Oh no they just accuse anyone who doesn’t have their shitty taste of being too stupid to understand it. Despite most of the plot being our detectives figuring out the scheme that was explained to us in the first fricking episode
A consistent theme of pro-season 2 posts is that wax lyrically over how amazing and underrated the season 2 and how baffled they are by the mixed reception without ever actually fricking explaining why it's so good. They come off as elaborate shitposts. At most you'll see a noirgay say it's a great piece of noir but I'm not a noirgay, so I'd appreciate some elaboration
I think it's the same thing with people who think Quantum of Solace was good. You take a few scenes or characters that are cool in isolation and hyper-focus on that while ignoring it wasn't actually implemented well into a cohesive plot.
Basically it's people who just watch select scenes on youtube or something and think the whole thing must be that good.
there's some things i like about it, but tbh for me it was the weekly Cinemaphile threads and vinceposting that carried the season. i can't imagine enjoying it as much if i watched it now
There were always moronic s2 fans but Cinemaphile has such shit taste that a lot of anons now have sequel derangement syndrome. Night Country being complete ass makes these morons think s2 being less ass in comparison makes it good.
S2 is great television on a pure entertainment factor. I love it and regularly rewatch scenes. I don't think about le good writing or le logic, I just like watching it. The hardboiled actual detective kino was great. Enough with the supernatural gay shit. It's a detective show and only S2 acted like it.
Did you forget when he predicted his own death? There were supernatural elements in this as well, but anyway, yeah, this season was great, almost as good as 1, homosexuals got filtered, oh well, not debating anyone on this
S2 is great television on a pure entertainment factor. I love it and regularly rewatch scenes. I don't think about le good writing or le logic, I just like watching it. The hardboiled actual detective kino was great. Enough with the supernatural gay shit. It's a detective show and only S2 acted like it.
Notice how s2 defenders will exclusively talk about "the mood" because this thing doesn't hold up in any other regard.
The story is extremely straightforward: Local politician blackmailed the wrong elites, who are into creepy Eyes Wide Shut stuff. These elites also ruined/ended the lives of the main characters, all of whom were investigating the death of said politician. Turns out the politician was killed by the children of people he once wronged. Also everyone has kids.
>Corrupt politicians set up land deal involving criminals but everyone is screwing each other over >Same corrupt politicians also robbed a israeliteelry store as cops and stole some diamonds to start being corrupt politicians >The kids of everyone involved in these deals kill off the corrupt politicians, who are replaced by new corrupt politicians
And everything in between is ultimately irrelevant filler, or make about as much sense with or without context
it's not funny, but pathetically sad writing, pure gynocentric propaganda, like the screaming scene, or otherwise anti-white racist men-hating trash. women acting like man. frankly it's just utter trash.
People who like s2 pls tell me how you cope with: >too many pointless characters (specifically gay cop) >poorly choreographed gunfights where everyone has aimbot >incredibly lame sex/escort scene (I can't imagine how they made a setpiece mansion filled with hot chicks less kino than the one Daddario s1 scene in a dingy apartment)
Easy. >Gay cop
His entire storyline is him rejecting gayhood and embracing normality and fatherhood. It's based as frick. >Gunfights
Inconsequential. >Hookers
Go watch porn at this point.
It is but no one here actually has watched S2 (not like brain rot would allow them) so it goes over their heads that the gay cop is actually a redpilled character.
>too many pointless characters (specifically gay cop)
are you too dumb to follow multiple storylines? >poorly choreographed gunfights where everyone has aimbot
Why didn't Woodrugh 360 noscope the AK guy inside the methlab Saving Teague? >incredibly lame sex/escort scene (I can't imagine how they made a setpiece mansion filled with hot chicks less kino than the one Daddario s1 scene in a dingy apartment)
Bezzerides was getting intel on her missing girl, She wasn't there to frick the MC
Your complaints confirm to me that you are too stupid to enjoy a quality season
Pathetic.
DAILY REMINDER TO THE PLEBS >True Detective 2 > True Detective 1 >True Detective 3 Black person MC = Not canon >True Detective 4 Females MCs = Not canon
>>True Detective 3 Black person MC = Not canon
Wayne Hays wasn't even some woke frickery at work. Every time he gets quite uppity with Roland by insinuating he's a bad racist white man, Roland shoots him down quite handily and Hays come off as the butthole. Roland calling him an uppity, arrogant bastard was totally heard and the context of that outburst made it actually understandable how close he came to calling him a Black person.
Once again, you understand nothing, he complained about being racially discriminated against, there were constant references to race this and race that, his son blacked the other woke liberal nutjob, his wife was yet another insufferable wokie moron, and you think because a white detective called him “uppity” and didn’t even finish what he was saying was somehow the show being anti woke?
>he complained about being racially discriminated against
And made to look a chippy fool of by Roland. The scene is obviously played to make it look like Hays is being an buttholel to Roland. He otherwise brings up race several times to Roland and ends up getting rebuffed. It's his own chip-on-shoulder bullshit that causes him to be a snarky b***h to a man so patently not-racist like Roland. His wife was a literal 60's hippy, so yes she'd be a lefty c**t. His son's extra-marital affair wasn't portrayed in a positive light and frankly some depiction of a white and black person together isn't intrinsically woke but we are not hyper-sensitive to it in any and all forms because of the heavy handed agenda of the past 10 years where it is portrayed as a great thing, lionises the blacks, etc.
