And it got me thinking, how are trannies supposed to define the word "woman"?
Is it the person's sex that makes a person a woman? But then that would mean trannies are not women.
Is it anyone who identifies as a woman a woman? But if anyone can identify as a woman and there are no qualifications for what a woman is that would make the word woman meaningless, meaning there would be no point in trannies transitioning in the first place.
Is it the social characteristics that make a person a woman? For example to ease their "gender dysphoria" most MtF trannies start shaving body hair, wearing makeup, growing out their hair, wearing clothing like dresses and heels. Is this what makes a person a woman? Otherwise why would these things ease a trans person's dysphoria? But doesn't make sense either since there are many biological women out there who don't care about doing or wearing any of the things I just listed and they're still women.
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Frick trannis, and frick females. Let them rape, kill, cancel, replace each other.
They can’t and they see no reason to do so. Leftism is feelings not logic
I was gonna watch this but then I saw this guy on the cover and holy shit I've never seen a more pure distillation of soi in my life. I bet by the end of the movie he's sucking off trannies under highway overpasses.
You couldn't be more wrong
its a great tactic to look onions as frick and interview moronic "psychologists" about trannies for long periods of time.
he doesnt look or sound onions in the doc.
Unlike many of his interviewees.
Meh he has a good looking wife and a bunch of kids
You might not like it but thats what peak performance looks like.
>woman
>spends hours getting ready for wedding and perfecting every single detail of her body and clothes
>man
>gets out of bed 15 mins before wedding and smokes and bowl then wanders into the venue stoned off his ass
based
He has a giant tattoo of this on his forearm. It's kinda fricking gay.
Now, why would an ancient traditional Christian symbol be gay, Shlomo?
Found the wannabe ~~*middle eastern*~~ with the mutilated dick.
Dear lord.
Same what a dumb looking nerd
He doesn't look onions in the slightest. Just because you have a beard and use glasses doesn't mean you're onions that's not how the meme works moron
a beard and glasses actually do make you look soi.
t. Soibeard
Soibeards are patchy and pube like. Being able to grow a decent beard doesn't autimatically make you soi dumb Black person
afaik troony logic is that there's a difference between sex (biology) and gender (social characteristics), and different types of trannies (transgenders, transsexuals) change sex/gender/both depending on what they think makes one a woman.
is there a difference between transgender and transsexual? wtf
transgender: identifies as woman but doesn't get a surgery, because they think being a woman is a social concept, not biological
transsexual: get surgery because they think it's biological
Ladyboy was such a better term. Let's go back to using that. Then we know which ones have dicks and which ones have man made horrors beyond my comprehension.
You are going to get banned for this post. Tv jannies are on full crackdown rn.
The transgender BS is in a obvious conflict with the "breaking gender norms/gender is a social construct" bs yes, same as feminism which is what lead to the "terf" drama.
In the end progressives are just united I their hatred of white heterosexual males.
they dont really hate white heterosexual males for these attributes though, that's just a cover. They hate us because we unironically work harder, care more about morality and proper work ethic and want things done properly. All very annoying qualities for 3rd world people who want to continue living a 3rd world lifestyle unbothered by pesky white males.
>hatred of white heterosexual males.
why though?
evil hates good
like how fat people hate fit people
or women hate men
or israelites hate gentiles
it's that simple
Because that’s what the nazis were.
no please you'll summon the nazi troony spammer
They hate us cause they ain't us basically.
Or at least they feel they can't identify with us because of a warped perspective on history and inflicted feelings of guilt.
In the end it makes a lot of sense for angry women, minorities and sexual deviants to work at tearing us down because whatever they can do to us gives them more power for their own group and ultimately themselves. Progressivism all comes down to selfishness.
or its as simple as
>i don't feel like what everything is telling me i'm supposed to feel like
and then they go on the internet and embrace the first thing that makes sense to them.
Because they're 13% yet achieve and produce over 50% of everything.
Transgenderism BTFO by one post
Women are trash. Incels are also trash. It makes sense that incels would want to become women.
>can't get a gf
>let's become the gf
Isn't this exactly what Chris-chan did?
It's what every single troony ever did.
It's loser men who want to get the attention women get but are too stupid to realize no one is going to give it to them because they're not actually women (bar a few nuts who want to cash in on their mental illness).
Stop asking questions just consume current thing and get excited for next thing.
>Is it anyone who identifies as a woman a woman?
That's the answer that none of them could come up with. Now, to them, it literally just means any person that identifies with she/her pronouns. That's all it takes. A biological woman saying otherwise is a TERF. A man saying otherwise is a bigot. Welcome to the future.
>it literally just means any person that identifies with she/her pronouns
Then why do they need clothes, hormones, surgeries. Just say you are a woman and you are done with it.
it's called a motte & bailey
more traditionally, it's called sophistry
they will argue whatever they need to and can get away with at the time. most of the time, they just want to troll you, so they will say dumb shit like anyone who identifies as one is a woman. and then morons take them seriously and push actual policy based on it. it really is the greatest gay op of all time. they've trolled all of civilized society into going full-schizo.
Because they know it's not true, and just hearing it isn't enough.
Those who think it means participation in a social role will do the clothes, hairstyles etc., those who think it's biological will do the hormones and surgeries.
Because they know no amount of acceptance will actually make them a woman. Laws and documents won't give them a working uterus. We can call them women till we are blue in the face and they will still be a man. Reality does not care for anyone's feelings.
The big problem comes because the left still has some women's issues that they wish to defend, but based on their troony-appeasement, they struggle to frame "women's issues" in a meaningful way.
You understand the logical problem with that "definition", right?
>A woman is someone who says they're a woman
It includes the thing it's trying to define in the definition. At best it's a property of a woman but it cannot be a definition
Only females can be women. It's not hard to understand.
That you differentiate between female and woman alone is very telling of how sick mutt culture has gotten. I hope you collapse before this shit permeates over here in Italy. We've always been more resilient to mutt propaganda than germans or frenchies but we eventually get infected a few decades down the line too.
>A chud is doing Louis CK documentaries better than Louis CK
You mean Louis Theroux right? I prefer David Ferrier
No. I mean Louis CK. The redhead comedian that got cancelled for jerking off in front of some girls.
But he doesnt make documentaries? He has 3 fictional shows and multiple comedy specials.
Leftists are not people so they don't worry about logical consistency.
Leftists are domesticated attack dogs.
kek
How much full frontal nudity is in it?
Trannies can't define it because the majority of them are not even dysphoric, but coomers who get off from autogynephilia.
>coomers who get off from autogynephilia
What makes you think they can't be dysphoric
I spend a lot of time on /tttt/ talking to the cuties. I know how trannies work by now. Real dysphoric trannies with brains biologically wired to feel like the opposed sex are extremely rare. The current troony epidemic is product of mostly two things. 1: society is brainwashing kids to transition. This is why most trannies are FTM. Teenage girls are naturally hypersocialized, so it's easy to brainwash them into thinking they should be boys. And 2: coomers who never thought about being trans until their 20s when they started jerking off to the idea of fricking themselves in a female body. Most giga hons, like pic related, are in this second category.
pretty sure digi faps to pictures of himself as a little kid. unironically.
Yeah. Before coming out as a trans he was an open e-girlcon and his justification was that it was fine because he looked like a cute girl when he was a kid.
I have AGP. I began imagining myself as a woman since puberty. It's a fricking nightmare to deal with.
>This is why most trannies are FTM
Apart from Ellen Paige I have literally never seen another FTM troony. Every single one I see is MTF. You need to check your troony sources.
Chaz Bono
troons have always been almost all males ("to females"). until very recently. then the last decade or so that's changed, for im sure totally impossible to understand reasons
Also when you see those detransition stories, 9 out of 10 times it's girls saying they were brainwashed to transition into men and they didn't know any better and now they have to live with a deep voice and a huge clitt.
