If I have an actual criticism of this show and not just whining about dumb bullshit, it's that they do the thing a lot of TV shows like to do these days where they've got multiple main characters with their storylines running concurrently, which is not necessarily a problem but it hurts the pacing of the show when they just suddenly cut to some other dude's plot partway through the first episode instead of having the viewer's first exposure to the surface world be at the same time as Lucy's. I feel like if you must have multiple protagonists, it's better to focus on one character at a time, and have the entire episode be dedicated to that character, instead of jumping around constantly.
Everything you consider whining is legitimate criticism, you're in denial and need to develop better tastes if you want people to respect you.
Criticism focused on how Oh no, she kisses the black guy, and how her eyes are too big, is indeed just whining about dumb bullshit actually.
Why? black people are unpleasant and she is ugly. Fixing those issues would make the show better.
That's just textbook narcissism
>me right you wrong kys
You need to develop your way of thinking to be more precise about things that actually matter.
Because anyone who isn't a moron should be judging media on it's own merits of writing itself free from your own personal political/religious/social/ideological biases.
Imagine if the 7th Seal or Godfather or Yojimbo or some other great movie used dogs instead of humans as the actors on screen but every other aspect of the movie was the exact same, would you now say that the movie is suddenly shit?
The plot's the same, dialogue the same, cinematography the same, everything the same, surely you wouldn't just say it's bad now and just write off everything you liked about it just because it uses dogs now.
You might personally dislike the choice artistically or even think there was some agenda behind it, but if the core of the movie is what you liked, you'd still like the movie.
Your personal like or aversion to the style or casting of the movie shouldn't be anything other than a surface level dislike that won't cloud your enjoyment or hate of something.
Black folk/troons/women are the same.
If when the LOTR movies came out they were literally all Black folk and no whites, I'd personally dislike that choice and view it as a negative stylistically and aesthetically, however if the plot/dialogue/cinematography and everything else was the exact same I would literally still love the movie because the core of it is still there, the central aspects of the narrative are still present and that's all that should matter.
Good visuals and casting are always a positive, however personal dislikes never take away from my overall experience.
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so you want each character getting a humilitation ritual , got it
Everyone in that show is a racemixing prostitute
When I was in college o almost exclusively hooked up with drunk sheboons and I wore absolutely no condoms. I often wonder how many half breed offspring I have in the world
The multiple plotlines are necessary, without them neither the vault not the Brotherhood would be fleshed out if it was just from Lucy's perspective.
It doesn't help when they offer up garbage like Maximus as a protagonist. The actor has no charisma, the character couldn't get laid in a prostitute house with a fistful of twenties, and he's just plain fricking boring.
the brotherhood of steel guy is one of the most unlikable characters in recent memory, the show has a lot of weird decisions with its shots, the show at times feels like a theme park that just needs to get to the next attraction rather than tell a story or let the characters grow, the meta line about side quests was cringe. those are most of my complaints about it just as a show, not attached to the games
attached to the games? i think it is boring and lazy to literally nuke the semblance of civilization that grew in order to ensure everyone lives like medieval peasants so they can intermingle ideas between fallout and elder scrolls
I groaned every time it switched back to that piece of shit's story. He's enough of a issue to ruin this show single handedly. And he's hardly the only annoying choice. "Dane" is fricking ABSURD, but I couldnt get past episode two because of Maximus.
Maximus fricking sucks, yup. DO not doubt people will say you hate him just because he is black, my advice? talk about the black actors/characters you liked in severance, true kino.
Yeah severance was better you're right about that! Better casting and writing.
and cinematography and set design, better craftsmanship all around, better message too probably. I LOVE SEVERANCE
Once I figured out that his character has a 2 Charisma and low speech, I learned to accept him. Seriously, he ends up just killing people because he talks like an imbecile. This is the typical play through must of us have with the game anyway.
Tell me brehs, does Todd make a cameo at least?
The ghoul guy’s last name is Howard
yes there is a blatant self insert
>no vault 33 chess club
>takes a photo of his whole OS and video player instead of just taking a screenshot from the actual video
that might be blowing the load early then if you only have eight episodes and have to play catch up with the later season episodes. plenty of shows do an A - B plotline progression and the reason they feel so smooth usually is because of proper time allocation.
