30th issue had ponies in it, thats why OP couldnt post it.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>issue
meant page
9 months ago
Anonymous
Huh? Is the horse show so against the rule you can't even post an page that is part of a storytime?
Damn... I could understand a crossover, but a page?
9 months ago
Anonymous
The show got its own board, that's how against the rules it is.
9 months ago
Anonymous
But, that was my point. This is not the horse show, it's Sonic.
Is posting a page that includes a reference to the show (or has a cameo of the cast) during a storytime thread such a deletable and bannable offense no one is willing to risk it?
If so, I'm honestly surprised it reached such extremes. Does a single horse show post outside its containment board summons a horde or what?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Its mostly avoid that guy from showing up, its not because of the rules.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I see, so it was kind of the latter.
Thanks for the explanation, anon.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Fricking zoomers I can't stand how useless lurking is for this site now
MLP is a bannable offense because 10 years ago when it was new it spawned the term "bronies" because autistic horny men spammed porn of it on all boards until moot globally banned MLP outside of the containment board created to get rid of the spam. It was back in a time mods and admins cared to actually moderate the site of spam and shitposting unlike today where it mostly runs rampet. That said posting anything with a pony will get their post deleted since it still against site rules to post anything containing a MLP character, even on red boards. It's either stays on /mlp/ or /trash/, no where else is allowed.
Hope that explains the situation. The only way OP could have still posted it is if he censored out the pony or just link from an external link, but even sometimes that's not allowed in extreme cases of jannies being trigger happy.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I mean, I was aware of why the containment was created, that's why I wouldn't have questioned it if the comic story had been a crossover.
What I didn't know is how extreme the situation still is.
But, thinking back, it also explains why I have never come across not even a meme reaction in this board.
Thanks anon.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Also posting anything horse-related will cause people to spam the thread with Barneygay pastas.
9 months ago
Anonymous
The board is basically dead though
9 months ago
Anonymous
Oh man you have no idea how dedicated mods were to this stuff, they even banned other series that took loose inspiration from MLP, mind you nobody was ever going to actually watch filly funtasia.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Kind of curious now. Is there anywhere we can actually see what the missing page is?
9 months ago
Anonymous
You can check the 30th page here guys
https://grabber.zone/comics/sonic-idw/2022-202x-current-saga/sonic-the-hedgehog-63/
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Favorite Sonic character in the IDW books? >Shadow and Amy
I smell a shipper
9 months ago
Anonymous
>that dinner date choice
She want rouges bigger boobs it seems.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Only Starline has an X
He is not coming back, isn't he?
9 months ago
Anonymous
HAHA SEE I DID THE REFERENCE
Potto please stop writing Silver like this. It got really boring with him acting suspicious of everyone back when you first did the plotline because everybody knew the betrayers were Geoffrey and Sally-via-roboticization.
9 months ago
Anonymous
This seems a little on-the-nose, don't you think?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Potto can't write anymore. He can only make references.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Do the writers know what spergery they've unleashed with those last two panels?
9 months ago
Anonymous
You don't have a girl blush at holding a boy's hands without knowing.
9 months ago
Anonymous
True dat
9 months ago
Anonymous
B-but she's supposed to like girls! Not b-boys!!
9 months ago
Anonymous
>one single panel of her maybe sorta liking Silver
vs >one billion panels of her adoring Tangle and calling her the reason to live
9 months ago
Anonymous
To think that the former was enough to create a whole sect of SilverxWhisper shippers
9 months ago
Anonymous
There are no genuine Whisper x Silver shippers. There are only anti Whisper x Tangle shippers.
9 months ago
Anonymous
This is the Sonic fandom we are talking about. Of course there are some that ship them
9 months ago
Anonymous
Ian said they're just friends
9 months ago
Anonymous
Lol no. What planet do you live on? He writes tons of fanfiction of them dating and getting married.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You do know the anon is just baiting, right?
9 months ago
Anonymous
she can like both
all they need to do is convince blaze and tangle and they'll have a happy polycule <3
9 months ago
Anonymous
>convince blaze
We just saw her lust for the blue blur.
>Amy got cucked by a princess again.
Why does this keep happening, Amybros?
>Sally >Elise >now Blaze
Sonic's princess fetish is just too strong.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Speaking of, has Sonic committed any War Crimes? Apparently you need those to marry Blaze.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Drowned a few kids who pledged their allegiance Eggman a little bit after was he released from the Death Egg in Forces.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Boco probably fainted and was rushed to a hospital
9 months ago
Anonymous
Hope he doesn't make it.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Oh boy...
Very cute though
9 months ago
Anonymous
I will now buy your comic
9 months ago
Anonymous
ha I won't even lie and say that this made me quite happy, not gonna act like it's suddenly canon since not deluded but I'll take any moments with them can get
9 months ago
Anonymous
I guess there gonna be drama then.. in the future heh.
9 months ago
Boco
Hey Amy, ya know what you and last week's garbage have in common?
You both got DUMPED!
9 months ago
Anonymous
Ho yeah
9 months ago
Anonymous
Funny enough the only canon pairing of Amy is a lesbian one in StC.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Please do not provoke Sonaze fans. They're insufferable.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Name one ship sext that isn't.
I'm in the Sonamy clique and even I have to admit they're unbearable, on top of being so terrified of sex that they shun people who even muse at the idea of Sonic fricking Amy.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Most Rouge ships are pretty chill aside from Knuxouge who are forever tainted by the guy who threw his Mom.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Knuxouge who are forever tainted by the guy who threw his Mom.
I have no idea what you're talking about, but maybe I'm better off not knowing.
I'm a Rails and whatever the shorthand for Knuckles and Sticks is guy myself.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>unironically, even proudly, declaring oneself a Railsgay
9 months ago
Anonymous
All ships are chill, the problem is when the hardcore shippers come into play, then all ships turn into poison, no matter which.
If they are not fighting over which character loves who, they are spawning threads with porn, or doing mental gymnastics to justify why their ship is canon (when it's not)
9 months ago
Anonymous
All ships are a problem because what kind of fricking person in their right mind would ever say they 'ship' characters. Like that's not even a red flag you're a straight moron.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, but... that's real world talking, it does not fit a Sonic related thread.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Would you look at that? An example, right on schedule
[...]
9 months ago
Boco
Nice...
9 months ago
Anonymous
And here I thought you actually ended in the hospital and that's why you haven't posted
And, before I forget: shut up, boco!
9 months ago
Anonymous
i can't believe they called back to the character tapping easter egg
9 months ago
Anonymous
sonazechads we can't stop winning
9 months ago
Anonymous
this makes me happy , you know sonazegays are celebrating like they just won the biggest things in their lives
i bet they are already being antagonistic to sonamy or silvaze gays.
Literally Sonally but even worse this time because there is no support.
More and more hate for the ship and Blaze in general makes me so happy.
9 months ago
Anonymous
aw that's nice, been ages since got any Sonic and Blaze moments so at least happy for that
9 months ago
Anonymous
JUST
FRICK
ALREADY
Please for the love god before CWC rapes a bunch of women/&children and shoots up a mall
9 months ago
Anonymous
I don't know if it counts as fricking, but they sure slept on that igloo.
9 months ago
Anonymous
He almost said the thing from that game I played!
9 months ago
Anonymous
Ian is really trying to make up for Blaze not appearing at all during Forces huh.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Feels like every scene Blaze gets is her going "wow it sure is different to be in another dimension that I'm not the ruler of".
9 months ago
Anonymous
9 months ago
Anonymous
I'm dumb that I had to double take when I thought she said I've come to love you, when read more and was your world. anyway did like this part of the issue for obvious reasons
9 months ago
El Barto
soooo is sonic gonna get something other than a chili dog then?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Also who made all this architecture and why haven't we seen it until now? Holy shit do your fricking worldbuilding before you make backgrounds like this.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Literally a rooftop run reference
9 months ago
Anonymous
That's impossible. There are no other games in the Sonic franchise except Forces.
9 months ago
Anonymous
It's just Spagonia, Italy in Sonic's world
9 months ago
Anonymous
Why haven't we seen it until now?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Bro.....
9 months ago
Anonymous
In the comic. Why haven't we seen Spagonia before in the comic.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Because IDW Sonic is very explicitly a side piece to the mainline Sonic games and assumes the reader is already familiar with the location?
9 months ago
Anonymous
But there are no more mainline games besides Forces.
9 months ago
Anonymous
That's you being a schizo.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Give me back my fricking continuity.
9 months ago
Anonymous
How does that relate to you being a schizo and deluding yourself that somehow Forces was the only canon game to the comic, when the comic has referenced multiple other games? Stop being a moron.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Because Forces sucks, and therefore it wants me to suffer.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>In the comic. Why haven't we seen Spagonia before in the comic. >Why haven't we seen this place that we're now seeing
You're seeing it now you dumb frick there always has to be a first time it shows up.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Here's your IDW humans, bro! >Inb4 retconned to be animal inhabited like Central City
9 months ago
Anonymous
>implying those aren't all "Sonic Worldians"
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Rooftop run
I love this section. The music is so sublime.
Rate the issue
7.5/10 Pretty good if not short, I was expecting Silver to be grating with Evan writing but it was okay. From the blurb it said he would be fanboying over Whisper or something. I hope it's because they've listened to the criticism about him being an uwu baby cinnamon roll. We'll see if this continues to the nest issue. The story with Blaze and Sonic was nice, I'd like to see the characters just visiting familiar places or exploring shit over doing missions for the Restoration as if it were Archie or something. If they're going to keep that shit in, just restrict it to the Cutters in a side story and if IDW's gonna last and get the chance, a sister book. That panel though is gonna unleash the worst kind of autism.
9 months ago
Anonymous
So why does the world from Sonic Unleashed exist? I thought Sega was banning the existence of all games besides Forces.
9 months ago
Anonymous
IDW has already referenced stuff in previous games but very briefly. As it has been pointed out there haven't been any people shown. It's a weird half measure.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Someone please murder Sega. I want my Archie continuity back.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Post or Pre reboot, answer carefully. Honestly fine with both.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Archie dropped the license in the first place
9 months ago
Anonymous
I don't.
GIVE ME BACK MY FRICKING ARCHIE CONTINUITY
No thanks.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>human city >don't show any humans
Why are they avoiding them? Archie Reboot had them just fine, why is IDW so of showing any human that isn't eggman? Where did this autism come from
9 months ago
Anonymous
No clue, even the official Tails Tube said that humans live on the mainland, this was the perfect time to at least have them in the background or be the ones serving Sonic and Blaze their food.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Somewhere out there is a universe where the main canon is like Joe's world. Not fair.
>even the official Tails Tube said that humans live on the mainland, this was the perfect time to at least have them in the background or be the ones serving Sonic and Blaze their food.
I feel like this "muh humans live somewhere else always" is just an excuse to never have them show up like two worlds. They legit want to tell you mobians and humans interacting is a rare occurrence when that is bullshit. They want the bare minimum is saying they're totally a thing guyyyss! but don't want to show them for whatever reason. It's dumb
9 months ago
Anonymous
Why do you care so much about seeing humans in a Sonic story?
9 months ago
Anonymous
>show human location >keep avoiding any humans for no reason
I can be be a bit peeved at this and want them to interact with the furries. This total separation thing they do is so dumb.
9 months ago
Anonymous
If they included human women then Sonic would be too busy trying to frick them
9 months ago
Anonymous
Sara's a catgirl, not a human.
9 months ago
Anonymous
meh, she looks 90% human so close enough.
9 months ago
Anonymous
The fact of the matter is that Sonic lore and what’s considered canon has always been determined by 'what's good for the brand' rather than the actual content. Because as long as people keep making jokes about Elise making out with Sonic, or a new cartoon they wanna shill comes out, THAT's what influences canon. So no humans besides Eggman interacting with Sonic & co and Infinite, despite being marketed as a cool new villain, is barely acknowledged these days due to Forces having a low metacritic score. He wasn’t even playable in the MOBILE game based off his debut title until FOUR YEARS later.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Sega doesn't want to show them yet as they decide their new status quo and thus would want them to be re-established in something more important than the comics, and Ian, as usual, rather than trying to work with limitations tries to force them away and then is forced himself into awkward compromises. So you get a human location without humans being allowed to be shown.
9 months ago
Anonymous
It's really hurting the more subtle aspects of world building, so many things they have to avoid and it's making the story feel disjointed.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Ian said a few months ago that they couldn't do stories in Chun-nan because people would complain about the lack of humans.
I don't get this guy.
9 months ago
Boco
Nothing wrong with showing the city. Besides, apparently Sega still doesn't want them to feature humans in the comic. Yet.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I'm saying it's weird that he backtracked his "this is why we can't show human locations" thing so fast, moron.
9 months ago
Boco
Oh. Maybe they're just really happy about not having that particular mandate anymore and shoved it in as soon as possible.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You really are illiterate, aren't you?
9 months ago
Boco
Eh, probably.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Half the time he says something in the podcast he's trying to be diplomatic, or in other words, lying to calm people down. He might say to a question "no we're not using Unleashed locations without humans" to calm down the person asking, while behind the scenes planning to do just that. In fact, considering how long comics take to be made, odds are he was writing this exact story while saying that publicly. Oftentimes when he denies things like this, you should take it as "actually he's going to do it and is just trying to throw you off the scent".