Based
The detransition because they realize they turned themselves into the kind of guy they snickered about with their clique back in HS.
Because it used to be to help you molest women, and now it's for social clout. Women don't do shit unless it makes them popular or get attention.
>totally impossible to understand reasons
tell me please im dumb
it has become trendy to be 'non-binary' and women are slaves to social trends
thats fricked up
the take-away of course is that "transtrending" is 100% real and that telling girls to troon out is unironically child abuse at a level more extreme than the ever so hated female genital mutilation.
but I suppose it's no surprise that the same people sterilizing their daughters and cutting their breasts off also actually have no problem with arabs cutting their daughters' clits off if the possibility of an accusation of "islamophobia" hangs in the air at the time
i want off this ride
Ive worked or been roommates with 4 or 5 different females pretending to be dudes. If they dont outright change their name they want to be they/them. Its way more common with people under 25. Ive yet to meet a guy pretending to be a girl, its almost like a fantasy thing. Ive been to burlesque shows and drag diners but they dont consider themselves women, they just like to dress up and dance/sing. That seems healthier to me
I miss when there were just guys who crossdressed and did drag, and left it at that. I can't imagine something like Rocky Horror coming out now without having Tim Curry lambasted for not being a troon.
Transgenderism is backed up by science and facts. It's not a new religion, I swear!
Based troony expert
you forgot the third category; schizos who spend so much time obsessing trannies that they accidentally turn themselves into troons. ie you
This is the biggest elephant in the room in this whole situation. The correlation between porn addiction and MTF trannies is likely somewhere in the 90% range and the left is deathly afraid of allowing any non-biased academic research on this subject.
Yes OP, transgenderism doesn't make logical sense when you think about it for more that 2 seconds. Most non-moronic people have figured that out.
'ate troons and 'ate women, but I'm not going to watch this because it's made by a israelite company.
Nobody on earth not even trannies actually believe they are women
You'd be surprised at how delusional some of them are
That's why they're changing the definition of words. Just like black people can't possibly be racists, because now racism is = power + prejudice
It means whatever they need or want it to mean at any moment. It's all a powerplay. You're not going to reach a conclusive answer and outsmart these people based on logic and reason because thesr definitions don't really matter to them, what matters is that they can use this stuff to game the system and get what they want.
I’m convinced the guy on the cover is the same guy that started this gay ass thread. Quit shilling your lame documentary.
Welcome to Cinemaphile.
>But if anyone can identify as a woman there would be no point in trannies transitioning in the first place.
somebody debunk this right now
presumably it would be to bring the external body in line with the internal identity? which would pose the question where the internal identity comes from in the first place
>Modern men are having such little sex they have to have a documentary explain to them what a woman is
I'm pretty sure the point of that documentary is that everyone knows what a woman is and they just want leftoids to admit that deep down they too know the real definition and just don't want to admit it.
Trannies are barely conscious neurotic balls of fetishes and evil impulses. Barely even human beings, mentally ill degenerates who have no firm basis on their “deeply” held beliefs of dysphoria
Just lol, a simple word (sir) can make them melt down. They are weak, pathetic israelite golems, and deep down they know this. The only thing that keep them in this world is pure spite and the desire to perpetuate their pain by inflicting it on others.
I genuinely, sincerely hope that God will smite trannies for their never ending arrogance and shameless striving.
It would be mercy.
>Just lol, a simple word (sir) can make them melt down
GOOD MORNING SIRS!!!
This thread official song
my thoughts on the documentary 1 hour in
https://vocaroo.com/1kPW0pItzqqz
>Is it the person's sex that makes a person a woman? But then that would mean trannies are not women.
previously, it was understood with the trannies of old that they were transexuals. Sex was supposed to make you a man or a woman. The whole point of getting a sex change was so that you could socially present as a woman or man. Now, you can't even say that trans women are male because it's "transphobic."
At some point, when trannies started becoming mainstream, there was a war of sorts between dysphoric trannies and non-dysphoric trannies. Obviously the non-dysphoric ones won, because the dysphoric ones were being exclusionary, which is a big NO in the left. But after this being trans lost all its meaning. The same people who tell you gender is a social construct and that they are transgender, not transexual, will call you a transphobe if you ask them why they need to take hormones if being trans is a social thing and not a sexual one.
Reminder that "gender" doesn't exist and it was invented by a pedo scammer in the 1950s. Everyone using that word is just murking the waters and feeding schizo delusions.
sanest post itt
Dammit, I chose to believe they’re mocking them. Love their product
>how are trannies supposed to define the word "woman"?
As shown in the movie, they obviously can't. You can call yourself a cat all you want, you can force everyone else to call you a cat, have yourself legally recognised by one on pain of death for anyone who denies your cathood, but you still will never be a cat. Even in a fantasy world where science is advanced enough that you can just take a pill and every cell in your body will switch chromosomes overnight and you'll grow a functioning womb, you can't somehow erase 20+ years of living as a man. You might perfectly resemble a woman, but you still wouldn't be one.
how do men differ from women,
men are more aggressive, more violent.
men are more forward,
Traits traditionally viewed as masculine in Western society include strength, courage, independence, leadership, and assertiveness.
so women are more nurturing, intuitive, compassionate,
raits such as nurturance, sensitivity, sweetness, supportiveness, gentleness, warmth, passivity, cooperativeness, expressiveness, modesty, humility, empathy, affection, tenderness, and being emotional, kind, helpful, devoted, and understanding have been cited as stereotypically feminine.
>men are more aggressive, more violent.
This is actually not true. High testosterone is correlated with calmness.
Yeah, low testosterone makes men stressed out.
This is not true at all. It's associated with confidence and therefore a potential to not unnecessary lash out because you're dominant. I've been on steroids, they can make you more aggressive 100%
>I've been on israelite pills that imitate testosterone
kek
0/10
Steroids are going to frick your hormonal balance, so no wonder you got more aggressive, but there's a reason why lesbian couples beat the shit out of other more than any other pairing and gay men the less. Estrogenoids are more aggressive than men.
I had roid rage as a teen. Hormones and shit. Test makes you perfectly capable of splitting someone’s skull because you disliked their face. Not that one does something like that today (we are an oversocialized society). But at one point in time this was a valuable skill that was solely a masculine domain
I tend to go with two halves, biology and legally (socially). While troons may never be women biologically, they can make a concerted effort and apply to be considered one legally, and in the social space.
A lot of the loudest ones don't understand the difference though, which is why you have them screaming about being involved with campaigns about periods or even get added onto maternity wards birthing guidance. Getting the surgery to make a wound between your legs is not the same as being born with an actual vulva, but they want to go to a gynaecologist when those doctors are not the kind they need to see.
It's sad that they have mental issues, since that's also what makes them vulnerable to the nonsense others are trying to push about ~~*gender*~~ and how biology isn't real. Or trying to push how, because other species work differently to humans, that humans are also actually just like clownfish and can change sex at will. Those takes infuriate me.
>biology and legally (socially)
Both things can't be separated, because to be perceived as a woman you have to look like one, which is only possible by biologically hacking your body by feeding it with female hormones.
Socially yes, legally anything is possible.
I meant biologically as in actual bio females.
The legal and social half is the troons transitioning to get close enough to be considered a woman in the legal sense. They will never be bio females, no matter how much they may look like it on the surface.
>legally (socially)
Nah, frick that. Legal fiction is what got us into this mess in the first place. A man can never be a woman in any sense. In all spaces where sex matters it should take preference over any murky idea of gender, which means males use male spaces and females use female spaces. And in spaces where sex doesn't matter, it also doesn't matter whether they're being "perceived" as women, so what's the need for a legal document proclaiming them as one?