Back when he was a younger, angrier person, you fricking tool. Another time he asserts Roland was a second away from blasting those blacks at the trailer park vs. whites people before Roland tells him them being black and the times they were living being what they were (like 15 years post desegregation) actually made it less likely him to fire his gun. Scenes like that or that bar one between the two are clearly played with Roland coming across as earnest and being in the white vs. Hays projecting his own insecurities and anger onto a blameless white man
>a black guy in 1980 Arkansas could never have some legitimate greviances
Kek what world are you living on, unless you're trying to imply that not viewing them as intrinsic subhumans worth of death is itself wokery
Lmao go back to reddlt. sorry your favorite season sucks guys.
>Yeah so I know you’ve been trying to solve this case for thirty years so here goes… so basically the girl just ran away.. I KNOW! Ugh, I KNOW! But basically she just ran away is all… oh, and the boy accidentally hit his head…SORRY!…
>Lmao go back to reddlt. sorry your favorite season sucks guys.
You're clearly a moron, given how the shitty resolution is neither here nor there regarding you homosexual shrieking over muh wokery that's been so easily proven wrong. Now you got to so obviously pivot like the b***h you are
4 months ago
Anonymous
S3 still sucks, just more terrible HBO intervention forcing pizzaman to include blacks and callbacks to S1 to appease autustic braindead homosexuals like yourself
It deals with actual heavy themes true to life and the terminally online people here can't deal with actual reality being portrayed. They want exaggeration, caricature for their childish stunted minds. Sensationalism, big fricking breasts they can find in porn but in some show it's the greatest thing ever also they all think they're Rust.
Jesus fricking christ you people are delusional. Every single character was a caricature of a typical Noir character and you morons think that is true to life
If you want life to taste like rainbows then buy skittles, Ray. Me? I take so much sugar that I can't think straight. But it still tastes like shit. At least I've never had a cavity
It's worth a watch and I found it entertaining, but it's a fricking mess compared to Season 1. Very typical sophomore slump stuff, Pizzaman had years to work on the S1 script and a few months to bang out the sequel.
Taylor Kitsch is a fricking terrible actor and drags everything he's involved in down. Vince's performance is entertaining but it doesn't really "work" in any kind of serious way. Farrell is great obviously but has no chemistry with anyone else. McAdams is fine I guess. 4 leads was too much and really muddies up the story way too much, especially when the characters and their relationships to each other don't work.
The central mystery and plot is so ridiculously convoluted and then fairly lame and stupid once you understand the actual background events. Some people will call this a deliberate nod to noir films and it probably is, it just doesn't work as any kind of satisfying story. It might have been salvageable if the characters worked well enough to draw you in to them and their drama, but they don't.
These are fair criticisms, but season 2 just has such a RAW and UNVAXXED feeling that I can't help but enjoy it over all the other seasons. I prefer Velcoro to Rust and Marty too.
McAdams, and honestly most of the leads, acting was so bland I swear the director was fighting to keep them from doing anything interesting with their characters. People like to act like the plot is super complex, but really its just a fairly simple plot that cannibalizes itself with too many characters and inexplicable pacing.
>People like to act like the plot is super complex, but really its just a fairly simple plot that cannibalizes itself with too many characters and inexplicable pacing.
This, I swear the people who act like S2's plot was too complicated for dummies to understand and filtered people literally didn't understand it themselves. It's the epitome of that "dumbasses and smart people hate this but midwits love it" meme graph.
True dumbies and smart c**ts saw the first episode and were instantly dissapointed with that gay shit. Cinemaphile midwits having nothing better to do but consoom gaslighted themselves into liking s2 because of memes from the watch threads they spammed with other morons.
What gets me is the main plot is literally spelled out in the first episode, our detectives spend most of their time figuring out that main plot, and then the remaining murder mystery is explained in a super direct way. Everything in between is just bafflingly bad filler. And season 2 defenders take people simply not tolerating dog shit as proof the plot was too complex for most people
Who cares? S2 has too many characters. 4 main characters + backstory is too much for 8 episodes. Keep Vaughn and Farrell. Get rid of Rachel McAdams and the gay guy. Use the extra time to make the plot more coherent
People knew it was an anthology and were fine with that. They just hoped it would be as good each season, and it wasn’t even close. The mere existence of McAdams’ and the gay cop as main characters is a fundamental flaw with the story that brings it down in quality.
what's with the McAdams hate? I thought the wannabe tough chick cop with hippie dad thing was good, a character who does not let herself "be a woman" having to go through the creepy sex mansion was well done
>4 leads was too much
Would have worked nicely with Ray and Frank as the two leads and realising their individual investigations are one in the same in like episode 2's ending and then they work together. They'd take every single shady thing Marty and Rust did up to 11. Basically unbrindled mafia vigilantism.
>They say "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush", Ray... well I once gave Jodie Foster the stiff middle digit whilst sticking a pinky up her hairy fartbox. Caspere knew this.
I only ever watched the first season. Never bothered with the second until coincidentally I watched the first episode earlier today. It seemed shit. Most of it I had no idea what was going on. Who the characters were or what their motivations were. Its a mess. Dunno if i'll bother trying to watch the entire season and doubt ill try the third or fourth.
ok fine ill watch more. do i need to be drunk to enjoy it? colin farrell always annoys the shit out of me which is why i didnt watch it when it was being released.
Audiences rejected season 2 for being too different, so they returned to the well and aped season 1. The laziest play they could have possibly done. Marked the turning point of using the show to pander to plebs rather than creating visionary works of art.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Audiences rejected season 2 for being too different
No, they rejected it because it was bad. S3 was an appropriate course correction but Pizzaman unfortunately can't write a conclusion to save his career (literally).
4 months ago
Anonymous
Season 3 was dogshit except for Stephen Dorffs performance.
4 months ago
Anonymous
the partner dynamic between purple haze and roland was kino
4 months ago
Anonymous
Ali carried they were both great. You people try too hard to be contrarian.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>because it was bad
In your opinion. In my opinion it's one of the all time great seasons of television and anyone who doesn't respect it deserves to die.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>In your opinion.