9 months ago
Anonymous
Why even bother lying about that? It doesn't effect anything to say "we have human locations in future issues, so unless something goes wrong you're getting that anyway."
It's more likely he saw people call that stupid and decided to set his next story in a place like that.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Ian makes shit up so autists stop bugging him.
I mentioned this the other day and people called me a schizo who thinks Ian is an evil boogie man.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Why the frick is Lah and the Boo ghost brothers in the back ground?
What a fricking out of place cameo.
9 months ago
Anonymous
The ghost brothers were in Unleashed, if you played the sidequests you would know that. I don't blame you for not playing the sidequests there were a lot in that game.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I forgot all about those Caspar looking frickers. Never knew they were in the actual game.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Wow, Sonic actually looks like himself in this and not some weird blobby quilled traced abomination!
9 months ago
Anonymous
> take girl into a sewer full of lethal traps > Sonic's perfect honeymoon is just him speedrunning widowhood
Now I know why Sonic doesn't get in relationships
9 months ago
Anonymous
She enjoys it, it's to spice things up.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Rushgays won so hard
9 months ago
Anonymous
> Going on vacations together with no one else around is actually a thing Sonic and Blaze do
crazy big win for rushgays.
9 months ago
Boco
OTP baby.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>They already figured out Duo being Mimic
Well that was fast
9 months ago
Anonymous
This might be the best Evans art has ever looked.
9 months ago
Anonymous
It's almost as if Snipers are the natural enemy of Spies.
... In the absence of Pyros.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>they figured it out in literally 2 issues
Nice 'infiltrator' there lmao
9 months ago
Anonymous
Wow, already?
There really is no time for anything to settle in this comic is there.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Well I appreciate they're not making everyone out to look like complete morons just to make the plot function.
Seems weird he went to make his move almost immediately though when he's supposed to be a master infiltrator. You'd think he'd have more patience.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Now kiss!!
9 months ago
Anonymous
When exactly did this nobody background character have the authority to give orders to actual relevant fighters? She’s like everything people hate about Sally but worse because she isn’t royalty or the leader since childhood.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Since never.
She was a background character that they decided to push to the foreground without first establishing what her actual personality was just because she was "very popular (as a background character).
That, and her breasts are huge.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Lanolin's time in the background mostly showed her as a frightened civilian, but now she's gutsy and tactical almost like she's some seasoned leader. Are they really that desperate to find a perfect Sally replacement after failing in that task using Amy when the comic first started?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Since she's the writer's personal OC. If Archie kept going Gold would've been just as insufferable
9 months ago
Anonymous
To be fair, from her perspective Silver just dropped a mountain on them. If anything Whisper should be cluing the rest in on her spotting Duo tripping Silver.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I really don't get why they're going with this instead of the passive aggressive grump Adam pitched.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Lanolin is a crappy leader, surprise!
9 months ago
Anonymous
two things. nothing here says she is a bad leader. she trusted the planet buster to not die in an empty field of nothing. he somehow failed at that. two we have been established this. reminder she got her squad wiped on her first mission. oh i hope u don’t mean cause she didn’t believe silver when he accused someone of a murder attempt
9 months ago
Anonymous
Why are we supposed to care about this sheep?
9 months ago
Anonymous
boob
9 months ago
Anonymous
>reading the page for the first time
Oh fricking hell, THIS trope is being used? >
>next page after
Oh thank god.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Boy, is she going to feel like an idiot when she finds out Silver was right.
9 months ago
Anonymous
The OCs can't be wrong, according to the series.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>IDW Silver >Jobs to a mildly large fish
>Archie CHADlver >beats Enerjak in his base form >beats the time eater 2.0 >beats DBH Trunks
9 months ago
Anonymous
Fricking This, Archie Sonic really did great justice for silver, creating a solid background for silver and making him as this Bad-ass Time cop that killed god, unfortunately it was cut short. I'm no hater to IDW but Archie Sonic was indeed better
9 months ago
Anonymous
Archie Silver was wimpy as frick.
9 months ago
Anonymous
best silver was sonic universe silver
9 months ago
Anonymous
Followed by Tails Gets Trolled Silver
9 months ago
Anonymous
The thing about Archie silver is that the setting allowed him to use his powers to visit alternate timelines like he should be able to.
That made him a much more interesting character.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Repeating the Trunks plot of averting the apocalypse definitely shouldn't be the character's only use.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Colors showed and Frontiers implies that he can time travel where and whenever he wants but IDW Silver has no control over his time travel and only deals with disasters.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Colors showed and Frontiers implies that he can time travel where and whenever he wants
That's before the course correction.
9 months ago
Anonymous
What course correction?
9 months ago
Anonymous
The focus on canon, Tailstube, axing two worlds, etc.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Okay but Frontiers was like 10 months ago and still had that line. That came after IDW established Silver's involuntary time travel
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Frontiers
When someone asked Ian about that dialogue, he said he had no idea where that came from.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You know, if they want to go full OC team, they should use the cube wispon kid from issues ago.
But, I suppose they NEED to have at least one canon character, so people won't feel they'll skip this (they'll totally will, tho).
9 months ago
Boco
If this comic gets any more OCs they should be villains.
9 months ago
Anonymous
They should add more reptile characters, even one scaly girl would make me more interested to read IDW
9 months ago
Anonymous
Apparently Sega prefers small to medium sized mammals.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Lame, you have a whole ecosystem and to just stick with fuzballs is way to limiting, plus there's already a few reptile characters so not like it's some egregious deviation from canon
9 months ago
Boco
Sega is stupid. This is the same company that "doesn't want the Master Emerald to have any special properties".
9 months ago
Anonymous
At this point they should just destroy the Master Emerald, it really is just holding Knuckles back.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I liked the townie boy. Shame they didn't give him a name Does anyone know what animal he's supposed to be?
9 months ago
Boco
Didn't they give him his own back up story in the big special version of #1?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Sonic met back up with him and they showed how he did during the Metal Virus(got infected) but still didn't give him a name.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Is this the most boobage yet?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Did they get smaller or just more pronounced?
9 months ago
Anonymous
cat fight with Rouge when.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>"Hello, I am a spy and out to backstab you."
Somebody please tell Potto that nobody likes or cares about this plot.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Evan wrote that story.
9 months ago
Anonymous
If ABT was the artist, those would be twice the size.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>oh no it's silver I have to be careful in order to not cause trouble
>takes the very first opportunity to try and kill him with a generic fish bot
gee man however did they figure you out
Silver idolizing the nu-freedom fighters is still the dumbest thing ever. Dude helped kill the god of time once, he’s so far beyond these shitters it’s comical.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I mean, Silver doesn't remember that, but he has helped Sonic's group of friends and defeated another fire creature called the Ifrit once. He also joined the Resistance in Forces. So his behavior in IDW is odd.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Dude helped kill the god of time once
To be fair... that "never" happened
9 months ago
Anonymous
Sonic and Blaze vaguely remember 06 in generations. Silver and Blaze feel some kind of bond with each other in Colors DS. It still happened but nobody remembers the details very clearly.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Elise also sorta remembers too.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I mean, Silver doesn't remember that, but he has helped Sonic's group of friends and defeated another fire creature called the Ifrit once. He also joined the Resistance in Forces. So his behavior in IDW is odd.
>"Make the more popular character respect, even admire your OC or OC organization"
It's a cheap way creating false validation for OCs, almost "fanfic 101".
9 months ago
Anonymous
[...] >"Make the more popular character respect, even admire your OC or OC organization"
It's a cheap way creating false validation for OCs, almost "fanfic 101".
Are we gonna pretend Silver is a well respected character by fans
Like half if the people who do like him still call him pathetic
9 months ago
Anonymous
He managed to retain a solid fanbase despite debuting in a complete trainwreck of a game. He deserves better than to be some simp slobbering for Potto’s dykes.
9 months ago
Anonymous
A fan base that routinely interprets him as a borderline incompetent dork who just happens to have really strong psychic powers, Silver fans don't even think he deserves better than this
9 months ago
Anonymous
How many people interpreted him this way before the IDW comics?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Just as many because Silver has largely been seen as a dumbass since '06
9 months ago
Anonymous
Silver fans are split between loving how Evan wrote him and hating how she wrote him. The half that calls him pathetic are Evan’s “sweet uwu cinnamon roll” Silver fans.
9 months ago
Anonymous
This is why ESP Silver should be canon. Then we could have both an Archie-like Silver and idiot baby IDW Silver.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Archie Silver was also an idiot, he was less of a baby I will admit, but he still got treated like a b***h on occasion
9 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah the traitor thing was one of Ian's first dumb dragged out storylines and it was really frustrating watching him make the same mistakes over and over again but he really shined in Sonic Universe where he was allowed to just help people and fight big enemies. He was more of an awkward teenage boy than a maldeveloped baby person so it was believable when he was both being badass and got punked.
9 months ago
Anonymous
This, I truly don't understand this, Silver power is psychokinesis right(he fricking move things with his mind) wouldn't that make him the most powerful character at least in base form? Why did they write him as this weak useless kid who do nothing and sit on the sideline everytime
9 months ago
Anonymous
>wouldn't that make him the most powerful character at least in base form
Weaker than Shadow since introduction, weaker than Sonic in all of his game appearances after '06
>Wait silver is a kid?
When they had ages, Silver was 14, making him younger than the non-child cast
The ghost brothers were in Unleashed, if you played the sidequests you would know that. I don't blame you for not playing the sidequests there were a lot in that game.
Yeah, they're in sidequests for Spagonia and Adabat, so it makes sense they'd show up here
Literally a rooftop run reference
You'd think people would recognize it considering it showed up in Unleashed and Generations (and in the Unleashed mobile game, but nobody played that)
Probably because they realized having a 12yo trying to date Sonic was a bit weird
He was 14 but ages aren't a thing anymore because they couldn't keep up with the frickery of Sonic's birthday in Generations and time leaps like the six month gap in Forces.
I'm glad they did. Just have them be young adults of non-specific age like in Boom
9 months ago
Anonymous
Since when Japs care about e-girls or shotas?
Boy, SoA must have pushed them hard for that...
9 months ago
Anonymous
Sega have always been cowards, it was just a matter of time
He was 14 but ages aren't a thing anymore because they couldn't keep up with the frickery of Sonic's birthday in Generations and time leaps like the six month gap in Forces.
And now another birthday for Sonic in Frontiers, meaning at least two years have gone by now but running that through everyone's listed ages is a logistical headache so they just ditched them.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>People kept track of how many years went by in the games
I blame modern cartoon and videogames
9 months ago
Anonymous
two birthdays=two years isn't much keeping track
9 months ago
Anonymous
Or rather, gave a crap about it.
Even with two "on screen" birthdays, Sonic never stopped being 15 to my eyes
He was 14 but ages aren't a thing anymore because they couldn't keep up with the frickery of Sonic's birthday in Generations and time leaps like the six month gap in Forces.
pretty good/10. I liked Duo, and seeing Sonic and Blaze run around Spagonia without needing to throw in a battle. I'd have preferred the city to be populated though
I don't care for IDW Sonic at all. This is the first time in ages I'm impressed with it. Didn't care for the first story but Evans art was better than ever. Then the second one started like a lame IDW sonic story (oh we're avoiding death traps but it's just Tuesday) and then they jump out the sewer and the art is jaw dropping. I loved the dialogue. It reminded me of the Ian Flynn Archie stories I love. Sonic got back his banter.
I'm the "crying lesbians, pit of lava" guy, and I actually feel like this issue was pretty decent. I posted this yesterday: >Mimic fricking with Silver in reasonably subtle ways >Silver and Whisper are already onto Mimic, so the arc won't be dragged out for 12 issues >Sonic and Blaze actually get to visit Spagonia, a named location instead of some generic Badnik base or village >Whisper, Belle, and Tangle all show up without crying
If the rest of the comic was this quality, I'd like it better.
>they figured it out in literally 2 issues
Nice 'infiltrator' there lmao
>They already figured out Duo being Mimic
Well that was fast
At least it means that this arc won't drag on for 10+ issues like the Zombot/Surge arcs did.
Yeah, but I had thought that they'd defeat Mimic and then move onto the Surge arc.
>At least it means that this arc won't drag on for 10+ issues like the Zombot/Surge arcs did.
This arc is gonna drag actually because in the cover for issue 70 I think Duo/Mimic is still there.
>At least it means that this arc won't drag on for 10+ issues like the Zombot/Surge arcs did.
This arc is gonna drag actually because in the cover for issue 70 I think Duo/Mimic is still there.
Okay but the arc is still taking over half a dozen issues and months of real world time.
Years, honestly. Sega has to have an internal debate on how she should be handled before they let anyone else touch her, and they STILL haven't done anything with Infinite. I don't even know if he's been mentioned by name in IDW.
They alluded to Infinite but haven't mentioned him by name.
>At least it means that this arc won't drag on for 10+ issues like the Zombot/Surge arcs did.
This arc is gonna drag actually because in the cover for issue 70 I think Duo/Mimic is still there.
