's a black b***h born in the right entertainment era.
The first movie showed that only one clan challenged t'challa for the throne and that clan is pretty much his friend now. It's a safe bet that no one challenged her even though realistically, some other clan would be jumping at the opportunity to beat an old woman's ass to be king
Waiting to exhale with spears
She beat somebody's ass concave, next question.
b***h can't beat the gnats out of her ass.
She fought T'challa's corpse.
So take your bets, is t'challa going to die of an illness or will he get murdered. Story wise it'd build up a new villain like saying Doom killed BP and secretly started the war...but that goes against treating BP like a sacred cow so theyll likely stick to a mysterious illness
Woman are constantly fighting for the right to exist on equal terms in mans's world sweetie
No, it's passed by lineage. One can challenge the claim by combat, but I imagine this doesn't happen too often when the monarch is well-respected.
You guys are still watching these films?
Guys if you need a capeshit fix watch something else or play Mutants and Masterminds or Read a Comic Book not written by someone who hates you
Mutants and Masterminds is a dogshit superhero ttrpg.
If your going to act like you have taste and at least post actual good shit
Indeed, I’m an ICONS or MSH man myself.
She gave oral sex to everyone in her country