In most people's opinion. >In my opinion it's one of the all time great seasons of television and anyone who doesn't respect it deserves to die.
You're entitled to have dumb takes.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Explain? I really really like aspects of s3 and thought it had a decent shot at matching s1 but missed the mark a bit and never feel compelled to rewatch it beyond episode 1 and the ending scene of episode 5 where Ali and Dorff had top tier acting. What makes it one of the greats to you?
4 months ago
Anonymous
>S3 was an appropriate course correction
It reduced the show to "content". The cowardice of season 3 killed any chance the show would ever have of making worthwhile art ever again.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>"content" >art
explain how these are objectively different other than whatever butthole thermometer you use to tell them apart personally
4 months ago
Anonymous
Art is the expression of creative individuals. Content is product to meet audience demand. TV shows are made for profit so there's going to be crossover but serving up a repeat of the popular season is the least creative thing they could have done. Just forgettable slop when we could have had a whole new direction again. Would have been better to have nothing at all.
4 months ago
Anonymous
They killed all the attention s1 received with s2. It should have been a single season thing and move on to different things
4 months ago
Anonymous
>and move on to different things
It did and you couldn't handle it.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I meant good
Nothing in season 1 comes close to the kino peaks of season 2. That counts for something even if there are greater flaws too.
Highlights of season 2 were the elvis dream and ray beating the asspen dad. That's it
4 months ago
Anonymous
I always had a solution. Basically the mystery was far too personal and devoid of something more sinister. You could have had the Hoyts run a child trafficking ring and Julie was intended merchandise before Hoyt's batshit daughter flipped out and they adopted her. The whole deal being that, as with Rust and Marty, Hays and Roland zero in on something that is a small piece of the puzzle. The lack of a far more sinister mystery/conspiracy jars too much with the actually eerie scenes season 3 did create. Anyhow, as Rust and Marty get their guy but not everybody, Hays and Roland get their girl without really overcoming the Hoyt organisation. Otherwise, it needed Saulnier to direct every single episode, more emphasis on Roland, and far less on Amelia. I still, for whatever reason, love that 30 second ending with Hays in Nam going into the jungle.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>audiences still can not wrap their heads around how an anthology series works >suits cave because all that matters is consoom worthy disposable media and not kino storytelling and character driven story using the detective premise as a backdrop. >In the writers’ room, I’d argued with Nic about motivation. Simply put, I don’t believe in it and he does. I don’t believe that a single event can explain the way a person behaves. But in Nic’s conception, every character is driven by a particular engine. Well, maybe this was why. Maybe Nic himself is driven by some early trauma. Though I never discovered its nature, it remains a blank spot in his story that might explain everything.
They told me it would cost me an arm and a leg if I got into this business. What they didn't know is that I'm a fricking lizard, Ray. And it's about time to get into a new terrarium
I saved a man from drowning once. Gave him the kiss of life and everything. And you know what he did, Ray? He thanked me. The butthole fricking thanked me.
>season 1
Reddit main character, generic side kick, couple of spooky scribbles and surface level book references >season 2
Kino characters, proper detective story, not pretending to be deep with the visual references
Watched this for the first time recently. Got to say that when they dumped in a female and a gay I was scared but the depiction of both of these demographics was thankfully highly redpilled.
season 2 was decent. there's lots of stuff to like but the central mystery feels like an uninteresting mountain to slog over to see more details of what is good which is death for a detective show. also like others have said 2/4 of the main characters are boring and it never hits the cohesion and fever pitch of season 1
Who cares? S2 has too many characters. 4 main characters + backstory is too much for 8 episodes. Keep Vaughn and Farrell. Get rid of Rachel McAdams and the gay guy. Use the extra time to make the plot more coherent
It was a badly written and poorly acted piece of shit no matter what you say. Just compare almost any shot between season one and two, and you will notice the season 2 shot is just visually dull. Compare the story pacing of each and you will find the same. Every single choice in season 2 was weaker, with the huge exception of season 2 having the best opening.
Finished watching it today. Ray and Frank were the best parts obviously, but female cop did a nice job. Liked the parts when she was trying to play tough but ended up mostly useless during the big Mexican firefight and the orgy mansion
no it’s not, but yeah, we’ll pretend the Woke-Black person detective beta test that was 3 was great, it wasn’t, only season 1 and 2 are great and worth wasting your time on
There are legitimate issues with the finale but come the frick on man, the performances are right on part with season 1. The late aging/memory loss gimmick actually adds a lot to the show.
>hays, when drunk, insinuates roland only got a promotion cause he is white >roland quickly shoots this bullshit down by telling him it's on him and how with AA he could have been the boss instead >hays has to mumble out an apology after this humbling
Literally a scene that takes a shit on the idea it's institutional racism causing all the woes and missed opportunities for black.
No point arguing with you morons, you can’t read between the lines, this is what they do now, they try to make you think something is anti-woke by including a little comment here or there but in actuality it’s all a ploy, for example, Black-Cop is asked if he was wrongfully discriminated against for his skin color, he says no (there’s the misdirection) then it’s later shown that he in fact believes he was during a scene from the past, thus proving the interviewer correct, im sorry all of these things go above your heads
4 months ago
Anonymous
Back when he was a younger, angrier person, you fricking tool. Another time he asserts Roland was a second away from blasting those blacks at the trailer park vs. whites people before Roland tells him them being black and the times they were living being what they were (like 15 years post desegregation) actually made it less likely him to fire his gun. Scenes like that or that bar one between the two are clearly played with Roland coming across as earnest and being in the white vs. Hays projecting his own insecurities and anger onto a blameless white man
4 months ago
Anonymous
>a black guy in 1980 Arkansas could never have some legitimate greviances
Kek what world are you living on, unless you're trying to imply that not viewing them as intrinsic subhumans worth of death is itself wokery
Anyone who didn't know it would be the wokest and the shittiest from the one sheet alone doesn't deserve to be on Cinemaphile. Anyone who didn't read the quotes from the writer/director and know doesn't deserve to ever watch another show.