At least the next four issues and even longer if it takes a back seat to this new Surge stuff
I like it well enough
Having B-plots in general makes this more enjoyable than urban warfare which was pretty underwhelming, should've done it way sooner
[...] >human city >don't show any humans
Why are they avoiding them? Archie Reboot had them just fine, why is IDW so of showing any human that isn't eggman? Where did this autism come from
Part 1: 6/10. Lanolin is getting carried hard by her ballasts, Silver still isn't acting like Vergil at the end of DMCV, but I'm glad that Tangle wasn't insufferable and Whisper was the only one to notice realize that Duo is actually Mimic.
Part 2: 8/10. Lovely art, but it feels empty. Sonic does feel and look like Sonic here. The Sonaze shiptease and its consequences will be a disaster for /sthg/.
It was good, a step up from the previous one, the highlight was the Blaze and Sonic story, think a story just focused on the two of them was long overdue and felt like a love letter to fans of the Rush games
first story 7/10
second 9/10
Is Evan shoving Silver into the lesbian OC shit to justify it as a story not completely about OCs? Even though Silver's involvement in the actual story is basically inconsequential?
Most probably. It is no secret they would rather write about their OCs than about the Sonic cast... because the mandates are stopping them from turning the Sonic cast into their OCs.
IDW Silver is weird as a character because the Rivals games weren't considered canon for the first few years of the book so they seemingly defaulted to his 06 origin and wrote him as hailing from an apocalypse with no people or plant life. Making him very naive, childish and emotionally dependent on Blaze which is out of line with his post 06 appearances where he's more headstrong and confidant. With this issue he's written more in line with his post 06 self and even his eyes are drawn like they are in the games(before his eyes were drawn as conjoined circles that weren't split by his brow like they are here). I'm very happy about this even if he still retains elements meant for his more childish interpretation like his Diamond Cutter fanboyism.
I think a lot of headaches would've been avoided had Sega simply provided these people with a bible of what to and what not to do. If Sega wasn't going to take the initiative, then the writers should've at least suggested one be made for them before the comic started.
True, but the fact that a company just flipflops on the canon of their own dam games is still... weird. 06 has a story reason for why it never happened, but then you get shit like Eggman Nega, is he from Blaze's world or is he a descendent of Eggman? Or is he both?
>I think a lot of headaches would've been avoided had Sega simply provided these people with a bible of what to and what not to do.
They did, and people like Ian proceeded to shit about it for years and push to change it. If you're frustrated that canon keeps changing, that's the answer- the American side of things getting fans hired as people working in the "lore" of the series who are trying to change things to their liking.
Kinda odd to enforce canon on a series that isn't canon (even if Reboot was made to be more like the games), story even heavily featured an AOSTH character
>Kinda odd to enforce canon on a series that isn't canon
They don't want another Penders to occur (i.e. even if non-canon, they want two separates universes that could divide fans)
That's because everybody feels the need to lie about the BTS constantly. Sega was always involved and giving instructions etc. It's their brand it's just common sense.
Silver in this issue feels like his TSR self(The Japanese version that has anxiety and tries to solve mysteries not the English one that's mentally moronic)
>Human location >Zero humans
Why even do this just to have a shitty Blaze Sonic ship moment? Why bother? And why even Unleashed instead of using an actual place in Sonic 06?
cherish the near normalcy of this thread. Once the sun rises, all of the /sthg/gays are gonna crowd in and shit up the thread with dumb argumentation about lesbians and flimsy "criticisms" because they just hate the comic and can't outright admit it.
It's strange how Cinemaphile of all places is the most normal about the comic, Twitter's busy trying to find reasons to shit on the artists and writers somehow.
>Twitter's busy trying to find reasons to shit on the artists and writers somehow.
Really? Considering the made a lesbian couple, I'm surprised they have a problem... guess it is because Sonic has not come out as trans yet, or haven't been drawn with his chest scars
>guess it is because Sonic has not come out as trans yet, or haven't been drawn with his chest scars
The chest scars already happened, that was Surge. I mean, Scourge.
Evan likes to write Silver very soft and dorky instead of being like a Hedgehog Trunks in the games. The problem with this change is that IDW Silver is supposed to be like Game Silver in the comic and that makes his change in attitude weird and inconsistent. Like, some days he acts like Trunks with more attitude and other days he acts like a Steven Universe character?
That's the problem with Silver. In 06, he had a history of fighting and destroying Iblis. With all that wiped from the timeline, he doesn't have all that experience anymroe.
So now he's written like an inexperienced hero. None of that bad stuff happened anymore.
Not true. Silver is still supposed to be experienced post-06 as well. He has conflicts with Eggman Nega and works to secure the future, he just doesn't have that desperate aspect to him like in 06 anymore due to the change of time. IDW Silver acts like a complete contrast.
Eh, not really. The problem with Sonic Rivals is that those games never released in Japan. Ignoring that, Silver wasn't much use in 06. Sure, Shadow got trapped in a cuck cage but Silver couldn't stop Eggman from taking over 99% of the world. He doesn't have the same chops he had in 06.
>The game almost nobody played because it didn't have other Sega IPs like the others?
And? The point is that it's also one of the most recent character portrayals, unfortunately.
So wait.
Knuckles and Amy are on Angel Isand doing sumn and later they’re gonna fight the Babylon Rogues
Sonic and Blaze are doing random stupid bullshit because Blaze needs a tourguide apparently
Shadow is being IDW Shadow, probably sleeping in a trashcan or standing in the middle of the road again
Cream and Vanilla are baking a cake for the Chaotix and the skunks are with them doing that too
Silver is fangirling over muh heckin Diamondcutters
Surge and Kit are auditioning to join the Restoration Lesbian Breakfast Club
Mimic is cosplaying as a femboy
Green Skunk is sexting Mimic while he cosplays as a femboy
The Diamondcutters are crying about their trauma and how Silver is ruining their trauma practice
After that gay picnic the Diamondcutters had was over, Rouge grabbed Tails by his neckscruff and informed him he’s gonna be spending the weekend in her Club Rouge bedroom
It's crazy how much more investable the spagonia story is because they actually took place in a sonic level. IDW needs to start creating locations that feel like levels
Wew! And Evan participated in portfolio day and ABT has been heavily advertising that he's open for comic work on any big project. Things aren't looking good.
>Wew! And Evan participated in portfolio day and ABT has been heavily advertising that he's open for comic work on any big project. Things aren't looking good.
Or they're just testing the waters for new artists after 4-5 years of mostly ABT and Evan. Maybe that's why this issue was split, maybe we'll get more of Hammerstrom who seems to be very much what fans want to see more of.
They’re literally canon you know. Rouge bets Tails in a fight in exchange for his first kiss in Sonic Battle. It’s just very important to make the fact they are canonically having sex with eachother in the canon games, clear.
True, they are canonically attracted to eachother, and she did canonically make out with him in Battle. They're basically married in the canon games but the plot just doesn't put spotlight on it
A larger cast means more pieces to move, and there's only so many panels allowed each issue. Stories work best with 2-4 main characters throughout, not including the antagonist and their 1-3 cronies. Having an A/B plot with two hero teams, one filled to the brim (Diamond Cutters), just really slows things down.
really that's the thing I feel idw has the potential(the team not the company they seem to be donezo) but yeah they have interesting ideas but they've gotten to obsessed with ocs. Like I don't want a full year of tangle and whisper I want sonic, knuckles and tails.
Basically their biggest flaw is making characters overstay their welcome, we used to love whisper here but they made her whole character being sad wolf. Same thing with surge we all hyped her up to hell and even after her first lost the jobber memes were that just a meme also got to take responsibilty as one of if not the guy that started it Then she really went and kept jobbing and crying. Basically i feel it's why they made crying against the rules in the first place because you get these weird crying breakfast friends moments.
Also when it comes to the game characters funny enough I think that's where they are at their best which is why the OCs get so much hate.
>the jobber memes were that just a meme
No they aren't. The comic wastes 6 straight issues on Surge constantly fighting and losing to Sonic, with nothing interesting happening besides Goku telling her to turn good and not-Scourge getting angrier and growing a tulpa.
No i meant initially anon, the next part says then she kept fricking jobbing and crying. But yeah i mean in issue 50 when they fought and she lost we all were like all that for her to lose damn what a jobber. But then it just kept happening
> Brining in Tails, Knuckles, and half the cast, the tornado, all while Eggman and an army of badniks are out there to kill you and you can't even stop to chill because the world might explode or some shit like that.
> Just traveling around the world with a cute cat waifu eating in fancy restaurants and sleeping in igloos without any sense of urgency or world threatening danger.
The closest thing to having a normal life I ever seen Sonic having just for the sake of it, In Sonic Unleashed the world has being fricking ripped apart.
Years, honestly. Sega has to have an internal debate on how she should be handled before they let anyone else touch her, and they STILL haven't done anything with Infinite. I don't even know if he's been mentioned by name in IDW.
Infinite is either an Enerjak level threat or just some mercenary butthole depending on whether or not he has the Ruby. They'd have to give him a different power source for him to not be too powerful or too WEAK
The phantom ruby's powers were retconned as manipulating "virtual reality" so I don't really know if he's Enerjak tier who ACTUALLY can manipulate reality
Shame they won't let Infinite come back this comic is in dire need of villains. He's basically an oc donut but it's still something.
The phantom ruby's powers were retconned as manipulating "virtual reality" so I don't really know if he's Enerjak tier who ACTUALLY can manipulate reality
>Infinite comes back as Shadow rogue, hates Shadow for killing his team; now Shadow's Black Manta >"I AM NOT WEAK" crap and chuuni behavior retconned/handwaved as the Phantom Ruby fricking with his head >Ruby is gone, but after wearing it for so long he can now make energy constructs through force of will, like a Green Lantern. >Still not OP enough to make a Sun or entire armies anymore.
Would this work?
>Ruby is gone, but after wearing it for so long he can now make energy constructs through force of will, like a Green Lantern
That's not how the Phantom Ruby works after Forces. It doesnt physically create anything, it just forces the perceptions of others into believing the hallucinations are real, so if they're attacked by an illusion of a coked-up Knuckles punching them in the gut, the brain will react as if its legitimately happened.
It's not his name, it's his username, that he hasn't used in over a decade. You're outing yourself as an early 2000s furgay who'd know him in those spaces back then, and everything that the comics become shit for when trying to appeal to you and yours.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I wasn't around for that. I just have a belief that someone's internet handle should be the only name they're known as. It should be carved into their arms and skull.
And the comics became shit not because of furries, but because of three stupid writers who hated each other.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>those spaces
DeviantART and Fanfiction.net are a click away and still super popular. You don't gotta call them "those spaces" like they're some forgotten internet forum.
9 months ago
Anonymous
If they're not Twitter, Reddit, and AO3, nobody uses them. Keep up grandpa
9 months ago
Anonymous
People still use FFN (for some ungodly reason). Probably more than AO3, depending on the fandom. There's tons of great writers who haven't migrated or don't crosspost, which is a bit of an issue, since the mods seem to be more active and have purged a few smut authors over the course of the month.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>keep up grandpa
He says unironically in an image board that opened in 2003.
What comic, Archie? The one that was shit and was cancelled because Archie themselves decided they'd rather focus on their own IPs after ruining the contracted paperwork for decades?
>How on Earth do you think he's different from Evan in that regards?
In that I think I have not seeing him go all out yet. I wouldn't mind the risk.
If, as you said, he ends up being just like I think Evan is... then Sonic in both comics and games is doomed.
Anon, he spent Archie hammering characters into his interpretation, and then his entire IDW career has been him trying to hammer characters into his headcanons, and when not allowed to do so, going and crying in his podcast. He's the exact same as Evan in that regards, probably even more so- Evan tends to at least be professional enough to shut up about it comparatively.
If only... no control leads to Penders...es, too much control leads to current Flynns.
We need balance. Like Reboot Flynn.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Reboot Archie fricking sucked. The continuity all got chucked out a window and replaced with a new, offscreen one a la Nu52. Also the redesigns sucked.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I liked the worldbuilding for Reboot Archie, but it never really went anywhere. They stretched out the Unleashed adaptation so long that when the comic ended, it felt like they hadn't done anything with it.
9 months ago
Anonymous
That's my thing as well, loved that they did adapt the game, but maybe it should have been shorter. Not helping is at the start of the reboot they had that whole "will they remember the old universe?" thing. What REALLY didn't help was the second crossover with Megaman.
It didn't. Even back in the day people were talking about 'mandates' and such. Even back when Penders and Bollers were writing it Sega was telling them to do or not do certain things. This will always be, and always has been the case since it's a big brand for kids.
>Even back when Penders and Bollers were writing it Sega was telling them to do or not do certain things
Penders himself has admitted that, while they were monitored, half-way through Sega stopped giving input. He literally admitted it allowed him to do whatever he wanted.
9 months ago
Anonymous
And that's fine. The problem is that Penders, Bollers and Gabrie were all stupid idiots.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Not arguing against that. I'm just saying we have already seen what happens with unhinged writers taking control with no supervision.
9 months ago
Anonymous
No, we've seen what a hack can do when nobody's competent enough to tell him "Dude you're writing Star Trek plagiarism and making everyone boring because you're trying too hard to be X-Men, knock it off and get rid of this go-nowhere lore and cyber-molestation shit".