>B-but transwomen get assaulted in male spaces
Ok? Seems like that's men's problem to fix. Foisting it onto women with some idea of when it's "acceptable" for them to use women's spaces is the crux of this whole issue, because when it was acceptable used to be when they got the snip, and since then it's gradually moved to the point where anyone with a five o'clock shadow in a dress can waltz into women's changing rooms because "What are you going to do? Genital inspections?"
Prove you exist
Prove what a number is
Liberals want to start with a definition and think that defines reality, rather than using a definition to make sense of reality.
Can someone post a link before the thread is nuked, pls? Yesterday's Mega got deleted.
Read the thread anon
Nevermind, I got it
anonfiles[dot]c0m/Bateq3mby9/What_is_a_Woman_The_Daily_Wire_mp4
Or
I only really saw the interview with that congressman and I don't really care to see any more after that. I can't stand trannies and think they should all be locked up in the nuthouse but it's clear that the documentary is incredibly biased and is acting in bad faith. Like, he went straight into that trans bathroom thing and adopted a very confrontational attitude
a woman is an adult human female
why are we pretending that this is such a mystery?
>not taking the solipsism pill
A woman is anyone I think is a woman.
Frick self identification, it doesn't matter what (you) think (you) are.
My perception defines it.
phenomenology pilled. Yeah. I agree. But 99% of trannies are clearly dudes.
blatant shill thread 8
At least it's not Machine Gun Kelly talking to himself for hours to shill his movie thinking no one can see the number of posters in a thread.
LMAO I remember that thread. I hadn't laughed that much in years
kys mass-replying cretins
>*walks into your thread*
>*pulls over a chair*
>*stands on it so he can look you in the eye*
>"so anon, i heard you were talking shit like i wouldnt find out?"
>*cracks knuckles*
what do, Cinemaphile?
>what do, Cinemaphile?
Put a hand on her head and hold her at arm's distance. She's like 5'2, the frick is she going to do?
“He’s” the most pathetic male you can imagine. Literally less masculine than a 15 year old boy.
At heart, still a woman. They can carve their bodies as much as they like, it will never change the contents of their blood.
HE has a woman’s mind, a woman’s body, a woman’s upbringing, a woman’s puberty, sexual awakening etc etc
It is sad to see her in Juno and think, wow what a promising actress hope her career takes off so more women can get good roles oh wait...nvm
Rape
You will never be a woman
hot
The whole idea is to dismantle the concept of gender, which makes it a little weird that they piss and moan so much about getting someone’s gender right
I now refer to myself as a person with a penis in woke crowds
The whole idea is it's a bunch of malleable bullshit that is whatever they need it to be at the time. It's all based on gender stereotypes, until it isn't and we need to dismantle them, which is how you end up with bullshit like butch transwomen, so someone born as a man, who thinks they're a woman, but presents like a man, seems like that's just a man. Nobody is saying sex doesn't exist, until they are and saying transwomen should be allowed into women's sports and transwomen are actually female
You will never, ever be a young attractive female.
This is making me wish Bret Easton Ellis would just go ahead and finally make American Psycho 2 where Patrick is spazzing out about modern culture
You will never be a cute girl. Ever.
Is Matt Walsh cancelled yet?
Not even 5 full minutes in and the first woman on camera is already a manic, leftist harpy that looks to be on SSRIs.
Uh oh leftist sisters
I just watched that part too. It was hilarious when he asks her "what is a woman" and she, clearly a woman, answers "I'm not a woman so I can't answer that" LMAO
She honestly looked 5 minutes away from jumping over the table and going on a knifing spree. Her mannerisms were literally identical to those of paranoid schizophrenics on meds, mixed in with your run of the mill terminally online millenial huffpost reader.
Yeah. The movie is hilarious. Everyone he interviews is so obviously insane. Weirdly enough, the trans surgeon he interviewed at the beginning gave one of the most reasonable answers if you try to make sense of all this trans bullshit.
And even then he had to basically give one of the most measured responses I've ever seen in my entire life.
Not even politicians can do that, who've got everything written for them beforehand. Yet here we are, a troony career-mutilator dancing around the subject trying to justify his life choices as jackson freeman 2.0, lest he slips and his entire world collapses at the utterance of just one wrong word.
And she was easily the most pleasant leftist in the movie.
>YWNBAW
>And it got me thinking, how are trannies supposed to define the word "woman"?
By getting a degree in biology of course.
Nice pol thread, op.
you will NEVER be a woman, btw
think on that the next time you are pumping estrogen into your ass pls
>>And it got me thinking, how are trannies supposed to define the word "woman"?
>>By getting a degree in biology of course.
Haven't seen such a hard self-own in quite a while.
Wish theyd add mass reply to the report list. Im fine with the porn
Nice body
Op is a moron. The whole point of the doc is that the loons have no idea what they want or are trying to be. They have no definition of a woman, yet the "right" does, that is a female person. So this doc is just trying to 'own the libs' and shows how easy it is to do.
>The whole point of the doc is that the loons have no idea what they want or are trying to be.
They know exactly what they're trying to be, they just can't define it because the definition inherently excludes them and they don't want to live in reality.
ok groomers
It’s interesting that the image there was clearly written by a woman.
cadence, insults, woman’s perspective makes this clear.
They have a strong, mostly untapped vitriol for trannies. We should exploit it somehow
I mean, the whole "fashion sense that reeks of male sensibilities" is literally woman talk.
She is right though
Most trans females wear tights, skirts, heels, long hair etc. I dated a tomboy and she had some hair in her armpits and wore guy clothes with a pixie cut. I dont know if the trannies will ever realize that you cant replicate a woman' s essence by dressing like a bimbo
>I dont know if the trannies will ever realize that you cant replicate a woman' s essence by dressing like a bimbo
They don't care, if anything they get off on making people say they're women, despite looking like that. It's all about boundary breaking, it's a fetish.
Letting trannies use their change rooms is quickly turning women against the troons, they are fricking freak shows
>They have a strong, mostly untapped vitriol for trannies. We should exploit it somehow
it's already happening. "TERFs" have been raging against this shit for decades. the transsexual empire came out like 40 years ago
> The most sane people in this entire doco were a bunch of African tribesmen.
> A couple of black dudes with a goat are mogging the entire United States.
I love clown world as much as I hate it.
I felt for that teenage athlete who talked about how her years in highschool were stolen by trannies.
Don't, anon. If it weren't for the troony, she surely would have been a feminist pushing for this shit.
In my experience, white female athletes that don't go full short-hair dyke tend toward conservatism.
Around 8-% of Maasai women have FGM practiced on them, so I'm not going to be listening to them on any of the finer points of this. Though really it does help prove a point, you think any Maasai woman has gotten out of that by saying they actually identify as a man? You think any woman has been allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia, by cutting their hair short and saying they're a dude? Society still knows exactly what a man is and what a woman is, no matter what linguistic games any society plays.
What do transwomen appear in the news for? Being politicians, CEOs, four star admirals, and sexual assault (and even then great steps are taken to try and pretend it was a woman that did it). What about transmen? Whenever they get pregnant or killed by their partners.
trannies are mentally ill misogynists who want to rape kids.
Trannies are literal sub human filth, but it's actually very telling to see how certain groups of people are literally in PTSD mode that trannies exist
>certain groups
they're violent, sexually perverse rapists, so if you mean 'certain groups' you men 'normal people' then yes ofcorse it's 'telling'. it's telling you these freaks are dangerous buttholes nobody wants to be around.
That disgusting filth looks straight out a Cronenberg movie ffs
Threadly reminder: the "Baby On Board thing was originally intended as a per-trip signage to indicate to first responders that there is an infant in the vehicle, because of how often infants are involved in horrific traffic accidents, and cops just assume that the pink skidmark is just a body part, and not an entire human being that needs to be accounted for.
But I get it. Xhe probably ate a bit of cheese earlier that day, and now Xhe can feel it kicking around Xer pussy. That's basically the same thing, right?