Not him but I’d rather watch kino behind the scenes and making of documentaries like the “appendices” for the LOTR extended editions. Just watched them again this week for the first time in twenty years and forgot how good they are. Even the Hobbit ones are pure kino, much more entertaining than the actual movies.
First and all subsequent watches of season 1 were all 10/10
First watch of s2 was an 8.5/10, second watch was a 7.5/10, third and subsequent watched are all 10/10
I agree that rewatching season 2 when I could see all the hints towards the conspiracy made it infinitely better. Catching that alchy mayor being right about some of the investigation being some buttholes from the state DA/ governors office trying to get money from a Vincy was mind blowing
There are legitimate issues with the finale but come the frick on man, the performances are right on part with season 1. The late aging/memory loss gimmick actually adds a lot to the show.
Only the first 2-3 episodes were good. Season might as well have been written by JJ Abrams given the strong start but complete lack of payoff
I liked season 2, it had interesting characters and a cool setting. Vinci is like 19th century levels of political corruption and it's based on a real place.
dude...when he kicks he shit out of the bully's dad, it's pretty satisfying. enough to overlook what makes you cringe? maybe. maybe not. but that's a pretty good moment.
Not liking Season 2 is the ultimate filter. Im pretty sure that they made it clear that True Detective would always change its main character and setting. Sure its not Season 1 but it wasnt supposed to be
People went in thinking it was going to be part 2 of Season 1 with the same exact everything when it wasnt going to be at all.
>Sure its not Season 1 but it wasnt supposed to be >People went in thinking it was going to be part 2 of Season 1 with the same exact everything when it wasnt going to be at all.
And all of this would be fine if the season wasn't dogshit.
People knew it was an anthology and were fine with that. They just hoped it would be as good each season, and it wasn’t even close. The mere existence of McAdams’ and the gay cop as main characters is a fundamental flaw with the story that brings it down in quality.
Yeah it's almost good. There are some great characters and some good plot points but it's just kind of a mess with too many threads and there is basically no detective work.
because s2 is a midwit show
there's a reason you can always find the bully scene online sped up with chinese subtitles with a billion views, it's trying so hard to be cool
inb4 s2 fans become extremely butthurt and insecure and accuse everyone else of having bad taste for not liking a shitty show
>implying you still don't have bad taste
It's not that good but Frank posting is kino.
Oh no they just accuse anyone who doesn’t have their shitty taste of being too stupid to understand it. Despite most of the plot being our detectives figuring out the scheme that was explained to us in the first fricking episode
They really are whiny little homosexuals
A consistent theme of pro-season 2 posts is that wax lyrically over how amazing and underrated the season 2 and how baffled they are by the mixed reception without ever actually fricking explaining why it's so good. They come off as elaborate shitposts. At most you'll see a noirgay say it's a great piece of noir but I'm not a noirgay, so I'd appreciate some elaboration
I think it's the same thing with people who think Quantum of Solace was good. You take a few scenes or characters that are cool in isolation and hyper-focus on that while ignoring it wasn't actually implemented well into a cohesive plot.
Basically it's people who just watch select scenes on youtube or something and think the whole thing must be that good.
SE2 Chads living in your head rent free
How is it a 'shitty show'?
there's some things i like about it, but tbh for me it was the weekly Cinemaphile threads and vinceposting that carried the season. i can't imagine enjoying it as much if i watched it now
>They say early bird gets the worm. Ray.... I'm the one holding out the worm.
Today I said to my wife that everything feels like paper mache, Ray. What a thought, right? However, what I didn't tell her, that I'm into origami
>it's a dog eat dog world, Raymond. And I'm the fricking Chinaman.
Work smart, not hard, Ray. I learned this when I tried to make my wife pregnant and my penis wouldn't work
There were always moronic s2 fans but Cinemaphile has such shit taste that a lot of anons now have sequel derangement syndrome. Night Country being complete ass makes these morons think s2 being less ass in comparison makes it good.
S2 is great television on a pure entertainment factor. I love it and regularly rewatch scenes. I don't think about le good writing or le logic, I just like watching it. The hardboiled actual detective kino was great. Enough with the supernatural gay shit. It's a detective show and only S2 acted like it.
>I don't think about le good writing or le logic
oh we CAN tell
>Just turn your brain off, bro.
Did you forget when he predicted his own death? There were supernatural elements in this as well, but anyway, yeah, this season was great, almost as good as 1, homosexuals got filtered, oh well, not debating anyone on this
>Enough with the supernatural gay shit.
season two was very supernatural, it was about four people slowly realizing that they died
I always liked season 1 and season 2, didn't like season 3, didn't bother with season 4. So why don't you have a nice day? You fricking homosexual.
Season 2 is great. Kino moodpiece. Velcorro is amazing. Sorry you didn't like it anon.
I like velcorro too it's everything else that sucked
This. I cannot believe it's been nearly a decade and people are STILL fricking FILTERED to oblivion by Vince and Farrell kino.
i love the guy but vince vaughn SUCKS in any dramatic role he's ever had
Farrell had a good performance and Vaughn was funny but that still doesnt make that shitshow of a season good.
I do concede if they cut out the other two and kept Colin and Vince it'd be 10/10.