At least Penders managed to fix Antoine before he left, Bollers's idea for him was just boring.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Unhinged writers, hacks... potato, potahto.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Unhinged writers have too much creativity. Hacks have too little and tend to actively plagiarize other people's creativity without caring if they suck outside their initial context.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Unhinged writers have too much creativity
One can have too much creativity. Doesn't mean one knows how to properly use it.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Way to say absolutely nothing.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Precisely. Write a lot, and say nothing at all.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not replying to (You) again until (You) have something substantive to say.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I mean, you are the one who keeps replying whenever I thought we reached an understanding. Now you pull the "I'm not replying anymore" stuff?
I'm not even disagreeing with the things you been posting.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You think the mandates should stay.
I think Sega should have every single member of its executive staff lined up and shot at a firing range.
We're at completely irreconcilable places.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Mandates are what seperate fanfiction from official content, or at least that's what they SHOULD be.
I feel Whisper is the ultimate breach of "fanfiction should be not official", a blatant fanwank creation you'd find in a SonicxMetal Gear Solid crossover fanfic given official clout.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I liked Whisper initially, though. Only initial issue was that being the Wispon user linked her permanently to the cancer that was Colors and Forces.
Her real issues came when every single scene she was in got consumed by whining and crying, when that really should've stayed resolved with the end of Tangle&Whisper. Also they can't just say out loud that 1: Her teammates died, or 2: she's a lesbian, because death and homosexuality are against the mandates. So she just constantly reopens all the wounds that this current era of Sonic comic is plagued with
9 months ago
Anonymous
Frick, I should've said they were violations of the Hays Code, not just against the mandates.
>You think the mandates should stay
No... we were discussing about whether there were mandates back in the beginning of Archie and the post-Flynn era. And then the matter over "unhinged writers vs hacks"
I think you mixed me with other anons you might have been replying to
Hard to tell who's who in an anonymous imageboard.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Hard to tell who's who in an anonymous imageboard
Specially when you are taking the tole of "one sane man". No hard feelings, I've been there myself.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>"one sane man"
Kek, meant to type "only sane man"
9 months ago
Anonymous
The Wispon itself is also a big issue. There's always the eternal question "why doesn't Whisper just shoot -enemy here- dead?"
9 months ago
Anonymous
>There's always the eternal question "why doesn't Whisper just shoot -enemy here- dead?"
She only saves that for people like Mimic and Eggman but something always gets in her way.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not sure if the lesbian thing with Whisper really counts as an issue, since I doubt there'd ever be a story with her coming to terms with the fact she's attracted to women because those are no fun to write unless you've got a personal bone to pick.
Hypothetically, say Tangle was a guy and not a single thing else was different. I really don't think it would help or hurt Whisper's situation in the slightest. Maybe from the perspective of fans who are tired of Evan's inability to leave LGBT-themes out of her writing, but from a meaningful standpoint, eh.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Evan's inability to leave LGBT-themes out of her writing
But that's the thing... what are the LGBT themes? Other than, "she likes girls, he likes boys, it likes both"?
9 months ago
Anonymous
9 months ago
Anonymous
Anon's point is, how does the fact that these two are a gay couple affect anything? How has it affected their two appearances so far, functionally?
9 months ago
Anonymous
It doesn't, that was the point of
I'm not sure if the lesbian thing with Whisper really counts as an issue, since I doubt there'd ever be a story with her coming to terms with the fact she's attracted to women because those are no fun to write unless you've got a personal bone to pick.
Hypothetically, say Tangle was a guy and not a single thing else was different. I really don't think it would help or hurt Whisper's situation in the slightest. Maybe from the perspective of fans who are tired of Evan's inability to leave LGBT-themes out of her writing, but from a meaningful standpoint, eh.
. People really just don't read here.
9 months ago
Boco
Have you not read her fan stuff?
9 months ago
Anonymous
The general implication is people usually warn others to NOT read Evan's off-the-clock material.
I concede I've never read it myself, but from what I've seen first hand, it's not something I'd be interested in.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I don't read fanfiction at all anymore. Too many voices in my head overcorrecting grammar and character dialogue.
9 months ago
Boco
Smart.
And of course, we can't forget her OC Gold. "She's either gay or bi, I haven't decided, tee hee!"
9 months ago
Anonymous
That's old news, Evan firmly settled on "Gold is a lesbian" and has since begun making art that blatantly confirms it.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Maybe from the perspective of fans who are tired of Evan's inability to leave LGBT-themes out of her writing
Homophobes make up one of the loudest parts of Cinemaphile's userbase. They seem completely incapable of moving on from Korrasami and Bubbline and insist the only solution is to enslave women and bar them from workplaces.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Evan's inability to leave LGBT-themes out of her writing
But that's the thing... what are the LGBT themes? Other than, "she likes girls, he likes boys, it likes both"?
Evan's Ghost of the Future comic loudly features the following
-Disabled characters such as Silver's little sister who needs a wheelchair to walk
-openly bisexual Sonic and Shadow, who by word of Evan will eventually end up in a polyamorous relationship with Tikal
-gratuitous violence such as Metal Sonic forcing his spiked fingertips through Silver's palms
-OCs who make it a point to make sure the reader knows they are not heterosexual.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Most of those sound cool. I'm just confused by Tikal being the third wheel in Sonadow.
9 months ago
Anonymous
just plain gay isn't anything special at this point, buy polyamory makes people pay attention.
9 months ago
Anonymous
No I mean why Tikal. Where the hell is Amy or Knuckles and why can't they be in the poly
9 months ago
Anonymous
What the frick is up with female fans making fan fics about sonic and shadow being in weird poly relationships
9 months ago
Anonymous
Same reason Poison Ivy and Harley Quinn are in a lesbian relationship now.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>openly bisexual Sonic and Shadow
You wouldn't know if Evan hadn't said anything
9 months ago
Anonymous
Tangle and Whisper have the same problem as Craig and Tweek from South Park where their relationship has consumed them as characters and there's more focus on them as an item than as individuals. This can happen to straight couples too but gay/lesbian pairs suffer from this more because the writers have to consider "representation". (even though Tangle and Whisper aren't officially an item)
9 months ago
Anonymous
>have a bunch of characters based on Metal Gear >don't have Solid Snake The Snake
9 months ago
Anonymous
Lyric probably tainted snakes for Sega forever.
9 months ago
Anonymous
yet
9 months ago
Anonymous
>You think the mandates should stay
No... we were discussing about whether there were mandates back in the beginning of Archie and the post-Flynn era. And then the matter over "unhinged writers vs hacks"
I think you mixed me with other anons you might have been replying to
9 months ago
Anonymous
Penders also said he left because he got sick of having to do what they said. I think he even said he left because he didn't want to do a Shadow the Hedgehog. Adaptation
9 months ago
Anonymous
You wonder if Penders leaving the book was entirely thanks to hating Shadow? Maybe Sega stepping in was never necessary.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Penders didn't leave he got fired along with the rest of the Archie team for being a bunch of morons.
9 months ago
Boco
No, he threatened to quit unless he got his way. But because this was when Sega was cleaning house, they basically told him "theres the door, don't hit your ass on the way out".
9 months ago
Anonymous
Penders was still doing lettering early into Ian's run.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Penders also said he left because he got sick of having to do what they said
Well, Penders changes his version of the events every 2 weeks, anyway, I just took part of his statement from the DYKG video.
Although, considering his ego, he maybe was referring to them not allowing him to transform all characters into humans because writing for furry characters was not up to his level
9 months ago
Anonymous
He left because his Knuckles solo book got cancelled with no warning, kept getting into fights with other creative team members over the direction of the book, and having Mobius 20 years later be critically slammed by readers for being pointless.
9 months ago
Anonymous
On the topic of his Knuckles solo comic. Penders also admitted he used it to recycle ideas that Archie and Sega rejected for Sonic, because keep their eyes closer to the Sonic comic, than the Knuckles one.
I wouldn't mind Ian going all out.
Evan, though, I would weary of her. She has always struck me as the type of ascended fan that, without proper control, would try to make any headcanon... well, canon
>She has always struck me as the type of ascended fan that, without proper control, would try to make any headcanon... well, canon
That's literally what Ian has spend a decade or more doing. How on Earth do you think he's different from Evan in that regards?
>How on Earth do you think he's different from Evan in that regards?
In that I think I have not seeing him go all out yet. I wouldn't mind the risk.
If, as you said, he ends up being just like I think Evan is... then Sonic in both comics and games is doomed.
>Ruby is gone, but after wearing it for so long he can now make energy constructs through force of will, like a Green Lantern
That's not how the Phantom Ruby works after Forces. It doesnt physically create anything, it just forces the perceptions of others into believing the hallucinations are real, so if they're attacked by an illusion of a coked-up Knuckles punching them in the gut, the brain will react as if its legitimately happened.
So it's like some Matrix shit where if the brain dies, the person dies? I thought he used its powers to actually create stuff, like when he conjured up the sun.
I just want the characters doing normal people stuff and acting in a relatable way.
Why is all a mission, or a research or some job? I want to see them having normal lives outside of fighting Eggman for once.
Having Sonic and Blaze going on a vacation not because of emeralds or saving the world or some other mission shit is so refreshing, they are traveling because they simply wanted to fricking travel together like normal people do.
Where is knuckles treasure hunting? Where is Tails studying in some university? Where is Amy baking or doing shopping? Why the frick they don't do normal people stuff?
Silver is such a pointless character, is he actually popular or something? I can't see any other reason for him still being around other than pad out the cast with another stupid hedgehog character.
He's so weird because the game he debuted in and everything it set up for him was deleted from the timeline and we've only gotten scraps of his rebooted self ever since.
That's why time travel should only be "what-ifs" and not actual plot. Compared Sonic CD with Sonic '06 for how time travel should be used in a narrative. Sonic works as a carefree dude who just cares about being free to do what he, and everyone else, wants; that's why when Sonic goes Super, that should be an "oh no" moment for everyone involved. Shadow works as a silent sentinel, working in the background to let everyone have an opportunity to be happy and fulfill his promise to Maria; it's what makes those moments where you see Shadow happy work, because he's meant to remain subdued and reserved.
Silver needed to be an in-between, someone who wants to be happy, but isn't sure how to do that yet, and gets very, VERY agitated when someone like Eggman comes along and starts ruining things for everyone. Silver -does- wear his emotions on his sleeve, but he's stuck with the two extremes of what his personality could be that he has no room to be himself. Silver and Amy stories where she encourages him to be more relaxed? Silver and Rogue stories where she encourages him to think about his own interests more often? He needs those. He needs to learn the difference between being carefree and careless, and serving and being a servant.
That's a nice thing that separates him from Sonic and Shadow. Other characters learn from/are influenced by them but Silver learns from other characters.
The problem with Silver is that his story has no conclusion in sight. With Trunks, he had an easily obtainable goal: give Goku medicine/fight alongside the Z-Fighters until the androids, and later Cell, were defeated. Once, he did that, he went home. Silver's goals are too vague, purposefully so, that way Sega can keep dragging him out for every little bad guy that pops up. Silver doesn't have goals or a purpose, he has excuses to linger around, but at this point, I'm sick of seeing him. '06/Rivals was the only time he was used correctly.
Well it includes the TMNT if thats any selling point.
You can see it here
https://grabber.zone/comics/sonic-idw/2022-202x-current-saga/sonic-the-hedgehog-63/
Silver's powers combined with Blaze's would strengthen the royal bloodline. Silver and Whisper are both canon sharpshooters so their kid would be a sniper that could power its own wispon.
Its always been one of the best pair ups in the series, yet sonic team overlooks it because its from handheld entries rather than a console one.
nevertheless its nice whenever they do end up teaming up
Man, this would have been the perfect place to drop a cameo of the conductor and his wife from Murder of Sonic The Hedgehog but now they wanna pussyfoot around even anthros being in a place like Spagonia
30th issue had ponies in it, thats why OP couldnt post it.
>issue
meant page
Huh? Is the horse show so against the rule you can't even post an page that is part of a storytime?
Damn... I could understand a crossover, but a page?
The show got its own board, that's how against the rules it is.
But, that was my point. This is not the horse show, it's Sonic.
Is posting a page that includes a reference to the show (or has a cameo of the cast) during a storytime thread such a deletable and bannable offense no one is willing to risk it?
If so, I'm honestly surprised it reached such extremes. Does a single horse show post outside its containment board summons a horde or what?
Its mostly avoid that guy from showing up, its not because of the rules.
I see, so it was kind of the latter.
Thanks for the explanation, anon.
Fricking zoomers I can't stand how useless lurking is for this site now
MLP is a bannable offense because 10 years ago when it was new it spawned the term "bronies" because autistic horny men spammed porn of it on all boards until moot globally banned MLP outside of the containment board created to get rid of the spam. It was back in a time mods and admins cared to actually moderate the site of spam and shitposting unlike today where it mostly runs rampet. That said posting anything with a pony will get their post deleted since it still against site rules to post anything containing a MLP character, even on red boards. It's either stays on /mlp/ or /trash/, no where else is allowed.
Hope that explains the situation. The only way OP could have still posted it is if he censored out the pony or just link from an external link, but even sometimes that's not allowed in extreme cases of jannies being trigger happy.