>Xhe probably ate a bit of cheese earlier that day, and now Xhe can feel it kicking around Xer pussy.
Jesus Christ anon how do you come up with this shit
There are only men, and women.
A “transwoman” is called trans woman because she’s clearly not, and never will be a real woman.
The fact leftists push this shit is fantastic. They’re alienating people by the millions and it’s glorious
these look like the AI generated monsters that have been making the rounds lately
>JUST
> But then that would mean trannies are not women.
that is why you see them settle with calling themselves trans and staying there. it's the admittance that they can't hack it as an actual woman, so they stop using the woman label, and stick with the self inflicted limbo they've imposed onto themselves that is being trans. a 3rd option. an inescapable hell. their last ditch effort to tie all of their remaining sanity together.
What is a Man sequel when
>look like a freak
>get treated like a freak
The frick did he expect?
Honestly, the friend is kind of a dick in that story too. He must have known what would happen, he must know how brutal gay men can be with other gay men and known that they're all the more brutal with transmen
Yeah it was a brutal bullying attempt (and success). I’m glad I lack the capacity to be as nasty as homos are but imo trannies deserve everything they get
That or he was naive and too used to drinking the kool-aid, being in the same "college queer group" as her.
Sure but I don't understand how the frick trannies can delude themselves into thinking everyone will just accept them as a man/woman and not as some physically mutilated abomination after cutting off their penis or vice versa.
People can delude themselves into a lot of things, delusion is a hell of a drug. Especially when they're getting smoke blown up their asses 24/7. The enablers are just as bad in this whole thing.
And it's something I've never gotten, we're always told "be kind". It's kind to tell them they pass, it's kind to say they're stunning and brave and totally every bit the woman. It fricking isn't. Because eventually reality is going to set in like in that story. Notice how the friend didn't want anything to do with her either, not even he believes the bullshit he's spouting. TRA in the streets, TERF in the sheets. And even a good portion of enablers will draw the line at sports, so again they don't really believe it. The only difference between me and them is my line for where I'm willing to lie about it doesn't exist.
>pre top and pre bottom
Let me translate this for people who dont speak troony. A fully biological female walked into an all gay sex party, and she was shocked, surprised, and traumatized by the fact that none of the homosexual men wanted anything to do with her
i dont understand
if she says that her breasts and her vag are male breasts and male vag, then surely gay men would be into that as gay men are males who are into other males, right?
something is off about this...
Corrective rape is the only way to make gay transphobes learn & understand.
A woman is a person with breasts, a functional vegana and a womb that can carry and grow children.
I think 99.997% of men (and women) would agree.
If you'd ask this same group if a man who cut off his penis, got implants and had a hole drilled into his bottom is a woman, they'd probably say no, that's simply a man who castrated himself and then some. If your monkey brain doesn't fire off warning signs of disgust at the sight of a troony you're probably mentally ill as well.
It's simple biology people.
A few freaks claiming they are female because they removed their Johnson does not make them a biological woman.
This is basic fricking education.
I love the healthy stench of an authentic pussy in the morning
This is a joke right?
it's a troll
the author is a right-wing "provocateur satirist" who constantly makes shit up about what left wing activists want and then writes concern troll articles while LARPing as a leftist ally about the things he just made up.
it's an obvious grift, yet right wingers fall for it anyway.
So you don't find it funny?
what's the joke? Poop haha stinky, make the libtard smell da poopee?
it's like if I said
>according to activists and health experts I have interviewed (trust me, they're real), it is important for all conservative men to eat a regular dose of fresh semen as a way to boost their natural testosterone levels and not be a soiboi cuck
and then circulated this article exclusively among gommunist lefty gays
it's really not a very funny, original, or clever troll. It's obviously false, it derives 100% of its "humor" for the lowest form of comedy, and it only serves as a circlejerk topic for insufferable lefties to pass around as a way to say
>heh, look at how dumb the enemy are, they're eating semen!
when they aren't even doing it, because no one is moronic enough to fall for such a blatant hoax and because it's not even on their radar anyway. It's exclusively being passed around by the people who think it's "funny", not by people taking it seriously
>according to activists and health experts I have interviewed (trust me, they're real), it is important for all conservative men to eat a regular dose of fresh semen as a way to boost their natural testosterone levels and not be a soiboi cuck
The fact you basically described most of lefty "satire" against any anti-homosexual politician of 00s makes me think you're too fricking underage to remember the 00s.
>give example of unfunny leftwing satire to parallel unfunny rightwing satire
>yeah well that's unfunny leftwing satire from the 00's, so there! take that!
what's your point anon?
Yeah, both are moronic, that's the point
do you have brain damage?
>give example of unfunny leftwing satire to parallel unfunny rightwing satire
literally no one has said that anon
christ you're moronic.... that's not referring to a command, it's referring to a summary statement. You know, how greentext works?
anyway, if you find le ebin semen eating homophobe joke unfunny, idk why you're so vigorously defending le ebin poopoo smelling troony ally joke
they're both stupid for exactly the same reason: the "satire" is just scatological humor directed towards a circlejerk of morons to giggle about an imagined group of enemy morons doing something silly that isn't actually happening except in your fevered imagination
Hi, can you provide a definition of the word "woman" for me?
It's very telling you ignored my definition
There's difference between not neing a response and being ignored.
Interesting. What is it that you find disagreeable about biology?
Nothing, I'm not a troon.
Except the shit that "right wing grifters" have been saying for decades now keeps coming true.
At this point the most absurd satire becoming reality seems no more than a matter of time .
Just finished it and I enjoyed it, I liked that it wasn't hateful towards the people suffering from mental illness while being critical of the institutions that are supposed to help and educate them.
Traits traditionally viewed as masculine in Western society include strength, courage, independence, leadership, and assertiveness.
raits such as nurturance, sensitivity, sweetness, supportiveness, gentleness, warmth, passivity, cooperativeness, expressiveness, modesty, empathy, affection, tenderness, and being emotional, kind, and understanding have been cited as stereotypically feminine.
>MY PARTY'S DOCUMENTARIES ARE TRUTH AND GOOD AND REAL
>OTHER PARTY'S DOCUMENTARIES ARE LIES AND EVIL AND MANIPULATION
Unironically why is America like this? Regardless of the opinions of the documentary you can tell it's not trying to reach an unbiased consensus it's just some performative masturbation.
What went wrong America?
What is a woman?
Someone with the chromosomes XX instead of XY
There, problem solved
a human fetus that developed into a female because of estrogen
So if I take estrogen will I change into female
Stop posting from the womb, you're underage
if you are a FETUS then YES
its actually decided before then. if at the point of conception the sperm carries an X chromosone then the resulting zygote will grow into a female fetus and so on
...an adult human female?
That's transphobic.
>not trying to reach an unbiased consensus
What "unbiased consensus" are you imagining?
It's a documentary showing leftists are liars. That's it. It's just asking tough questions to watch them squirm, lie, and deny reality.
What is a woman?
Who is this cutie?
>Is it the person's sex that makes a person a woman? But then that would mean trannies are not women.
Didn't read past this.
I loved the tribesmen scene, hilarious.
>posts a criminally ugly troony homosexual that would never pass as a female
ok
post the magnet, homosexual
That bit with the middle aged former troon woman is fricking brutal.
gets death threats
trannies trying to kill them
Religions hate apostates even more than heathens
where can I watch it?
There's a link to it just a few posts above yours
thx famm
Julia Serano covers this in her book, Whipping Girl. Obviously sex is something greater than just genitals and chromosomes. A man who gets into an accident and loses his genitals is still a man. A woman with a hysterectomy is still a woman. There also exist interesex conditions such as androgen insensitivity syndrome that can result in someone with XY chromosomes becoming female.