Notice how s2 defenders will exclusively talk about "the mood" because this thing doesn't hold up in any other regard.
these homies can't even explain the story without googling it
The story is extremely straightforward: Local politician blackmailed the wrong elites, who are into creepy Eyes Wide Shut stuff. These elites also ruined/ended the lives of the main characters, all of whom were investigating the death of said politician. Turns out the politician was killed by the children of people he once wronged. Also everyone has kids.
>Corrupt politicians set up land deal involving criminals but everyone is screwing each other over
>Same corrupt politicians also robbed a israeliteelry store as cops and stole some diamonds to start being corrupt politicians
>The kids of everyone involved in these deals kill off the corrupt politicians, who are replaced by new corrupt politicians
And everything in between is ultimately irrelevant filler, or make about as much sense with or without context
This is slop propaganda at the end of the day. Stop holding slop to a standard, get a grip man.
>stop having standards
You don't want to kill two birds with one stone, Ray. I tried that once. The rock was blank and the birds were drones
Sucks. Simple as.
>I want to like this season so bad
why?
because everything about it is quality. the performances, the cinematography, the soundtrack, the mood is all great just never comes together
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Ray carries the season.
You really should stop drinking, Ray. The only thing you are gonna find at the bottom of a bottle is the table
I really enjoyed my time with it.
Cinemaphile loves this season because it was funny but that doesn't make it good
it's not funny, but pathetically sad writing, pure gynocentric propaganda, like the screaming scene, or otherwise anti-white racist men-hating trash. women acting like man. frankly it's just utter trash.
>anti-white
there we go. you can just admit that from the beginning and save yourself some time
It's better than 99% of shit that comes out these days, it's not a very high bar, but s2 and s3 are still watchable.
They say it's a dog eat dog world, Ray. Well, if you ask me it's full of dingos. And I'm the vietnamese restaurant
People who like s2 pls tell me how you cope with:
>too many pointless characters (specifically gay cop)
>poorly choreographed gunfights where everyone has aimbot
>incredibly lame sex/escort scene (I can't imagine how they made a setpiece mansion filled with hot chicks less kino than the one Daddario s1 scene in a dingy apartment)
Easy.
>Gay cop
His entire storyline is him rejecting gayhood and embracing normality and fatherhood. It's based as frick.
>Gunfights
Inconsequential.
>Hookers
Go watch porn at this point.
>It's based as frick.
It is but no one here actually has watched S2 (not like brain rot would allow them) so it goes over their heads that the gay cop is actually a redpilled character.
link porn that has a multilayered detective story w/ a vague sense of doom and unease attached to it.
>w/
Black person zoomer
>waaah you have to use a chinese laptop like me you can't use speech to text gpts!
seethe harder boomer
Speak English you moronic Black person mutt
>anon makes a sex tape with his $2000 doll.mp4
>anon tries to derail thread but ends up bumping it instead
>too many pointless characters (specifically gay cop)
are you too dumb to follow multiple storylines?
>poorly choreographed gunfights where everyone has aimbot
Why didn't Woodrugh 360 noscope the AK guy inside the methlab Saving Teague?
>incredibly lame sex/escort scene (I can't imagine how they made a setpiece mansion filled with hot chicks less kino than the one Daddario s1 scene in a dingy apartment)
Bezzerides was getting intel on her missing girl, She wasn't there to frick the MC
Your complaints confirm to me that you are too stupid to enjoy a quality season
Pathetic.
DAILY REMINDER TO THE PLEBS
>True Detective 2 > True Detective 1
>True Detective 3 Black person MC = Not canon
>True Detective 4 Females MCs = Not canon
Based. It really is the biggest filter in Cinemaphile's history. It will never stop filtering people to hell and back.
shut up moron
>It really is the biggest filter in Cinemaphile's history
wrong
A lot of people on Cinemaphile liked this show, at least old Cinemaphile newbies and zoomers probably don't even know it exists.
Recently watched this and honestly was disappointing.
>>True Detective 3 Black person MC = Not canon
Wayne Hays wasn't even some woke frickery at work. Every time he gets quite uppity with Roland by insinuating he's a bad racist white man, Roland shoots him down quite handily and Hays come off as the butthole. Roland calling him an uppity, arrogant bastard was totally heard and the context of that outburst made it actually understandable how close he came to calling him a Black person.
Once again, you understand nothing, he complained about being racially discriminated against, there were constant references to race this and race that, his son blacked the other woke liberal nutjob, his wife was yet another insufferable wokie moron, and you think because a white detective called him “uppity” and didn’t even finish what he was saying was somehow the show being anti woke?
>he complained about being racially discriminated against
And made to look a chippy fool of by Roland. The scene is obviously played to make it look like Hays is being an buttholel to Roland. He otherwise brings up race several times to Roland and ends up getting rebuffed. It's his own chip-on-shoulder bullshit that causes him to be a snarky b***h to a man so patently not-racist like Roland. His wife was a literal 60's hippy, so yes she'd be a lefty c**t. His son's extra-marital affair wasn't portrayed in a positive light and frankly some depiction of a white and black person together isn't intrinsically woke but we are not hyper-sensitive to it in any and all forms because of the heavy handed agenda of the past 10 years where it is portrayed as a great thing, lionises the blacks, etc.
Lmao go back to reddlt. sorry your favorite season sucks guys.
>Yeah so I know you’ve been trying to solve this case for thirty years so here goes… so basically the girl just ran away.. I KNOW! Ugh, I KNOW! But basically she just ran away is all… oh, and the boy accidentally hit his head…SORRY!…
and that rug really tied the room together
>Lmao go back to reddlt. sorry your favorite season sucks guys.