I mean, I was aware of why the containment was created, that's why I wouldn't have questioned it if the comic story had been a crossover.
What I didn't know is how extreme the situation still is.
But, thinking back, it also explains why I have never come across not even a meme reaction in this board.
Thanks anon.
Also posting anything horse-related will cause people to spam the thread with Barneygay pastas.
The board is basically dead though
Oh man you have no idea how dedicated mods were to this stuff, they even banned other series that took loose inspiration from MLP, mind you nobody was ever going to actually watch filly funtasia.
Kind of curious now. Is there anywhere we can actually see what the missing page is?
You can check the 30th page here guys
https://grabber.zone/comics/sonic-idw/2022-202x-current-saga/sonic-the-hedgehog-63/
>Favorite Sonic character in the IDW books?
>Shadow and Amy
I smell a shipper
>that dinner date choice
She want rouges bigger boobs it seems.
>Only Starline has an X
He is not coming back, isn't he?
HAHA SEE I DID THE REFERENCE
Potto please stop writing Silver like this. It got really boring with him acting suspicious of everyone back when you first did the plotline because everybody knew the betrayers were Geoffrey and Sally-via-roboticization.
This seems a little on-the-nose, don't you think?
Potto can't write anymore. He can only make references.
Do the writers know what spergery they've unleashed with those last two panels?
You don't have a girl blush at holding a boy's hands without knowing.
True dat
B-but she's supposed to like girls! Not b-boys!!
>one single panel of her maybe sorta liking Silver
vs
>one billion panels of her adoring Tangle and calling her the reason to live
To think that the former was enough to create a whole sect of SilverxWhisper shippers
There are no genuine Whisper x Silver shippers. There are only anti Whisper x Tangle shippers.
This is the Sonic fandom we are talking about. Of course there are some that ship them
Ian said they're just friends
Lol no. What planet do you live on? He writes tons of fanfiction of them dating and getting married.
You do know the anon is just baiting, right?
she can like both
all they need to do is convince blaze and tangle and they'll have a happy polycule <3
>convince blaze
We just saw her lust for the blue blur.
>Sally
>Elise
>now Blaze
Sonic's princess fetish is just too strong.
Speaking of, has Sonic committed any War Crimes? Apparently you need those to marry Blaze.
Drowned a few kids who pledged their allegiance Eggman a little bit after was he released from the Death Egg in Forces.
Boco probably fainted and was rushed to a hospital
Hope he doesn't make it.
Oh boy...
Very cute though
I will now buy your comic
ha I won't even lie and say that this made me quite happy, not gonna act like it's suddenly canon since not deluded but I'll take any moments with them can get
I guess there gonna be drama then.. in the future heh.
Hey Amy, ya know what you and last week's garbage have in common?
You both got DUMPED!
Ho yeah
Funny enough the only canon pairing of Amy is a lesbian one in StC.
Please do not provoke Sonaze fans. They're insufferable.
Name one ship sext that isn't.
I'm in the Sonamy clique and even I have to admit they're unbearable, on top of being so terrified of sex that they shun people who even muse at the idea of Sonic fricking Amy.
Most Rouge ships are pretty chill aside from Knuxouge who are forever tainted by the guy who threw his Mom.
>Knuxouge who are forever tainted by the guy who threw his Mom.
I have no idea what you're talking about, but maybe I'm better off not knowing.
I'm a Rails and whatever the shorthand for Knuckles and Sticks is guy myself.
>unironically, even proudly, declaring oneself a Railsgay
All ships are chill, the problem is when the hardcore shippers come into play, then all ships turn into poison, no matter which.
If they are not fighting over which character loves who, they are spawning threads with porn, or doing mental gymnastics to justify why their ship is canon (when it's not)
All ships are a problem because what kind of fricking person in their right mind would ever say they 'ship' characters. Like that's not even a red flag you're a straight moron.
Yes, but... that's real world talking, it does not fit a Sonic related thread.
Would you look at that? An example, right on schedule
Nice...
And here I thought you actually ended in the hospital and that's why you haven't posted
And, before I forget: shut up, boco!
i can't believe they called back to the character tapping easter egg
sonazechads we can't stop winning
this makes me happy , you know sonazegays are celebrating like they just won the biggest things in their lives
i bet they are already being antagonistic to sonamy or silvaze gays.
Literally Sonally but even worse this time because there is no support.
More and more hate for the ship and Blaze in general makes me so happy.
aw that's nice, been ages since got any Sonic and Blaze moments so at least happy for that
JUST
FRICK
ALREADY
Please for the love god before CWC rapes a bunch of women/&children and shoots up a mall
I don't know if it counts as fricking, but they sure slept on that igloo.
He almost said the thing from that game I played!
Ian is really trying to make up for Blaze not appearing at all during Forces huh.
Feels like every scene Blaze gets is her going "wow it sure is different to be in another dimension that I'm not the ruler of".
I'm dumb that I had to double take when I thought she said I've come to love you, when read more and was your world. anyway did like this part of the issue for obvious reasons
soooo is sonic gonna get something other than a chili dog then?
Also who made all this architecture and why haven't we seen it until now? Holy shit do your fricking worldbuilding before you make backgrounds like this.
Literally a rooftop run reference
That's impossible. There are no other games in the Sonic franchise except Forces.
It's just Spagonia, Italy in Sonic's world
Why haven't we seen it until now?
Bro.....
In the comic. Why haven't we seen Spagonia before in the comic.
Because IDW Sonic is very explicitly a side piece to the mainline Sonic games and assumes the reader is already familiar with the location?
But there are no more mainline games besides Forces.
That's you being a schizo.
Give me back my fricking continuity.
How does that relate to you being a schizo and deluding yourself that somehow Forces was the only canon game to the comic, when the comic has referenced multiple other games? Stop being a moron.
Because Forces sucks, and therefore it wants me to suffer.
>In the comic. Why haven't we seen Spagonia before in the comic.
>Why haven't we seen this place that we're now seeing
You're seeing it now you dumb frick there always has to be a first time it shows up.
Here's your IDW humans, bro!
>Inb4 retconned to be animal inhabited like Central City
>implying those aren't all "Sonic Worldians"
>Rooftop run
I love this section. The music is so sublime.
7.5/10 Pretty good if not short, I was expecting Silver to be grating with Evan writing but it was okay. From the blurb it said he would be fanboying over Whisper or something. I hope it's because they've listened to the criticism about him being an uwu baby cinnamon roll. We'll see if this continues to the nest issue. The story with Blaze and Sonic was nice, I'd like to see the characters just visiting familiar places or exploring shit over doing missions for the Restoration as if it were Archie or something. If they're going to keep that shit in, just restrict it to the Cutters in a side story and if IDW's gonna last and get the chance, a sister book. That panel though is gonna unleash the worst kind of autism.
So why does the world from Sonic Unleashed exist? I thought Sega was banning the existence of all games besides Forces.
IDW has already referenced stuff in previous games but very briefly. As it has been pointed out there haven't been any people shown. It's a weird half measure.
Someone please murder Sega. I want my Archie continuity back.
Post or Pre reboot, answer carefully.
Honestly fine with both.
Archie dropped the license in the first place
I don't.
No thanks.
>human city
>don't show any humans
Why are they avoiding them? Archie Reboot had them just fine, why is IDW so of showing any human that isn't eggman? Where did this autism come from
No clue, even the official Tails Tube said that humans live on the mainland, this was the perfect time to at least have them in the background or be the ones serving Sonic and Blaze their food.
Somewhere out there is a universe where the main canon is like Joe's world. Not fair.
>even the official Tails Tube said that humans live on the mainland, this was the perfect time to at least have them in the background or be the ones serving Sonic and Blaze their food.
I feel like this "muh humans live somewhere else always" is just an excuse to never have them show up like two worlds. They legit want to tell you mobians and humans interacting is a rare occurrence when that is bullshit. They want the bare minimum is saying they're totally a thing guyyyss! but don't want to show them for whatever reason. It's dumb
Why do you care so much about seeing humans in a Sonic story?
>show human location
>keep avoiding any humans for no reason
I can be be a bit peeved at this and want them to interact with the furries. This total separation thing they do is so dumb.
If they included human women then Sonic would be too busy trying to frick them
Sara's a catgirl, not a human.
meh, she looks 90% human so close enough.
The fact of the matter is that Sonic lore and what’s considered canon has always been determined by 'what's good for the brand' rather than the actual content. Because as long as people keep making jokes about Elise making out with Sonic, or a new cartoon they wanna shill comes out, THAT's what influences canon. So no humans besides Eggman interacting with Sonic & co and Infinite, despite being marketed as a cool new villain, is barely acknowledged these days due to Forces having a low metacritic score. He wasn’t even playable in the MOBILE game based off his debut title until FOUR YEARS later.
Sega doesn't want to show them yet as they decide their new status quo and thus would want them to be re-established in something more important than the comics, and Ian, as usual, rather than trying to work with limitations tries to force them away and then is forced himself into awkward compromises. So you get a human location without humans being allowed to be shown.
It's really hurting the more subtle aspects of world building, so many things they have to avoid and it's making the story feel disjointed.
Ian said a few months ago that they couldn't do stories in Chun-nan because people would complain about the lack of humans.
I don't get this guy.
Nothing wrong with showing the city. Besides, apparently Sega still doesn't want them to feature humans in the comic. Yet.
I'm saying it's weird that he backtracked his "this is why we can't show human locations" thing so fast, moron.
Oh. Maybe they're just really happy about not having that particular mandate anymore and shoved it in as soon as possible.
You really are illiterate, aren't you?
Eh, probably.
Half the time he says something in the podcast he's trying to be diplomatic, or in other words, lying to calm people down. He might say to a question "no we're not using Unleashed locations without humans" to calm down the person asking, while behind the scenes planning to do just that. In fact, considering how long comics take to be made, odds are he was writing this exact story while saying that publicly. Oftentimes when he denies things like this, you should take it as "actually he's going to do it and is just trying to throw you off the scent".
Why even bother lying about that? It doesn't effect anything to say "we have human locations in future issues, so unless something goes wrong you're getting that anyway."
It's more likely he saw people call that stupid and decided to set his next story in a place like that.
>Ian makes shit up so autists stop bugging him.
I mentioned this the other day and people called me a schizo who thinks Ian is an evil boogie man.
Why the frick is Lah and the Boo ghost brothers in the back ground?
What a fricking out of place cameo.
The ghost brothers were in Unleashed, if you played the sidequests you would know that. I don't blame you for not playing the sidequests there were a lot in that game.
I forgot all about those Caspar looking frickers. Never knew they were in the actual game.
Wow, Sonic actually looks like himself in this and not some weird blobby quilled traced abomination!
> take girl into a sewer full of lethal traps
> Sonic's perfect honeymoon is just him speedrunning widowhood
Now I know why Sonic doesn't get in relationships
She enjoys it, it's to spice things up.
Rushgays won so hard
> Going on vacations together with no one else around is actually a thing Sonic and Blaze do
crazy big win for rushgays.
OTP baby.
>They already figured out Duo being Mimic
Well that was fast
This might be the best Evans art has ever looked.
It's almost as if Snipers are the natural enemy of Spies.
... In the absence of Pyros.
>they figured it out in literally 2 issues
Nice 'infiltrator' there lmao
Wow, already?
There really is no time for anything to settle in this comic is there.
Well I appreciate they're not making everyone out to look like complete morons just to make the plot function.
Seems weird he went to make his move almost immediately though when he's supposed to be a master infiltrator. You'd think he'd have more patience.
Now kiss!!
When exactly did this nobody background character have the authority to give orders to actual relevant fighters? She’s like everything people hate about Sally but worse because she isn’t royalty or the leader since childhood.
Since never.
She was a background character that they decided to push to the foreground without first establishing what her actual personality was just because she was "very popular (as a background character).
That, and her breasts are huge.
Lanolin's time in the background mostly showed her as a frightened civilian, but now she's gutsy and tactical almost like she's some seasoned leader. Are they really that desperate to find a perfect Sally replacement after failing in that task using Amy when the comic first started?
Since she's the writer's personal OC. If Archie kept going Gold would've been just as insufferable
To be fair, from her perspective Silver just dropped a mountain on them. If anything Whisper should be cluing the rest in on her spotting Duo tripping Silver.
I really don't get why they're going with this instead of the passive aggressive grump Adam pitched.
Lanolin is a crappy leader, surprise!
two things. nothing here says she is a bad leader. she trusted the planet buster to not die in an empty field of nothing. he somehow failed at that. two we have been established this. reminder she got her squad wiped on her first mission. oh i hope u don’t mean cause she didn’t believe silver when he accused someone of a murder attempt
Why are we supposed to care about this sheep?
boob
>reading the page for the first time
Oh fricking hell, THIS trope is being used?
>
>next page after
Oh thank god.
Boy, is she going to feel like an idiot when she finds out Silver was right.
The OCs can't be wrong, according to the series.
>IDW Silver
>Jobs to a mildly large fish
>Archie CHADlver
>beats Enerjak in his base form
>beats the time eater 2.0
>beats DBH Trunks
Fricking This, Archie Sonic really did great justice for silver, creating a solid background for silver and making him as this Bad-ass Time cop that killed god, unfortunately it was cut short. I'm no hater to IDW but Archie Sonic was indeed better
Archie Silver was wimpy as frick.
best silver was sonic universe silver
Followed by Tails Gets Trolled Silver
The thing about Archie silver is that the setting allowed him to use his powers to visit alternate timelines like he should be able to.