The current explanation for trans people is the idea of "subconscious sex" which is a function of the brain and can be wholly divorced from the body. 99% of the time, subconscious sex and physical sex are congruent, but occasionally they misalign. This can be caused by changes in the amount of hormones in the womb. The brain and body develope at different times. If the body developes under the influence of testosterone and the brain under estrogen, then you're probably going to end up with a trans woman. This is reinforced by data. Brain scans show that the hypothalamus (which regulates hormones) in trans women is more similar to cis women than that of cis men, even before starting hormone replacement therapy.
http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/biblio/articles/2015to2019/2016-transsexualism.html
So the answer to your question, "What is a woman" is "anyone with a female subconscious sex." If your next question is "Why don't we conduct brain scans on every trans person to see of it's legitimate?" the answer is that there really isn't a point. The idea of one's sex is so innate, that if your even *considering* changing it, well then girl I have some news for you. Anyway, that's what a woman is. Matt Walsh is trash, and you really shouldn't be wasting your time on him.
>"What is a woman" is "anyone with a female subconscious sex."
>Whoever is in the kitchen, that is a woman, the one with lady brain
get the frick out of here misogynist.
That's offensive to non binary people. Are they supposed to have a non binary subconscious sex?
baka
Leading theory is...yes possibly? There's needs to be more studies. NBs get ignored time and time and again by the medical world, and I have no idea why. Trans people were still trans before brain scans were invented. Just because there haven't been good studies for non-binary people doesn't mean there isn't anything going on there.
Are you actually saying your gender can be defined by brain scans? Truly and honestly this is what you believe? Think about this.
How big was the sample used though?
Did they try to use purely homosexual men and women who always felt this way in the sample?
The results may surprise you.
>"Why don't we conduct brain scans on every trans person to see of it's legitimate?" the answer is that there really isn't a point
why?
why cant we just fully prove your theory?
why not?
because it proves that a lot of trannies are lying?
>because it proves that a lot of trannies are lying?
Unironically yes. Real gender dysphoria is extremely rare.
...because it's expensive and impractical? Sorry that's what I was implying. In a clinical study setting, they do conduct brain scans. If you read the paper, they found that the 1st and 2nd interstitial neurons in trans women are the same size as in cis women (i.e. , much smaller than that of cis males). In a medical treatment setting, it's easier to just skip this part and start feeding them hormones. 99% of the time patients improve drastically.
>lol just skip it and start giving children hormones and surgeries
If there was an actual way to scan the brain and prove someone was a troony it would be screeched from the rooftops. You are trolling.
>lol just give them electroshock therapy and send them to camps
see, I can strawman, too!
>In a medical treatment setting, it's easier to just skip this part and start feeding them hormones
That's exactly what you just said though? If you could actually scan a brain and go yep these person exhibits physical signs of troonosity it would be the most obvious thing in the world to do before giving kids hormones.
Again, you have to be trolling.
That person wasn't me, but I agree, that was a strawman. No one is giving hormones to children. Some older teens, yes, but only with parental permission and at a stage in life where they can fully understand the consequences of transitioning.
>but only with parental permission
In Canada you only need one parent to approve it though, and a 13 year old kid is not a older teen by any means.
I can't speak for Canada, they're trying to take everyone's guns away, so frick that place. But yeah, one parent is probably enough. And it's usually not at 13, that's odd. At that age puberty blockers may be prescribed, but those are reversible.
>at a stage in life where they can fully understand the consequences of transitioning.
LMAO, morons don't know what they are doing in their life when they are 25, you are expecting 15 year olds to know any better?
I think a 15 year old can competently answer the question "am I a boy or am I a girl," yes.
>people cannot lie about what they are
Can they though? What are we basing this feeling of being a boy or a girl on exactly? What if they're a dumb teen whose thought process is "I'm into men, but girls are supposed to be into men, guess that makes me a girl"? Can they answer the question "Are you willing to be potentially sterile?" at 15?
At age 15 a healthy boy or a healthy girl are so hormonal they just want to get some of the opposite of whatever they are
I mean, they can, but they can also be groomed to think otherwise, just like the moronic 25 year olds
It's a well known fact that brains develop until you're around 25
15 year olds are morons who are easily manipulated by fads, peer pressure, groomer teachers, groomer therapists, and groomer adults on the internet. Many people are uncomfortable in their bodies around that age and everyone goes through phases they incorrectly think will last their whole life.
>he was 24 years old you sick frick!
>No one is giving hormones to children
lol
>but only with parental permission
lol
>at a stage in life where they can fully understand the consequences of transitioning.
lol
Are you trans? If not why are you going to bat for big pharma who are exploiting these kids and teens to turn them into lifelong subscribers to their hormones and surgeries?
just because you live in a schizophrenic delusion doesn't make that reality
>big pharma
>benefiting from surgery
>benefiting from dirt cheap generic hormones that are farmed out of India
>a lifetime of both
you know literally nothing about what you're talking about
cancer drugs are where big pharma is putting all its money these days, because those are designer and are needed for a whole lifetime
they don't give a shit about 0.3% of the population taking estrogen and testosterone from Dr. Gupta through online mail order, there's no money there for them
but of course, your brain can't comprehend things in any context but massive webs of conspiracy (see: schizophrenia) so you unironically believe that big pharma is indoctrinating's kids to sell them $1.50 of birth control pills per month until they get surgery
>No one is giving hormones to children
But they are giving them puberty blockers and over 90% who go on puberty blockers later move onto cross sex hormones. Turns out when you take a child confused about their bodies and put them on medication that leaves them looking nothing like their peers, they end up even more confused about their bodies. Who'd have fricking though?
A doctor over here was just struck off for, among other infractions, giving a 9 year old puberty blockers after one session of therapy, where the child didn't even talk
>No one is giving hormones to children.
so you are ignorant and naive
or, a troll
or a mentally ill troony
>No one is giving hormones to children
But that just isn't true.
Why do you people have so much hatred for truth and reality?
>hatred for truth and reality
>thinks hormones are being given to children
>thinks big pharma is indoctrinating children
>thinks MRI scans of trans brains don't exist
>believes any /misc/ infographic he sees
>believes any claims ever made about trans people
>believes every conspiracy involving trannies automatically
>believes in the divine feminine
>believes it is all the work of DA JOOOS
>believes John Money invented gender
>believes leftists aren't people
>believes children are receiving surgery
>believes anyone who disagrees with him should be put to death
I mean jesus christ
take your meds, this is a genuinely concerning level of mental illness
"No, no, it's impossible that I'M the crazy one! It must be everyone else!"
Bring back asylums.
16 years old is still a child by every metric
THEY WERE JUST 16 YOU SICK FRICK!!!
lmao frick off, I know exactly how every one of you is in the dicky and e-girl threads, like the good lil tradcons you are
apparently they're old enough to take wiener, but not hormones
yes, for people with troony derangement syndrome
imagine fricking your life up due to a 24/7 obsession with a fraction of a percent of the population
>Some older teens, yes, but only with parental permission and at a stage in life where they can fully understand the consequences of transitioning.
you should be locked up. i'm not kidding.
Sure bro let's ruin people's entire lives by mutilating them as children instead.
Definitely the utilitarian alternative, and definitely not ignoring the overwhelming evidence to suggest the whole transgender thing is a scam by private medical companies.
Private medical companies & fetishists. It's a baptist bootlegger coalition
>why?
because it's not feasible to hook every trans person up to an MRI machine, and forcing them to submit to medical experiments involuntarily is unethical and illegal
>why cant we just fully prove your theory?
the theory has been well supported already, trans people usually have a brain map somewhere between cis men and cis women.
>because it proves that a lot of trannies are lying?
that is what you dearly, truly want to believe, isn't it?