You're clearly a moron, given how the shitty resolution is neither here nor there regarding you homosexual shrieking over muh wokery that's been so easily proven wrong. Now you got to so obviously pivot like the b***h you are
S3 still sucks, just more terrible HBO intervention forcing pizzaman to include blacks and callbacks to S1 to appease autustic braindead homosexuals like yourself
My guy!
S2posters are like Giants
I only watched the first season for Daddario's breasts
When you say gay cop do you mean the closeted gay cop or the deeply closeted Colin Farrell's comically hyper-macho cop character?
A broken clock is right twice a day? Well, Ray, mine is digital, and I never learned how to read analogue
Season 2 has more soul than all the other seasons put together and only soulless people can't appreciate that.
It deals with actual heavy themes true to life and the terminally online people here can't deal with actual reality being portrayed. They want exaggeration, caricature for their childish stunted minds. Sensationalism, big fricking breasts they can find in porn but in some show it's the greatest thing ever also they all think they're Rust.
Anything that deals with the human condition or existentialism upsets zoomers and 90s born queers because they're not real people
Jesus fricking christ you people are delusional. Every single character was a caricature of a typical Noir character and you morons think that is true to life
I didnt like it that much when I watched it, but after subsequent re watches inside my head, it has grown on me.
>I go to season 2 thread, far from APF jurisdiction. And the natives will not extradite one of their own.
If you want life to taste like rainbows then buy skittles, Ray. Me? I take so much sugar that I can't think straight. But it still tastes like shit. At least I've never had a cavity
None of these are funny.
Caspere knew this
This is just as gay. Season 2 fans come across as marvel fans or people that play video games.
I'm sorry for your inability to follow 3 interwoven plotlines and being upset about shitposting
You ever bully or hurt Anon again, I'll come back and buttfrick your father with your mom's headless corpse on this goddamn lawn
Anon I wouldn't call you a clown or call you the whole circus, but I prefer going to the aquarium and making you swim with the fishes
don't listen to him anon i chuckled
It's worth a watch and I found it entertaining, but it's a fricking mess compared to Season 1. Very typical sophomore slump stuff, Pizzaman had years to work on the S1 script and a few months to bang out the sequel.
Taylor Kitsch is a fricking terrible actor and drags everything he's involved in down. Vince's performance is entertaining but it doesn't really "work" in any kind of serious way. Farrell is great obviously but has no chemistry with anyone else. McAdams is fine I guess. 4 leads was too much and really muddies up the story way too much, especially when the characters and their relationships to each other don't work.
The central mystery and plot is so ridiculously convoluted and then fairly lame and stupid once you understand the actual background events. Some people will call this a deliberate nod to noir films and it probably is, it just doesn't work as any kind of satisfying story. It might have been salvageable if the characters worked well enough to draw you in to them and their drama, but they don't.
He was great in the terminal list. Give it a watch.
These are fair criticisms, but season 2 just has such a RAW and UNVAXXED feeling that I can't help but enjoy it over all the other seasons. I prefer Velcoro to Rust and Marty too.
McAdams, and honestly most of the leads, acting was so bland I swear the director was fighting to keep them from doing anything interesting with their characters. People like to act like the plot is super complex, but really its just a fairly simple plot that cannibalizes itself with too many characters and inexplicable pacing.
>People like to act like the plot is super complex, but really its just a fairly simple plot that cannibalizes itself with too many characters and inexplicable pacing.
This, I swear the people who act like S2's plot was too complicated for dummies to understand and filtered people literally didn't understand it themselves. It's the epitome of that "dumbasses and smart people hate this but midwits love it" meme graph.
True dumbies and smart c**ts saw the first episode and were instantly dissapointed with that gay shit. Cinemaphile midwits having nothing better to do but consoom gaslighted themselves into liking s2 because of memes from the watch threads they spammed with other morons.
What gets me is the main plot is literally spelled out in the first episode, our detectives spend most of their time figuring out that main plot, and then the remaining murder mystery is explained in a super direct way. Everything in between is just bafflingly bad filler. And season 2 defenders take people simply not tolerating dog shit as proof the plot was too complex for most people
what's with the McAdams hate? I thought the wannabe tough chick cop with hippie dad thing was good, a character who does not let herself "be a woman" having to go through the creepy sex mansion was well done
>Taylor Kitsch is a fricking terrible actor
nah
also, watch Waco
I'd prefer not to watch glowie propaganda
>4 leads was too much
Would have worked nicely with Ray and Frank as the two leads and realising their individual investigations are one in the same in like episode 2's ending and then they work together. They'd take every single shady thing Marty and Rust did up to 11. Basically unbrindled mafia vigilantism.
Was Ryan channeling his inner Vincent here?
>They say "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush", Ray... well I once gave Jodie Foster the stiff middle digit whilst sticking a pinky up her hairy fartbox. Caspere knew this.
I only ever watched the first season. Never bothered with the second until coincidentally I watched the first episode earlier today. It seemed shit. Most of it I had no idea what was going on. Who the characters were or what their motivations were. Its a mess. Dunno if i'll bother trying to watch the entire season and doubt ill try the third or fourth.
>I watched the first episode
>Its a mess.
Watch more of it, you c**t.
ok fine ill watch more. do i need to be drunk to enjoy it? colin farrell always annoys the shit out of me which is why i didnt watch it when it was being released.
>do i need to be drunk to enjoy it?
Watch more then come back and tell us instead of being a fricking braindead, attention deficit, bone idol bastard.
>being a fricking braindead, attention deficit, bone idol bastard.
i cant help that. a decade of Cinemaphile has destroyed my mind.