That made him a much more interesting character.
Repeating the Trunks plot of averting the apocalypse definitely shouldn't be the character's only use.
Colors showed and Frontiers implies that he can time travel where and whenever he wants but IDW Silver has no control over his time travel and only deals with disasters.
>Colors showed and Frontiers implies that he can time travel where and whenever he wants
That's before the course correction.
What course correction?
The focus on canon, Tailstube, axing two worlds, etc.
Okay but Frontiers was like 10 months ago and still had that line. That came after IDW established Silver's involuntary time travel
>Frontiers
When someone asked Ian about that dialogue, he said he had no idea where that came from.
You know, if they want to go full OC team, they should use the cube wispon kid from issues ago.
But, I suppose they NEED to have at least one canon character, so people won't feel they'll skip this (they'll totally will, tho).
If this comic gets any more OCs they should be villains.
They should add more reptile characters, even one scaly girl would make me more interested to read IDW
Apparently Sega prefers small to medium sized mammals.
Lame, you have a whole ecosystem and to just stick with fuzballs is way to limiting, plus there's already a few reptile characters so not like it's some egregious deviation from canon
Sega is stupid. This is the same company that "doesn't want the Master Emerald to have any special properties".
At this point they should just destroy the Master Emerald, it really is just holding Knuckles back.
I liked the townie boy. Shame they didn't give him a name
Does anyone know what animal he's supposed to be?
Didn't they give him his own back up story in the big special version of #1?
Sonic met back up with him and they showed how he did during the Metal Virus(got infected) but still didn't give him a name.
Is this the most boobage yet?
Did they get smaller or just more pronounced?
cat fight with Rouge when.
>"Hello, I am a spy and out to backstab you."
Somebody please tell Potto that nobody likes or cares about this plot.
Evan wrote that story.
If ABT was the artist, those would be twice the size.
>oh no it's silver I have to be careful in order to not cause trouble
>takes the very first opportunity to try and kill him with a generic fish bot
gee man however did they figure you out
i'm gonna beep that sheep
>Silver is having a depressive episode
>"ok shut up you can join us"
If he was a girl there'd been an entire issue dedicated to Silver being LE SAD
Silver idolizing the nu-freedom fighters is still the dumbest thing ever. Dude helped kill the god of time once, he’s so far beyond these shitters it’s comical.
I mean, Silver doesn't remember that, but he has helped Sonic's group of friends and defeated another fire creature called the Ifrit once. He also joined the Resistance in Forces. So his behavior in IDW is odd.
>Dude helped kill the god of time once
To be fair... that "never" happened
Sonic and Blaze vaguely remember 06 in generations. Silver and Blaze feel some kind of bond with each other in Colors DS. It still happened but nobody remembers the details very clearly.
Elise also sorta remembers too.
>"Make the more popular character respect, even admire your OC or OC organization"
It's a cheap way creating false validation for OCs, almost "fanfic 101".
Are we gonna pretend Silver is a well respected character by fans
Like half if the people who do like him still call him pathetic
He managed to retain a solid fanbase despite debuting in a complete trainwreck of a game. He deserves better than to be some simp slobbering for Potto’s dykes.
A fan base that routinely interprets him as a borderline incompetent dork who just happens to have really strong psychic powers, Silver fans don't even think he deserves better than this
How many people interpreted him this way before the IDW comics?
Just as many because Silver has largely been seen as a dumbass since '06
Silver fans are split between loving how Evan wrote him and hating how she wrote him. The half that calls him pathetic are Evan’s “sweet uwu cinnamon roll” Silver fans.
This is why ESP Silver should be canon. Then we could have both an Archie-like Silver and idiot baby IDW Silver.
Archie Silver was also an idiot, he was less of a baby I will admit, but he still got treated like a b***h on occasion
Yeah the traitor thing was one of Ian's first dumb dragged out storylines and it was really frustrating watching him make the same mistakes over and over again but he really shined in Sonic Universe where he was allowed to just help people and fight big enemies. He was more of an awkward teenage boy than a maldeveloped baby person so it was believable when he was both being badass and got punked.
This, I truly don't understand this, Silver power is psychokinesis right(he fricking move things with his mind) wouldn't that make him the most powerful character at least in base form? Why did they write him as this weak useless kid who do nothing and sit on the sideline everytime
>wouldn't that make him the most powerful character at least in base form
Weaker than Shadow since introduction, weaker than Sonic in all of his game appearances after '06
oh gee, its green hill again
Claiming that twink moving the car
I came to this thread to see the blaze sonic date and got bunny dicky as well, nice
Wait silver is a kid?
>he can't hear me i'll save it for later
kek
>Wait silver is a kid?
When they had ages, Silver was 14, making him younger than the non-child cast
Yeah, they're in sidequests for Spagonia and Adabat, so it makes sense they'd show up here
You'd think people would recognize it considering it showed up in Unleashed and Generations (and in the Unleashed mobile game, but nobody played that)
>When they had ages
Oh right, they removed the ages from Sonic Channel a few months ago...
Why they did that, again?
Probably because they realized having a 12yo trying to date Sonic was a bit weird
I'm glad they did. Just have them be young adults of non-specific age like in Boom
Since when Japs care about e-girls or shotas?
Boy, SoA must have pushed them hard for that...
Sega have always been cowards, it was just a matter of time
And now another birthday for Sonic in Frontiers, meaning at least two years have gone by now but running that through everyone's listed ages is a logistical headache so they just ditched them.
>People kept track of how many years went by in the games
I blame modern cartoon and videogames
two birthdays=two years isn't much keeping track
Or rather, gave a crap about it.
Even with two "on screen" birthdays, Sonic never stopped being 15 to my eyes
He was 14 but ages aren't a thing anymore because they couldn't keep up with the frickery of Sonic's birthday in Generations and time leaps like the six month gap in Forces.
Is it another boring issue about the lesbian OC triple?
Mimic.
What an butthole
Yeesh, these comics are awful, just souless
Sonaze chads won
Rate the issue
pretty good/10. I liked Duo, and seeing Sonic and Blaze run around Spagonia without needing to throw in a battle. I'd have preferred the city to be populated though
10/10
pretty good
2/10 snoozefest. You can tell the writers are expecting the book to be shit canned at any moment.
8/20 pages dedicated to Sonic in his own comic
I guess it was a step up from the 0 pages that was last issue.
First story 5/10. Second 8/10
I don't care for IDW Sonic at all. This is the first time in ages I'm impressed with it. Didn't care for the first story but Evans art was better than ever. Then the second one started like a lame IDW sonic story (oh we're avoiding death traps but it's just Tuesday) and then they jump out the sewer and the art is jaw dropping. I loved the dialogue. It reminded me of the Ian Flynn Archie stories I love. Sonic got back his banter.
5/10
Not good or bad. It's just there. Both stories felt like backup stories.
I'm the "crying lesbians, pit of lava" guy, and I actually feel like this issue was pretty decent. I posted this yesterday:
>Mimic fricking with Silver in reasonably subtle ways
>Silver and Whisper are already onto Mimic, so the arc won't be dragged out for 12 issues
>Sonic and Blaze actually get to visit Spagonia, a named location instead of some generic Badnik base or village
>Whisper, Belle, and Tangle all show up without crying
If the rest of the comic was this quality, I'd like it better.
At least it means that this arc won't drag on for 10+ issues like the Zombot/Surge arcs did.
>Silver and Whisper are already onto Mimic, so the arc won't be dragged out for 12 issues
There's nothing disproving that, other tjan Surge's impending return which who'll sieze the focus.
Yeah, but I had thought that they'd defeat Mimic and then move onto the Surge arc.
Aw shit, really? This is gonna be painful then.
>At least it means that this arc won't drag on for 10+ issues like the Zombot/Surge arcs did.
This arc is gonna drag actually because in the cover for issue 70 I think Duo/Mimic is still there.
You have to remember the other issues are happening simultaneously, so in universe only a day has passed when suddenly surge and kit appear
Okay but the arc is still taking over half a dozen issues and months of real world time.
They alluded to Infinite but haven't mentioned him by name.
At least the next four issues and even longer if it takes a back seat to this new Surge stuff
Why is everything about this comic so fricking stupid and boring?
Because Evan Stanley and Ian Flynn are bad writers.
I like it well enough
Having B-plots in general makes this more enjoyable than urban warfare which was pretty underwhelming, should've done it way sooner
Agreed, it is super annoying
Part 1: 6/10. Lanolin is getting carried hard by her ballasts, Silver still isn't acting like Vergil at the end of DMCV, but I'm glad that Tangle wasn't insufferable and Whisper was the only one to notice realize that Duo is actually Mimic.
Part 2: 8/10. Lovely art, but it feels empty. Sonic does feel and look like Sonic here. The Sonaze shiptease and its consequences will be a disaster for /sthg/.
Good art.
First story was boring but inoffensive.
Second was actively bad, but people will defend it because shipping.
I would love a similar story like that between Sonic and Knuckles with them going treasure hunting and getting into bar brawls like bros.
These little nice moments reveal character and move relationships forward, something that NEVER happens in this series for some reason.
It was good, a step up from the previous one, the highlight was the Blaze and Sonic story, think a story just focused on the two of them was long overdue and felt like a love letter to fans of the Rush games
first story 7/10
second 9/10
Is Evan shoving Silver into the lesbian OC shit to justify it as a story not completely about OCs? Even though Silver's involvement in the actual story is basically inconsequential?
Most probably. It is no secret they would rather write about their OCs than about the Sonic cast... because the mandates are stopping them from turning the Sonic cast into their OCs.
I'm not sure what I prefer out of Stanley only wanting to write about her OCs and Flynn's reliance on game references.
Good issue, good arc. Hope they keep it up.
I always like how obvious it is in these covers that they're mostly only interested in drawing their OC trio and Sonic is only there out of obligation
IDW Silver is weird as a character because the Rivals games weren't considered canon for the first few years of the book so they seemingly defaulted to his 06 origin and wrote him as hailing from an apocalypse with no people or plant life. Making him very naive, childish and emotionally dependent on Blaze which is out of line with his post 06 appearances where he's more headstrong and confidant. With this issue he's written more in line with his post 06 self and even his eyes are drawn like they are in the games(before his eyes were drawn as conjoined circles that weren't split by his brow like they are here). I'm very happy about this even if he still retains elements meant for his more childish interpretation like his Diamond Cutter fanboyism.
The Rivals games are considered canon now btw
>rivals is canon
>still no Nega
No one wants to write him
>Sega arbitrarily deciding what's canon and what's not
Some things never change, huh?
I think a lot of headaches would've been avoided had Sega simply provided these people with a bible of what to and what not to do. If Sega wasn't going to take the initiative, then the writers should've at least suggested one be made for them before the comic started.
True, but the fact that a company just flipflops on the canon of their own dam games is still... weird. 06 has a story reason for why it never happened, but then you get shit like Eggman Nega, is he from Blaze's world or is he a descendent of Eggman? Or is he both?
>I think a lot of headaches would've been avoided had Sega simply provided these people with a bible of what to and what not to do.
They did, and people like Ian proceeded to shit about it for years and push to change it. If you're frustrated that canon keeps changing, that's the answer- the American side of things getting fans hired as people working in the "lore" of the series who are trying to change things to their liking.
Only dumb nerds get upset about it. What are you, a dumb nerd?
This issue makes it clear he's more glad to be part of a team and his whisper fanboyism isn't a thing at all.
Kinda odd to enforce canon on a series that isn't canon (even if Reboot was made to be more like the games), story even heavily featured an AOSTH character
>Kinda odd to enforce canon on a series that isn't canon
They don't want another Penders to occur (i.e. even if non-canon, they want two separates universes that could divide fans)
>Silver Age
Hey wait a minute... that's an Archie story
/sthg/ told me that SEGA had to part in that, and approved none of it, unlike IDW
Sega became more hand on in the reboot, then more hands on again with IDW
That's because everybody feels the need to lie about the BTS constantly. Sega was always involved and giving instructions etc. It's their brand it's just common sense.
The Rivals games were never released in Japan, I believe.
Silver in this issue feels like his TSR self(The Japanese version that has anxiety and tries to solve mysteries not the English one that's mentally moronic)
>Human location
>Zero humans
Why even do this just to have a shitty Blaze Sonic ship moment? Why bother? And why even Unleashed instead of using an actual place in Sonic 06?
Huh? But anon, you're supposed to be clapping at the reference
>Amy got cucked by a princess again.
Why does this keep happening, Amybros?
Amy will find a nice tall human male to be her boyfriend as revenge
cherish the near normalcy of this thread. Once the sun rises, all of the /sthg/gays are gonna crowd in and shit up the thread with dumb argumentation about lesbians and flimsy "criticisms" because they just hate the comic and can't outright admit it.
It's strange how Cinemaphile of all places is the most normal about the comic, Twitter's busy trying to find reasons to shit on the artists and writers somehow.
That and Sonaze shiphomosexualry.
