>If all of humanity moves into space they can understand one another after they become Newtypes and end conflict!
>Amuro and Char
>Haman and Judau
>Haman and Kamille
>Jerid and Kamille
>Scirocco and Kamille
>Full Frontal and Banana
etc
All Newtypes, none of them were able to understand or accept one another in the end. Being a Newtype is the biggest meme in existence.
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>Char
>newtype
Feddy revisionism.
He had funnels and psychoframe on the Sazabi.
He needed the gay headset to use it
No one said he was a particularly powerful newtype.
He's a Newtype he's just a shitty one. He wouldn't be able to sense anything or use a psychoframe if he wasn't.
A newtype just flew over my house
Isn't that profoundly sad? Even with the supernatural ability to connect with others, we still can't understand each other.
Why would understanding automatically lead to love?
True understanding IS acceptance
No it isn't. That's the dumbest fricking viewpoint ever. People clash not because of misunderstanding but because of direct, material competition.
Acceptance just means you aren't in denial.
moron
I can understand a person, but that doesn't mean I will agree with them. If a person says "Zeon dropped a colony on my house and killed my dog" and uses that as an excuse to gas colonies, I'll understand their reasoning and anger, but I'm still gonna get in my Rick Dias and shoot them.
Accept the beating with a dictionary
it do be like that sometimes
I think a lot of people confused "understanding each other" with "agreeing with each other." You can completely understand a person's background and motivations, but still absolutely find them repugnant or their ideals incompatible with your own. Just because the guy trying to chuck a colony was raped by someone he trusted when he was young and he's taking it out on everybody else doesn't justify his actions.
despite how long they knew one another Amuro was utterly perplexed by Char right before they both died
There was never understanding. In UC understanding only comes after you die and enter the afterlife orgy beyond the time
Char was very barely a newtype, that's why he had to wear that headgear in CCA to interface with the psycoframe while Amuro could do without it. He was so weak that while Amuro had to suffer Lalah teasing him for years, Char couldn't even hear her, and though Char met with Lalah well before Amuro did, both Lalah and Amuro formed a deeper connection than she and Char did, even though she and Amuro just met.
>I think a lot of people confused "understanding each other" with "agreeing with each other."
Exactly. Haman and Kamille understood each other just fine - Haman was pissed off because she didn't want that sort of intimacy with someone who she didn't know/respect/love as she was more or less saving her newtype hymen for Char. This is why Judau fricks her up so bad, because unlike Kamille, Judau is fire in tight pants.
What about Hathaway and Gigi?
that's the point, yes
Newtypes aren't going to solve all of humanity's woes by themselves, humanity needs to fix itself.
Only thing Newtypes ever really manage to somewhat fix are problems caused by Newtypes in the first place.
But why Full Frontal understand Banana and left to have newtype ghost orgy with Amuro and Lalah?
He was about to die so he was able to understand, that's the consistent theme of UC
The entire reason why Katz is able to convince Sarah to let Kamille kill the shit out of Scirocco is that once Scirocco dies he will enter the Newtype collective consciousness with all the other dead people - but as long as he's alive he will hurt people so it's better if Kamille kills him
Humans are bound to wage war against themselves. Connections with other humans are a hard thing to create, let alone maintain. Hatred however is simple to initiate and reinforce. That is Gundam's real truth.
True understanding is seeing Mt. Fuji with your own eyes
They understood each other perfectly fine. The big problem however is the realization that just because you UNDERSTAND someone doesn't mean you AGREE WITH or even LIKE them. Hell sometimes it's even the case that the more you understand someone the less you like them.
Also some people are just naturally buttholes that don't want to understand each other and actively enjoy hurting others.
It might hurt the ego but at the end of the day people really aren't that complicated no matter how much they try to say to the contrary. We're ultimately all people of needs and desires and those needs and desires can, if unaligned, can lead to uncompromising conflict.
Why should people's desires and needs be forcibly aigned?
Not saying they should.
That’s the point. We’re trapped in our own nepotism, fighting for ideals handed down to us. Even with perfect understanding we can’t forgive each other if it means letting go of our history
our way of communication might change but our nature wont.letters,the internet or even newtype powers...it doesnt matter.the feds/zion fighting a pacific war but in space was a more blatant way of showing that things dont really change.
Yeah that's kind of the point in Tomino's Gundams. Even expanding civilization into space and evolving into mindreading übermenschen doesn't magically solve the fundamental issues of human nature. If we can't change and learn to live in harmony on Earth then we're just doomed to repeat all the exact same mistakes but in space.