Some episodes are made better with alcohol yes
Season 1 and Season 2 are equally as good and any other opinion is gay and wrong
2 > 1 > 3 > 4
Definitive power ranking
Patrician
Plebian
Don't put all your eggs in one basket, Ray. That's why I never liked the bag boy at the grocery store
1 > 3 > 2 > 4 (so far)
Can live and let live with people who prefer season 1. But anyone who puts 3 over 2 is a certified gay loser.
3 was honestly and sincerely a very good season until they absolutely shit the bed with the conclusion
The leads give decent performances but apart from that the whole season is cowardly and pathetic
>cowardly and pathetic
explain
Audiences rejected season 2 for being too different, so they returned to the well and aped season 1. The laziest play they could have possibly done. Marked the turning point of using the show to pander to plebs rather than creating visionary works of art.
>Audiences rejected season 2 for being too different
No, they rejected it because it was bad. S3 was an appropriate course correction but Pizzaman unfortunately can't write a conclusion to save his career (literally).
Season 3 was dogshit except for Stephen Dorffs performance.
the partner dynamic between purple haze and roland was kino
Ali carried they were both great. You people try too hard to be contrarian.
>because it was bad
In your opinion. In my opinion it's one of the all time great seasons of television and anyone who doesn't respect it deserves to die.
>In your opinion.
In most people's opinion.
>In my opinion it's one of the all time great seasons of television and anyone who doesn't respect it deserves to die.
You're entitled to have dumb takes.
Explain? I really really like aspects of s3 and thought it had a decent shot at matching s1 but missed the mark a bit and never feel compelled to rewatch it beyond episode 1 and the ending scene of episode 5 where Ali and Dorff had top tier acting. What makes it one of the greats to you?
>S3 was an appropriate course correction
It reduced the show to "content". The cowardice of season 3 killed any chance the show would ever have of making worthwhile art ever again.
>"content"
>art
explain how these are objectively different other than whatever butthole thermometer you use to tell them apart personally
Art is the expression of creative individuals. Content is product to meet audience demand. TV shows are made for profit so there's going to be crossover but serving up a repeat of the popular season is the least creative thing they could have done. Just forgettable slop when we could have had a whole new direction again. Would have been better to have nothing at all.
They killed all the attention s1 received with s2. It should have been a single season thing and move on to different things
>and move on to different things
It did and you couldn't handle it.
I meant good
Highlights of season 2 were the elvis dream and ray beating the asspen dad. That's it
I always had a solution. Basically the mystery was far too personal and devoid of something more sinister. You could have had the Hoyts run a child trafficking ring and Julie was intended merchandise before Hoyt's batshit daughter flipped out and they adopted her. The whole deal being that, as with Rust and Marty, Hays and Roland zero in on something that is a small piece of the puzzle. The lack of a far more sinister mystery/conspiracy jars too much with the actually eerie scenes season 3 did create. Anyhow, as Rust and Marty get their guy but not everybody, Hays and Roland get their girl without really overcoming the Hoyt organisation. Otherwise, it needed Saulnier to direct every single episode, more emphasis on Roland, and far less on Amelia. I still, for whatever reason, love that 30 second ending with Hays in Nam going into the jungle.
>audiences still can not wrap their heads around how an anthology series works
>suits cave because all that matters is consoom worthy disposable media and not kino storytelling and character driven story using the detective premise as a backdrop.
>In the writers’ room, I’d argued with Nic about motivation. Simply put, I don’t believe in it and he does. I don’t believe that a single event can explain the way a person behaves. But in Nic’s conception, every character is driven by a particular engine. Well, maybe this was why. Maybe Nic himself is driven by some early trauma. Though I never discovered its nature, it remains a blank spot in his story that might explain everything.
3 is entertaining but its a total rip off of 1. at least 2 tried something different. but the vietnam scenes were cool
They told me it would cost me an arm and a leg if I got into this business. What they didn't know is that I'm a fricking lizard, Ray. And it's about time to get into a new terrarium
Want to see clear, Ray? Get out of this muddy waters. But me... Well, I'm a platypus. Yet I sense no electricity between me and my wife
I saved a man from drowning once. Gave him the kiss of life and everything. And you know what he did, Ray? He thanked me. The butthole fricking thanked me.
If you ain't handsome at least be handy. According to my life I'm fricking ugly and don't have a cordless drill, Ray.
>tv read two short books mentioned in s1
>will now pretend it's a masterpiece
Harry Potter tier fandom
>season 1
Reddit main character, generic side kick, couple of spooky scribbles and surface level book references
>season 2
Kino characters, proper detective story, not pretending to be deep with the visual references
>gaycop
Really, that's your reason? Not the convoluted plot and uninteresting storyline?
I feel surrounded, Ray, even vulnerable. Like a shooting duck. Yet I'm all out of ammo.
Nothing in season 1 comes close to the kino peaks of season 2. That counts for something even if there are greater flaws too.
facts
Watched this for the first time recently. Got to say that when they dumped in a female and a gay I was scared but the depiction of both of these demographics was thankfully highly redpilled.
Finally an intelligent anon
I watched ep. 6 tonight. What's wrong with it?
Ride muh bike to forget how gay I am
Rewatched it yesterday. Ended up skipping every scene without Colin Farrell
season 2 was decent. there's lots of stuff to like but the central mystery feels like an uninteresting mountain to slog over to see more details of what is good which is death for a detective show. also like others have said 2/4 of the main characters are boring and it never hits the cohesion and fever pitch of season 1
The fact that there was no HECKIN HP LOVECRAFT in season 2 completely mindbroke you idiots
Who cares? S2 has too many characters. 4 main characters + backstory is too much for 8 episodes. Keep Vaughn and Farrell. Get rid of Rachel McAdams and the gay guy. Use the extra time to make the plot more coherent
It was a badly written and poorly acted piece of shit no matter what you say. Just compare almost any shot between season one and two, and you will notice the season 2 shot is just visually dull. Compare the story pacing of each and you will find the same. Every single choice in season 2 was weaker, with the huge exception of season 2 having the best opening.