You do know this issue are reposted from /sthg/ like all the others, right?
>Twitter's busy trying to find reasons to shit on the artists and writers somehow.
Really? Considering the made a lesbian couple, I'm surprised they have a problem... guess it is because Sonic has not come out as trans yet, or haven't been drawn with his chest scars
>guess it is because Sonic has not come out as trans yet, or haven't been drawn with his chest scars
The chest scars already happened, that was Surge. I mean, Scourge.
>Scourge's chest scars
Don't you mean "ugly tattoo", that good ol' Ken Penders got rid off for our sake?
I just find it somewhat bland
Evan likes to write Silver very soft and dorky instead of being like a Hedgehog Trunks in the games. The problem with this change is that IDW Silver is supposed to be like Game Silver in the comic and that makes his change in attitude weird and inconsistent. Like, some days he acts like Trunks with more attitude and other days he acts like a Steven Universe character?
That's the problem with Silver. In 06, he had a history of fighting and destroying Iblis. With all that wiped from the timeline, he doesn't have all that experience anymroe.
So now he's written like an inexperienced hero. None of that bad stuff happened anymore.
Not true. Silver is still supposed to be experienced post-06 as well. He has conflicts with Eggman Nega and works to secure the future, he just doesn't have that desperate aspect to him like in 06 anymore due to the change of time. IDW Silver acts like a complete contrast.
>Eggman Nega
Eh, not really. The problem with Sonic Rivals is that those games never released in Japan. Ignoring that, Silver wasn't much use in 06. Sure, Shadow got trapped in a cuck cage but Silver couldn't stop Eggman from taking over 99% of the world. He doesn't have the same chops he had in 06.
While he doesn't have the same grit anymore, he definitely isn't a lightweight.
They've sort of did this in Team Sonic Racing in the english version as well.
The game almost nobody played because it didn't have other Sega IPs like the others?
>The game almost nobody played because it didn't have other Sega IPs like the others?
And? The point is that it's also one of the most recent character portrayals, unfortunately.
So what the IDW naysayers said was true huh? There's nothing interesting happening other than moronic shipping
WOOOIII let's gooo I'm ready for the disappointment. Let's dig in
So wait.
Knuckles and Amy are on Angel Isand doing sumn and later they’re gonna fight the Babylon Rogues
Sonic and Blaze are doing random stupid bullshit because Blaze needs a tourguide apparently
Shadow is being IDW Shadow, probably sleeping in a trashcan or standing in the middle of the road again
Cream and Vanilla are baking a cake for the Chaotix and the skunks are with them doing that too
Silver is fangirling over muh heckin Diamondcutters
Surge and Kit are auditioning to join the Restoration Lesbian Breakfast Club
Mimic is cosplaying as a femboy
Green Skunk is sexting Mimic while he cosplays as a femboy
The Diamondcutters are crying about their trauma and how Silver is ruining their trauma practice
Where are Tails and Rouge?
After that gay picnic the Diamondcutters had was over, Rouge grabbed Tails by his neckscruff and informed him he’s gonna be spending the weekend in her Club Rouge bedroom
Tails is working on the Tornado. Forever.
It's crazy how much more investable the spagonia story is because they actually took place in a sonic level. IDW needs to start creating locations that feel like levels
Another boring issue where nothing happens. Holy shit get some new writers on this book already.
GIVE ME BACK MY FRICKING ARCHIE CONTINUITY
So instead of the boring lesbian couple we got a boring straight couple. That's even more boring!
Heterosexuality isn't SJW cancer that raped Adventure Time.
Fan comics do what IDWon't.
Convinced no one actually liked how Silver acted before or actually like Silver and b***hing just to b***h.
How much does IDW have left? They said they had a year to turn things around a while back and it doesn't feel like that's happening.
Until the end of this year IIRC so about 4-5 months
Wew! And Evan participated in portfolio day and ABT has been heavily advertising that he's open for comic work on any big project. Things aren't looking good.
He's good to work with.
The trick is to tell him he has full creative control over bust size
Yeah, I'll remember that next time. Kat's way too small here
I always admire artists who have the patience for speedlines, which I very much don't have.
He'll do great humans if you let him
Okay bored now.
>Wew! And Evan participated in portfolio day and ABT has been heavily advertising that he's open for comic work on any big project. Things aren't looking good.
Or they're just testing the waters for new artists after 4-5 years of mostly ABT and Evan. Maybe that's why this issue was split, maybe we'll get more of Hammerstrom who seems to be very much what fans want to see more of.
They'll survive.
They always do.
Two more weeks
Thanks
Ok guys what songs do you like to listen to as you read sonic?
nice, I listen to basic b***h shit like these
Oh Danko... Never change.
Where were all the hot, busty female rapists when I was a shota? :^(
Based ShotaGENIUS
They’re literally canon you know. Rouge bets Tails in a fight in exchange for his first kiss in Sonic Battle. It’s just very important to make the fact they are canonically having sex with eachother in the canon games, clear.
True, they are canonically attracted to eachother, and she did canonically make out with him in Battle. They're basically married in the canon games but the plot just doesn't put spotlight on it
>Rouge canonically loves preying on little boys
How did they get away with it?
>Me when they bring up a boring OC
Knuckles continues to be based
ikr he also did it again later in that comic. But to be fair i wouldn't care either
>Knuckles proving time after time, why he is the best character
Well, at least the IDW team got something right.
Nah, just kidding, they got many things right, though their stories could use a little work
A larger cast means more pieces to move, and there's only so many panels allowed each issue. Stories work best with 2-4 main characters throughout, not including the antagonist and their 1-3 cronies. Having an A/B plot with two hero teams, one filled to the brim (Diamond Cutters), just really slows things down.
really that's the thing I feel idw has the potential(the team not the company they seem to be donezo) but yeah they have interesting ideas but they've gotten to obsessed with ocs. Like I don't want a full year of tangle and whisper I want sonic, knuckles and tails.
Basically their biggest flaw is making characters overstay their welcome, we used to love whisper here but they made her whole character being sad wolf. Same thing with surge we all hyped her up to hell and even after her first lost the jobber memes were that just a meme also got to take responsibilty as one of if not the guy that started it Then she really went and kept jobbing and crying. Basically i feel it's why they made crying against the rules in the first place because you get these weird crying breakfast friends moments.
Also when it comes to the game characters funny enough I think that's where they are at their best which is why the OCs get so much hate.
>the jobber memes were that just a meme
No they aren't. The comic wastes 6 straight issues on Surge constantly fighting and losing to Sonic, with nothing interesting happening besides Goku telling her to turn good and not-Scourge getting angrier and growing a tulpa.
No i meant initially anon, the next part says then she kept fricking jobbing and crying. But yeah i mean in issue 50 when they fought and she lost we all were like all that for her to lose damn what a jobber. But then it just kept happening
DBZ memetards being prescient.
The idea of Sonic taking vacations at all is something that never crossed my mind.
Isn't he like, in permanent vacations for being able to go wherever he wants to?
Vacations are for people with jobs and responsibilities. The closest Sonic has to that fighting Eggman.
*The closest Sonic has to that IS fighting Eggman.
> Brining in Tails, Knuckles, and half the cast, the tornado, all while Eggman and an army of badniks are out there to kill you and you can't even stop to chill because the world might explode or some shit like that.
> Just traveling around the world with a cute cat waifu eating in fancy restaurants and sleeping in igloos without any sense of urgency or world threatening danger.
The closest thing to having a normal life I ever seen Sonic having just for the sake of it, In Sonic Unleashed the world has being fricking ripped apart.
>canon, canon, canon
Assuming IDW doesn't go under, how long until Sage in IDW?
Ain't happening.
IDW takes place right after Forces so it's also before TSR and Frontiers. They'd have to do a time skip.
Years, honestly. Sega has to have an internal debate on how she should be handled before they let anyone else touch her, and they STILL haven't done anything with Infinite. I don't even know if he's been mentioned by name in IDW.
Shame they won't let Infinite come back this comic is in dire need of villains. He's basically an oc donut but it's still something.
Infinite is either an Enerjak level threat or just some mercenary butthole depending on whether or not he has the Ruby. They'd have to give him a different power source for him to not be too powerful or too WEAK
The phantom ruby's powers were retconned as manipulating "virtual reality" so I don't really know if he's Enerjak tier who ACTUALLY can manipulate reality
The Phantom Ruby is just way too big of a confusing mess.
>Infinite comes back as Shadow rogue, hates Shadow for killing his team; now Shadow's Black Manta
>"I AM NOT WEAK" crap and chuuni behavior retconned/handwaved as the Phantom Ruby fricking with his head
>Ruby is gone, but after wearing it for so long he can now make energy constructs through force of will, like a Green Lantern.
>Still not OP enough to make a Sun or entire armies anymore.
Would this work?
>Ruby is gone, but after wearing it for so long he can now make energy constructs through force of will, like a Green Lantern
That's not how the Phantom Ruby works after Forces. It doesnt physically create anything, it just forces the perceptions of others into believing the hallucinations are real, so if they're attacked by an illusion of a coked-up Knuckles punching them in the gut, the brain will react as if its legitimately happened.
>If you poop in the dream, you poop for real!
never, we're stuck Post-Forces and will never go Post-Frontier
>the level of delusional ship posting in the thread
I'll admit I haven't posted in a Sonic IDW storytime thread in months, is this usual?
Yeah, this is normal, expected even.
That's just sad... it is always the same troll? I remember the other guy that always went crazy if anyone even mentioned Archie.
Like the rest of Cinemaphile Sonic threads have a revolving door of schizos
We getting Sonaze
It won't last.
Really the biggest takeaway from this is seeing how the fandom will lose its shit again over shipping and force In to respond again.
Tell Potto he should stop working on Sonic so we can stop holding out hope.
Give me back my continuity.
Stop having mandates.
Mandates exist for a reason.
You do not want Ian or Evan going all out with no restraints.
Why not? Potto made good stories in the Universe imprint, and Stanley could write some really fun shipfics.
>Stanley could write some really fun shipfics.
People like you are why we're in this shitty predicament.
No, shipping is the cure to sterile cancer.
>Stanley could write some really fun shipfics.
Gay ships are not fun... and I'm not even talking about Tangle and Whisper
>still calling him Potto
will you die of old age already and spare the rest of the world
>stop calling him by his name
No.
Citation needed.
It's not his name, it's his username, that he hasn't used in over a decade. You're outing yourself as an early 2000s furgay who'd know him in those spaces back then, and everything that the comics become shit for when trying to appeal to you and yours.
I wasn't around for that. I just have a belief that someone's internet handle should be the only name they're known as. It should be carved into their arms and skull.
And the comics became shit not because of furries, but because of three stupid writers who hated each other.
>those spaces
DeviantART and Fanfiction.net are a click away and still super popular. You don't gotta call them "those spaces" like they're some forgotten internet forum.
If they're not Twitter, Reddit, and AO3, nobody uses them. Keep up grandpa
People still use FFN (for some ungodly reason). Probably more than AO3, depending on the fandom. There's tons of great writers who haven't migrated or don't crosspost, which is a bit of an issue, since the mods seem to be more active and have purged a few smut authors over the course of the month.
>keep up grandpa
He says unironically in an image board that opened in 2003.
Fine...
>"gay ships written by Stanley are no fun"
Happy, now?
So you have no proof that Stanley can't write gay ships.
If Tangle and Whisper themselves are not enough for you, you can always check her fancomic
Tangle and Whisper have sucked because it's been Potto at the helm, and because Sega has banned homosexuality without plausible deniability.
Yea I do. I'm just not moronic enough to think a big company will just say 'just let the artists do anything they want'
Like Archie did...
Sega overreacted.
Sega underreacted, if anything.
Sega deserves to burn for ruining this comic.
What comic, Archie? The one that was shit and was cancelled because Archie themselves decided they'd rather focus on their own IPs after ruining the contracted paperwork for decades?
Anon, he spent Archie hammering characters into his interpretation, and then his entire IDW career has been him trying to hammer characters into his headcanons, and when not allowed to do so, going and crying in his podcast. He's the exact same as Evan in that regards, probably even more so- Evan tends to at least be professional enough to shut up about it comparatively.
If only... no control leads to Penders...es, too much control leads to current Flynns.
We need balance. Like Reboot Flynn.
Reboot Archie fricking sucked. The continuity all got chucked out a window and replaced with a new, offscreen one a la Nu52. Also the redesigns sucked.
I liked the worldbuilding for Reboot Archie, but it never really went anywhere. They stretched out the Unleashed adaptation so long that when the comic ended, it felt like they hadn't done anything with it.
That's my thing as well, loved that they did adapt the game, but maybe it should have been shorter. Not helping is at the start of the reboot they had that whole "will they remember the old universe?" thing. What REALLY didn't help was the second crossover with Megaman.
It didn't. Even back in the day people were talking about 'mandates' and such. Even back when Penders and Bollers were writing it Sega was telling them to do or not do certain things. This will always be, and always has been the case since it's a big brand for kids.
>Even back when Penders and Bollers were writing it Sega was telling them to do or not do certain things
Penders himself has admitted that, while they were monitored, half-way through Sega stopped giving input. He literally admitted it allowed him to do whatever he wanted.