>If all of humanity moves into space they can understand one another after they become Newtypes and end conflict!
That was not true, moving into space didn't magically turn humans into Newtypes.
Understanding one another does not equal instant friendship and love. Still-
>Amuro and Char
They understood each other at the end of CCA
>Haman and Judau
They understood each other but Haman’s inability to let go of the rage inside of her meant that any further connection was impossible and she chose instead to die than fully accept her own failures
>Haman and Kamille
He fully looks into her heart and realises why she’s so bent out of shape but as we see with Judau’s case, she was a lost cause from the beginning
>Jerid and Kamille
Jerid is a weak newtype anyway and only manages to showcase some abilities when he gets the Baund Doc but by then, Kamille has no time for him and Jerid is too swallowed by rage and obsession to understand Kamille back. That’s why Kamille loses his shit after he kills him, because the whole battle is just utterly pointless
>Scirocco and Kamille
This is a funny case because Kamille absolutely understands Scirocco. It’s just Scirocco is an absolute massive bastard who gets off on controlling others. He can’t be left alive because all he’ll do is continue to ruin lives and lust for power and he’d be much better off in the newtype void where he can’t hurt anymore people
>Full Frontal and Banana
They understand each other in the end before they go beyond the time together and Amuro, Char and Lalah come to take him away
Someone realizes the point. Neither technological advancement nor evolution remove war and conflict as aspects of the human condition.
In many cases, they just make things worse.
>If all of humanity moves into space
This should be the premise for a Gundam series: all of humankind lives in space. Earth is abandoned to its own devices after (name your cataclysm).
Just because you understand someone doesn't mean you'll get along.
I'm sorry that went over your head. Also Einstein is a whiny b***h loser autist that couldn't understand other people which is why he thought understanding others is hard.
>All Newtypes, none of them were able to understand or accept one another in the end.
That's the point Unicorn and 00 misunderstood it.
00 didn't misunderstand it. If anything, it became clear to the MC that Ribbons and the A-Laws were the frickers that needed to be purged from the world to correct things. 00 didn't preach that peace would simply come to all people through understanding, but that peace can only be kept by understanding [the problems preventing peace and then dealing with them].
Hell, if we go by the original intended ending for MSG and Tomino's MSG novels, the ending that Tomino intended was that it was wrong for fellow newtypes to fight each other, instead they needed to take down the true cause of the war which was Ghiren and the Zabis.
>"Hayato was killed, but now you've got to help Char Aznable, Kai. You've got to look beyond the immediate tragedy or everyone will die. Gihren Zabi's the real enemy! then, after Gihren, Jaburo!"
>"Probably because you didn't have an amulet" T_T
>The amulet in question is a lock of Artemisia's pubic hair
Ah, the Gundam novels.
I think that's the Idea Anon.
Look at all the newtypes from the UC. You could say they are enlightened beings, capable of connecting with others, being able to pull off miracles, and reach a great understanding. However, they also suffer the most due to their heightened connection to other humans, and if they are soldiers fighting and killing others, they are bound to suffer and have mental trauma.
And even if newtypes with opposite ambitions and ideologies are able to understand each well, the only thing that changes is the understanding of other's way of thinking, which only adds to your detriment. People becoming newtype should prevent them from warring war against other newtypes, not to not be able to follow a conflict caused by oldtypes.
The only person who argued this was Zum Daikun and he was a lunatic.
It's funny that the actual newtype to end all conflict in the solar system wasn't one with fancy powers or anything. Loran just did his stuff like a regular pilot would and he managed to bring peace between the moonrace and earth
and Kamille
Haman's fault
and Judau
Kinda, in her last few moments she does actually also with Kamille in spirit(literally)
not a new type, Kamille actually forgives him a fair few times. Jerid just kept trying to be Kamille's competition until he literally kills himself by accident
and Kamille
literally irredeemable, he doesn't even get to have the chance like Haman does
Kamille and Jadau make bread with the enemy non-stop. It's why they get to have armies of newtype ghosts and projections to back them up. Also become invincible
and Char
End of MSG they do although Amuro didn't see any purpose to follow Char in ending the Zabis
Zeta they're on the level
CCA Char is having a midlife crisis and is resolute in forcing people off Earth
>Being a Newtype is the biggest meme in existence.
>Full Frontal and Banana
yes that's the point, Unicorn literally spells it out for you