Finished watching it today. Ray and Frank were the best parts obviously, but female cop did a nice job. Liked the parts when she was trying to play tough but ended up mostly useless during the big Mexican firefight and the orgy mansion
1 > 3 > 2 > 4
This is the truth.
patrician taste
Objective truth(I didn't bother watching s4)
yeah
no it’s not, but yeah, we’ll pretend the Woke-Black person detective beta test that was 3 was great, it wasn’t, only season 1 and 2 are great and worth wasting your time on
are you seriously saying S3 was bad because one of the cops was black?
>we’ll pretend
I won't. Frick season 3.
There are legitimate issues with the finale but come the frick on man, the performances are right on part with season 1. The late aging/memory loss gimmick actually adds a lot to the show.
>Woke-Black person
so you didn't watch season 3, nice
>muh Black person with a chip on his shoulder
Frick him and frick you
so full of hate, must be exhausting
Yes, I did, sorry you’re a braindead zoomer who can’t read between the lines and see when something is woke in spite of it pretending not to be.
i wonder what posters like you look like irl
>hays, when drunk, insinuates roland only got a promotion cause he is white
>roland quickly shoots this bullshit down by telling him it's on him and how with AA he could have been the boss instead
>hays has to mumble out an apology after this humbling
Literally a scene that takes a shit on the idea it's institutional racism causing all the woes and missed opportunities for black.
No point arguing with you morons, you can’t read between the lines, this is what they do now, they try to make you think something is anti-woke by including a little comment here or there but in actuality it’s all a ploy, for example, Black-Cop is asked if he was wrongfully discriminated against for his skin color, he says no (there’s the misdirection) then it’s later shown that he in fact believes he was during a scene from the past, thus proving the interviewer correct, im sorry all of these things go above your heads
Back when he was a younger, angrier person, you fricking tool. Another time he asserts Roland was a second away from blasting those blacks at the trailer park vs. whites people before Roland tells him them being black and the times they were living being what they were (like 15 years post desegregation) actually made it less likely him to fire his gun. Scenes like that or that bar one between the two are clearly played with Roland coming across as earnest and being in the white vs. Hays projecting his own insecurities and anger onto a blameless white man
>a black guy in 1980 Arkansas could never have some legitimate greviances
Kek what world are you living on, unless you're trying to imply that not viewing them as intrinsic subhumans worth of death is itself wokery
Anyone who didn't know it would be the wokest and the shittiest from the one sheet alone doesn't deserve to be on Cinemaphile. Anyone who didn't read the quotes from the writer/director and know doesn't deserve to ever watch another show.
>watching copslop
What would you rather watch?
He's a zoomer so if it doesn't have a troony he's not watching it.
Not him but I’d rather watch kino behind the scenes and making of documentaries like the “appendices” for the LOTR extended editions. Just watched them again this week for the first time in twenty years and forgot how good they are. Even the Hobbit ones are pure kino, much more entertaining than the actual movies.
First and all subsequent watches of season 1 were all 10/10
First watch of s2 was an 8.5/10, second watch was a 7.5/10, third and subsequent watched are all 10/10
I agree that rewatching season 2 when I could see all the hints towards the conspiracy made it infinitely better. Catching that alchy mayor being right about some of the investigation being some buttholes from the state DA/ governors office trying to get money from a Vincy was mind blowing
Only the first 2-3 episodes were good. Season might as well have been written by JJ Abrams given the strong start but complete lack of payoff
I liked season 2, it had interesting characters and a cool setting. Vinci is like 19th century levels of political corruption and it's based on a real place.
gay. Season 2 is great
dude...when he kicks he shit out of the bully's dad, it's pretty satisfying. enough to overlook what makes you cringe? maybe. maybe not. but that's a pretty good moment.
One cool scene to justify 8 eps one hour each? I don't think so friend
The correct watch order is E1 E2 E3 E4 Repoman E5 E6 Paris Texas E7 E8
All 3 seasons are good and near equal in terms of quality iykyk
Not liking Season 2 is the ultimate filter. Im pretty sure that they made it clear that True Detective would always change its main character and setting. Sure its not Season 1 but it wasnt supposed to be
People went in thinking it was going to be part 2 of Season 1 with the same exact everything when it wasnt going to be at all.
>Sure its not Season 1 but it wasnt supposed to be
>People went in thinking it was going to be part 2 of Season 1 with the same exact everything when it wasnt going to be at all.
And all of this would be fine if the season wasn't dogshit.
People knew it was an anthology and were fine with that. They just hoped it would be as good each season, and it wasn’t even close. The mere existence of McAdams’ and the gay cop as main characters is a fundamental flaw with the story that brings it down in quality.
I always found it funny that colin ferrel and the attractive wife had a moronic red head fat freak kid
Yeah it's almost good. There are some great characters and some good plot points but it's just kind of a mess with too many threads and there is basically no detective work.
umm, sweetie that means that you're moronic.
Or are you mad because you're gay?
im chinese
>excuse me you don't like s2?
>your dumb lol
why are s2 enjoyers so predictable?
because s2 is a midwit show
there's a reason you can always find the bully scene online sped up with chinese subtitles with a billion views, it's trying so hard to be cool
>anti bully
Bad Santa>True Detective season 2
I liked it but for me it goes 1>3>2 and i'm just not watching 4 lol
Season 3 is best. It has Sarah Gadon.
But why did Ass-Pen shit in the LeBrons?