And that's fine. The problem is that Penders, Bollers and Gabrie were all stupid idiots.
Not arguing against that. I'm just saying we have already seen what happens with unhinged writers taking control with no supervision.
No, we've seen what a hack can do when nobody's competent enough to tell him "Dude you're writing Star Trek plagiarism and making everyone boring because you're trying too hard to be X-Men, knock it off and get rid of this go-nowhere lore and cyber-molestation shit".
At least Penders managed to fix Antoine before he left, Bollers's idea for him was just boring.
Unhinged writers, hacks... potato, potahto.
Unhinged writers have too much creativity. Hacks have too little and tend to actively plagiarize other people's creativity without caring if they suck outside their initial context.
>Unhinged writers have too much creativity
One can have too much creativity. Doesn't mean one knows how to properly use it.
Way to say absolutely nothing.
Precisely. Write a lot, and say nothing at all.
I'm not replying to (You) again until (You) have something substantive to say.
I mean, you are the one who keeps replying whenever I thought we reached an understanding. Now you pull the "I'm not replying anymore" stuff?
I'm not even disagreeing with the things you been posting.
You think the mandates should stay.
I think Sega should have every single member of its executive staff lined up and shot at a firing range.
We're at completely irreconcilable places.
Mandates are what seperate fanfiction from official content, or at least that's what they SHOULD be.
I feel Whisper is the ultimate breach of "fanfiction should be not official", a blatant fanwank creation you'd find in a SonicxMetal Gear Solid crossover fanfic given official clout.
I liked Whisper initially, though. Only initial issue was that being the Wispon user linked her permanently to the cancer that was Colors and Forces.
Her real issues came when every single scene she was in got consumed by whining and crying, when that really should've stayed resolved with the end of Tangle&Whisper. Also they can't just say out loud that 1: Her teammates died, or 2: she's a lesbian, because death and homosexuality are against the mandates. So she just constantly reopens all the wounds that this current era of Sonic comic is plagued with
Frick, I should've said they were violations of the Hays Code, not just against the mandates.
Hard to tell who's who in an anonymous imageboard.
>Hard to tell who's who in an anonymous imageboard
Specially when you are taking the tole of "one sane man". No hard feelings, I've been there myself.
>"one sane man"
Kek, meant to type "only sane man"
The Wispon itself is also a big issue. There's always the eternal question "why doesn't Whisper just shoot -enemy here- dead?"
>There's always the eternal question "why doesn't Whisper just shoot -enemy here- dead?"
She only saves that for people like Mimic and Eggman but something always gets in her way.
I'm not sure if the lesbian thing with Whisper really counts as an issue, since I doubt there'd ever be a story with her coming to terms with the fact she's attracted to women because those are no fun to write unless you've got a personal bone to pick.
Hypothetically, say Tangle was a guy and not a single thing else was different. I really don't think it would help or hurt Whisper's situation in the slightest. Maybe from the perspective of fans who are tired of Evan's inability to leave LGBT-themes out of her writing, but from a meaningful standpoint, eh.
>Evan's inability to leave LGBT-themes out of her writing
But that's the thing... what are the LGBT themes? Other than, "she likes girls, he likes boys, it likes both"?
Anon's point is, how does the fact that these two are a gay couple affect anything? How has it affected their two appearances so far, functionally?
It doesn't, that was the point of
. People really just don't read here.
Have you not read her fan stuff?
The general implication is people usually warn others to NOT read Evan's off-the-clock material.
I concede I've never read it myself, but from what I've seen first hand, it's not something I'd be interested in.
I don't read fanfiction at all anymore. Too many voices in my head overcorrecting grammar and character dialogue.
Smart.
And of course, we can't forget her OC Gold. "She's either gay or bi, I haven't decided, tee hee!"
That's old news, Evan firmly settled on "Gold is a lesbian" and has since begun making art that blatantly confirms it.
>Maybe from the perspective of fans who are tired of Evan's inability to leave LGBT-themes out of her writing
Homophobes make up one of the loudest parts of Cinemaphile's userbase. They seem completely incapable of moving on from Korrasami and Bubbline and insist the only solution is to enslave women and bar them from workplaces.
Evan's Ghost of the Future comic loudly features the following
-Disabled characters such as Silver's little sister who needs a wheelchair to walk
-openly bisexual Sonic and Shadow, who by word of Evan will eventually end up in a polyamorous relationship with Tikal
-gratuitous violence such as Metal Sonic forcing his spiked fingertips through Silver's palms
-OCs who make it a point to make sure the reader knows they are not heterosexual.
Most of those sound cool. I'm just confused by Tikal being the third wheel in Sonadow.
just plain gay isn't anything special at this point, buy polyamory makes people pay attention.
No I mean why Tikal. Where the hell is Amy or Knuckles and why can't they be in the poly
What the frick is up with female fans making fan fics about sonic and shadow being in weird poly relationships
Same reason Poison Ivy and Harley Quinn are in a lesbian relationship now.
>openly bisexual Sonic and Shadow
You wouldn't know if Evan hadn't said anything
Tangle and Whisper have the same problem as Craig and Tweek from South Park where their relationship has consumed them as characters and there's more focus on them as an item than as individuals. This can happen to straight couples too but gay/lesbian pairs suffer from this more because the writers have to consider "representation". (even though Tangle and Whisper aren't officially an item)
>have a bunch of characters based on Metal Gear
>don't have Solid Snake The Snake
Lyric probably tainted snakes for Sega forever.
yet
>You think the mandates should stay
No... we were discussing about whether there were mandates back in the beginning of Archie and the post-Flynn era. And then the matter over "unhinged writers vs hacks"
I think you mixed me with other anons you might have been replying to
Penders also said he left because he got sick of having to do what they said. I think he even said he left because he didn't want to do a Shadow the Hedgehog. Adaptation
You wonder if Penders leaving the book was entirely thanks to hating Shadow? Maybe Sega stepping in was never necessary.
Penders didn't leave he got fired along with the rest of the Archie team for being a bunch of morons.
No, he threatened to quit unless he got his way. But because this was when Sega was cleaning house, they basically told him "theres the door, don't hit your ass on the way out".
Penders was still doing lettering early into Ian's run.
>Penders also said he left because he got sick of having to do what they said
Well, Penders changes his version of the events every 2 weeks, anyway, I just took part of his statement from the DYKG video.
Although, considering his ego, he maybe was referring to them not allowing him to transform all characters into humans because writing for furry characters was not up to his level
He left because his Knuckles solo book got cancelled with no warning, kept getting into fights with other creative team members over the direction of the book, and having Mobius 20 years later be critically slammed by readers for being pointless.
On the topic of his Knuckles solo comic. Penders also admitted he used it to recycle ideas that Archie and Sega rejected for Sonic, because keep their eyes closer to the Sonic comic, than the Knuckles one.
I wouldn't mind Ian going all out.
Evan, though, I would weary of her. She has always struck me as the type of ascended fan that, without proper control, would try to make any headcanon... well, canon
>She has always struck me as the type of ascended fan that, without proper control, would try to make any headcanon... well, canon
That's literally what Ian has spend a decade or more doing. How on Earth do you think he's different from Evan in that regards?
>How on Earth do you think he's different from Evan in that regards?
In that I think I have not seeing him go all out yet. I wouldn't mind the risk.
If, as you said, he ends up being just like I think Evan is... then Sonic in both comics and games is doomed.
Here to post that Sonaze sucks and Silver deserves better.
Maybe the lesbians are both bi, this would be a win for Silver
>Silver becomes a harem protagonist
He does have the personality for it
That's Shadow's thing. He has the most story driven girl interactions in the series.
Thanks!
So it's like some Matrix shit where if the brain dies, the person dies? I thought he used its powers to actually create stuff, like when he conjured up the sun.
Forces was stupid, who knew.
Also it's not even virtual reality, the way they described it would make it AUGMENTED reality.
Are there any blogs or forums left saved from the Full Penders era (150-159)?
>blaze acts like a normal fricking person and not like a moronic cartoon character
>shes one of the most beloved characters outside of sonic tails and knucks
gee whiz i wonder why
Because she's a female Sonic and a potential love interest for him despite the fact that'll never happen.
I just want the characters doing normal people stuff and acting in a relatable way.
Why is all a mission, or a research or some job? I want to see them having normal lives outside of fighting Eggman for once.
Having Sonic and Blaze going on a vacation not because of emeralds or saving the world or some other mission shit is so refreshing, they are traveling because they simply wanted to fricking travel together like normal people do.
Where is knuckles treasure hunting? Where is Tails studying in some university? Where is Amy baking or doing shopping? Why the frick they don't do normal people stuff?
>Where is Tails studying in some university?
Man runs his own business I think he's beyond university
Just caught up with the comic to read this latest issue, I thought she was a lesbian?
Technically she's open because official romance is forbidden
"Officially" Tangle is not a lesbian.
But she is intentionally written as one.
Someone post that panel from a few issues ago where her and Whisper are in front of the lesbian pride flag
Silver is such a pointless character, is he actually popular or something? I can't see any other reason for him still being around other than pad out the cast with another stupid hedgehog character.
Silver is supposed to be the Trunks of the group, but just like Trunks in Dragonball, he has absolutely no opportunity to grow as a character.
He's so weird because the game he debuted in and everything it set up for him was deleted from the timeline and we've only gotten scraps of his rebooted self ever since.
That's why time travel should only be "what-ifs" and not actual plot. Compared Sonic CD with Sonic '06 for how time travel should be used in a narrative. Sonic works as a carefree dude who just cares about being free to do what he, and everyone else, wants; that's why when Sonic goes Super, that should be an "oh no" moment for everyone involved. Shadow works as a silent sentinel, working in the background to let everyone have an opportunity to be happy and fulfill his promise to Maria; it's what makes those moments where you see Shadow happy work, because he's meant to remain subdued and reserved.
Silver needed to be an in-between, someone who wants to be happy, but isn't sure how to do that yet, and gets very, VERY agitated when someone like Eggman comes along and starts ruining things for everyone. Silver -does- wear his emotions on his sleeve, but he's stuck with the two extremes of what his personality could be that he has no room to be himself. Silver and Amy stories where she encourages him to be more relaxed? Silver and Rogue stories where she encourages him to think about his own interests more often? He needs those. He needs to learn the difference between being carefree and careless, and serving and being a servant.
That's a nice thing that separates him from Sonic and Shadow. Other characters learn from/are influenced by them but Silver learns from other characters.
The problem with Silver is that his story has no conclusion in sight. With Trunks, he had an easily obtainable goal: give Goku medicine/fight alongside the Z-Fighters until the androids, and later Cell, were defeated. Once, he did that, he went home. Silver's goals are too vague, purposefully so, that way Sega can keep dragging him out for every little bad guy that pops up. Silver doesn't have goals or a purpose, he has excuses to linger around, but at this point, I'm sick of seeing him. '06/Rivals was the only time he was used correctly.
Have they not just made it so that he's stranded in the past at this point? Make it a one way trip and the problem is solved
Silver is supposed to be a traveler from another world like Blaze but we never get to see his world
Wait, is the 30th page just an ad for an MLP comic? Is that it?
Its an ad for the endless summer collection, where each IP including the pony one will have one shot issue.
So nothing worth posting anyway.
Well it includes the TMNT if thats any selling point.
You can see it here
https://grabber.zone/comics/sonic-idw/2022-202x-current-saga/sonic-the-hedgehog-63/
Well, the TMNT SMA comics have been great so far. But this still screams "filler fluff".
shut the FRICK UP boco
What would happen if Silver had kids with Blaze or Whisper
Silver's powers combined with Blaze's would strengthen the royal bloodline. Silver and Whisper are both canon sharpshooters so their kid would be a sniper that could power its own wispon.
why not both?
>Silver and Whisper know better than to have kids
Smart.
>blaze and whisper live in two separate dimensions so the chances of them finding out about silver's cheating is low
clever hedgehog
You just know he has another side piece in the future too
Someone needs to get that hedgehog neutered
>silver prematurely ejaculates and lanolin chastises him to do better next time
The RESTORATION SUCKS!
How long until Surge comes back?
Four months.
Like 4 more #
> Would be happy to see Sonic and Blaze going on a date for once
> issue shows they go on several across many days through different countries
Expectations successfully exceeded
Blaze is truly the only one who can keep up with Sonic.
Sorry, Amybros.
She'll be fine
Ew, don't punish poor Silver like that.
> Wanted ONE official picture of Sonic and Blaze in a date
> Get several
Good day
Its always been one of the best pair ups in the series, yet sonic team overlooks it because its from handheld entries rather than a console one.
nevertheless its nice whenever they do end up teaming up
Man, this would have been the perfect place to drop a cameo of the conductor and his wife from Murder of Sonic The Hedgehog but now they wanna pussyfoot around even anthros being in a place like Spagonia
Sonaze is the only ship with chemistry and this issue proved it. Sonamy and Silvaze suck.
On the one hand I want to say don't stir the pot but on the other I also completely agree with you
This issue opened the floodgates, as in there are no SEGA mandates against it.
I am pretty sure Amy will get her spot in the sun as well.
It's been great seeing twitter turn against Lanolin today.
How come?
what if the endless summer comic includes a crossover with the magical horse show...