Hence why you should never be in charge of medical or scientific experiments
>because it's not feasible to hook every trans person up to an MRI machine, and forcing them to submit to medical experiments involuntarily is unethical and illegal
If an adult wants to overdose with HRT that's fine, but don't you think it could be useful doing a MRI on "trans children" to make sure they are actually trans before you hook them up with the pharma juice?
>overdose with HRT
at least pretend to know what you're talking about
> but don't you think it could be useful
oh yeah, of course forcing children to submit to experiments to advance medical science is a great idea, Dr. Mengele!
holy shit you don't even pretend to understand what "medical malpractice" means, just say whatever comes into you head because it sounds "useful"
>before you hook them up with the pharma juice?
again, at least pretend to know what you're talking about
this is just pathetic, you're parroting things you've heard through a grapevine to such an extent that your nightmare delusion isn't even close to reality anymore
>Yeah it would be hard to get an MRI one time along the many patient interactions they have....
yeah we should just force people to do medical procedures they may not want to do. You know, to prove their not subhuman filth that needs to be locked up
>Also the MRI thing is false. People should know that there was never a study on it.
UH OH! STINKY!
but who would expect a /misc/tard to not lie through their teeth to support their agenda? There's not an honest bone in their body!
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18761592/
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/05/180524112351.htm
drink some bleach please
>Even if it were true it wouldn't be a strong argument, brain MRIs aren't that great.
huh... you mean.... there's good reasons to not deny people medical coverage based on mandatory yet not totally understood new fields of study???
tell the rest of your /misc/tard friends
Your bait started great, but you overplayed your hand.
thank you for your concession
I know, when you got BTFO by saying that there were no MRI studies and then they got posted, that definitely stung the old ego a bit, didn't it?
Easier to say it's bait than admit you're fricking moronic
>don't you think it could be useful doing a MRI on "trans children" to make sure
jesus christ
least abusive transphobe, huh? lmao
>WADDYA MEAN IM NOT ALLOWED TO DO MEDICAL PROCEDURES ON UNWILLING CHILDREN TO SATISFY MY BIGOTRY? SOCIETY IS COLLAPSING!!
Why the frick are you acting like getting a MRI is such a big deal? And why you assume the kids would be unwilling? Are you trolling?
>how do you know the kid didn't like me molesting them?
>Why the frick are you acting like getting a MRI is such a big deal?
why are you acting like it's not dictionary definition malpractice to force all transgender people to undergo invasive medical procedures to "prove" they're trans? Especially when MRI scans are an inexact science?
>And why you assume the kids would be unwilling?
I don't assume all would be
I do assume some would be
which is why it should be a personal choice, and not a mandate from the government
why do you hate individual rights and liberties? Are you a fascist?
>why do you hate individual rights and liberties?
Why are you so for the exploitation of the mentally ill by big pharma? If you don't have legitimate dysphoria, you shouldn't be anywhere near a butcher's table.
We don't let people cut their own arms and legs off even though they want it.
>Why are you so for the exploitation of the mentally ill by big pharma?
explain how they are being exploited by big pharma, anon, because every time I hear this, it's based on a fundamentally moronic worldview
if I had to guess, you heard this on /misc/ and believed it without critically examining the claim in any way
it's also very telling of your position when you call them the mentally ill. Why do you think someone innately bigoted against people should be in charge of passing laws regarding their healthcare?
>If you don't have legitimate dysphoria
and how do you define legitimate dysphoria, and how will a brain scan be 100% accurate proof positive of legitimate dysphoria?
> you shouldn't be anywhere near a butcher's table.
TECHNICAL FOUL! GOALPOST MOVING! HORMONES TO SURGERY! ANON!
penalty: you look stupid
anyway, you didn't answer the question: why do you hate freedom of choice and individual liberties? Do you REALLY think the government should be allowed to mandate what type of treatments you must recieve?
Like say, the dreaded vaxx?
Instead of being given actual help they're encouraged to become freaks by the use of drugs and expensive surgery.
>why do you hate freedom of choice and individual liberties? Do you REALLY think the government should be allowed to mandate what type of treatments you must recieve?
Like say, the dreaded vaxx?
please stop dodging, disingenuous little shit
I explained how the mentlly ill are being exploited by big pharma.
I don't care about your red herring vaccine shit
>I don't care about your red herring vaccine shit
no, you avoid it because you know how disingenuous you would sound if you were saying
>MY BODY, MY CHOICE! GOVERNMENT CAN'T MANDATE MEDICAL PROCEDURES, IT'S ORWELLIAN!
about vaccines, while also saying
>WE NEED TO FORCE THROUGH LAWS SAYING ALL TRANNIES NEED TO GET BRAIN SCANS BEFORE THEY CAN GET HORMONES OR SURGERY!
and there's almost no way you don't feel that way about vaccines, and we know how you feel about brain scans already. So easier to just avoid the subject than admit you're a massive hypocrite who doesn't actually give a shit about individual rights and liberties in general, only your own.
are you moronic? By law every time you tske a medical procedure you need to properly use the diagnostic tools.
I live in europe. I can't get lasik just because I say I'm near sighted, they test it first.
Same goes for literally every other form of surgery.
why are you assuming people interested in bottom surgery would be against MRI?
also you didn't answer me about sample size. This reveals a malicious intent (both towards others and your body) in your arguments. You're afraid of being wrong.
this also express itself in your bigotry, and can't argue what is a medical issue beyond your limited american politics theatre
NTA but you come across as a schizophrenic. Address the point directly don't do this whataboutism nonsense
>explain how they are being exploited by big pharma,
Each troony is worth about a million bucks or so in America, that's a hell of a lot of profit. You don't think there's any way big pharma could be pushing unnecessary procedures?
>mentally ill
They're mentally ill. You can call a fork a spoon all you want, everyone knows that men are men and that reclassifying something "so nobody gets their feefees hurt" is moronic.
>how will a brain scan be 100% accurate proof positive of legitimate dysphoria?
You're the one who said it was proof. After all, in your mind anyone with legitimate dysphoria has a brain scan that looks more like a woman's than a man's, right?
>HORMONES TO SURGERY!
Surgery is the basically the second step for FtM, you've got to get those breasts cut off to pass. And going on hormones is WORSE than surgery in some aspects. None of these procedures are reversible past a very early stage.
>Each troony is worth about a million bucks or so in America
bottom surgery costs between $10,000 and $25,000, and very little of that is going to big pharma. Generally trans people also travel overseas to get the procedure done because it's both cheaper and safer with Korean or Indian doctors than American ones.
top surgery is literally just a mastectomy or boobjob, some of the cheapest surgeries available, usually around $4,000. Again, pharma makes virtually nothing on this
hormones are a generic medication that costs nearly nothing, especially compared to the top earners for big pharma like cancer drugs and painkillers
you know nothing about what you're talking about
you're a fricking clown
>You're the one who said it was proof
no, I specifically didn't. Another anon said that MRI scan studies support the idea that trans people's brains function more like their desired gender than their assigned.
That does not mean it's an exact science, that means that in aggregate, the data from MRIs suggests trans people are really experiencing something and not just making it up
so, using it as an exact science to attempt to weed out fake trannies shows how little you understand the science you're trying to talk so authoritatively about
but we already knew that when you highballed the cost of being trans by roughly $950,000, didn't we?
>bottom surgery costs between $10,000 and $25,000
hell get yourself a pair of garden shears and do it for free!
>get BTFO
>make a "witty" joke rather gthan acknowledge how hilariously wrong you are
every time
not an honest bone in the body
i'm a different anon, i'm just very supportive of you cutting off your own dick
>exploiting someone who could have lived a life without needing any of that is not profitable
>it costs $1,000,000!
