I will win because of my speed is superior
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And he did. He only lost because got wienery and dropped his range advantage.
>he did win
>He only lost because
???
I'm getting mixed messages here. Did he win or lose? It's not that hard to decide
He won the duel but lost the fight
They both died
he was winning until he lost
It's hard for brainlets to think with nuance. You were implying not that he lost the fight because he just "lost", you were implying that he lost the fight because he erroneously thought he would win because of his speed advantage. While he did ultimately lose the fight, he lost because he got arrogant, and up until the moment he got arrogant and relaxed - he was in fact winning the fight because of his speed and agility.
>I was winning until I lost, making me the victor!
Dexgays will literally write Bible length excuses before they admit they lost
Dexgays? What's a Dexgay? I just watched the tv show, I couldn't give a frick about your fantasy fricking franchise you nerd.
fricking eviscerated
Based Mountaingays literally as dumb as their hero
>My head is crushed,making me the victor!
The size of his brain after being crushed by the mountain
>And he did
Without his poison, that homosexual would be completely crushed by sir Gregor.
He cut fat boy's knees and put a spear through his chest while fattie was helpless on the floor.. If the dornishman had just waited after that he would have won, but fat fraud Martin has to had le shock moments for he is a true moron.
The moment he hamstrung him he won. You try fighting and moving on one leg against a guy who is faster, more agile, and uses a spear.
The poison didn't take effect until after the fight. Clegane lost because he's a shitty duelist that relies exclusively on his massive size and brute strength. Oberyn was talented but he would have been eviscerated by other more experienced fighters of note (e.g. Selmy, Jaime)
Nah, Oberyn would have killed Selmy and Jaime too. It was only him stalling the final blow so he could challenge Tywin that caused any issue.
Oberyn would have gotten rocked by either of the two of them, they're the best duelists in Westeros alive. Oberyn is just a guy that likes to fight and the Mountain happens to be a shitty duelist
Oberyn is good but he's not Jaime Lannister good. There's a very real chance Oberyn would take Jaime with him due to poison, but there's no way Jaime doesn't chop him into mince meat.
shame the show never actually showed how skilled Jamie was before losing his hand
only the end result matters. at the end of the day he died and gregor survived until the last episode. this is all that matters everything else is just big if's and made up scenarios.
Gregor dies from it. He is a zombie.
>zombie
you arent even trying here
I mean the guy died and his corpse was reanimated. He's effectively a zombie, dipshit.
Is a Frankenstain a zombie?
No, he's a doctor.
To be fair, his only real goal was to get Gregor to admit to the murders, which he accomplished. His ultimate aim was to push Dorne into rebellion and his death furthered that, too.
>which is better X or Y?
>X is better but not when Z matters
>so Y is better, got it
>I could have won
>but I chose not to
Ultimate cope. You either challenge them to a rematch or move on
Irl big guys like this, of trained in fighting are just as fast. I get that Oberyns whole shtick is that he's super fast but it's annoying in media how they always portray big homies as slow.
This. We (as viewers) are just addicted to david/goliath scenarios and the writers decided to subvert expectations.
Real life is a lot simpler : big kills small.
Just as fast but lacking in stamina.
Big Bob Sapp, for example. Even when he actually tried, he was a staminalet because that much muscle is hard to move.
Sure but he is wearing heavy armor and swinging his huge sword around trying to hit a enemy that's keeping him out of range. Even if you're a big guy or especially because of it you're going to tire out quick if you're just swinging and missing over and over in heavy armor.
In the book The Mountain is also portrayed as fast. I'm sure Bronn mentions it about how ungodly strong he is wearing so much plate armor and having as much stamina as he does but on top of it he can be spookily fast as well, but some other people mention it too I think at Harrenhal because I remember some line about how he should be the type of person that you'd hear coming a mile away but he could be at Tywin's side eerily fast and silently.
This is true but only to an extent and it depends on where the muscle is. Muscle is more weight, if you build up explosive power in your legs you are much faster with less weight in addition to those legs. There is no bodybuilder weighing 300+lbs that is going to be outsprinting someone who is 200lbs and built for that movement. In addition, Thor along with a lot of other guys like him are much, much bigger than the average person, and they are indeed slower. They need a frickton more energy to move around, and their bodies are not well-made for running long distances. I absolutely guarantee Thor would struggle to run longer than a few miles regardless of what shape he is in.