>it doesn't you fricking moron, it's dirt cheap
>w-well but that's still unnecessary expense, so it still makes sense that big pharma is engaging in a massive conspiracy to indoctrinate children!
see how it trots back every time
never an honest moment
>w-w-w-well but all those other costs that I also haven't calculated probably add up to like totally a million dollars over the course of a lifetime!
follow-ups in an entire lifetime nearly never exceed $75,000
medications like... the generic estrogen and testosterones bought from India that in no way contributes to big pharma's bottom line and costs nearly nothing?
why is it so hard to admit you pulled a number out your ass and aren't as informed on this issue as you think you are? Why must you always be a weasel, trying to cover your ignorance with new bullshit you didn't properly research?
the fricking gish gallop, smfh
why do you want to cut off children's dicks so badly if it's not about the money?
I didn't say it costs a million. I said it's profitable to brainwash someone into thinking he needs to look like opposite sex. I am being honest here, you should try it too.
You're forgetting the lifetime costs of therapy and medication, follow up surgeries, you think some troon is going to pay 40k for a few surgeries and then happily live out the next 70 years? Absolute delusion, I hope you have a nice day quickly rather than lining someone else's pockets.
>bottom surgery costs between $10,000 and $25,000
cool now times that by 1.4 million, the estimated number of trans people in the US
and this money is getting paid to big pharma?
... do you know what "big pharma" means, my low IQ friend?
Also, do you understand the market valuation of these "big pharma" companies?
oh shit man, they're definitely planning a massive conspiracy costing billions of dollars, bribing other companies and creating media campaigns and paying off politicians for that sweet, sweet... chump change.
Huh
This is all assuming big pharma is getting paid money for surgery, which is nonsense
didn't really think this one through, did you?
>REEEEEE STOP QUESTIONING THE NARRATIVE
I accept your concession
>I didn't say it cost a million
other very smart /misc/tard did, then
>Each troony is worth about a million bucks or so in America, that's a hell of a lot of profit. You don't think there's any way big pharma could be pushing unnecessary procedures?
you really expose yourselves as being thoroughly uninformed about this every time you post. And pretty stupid, if you're going to lie, come up with a better lie than something a child would say
>yeah it's worth so much money it's like an even, round million dollars to exploit someone! I definitely did the math!
STOP QUESTIONING THE NARRATIVE
what?
just stay away from kids you fricking freak.
>no argument
yeah I know, it really hurts to get BTFO doesn't it?
you're forced to resort to buzzword spam
but what else could one expect from a low IQ /misc/tard? It's not like you have an argument anyway, just saying
>it's a big conspiracy maaaaaan trannies are exploited for a million dollaridos maaaaan
stop raping kids.
I don't care about what "very smart poltards" say. Can you face the point already?
I made my point: this thread is full of morons who know jack shit about even the basics of trans healthcare and medical costs, and yet still think they get the right to be armchair critics confidently spouting bullshit everywhere
collective you anon, collective you
I think I've got about 5 different /misc/tards replying about maybe 2 with a brain
see
, just complete seethe at this point because they got called out for know nothing
Facts don't care about your feelings, you'll never become a woman.
>devolving into insult circlejerk
you know that when they're mad
please, do tell me how you feel about mandatory vaccines, never gotten a clear answer on that. Should the government be allowed to force people to undergo medical procedures?
don't reply to me you fricking pedophile
They're all degenerates anon, a troony in the last thread about this movie just posted his fantasy about wanting me to transition so he could frick me in the ass
ok but seriously, how do you feel and mandatory vaccines? Should the government be allowed to force people to undergo medical procedures they personally object to?
fricking thank you, at least someone isn't a weasel
that's all
though I do question why you want decades of trials, given that's not really going to allow for effective vaccines. They usually need to be done within a year of the strain hitting, like in the case of the flu vaccine
I don't know why you are so hang up about vaccines. I don't care, do whatever
>ok but seriously, how do you feel and mandatory vaccines? Should the government be allowed to force people to undergo medical procedures they personally object to?
No and no.
>They usually need to be done within a year of the strain hitting, like in the case of the flu vaccine
Flu vaccines contain an inactive/dead version of the virus, COVID isn't deadly and worldwide governments were making these "vaccines" based on mRNA technology MANDATORY for a virus with a 99.97% survival rate. You didn't see them do that with the flu.
>Should people be legally forced to do things by an elected government
yes ofcorse i want to live in the soviet union
fricking idiot.
>accusing others of being a boogeyman and dragging them into his delusional little rant
Sad.
Yes. I'm in favour of mandatory vaccines, if they a) prevent a serious danger to the community b) the vaccine is proven after decades of trials to prevent the disease they're for, using ample size, double blind falsificable test c) b) the vaccine is proven after decades of trials to bebsafe they're for, using ample size, double blind falsificable test
most vaccines went under this procedure, covid vaccines didn't.
You're not "winning" anything by arguing through strawmen.
>covid vaccines
They're not even actual vaccines by definition, they're based on experimental mRNA technology. Actual vaccines contain a dead/inactive version of a virus.
>he still didn't reply to me
I feel very, very sorry for you
i don't, he wants to cut kids dicks off
Again, it is very simple. Transition always makes someone money, it is never free. You can argue all day how much, but still it doesn't change the fact that transgenderism is profitable business and more people falling for it means more profit.
see
and again, I struggle to take you guys seriously when you apparently genuinely came into this thread thinking that being a troony in America cost 1 million dollars and involves a lifetime of treatment.
Makes it seem like most of you are talking out your ass
There is an extreme growth in "trans" population and we are supposed to pretend it's all natural and nobody is making money out of it?
>collective you anon, collective you
/misc/ has rotted your brain, living rent free in there, it seems. If anyone that disagrees with you is /misc/ then gender dysphoria isn't the only mental issue you have.
I never made the big pharma claim, I'm just pointing out that you're moronic if you don't think trannies are getting milked by the medical industry. This may be difficult for you to process but Cinemaphile allows for multiple people to respond anonymously.
>milked
see there again is the issue: everything in America costs $$$, the important question is "relative to what?"
why are you so hung up on trannies specifically, when cancer patients for example are far more common than trannies, get far more expensive and experimental drugs and treatments that work far less of the time and often contain literal poisons?
it just seems weird to me to say
>there's a medical conspiracy revolving around milking trannies
with the implication that kids are being indoctrinated to make money off of them, when it makes far more sense for big pharma to support peeling back legislations against carcinogens, because that's an actually lucrative money-maker for them.
Trannies, in comparison, are a tiny minority getting relatively cheap treatment once, and then never again. Cancer lasts forever, and the drugs are serious money-makers. And hey, if your new experimental drug turns out to actually kill people instead of helping them? Who cares, most of them will be dead in 5 years anyway
I'm not American and I don't approve of America's medical industry overcharging for care and medicine. The biggest offender as I understand it is insulin. I don't find that 'worse than trans treatments', that's some bullshit you've made up and projected onto me. What I am saying is that for an invented problem that didn't exist until the theory for it was dreamed up a few decades ago, mentally vulnerable people are getting rinsed for money and having their lives destroyed. You have no counter for this. It is unjustifiably evil and you're moronic for even trying to defend it 'from the chuds'.
>What I am saying is that for an invented problem that didn't exist
well except for all those people who, inconveniently for your narrative, did exist before a few decades ago...
again, not really helping your case if you're trying to present yourself as a sane voice of reason who knows all about this problem
on this alone I'm tossing your argument, you're concern trolling the idea of troonyism being somehow a new idea, when it's existed in every culture for at least a thousand years in the historical record.
The concept of gender being applicable to human beings and not just a grammatical distinction in certain languages, which enables the theory that someone can have the 'wrong gender' didn't exist until the 1960s you disingenuous shitter. People have had same-sex attraction and cross-dressed since the dawn of civilisation, true, but that is not the same thing and never mandated life destroying medical procedures costing tens of thousands of dollars.
>relatively cheap treatment once, and then never again.