Making you wienery is one way the speed betrays you. You can’t have one without the other
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He beat him then got character assassinated for le shock
Bro hasn’t read the books
The books in a ways are shock jock porn and are garbage, first two books entertained for a while but when I realized Troll R R Martin was Slob a souless writer, a blood sucker on the grave of Tolkien and just making everything in LOTR more innapropriate, nihilist, rapey, torture and degenerate...I tried the show for a while and this is also near the point I quit watching. Both actors did a great show but the foundation of the show comes from a fat sleazy writer so is mostly gorey and rapist and shallow at the same time. In the books Gregor Clegane The Mountain is even more horrific brutal and rapey Gregor in the books is on Arya Stark's prayer kill list but I have no intention of reading anymore but I actually got bored with the whole GoT while LOTR continues to have a message or meaning in a strange way
He won in the end. The Mountain got turned into a zombie and Tywin died literally the next day. Two birds with one stone.
Lol sure thing
If he killed The Mountain, Tywin would still be alive because Tyrion would be a free man. Tywin is the real target, not his pet
Clegane's hand shot up and grabbed the Dornishman behind the knee. The Red Viper brought down the greatsword in a wild slash, but he was off-balance, and the edge did no more than put another dent in the Mountain's vambrace. Then the sword was forgotten as Gregor's hand tightened and twisted, yanking the Dornishman down on top of him. They wrestled in the dust and blood, the broken spear wobbling back and forth. Tyrion saw with horror that the Mountain had wrapped one huge arm around the prince, drawing him tight against his chest, like a lover.
"Elia of Dorne," they all heard Ser Gregor say, when they were close enough to kiss. His deep voice boomed within the helm. "I killed her screaming whelp." He thrust his free hand into Oberyn's unprotected face, pushing steel fingers into his eyes. "Then I raped her." Clegane slammed his fist into the Dornishman's mouth, making splinters of his teeth. "Then I smashed her fricking head in. Like this." As he drew back his huge fist, the blood on his gauntlet seemed to smoke in the cold dawn air. There was a sickening crunch. Ellaria Sand wailed in terror, and Tyrion's breakfast came boiling back up. He found himself on his knees retching bacon and sausage and applecakes, and that double helping of fried eggs cooked up with onions and fiery Dornish peppers.
>He found himself on his knees retching bacon and sausage and applecakes, and that double helping of fried eggs cooked up with onions and fiery Dornish peppers.
GRRM: hmmmm this is a serious moment but i'm hungry
to be fair, this one time the food aside is justified because the day starts off with Tyrion being in a good mood (confident Oberyb will get him off) and having a nice full breakfast, as opposed to the previous days when he ate next to nothing
>bacon and sausage and applecakes, and that double helping of fried eggs cooked up with onions and fiery Dornish peppers.
this ruins the whole scene, why the frick would you go into so much detail when something so dramatic just happened
peak Cinemaphile
>i even kill puppies... Muhahaha!!!! I am EVIL
wow this is great writing mr martin
But that is the mountain he’s literally just a pure psychotic killing machine
thats fricking twisted dude!
>no you can’t have one character out of dozens that has a straight forward evil characterization !!!
Does everything have to be a shade of grey with you gay boy? The mountain isn’t a main character he’s literally in the story like a lurking monster and is only used t be a threat and killing machine
i had no idea bro... that's even more fricking twisted! he's a crazy psycho killing machine !
You’re not even offering a criticism you are just being gay.
Kys
His whole role in the story is that he's just a brainless attack dog. His family crest is attack dogs. His little brother is called the hound. He literally has subhuman intelligence, is in pain from being a mutant, and just wants to take that pain out on others, and the actual characters point him where it's useful to them.
>Tyrion saw with horror that the Mountain had wrapped one huge arm around the prince, drawing him tight against his chest, like a lover.
I could've sworn I thought he was smashing Red Vipers head into something.
>He found himself on his knees retching bacon and sausage and applecakes, and that double helping of fried eggs cooked up with onions and fiery Dornish peppers.
A succulent meal? A succulent Chinese meal???
>blatant product placement for the Dennys Game of Thrones tiein menu collab
BAKA
>Then I raped her. Like this.
Holy shit GRRM
>uhhh this raping has gone on for a long while...are we just gonna keep watching this?
>The trial hasn't concluded. Oberyn is thoroughly bloodied, raped, and likely can no longer walk, but the trial must continue until the Gods decide justice.
Sunset found him squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up, he was shitting brown water. The more he drank the more he shat, but the more he shat, the thirstier he grew
i laughed like a buffoon
>being killed by the guy who raped your sister
The Mountain has ultimate ownership of the Martells
That last paragraph is such fat guy writing. Gurrm does this all the time.
He goes into very detailed food descriptions it is sort of his thing. Out of context it’s kid of weird but he’s very good world-building and focuses on sometimes weird details in clothing, food, decor in his descriptions that actually do a really great job of painting mental pictures for the reader.