Hormone treatment alone is for the rest of the life. You are lying maggot.
we're talking surgeries, anon
context, I know it's hard
anyway, as mentioned, the hormones are dirt cheap and generics big pharma isn't making shift off Dr. Gupta's mail-order horsepiss estrogen
> didn't exist until the 1960s you disingenuous shitter.
but it did though, you historically illiterate moron
the male priestesses of Artemis drank pregnant mare piss as a way to get estrogen. Female warriors in a number of cultures ate herb mixtures that boosted testosterone and suppressed estrogen production. Elagabalus offered a fortune to any surgeon who could make him into a woman. A number of Chinese emperors voluntarily turned themselves into eunuchs and took male lovers.
there are tons of examples of gender-affirming surgery prior to the 60's, though bottom surgery wasn't generally done because medicine hadn't advanced far enough yet
this is ooga booga tier, improvements in medical science allowing for new treatments to old problems don't mean those treatments are scams.
Again, this all just affirms that most people with passionate feelings against trannies don't know anything about trannies. Maybe stop gobbling propaganda and do your own research, eh?
Yeah it would be hard to get an MRI one time along the many patient interactions they have....
lmao
Also the MRI thing is false. People should know that there was never a study on it. One person claimed it was true and people ran with it. Even if it were true it wouldn't be a strong argument, brain MRIs aren't that great. Nor does it mean that there aren't valid treatments otherwise, or does it act as evidence trans people have an inherent brain wiring problem.
If anything, it's more likely they start to act like women, and their brains have to adjust in some way (greater passivity etc)
>giving a person an MRI is too much medical practice
this is the level of scientific and medical rigor of troonys lol
you are full of shit if I have cancer or something serious I am force to take those hard medical exams or die, in medicine they don't just go
>lol go a get chemo, lets skip the bullshit process and hook you in a life altering process
But it's ethical and legal to mutilate their bodies, give them brain damaging drugs and lie to them?
>The brain and body develope at different times. If the body developes under the influence of testosterone and the brain under estrogen, then you're probably going to end up with a trans woman.
then the answer is
woman, a fetus that had a brain develop under estrogen
You leftist c**ts should be strung up
Julia Serano is an AGP and Whipping Girl is a load of misogynist nonsense, not worth the paper it's printed on. The largest meta study on brain shape has shown the only functional difference between male and female brains is down to the difference in skull size. A man and a woman with the same sized skull will effectively have the same brain. The idea of the sexed brain is pseudoscientific nonsense and no more than modern day phrenology
lol men are women dont think the same way and that has been known for as long as there's been humanity
John Money was a pedophile rapist and should be disregarded for his failed theories.
Agreed. John Money was a hack who tortured two cis boys into suicide with his terrible theories. You can't force someone to be the opposite of their subconscious sex, whether that person is cis or trans. A trans person who is forced to act like they're cis is going to rope unless allowed to transition.
What does acting "cis" even mean?
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/cis-
See: Cis-Apline Gaul vs Trans-Alpine Gaul from De Bello Gallico by Julius Caesar.
Quality bait. Bravo.
I certainly stirred up the hive. I'm gainfully employed so I can't respond to all of these lol. Anyway, happy Pride Month!
I don't know if this is true. Most trannies are autistic, or at least i would say autistic people are FAR more likely to become trans than usual. However, they usually say autism is the result of being extremely "male-brained", and autists tend to have been exposed to higher levels of prenatal testosterone at least.
>A man who gets into an accident and loses his genitals is still a man. A woman with a hysterectomy is still a woman.
yes, just as a transwoman who gets his wiener chopped is still a man - you are the sex you were born and developed as no matter what happens to you or what you do to yourself.
>There also exist interesex conditions such as androgen insensitivity syndrome that can result in someone with XY chromosomes becoming female.
CAIS is an extremely specific disorder that interferes with sex development from the time that the individual in question is in utero which results in a genetic male being phenotypically female. their female development can't be changed or reversed, much in the same way that your average, non-disordered male's sex cannot be changed. but anyway, disorders of sex development are genetic mutations and not sexes in their own right. biological sex evolved for the purpose of sexual reproduction and intersex disorders don't facilitate that, they interfere with it.
>The current explanation for trans people is the idea of "subconscious sex" which is a function of the brain and can be wholly divorced from the body. 99% of the time, subconscious sex and physical sex are congruent, but occasionally they misalign.
complete woo-woo pseudoscience. dunking the brain in an artificial hormone soup until it adapts does not override male physiology. have a nice day btw.
>women
>loyal
Came on Cinemaphile to try and find a new show to check out and Iv already seen 3 troony threads, it's cause trannies don't work just collect welfare and spend all their time trying to become moderators and jannies for every site they possibly can so they can spread their poopwound infested bullshit
Holy shit based africans BTFO trannies
>There's something wrong with them
>We have never seen those
>laughs at women with a penis
>man cannot deliver baby without vegana
If you disagree with them you're racist.
These kangs are not ameriBlack folk
Holy shit an even more based take
>Trannies are not God's plan
Those guys were the first truly chill people in the documentary. They answer every question and never get mad at him for asking.
A friend of mine has a tomboy girlfriend. She is like 28 years old. Doesn't wear make up very often, doesn't wear tight clothes because she is very skinny and her body just doesn't help to look good on that type of outfit, has short hair, when she talks she sounds like a teenager boy, etc. Does that mean she is not a woman? No.
There is more than clothes, make up and hormones. People that transition will never understand.
And I bet if you ask a troony what does it mean to be a woman they wont know what to answer.
>And I bet if you ask a troony what does it mean to be a woman they wont know what to answer.
Because they have no frame of reference, since it's not their experience, so it ends up boiling down to ridiculous sexist stereotypes. It's like asking a blind person to explain the colour red to you, they won't know, since they've never experienced it, so they'll have to fall back on the stereotypical description they've been given "Red is heat, red is blood". But none of that will mean anything to them, since they'll not be able to picture what red actually is. "A woman is when dress go spinny", spot the difference
>that dad that got fined 30,000
what the frick happens if the kid reverses their mind in a few years? does the dad get his money back? what the frick happens when inevitably someone realizes they made the wrong choice because they had no idea what they were doing
Then at least the father has a clean conscience.
>what the frick happens if the kid reverses their mind in a few years?
The mother and Canadian govt will sue the kid for transphobia obviously.
>wall of text
it's not that deep
Everyone involved with giving kids hormones and surgery should be shot.
It's intellectually dishonest.
Where can I watch this?
atleast they sterilize themselves, thank frick.
I thought it was bait at first, but it seems that there really is a troony in this thread, that got so butthurt about a documentary, that came on Cinemaphile to btfo the chudcels that make fun of the trannerinos
Anyone who thinks there isn't a big profit motive in pushing gender ideology is a moron
anyone who is pushing a narrative that trannies are worth $1,000,000 in exploitation hasn't even read their own propaganda properly, clearly
why are /misc/tards so moronic?
I never said they were worth $1m, someone else did. But regardless, $150k a customer is a shitload of money and gives plenty of reason to further expand the potential base through grooming in schools as is currently being done. The max troony population prior to this point has always been estimated to be about 0.5% of the population and that's what the $200 billion estimate is based on. Right now, 2% of zoomers call themselves transgender and that will only continue to grow if left unchallenged. Do you honestly believe that medical companies are looking at what is happening and not salivating?
>2 trannies actually
wow
and you're losing
sad!
so, where's that $1,000,000 coming from?
And you still haven't actually addressed how you feel about the government mandating body autonomy actually. Should they be able to force you to get the vaxx?
>and you're losing
Losing what exactly, i've never replied to you 'till now. This is beyond sad and a trolling attempt, you look genuinely pathetic.
YWNBAW
the deletions have begun
Kek jannies deleted the other thread even though it was at bump limit. Fricking homosexuals.
a miserable pile of secrets
new thread