The issue with Martin is that his plots meander and he lives to set up threads and intrigues that I have no idea will ever be brought back together coherently or satisfyingly. In that way he’s like the guys who wrote lost
It’s very clear that he invented this cool setting in his head and had the first 3/4 books well planned and now he doesn’t have any idea what to do with the rest of the story or how to bring it all home
Why do fantasy writers always waste so much fricking page space describing food? I feel like every fantasy writer does this
I remember being in high school reading the colors of chaos and wondering why the frick I'm reading about the thickness and taste of noodles and what else is on the plate with them and the type of juice he's having with it
I started reading this random less known guy Sever Bronny and he does the same exact thing.
Well, in Martin's case, he's fricking fat.
Clearly Red Viper won
wtf is the last sentence
what a disgusting fat slob
What was the Mountain's rape policy?
He is big into CNC.
He consents to you not consenting.
The Mountain was such a fricking chad that he didn't even die when he got killed.
This is the type of death daemon should have got if George had any balls
I wonder what The Mountain had for breakfast.
I wonder how George RR Martin would feel if he didn't eat breakfast today.
I believe that it would be extremely painful.
he could win but he was a wienery moron, that's why he lost.
>tattoos
Dropped
lol look at mountain feet
they're both tippy toeing
who would win in an actual fight? Obviously Tyson Fury is an elite boxer, but in an actual fight could The Mountain just rush him and slam him on the ground?
Tyson. and no, Hafthor has zero experience in any sort of wrestling or grappling
>but in an actual fight could The Mountain just rush him and slam him on the ground?
Yes, unless Fury got lucky and knocked him out in one punch. It doesn't matter what level of wrestling skills Björnsson has, he's that much bigger and stronger.
Fury hits really hard and fast. With guys that size and power the big slow guy is in way more danger than the standard bodybuilder vs mma twink debate. One big hit from a 260lb heavyweight and you're done.
Fury would win 100%.
He is faster than he looks and has good footwork when it matters.
He'd circle around constantly and batter Halfthor down.
Wilder was more dangerous than Halfthor.
PRIDE already did this shit 20 years ago.
Sapp had a bigger size advantage here than Halfthor has over Fury.
Just being a big strong fricker doesn't get you much without training.
idk what video you watched. Big Nog clearly has the size advantage here
Hafthor got beat by a tiny Conor McGregor, mostly because Hafthors stamina is complete shit and after 3 minutes he's completely exhausted and can barely stand. Boxers like Fury have insane stamina so as long as Hafthor didn't knock Fury out (which he wouldn't), Fury would beat him after a couple of minutes
The McGregor thing was light sparring at best
Tyson Fury is one of the best heavyweight kings of all time, he'd starch him in no time flat
Wtf, why is he on his toes?
Using a spear seems like cheating
just use a bow lmao
Or just bring 300 daggers and run around throwing them at him kek. Surely there were rules for trial by combat
>you choose a bow and he picks a shield
>he just keeps it raised till you run out of arrows or run out of room to kite him
>you throw a knife at him
>he picks it up off the ground after it bounces off his armor
>he stabs you with it because you're too slow to get away while carrying 299 other knives
no shield is that good. Good luck running around with some giant scutum trying to cover your whole body and getting tired as frick while I just wait you out
He can just run at you while you're drawing, or tank hits because you can't pierce his armour.
technically he did win but got too wienery
Once the mountain had a proper grip on him, anything he did to fight back was about as useful as nipples on a breastplate
>get sentenced to death
>Demand two other guys fight to prove whether or not you did the thing
>Best spear fighter in the world just happens to be in town and hold a personal grudge against the champion
>Defeats the champion but gets head crushed during an argument about rape after the fight
>This proves the gods have found you guilty of doing the thing
Are you fricking kidding me Tolkien?
laws are memes, fate is all. The sodomite Oberyn, the psychopathic Mountain and Tywin all died and the innocent man (in this case) got off easy
Name a more kino trope than the uneven fight.
>trope
you WILL respect the old testament
Still a trope.
ESL moron
What was he thinking??
>at least I'm getting off this story before it turns into absolute shit
>I sure hope my lover and daughters murder the only trueborn family i have left
dude had poison in his blades and was fresher than clegane, in peak form for his planned vendetta.
Every WWE match is like this.
One guy starts winning then he gets wienery and the other guy smacks him from behind.
Bravo D&D, almost as good as Monday Night Raw.
Viper should've hulked up he would've won
I miss game of thrones bros. I miss it.
I was there, Oberyn
It was so beautiful that day
>fight to the death
>both combatants kill each other
>"I declare that guy on the right the winner"
how is that fair
is the guy on the left gonna be ok?
>The final actor for the Mountain is the shortest guy who played him
Pic-related was the only man fit for the job.
Apparently he was the same height as the second Mountain. Seeing that guy stand next to Tywin was pretty cool.
Ian is a good physical actor too, shame they only gave him a short standing/speaking spot.