Don’t remember if they cut to brotherhood of steal guy in first episode but I would do
>keep Cooper experience the nukes dropping as intro (10/10) intro
>then the vault stuff until she leaves the vault
>once she’s out in the wasteland you’re free to jump between characters
>10/10 intro
>little niglet stares directly at a nuclear detonation and doesn't get blinded
>no one else notices the flash from the bomb
lol. lmao, even.
The way it focused on that little black girl within 3 mins of the show starting made me groan
The way no one else in the room noticed the flash confused me too.
But not getting blinded by the detonation is easy to explain away, it was on the other side of the large city center vs that house, so the cluster of tall buildings would have obstructed the most intense direct light
Nukes airburst above city skyline
Coop also walked out with the cake and didn't notice anything until she mentioned it.
The nuke exploded in slow motion for some reason as well.
I can overlook it though, Fallout has never been realistic in it's depiction of nukes or radiation effects.
>keep Cooper experience the nukes dropping as intro (10/10) intro
>10/10
That scene was absolutely moronic.
I still think Vault Tec's motivations make no sense.
brand loyalty and controlling a monopoly
A monopoly on what? Technology? The BoS and Enclave are just as advanced as they are, and the Institute is even more advanced.
What worth has money when you inherit a wasteland
They don't usually make sense in the games either.
>I still think Vault Tec's motivations make no sense.
They never did long before this show. Even in the first games where you start to learn about their social experiments, the less it seems like them trying to "examine human nature" and more like them fricking around with any extra budget money they had.
That would actually make sense comparing to nuking the world
They're evil and insane
its millennial writing. Its because they are big evil capitalists who like money!!
they will reveal in season 2 that the black woman was working for enclave
because todd howard.
Bethesda never ran with this explicitly but I like Timothy Cain's explanation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWd4RBdeoaM
He's the original creator of Fallout, he made the first game. Also made VTMB, very based
This would be too good of a setting to be used by the show or the games
>I feel like if you must have multiple protagonists, it's better to focus on one character at a time
No. that's what TWD did. They would dedicate 1 episode to 1 storyline, it made it to where you had to wait for 2-4 episodes to come back to that original storyline. People hated this.
I think it's much better to weave multiple stories into a single episode. If done properly it can flow very smoothly.
Maximus is supposed to be an unlikable butthole. He's petty, vindictive, bitter and stupid but he tries to be a better person and deliver the goods at the end when he tries to save Lucy.
>he tries to be a better person
this is honestly debatable
>tries to save
Maximus fails at everything he tries to do. He's incompetence and irredeemable.
His arc is either that he goes from a useless dork to a hero, or becomes an actual villain.
>or becomes an actual villain
I hope its this.
He's already the villain of the show in my eyes because he's the one keeping me from enjoying it
>He's incompetence and irredeemable.
Probs to the actor because he was so fricking pathetic
I just miss the NCR, man. It's bad enough that they were offscreened but to die at the hands of Vault-Tec like 200 years after their supposed relevancy expired? I honestly would have preferred the Legion overrunning them, at least that would have felt a little less contrived.
They're not done yet, this show could end with Lucy rebuilding the NCR and destroying the Brotherhood for all we know.
Would Lucy even be interested in that? There's probably enough remnants to reestablish them yeah but Lucy didn't seem to want to go that far.
Really the only way she's motivated to do that is if she gets into direct conflict with the BoS.
I don't think she'll be that welcome back in vault 33 when she pops back in. A common theme in Fallout is the vault dweller being banished after being on the surface so long. I could see her shutting down the evil experiment going on and take the other vault dwellers to the surface to rebuild NCR.
>Lucy gets to New Vegas/Mojave
>meets up with remnant Desert Rangers
>becomes inspired to help restore the NCR
There's clearly no shortage of soldiers who still care anyways.
>I just miss the NCR, man.
NCR are homosexuals.
Cope
Ncr rangers mog
The woman fricks a Black person in the first 20 minutes, garbage goyslop television show for stupid piggy goyim to indulge in
She doesn't though, you mind broke homosexual
Why would someone do that, just go on the internet and tell lies?
Leave us fallout fans alone. We just wanna watch bbc porn in peace
No, she fricks the raider.
So why did they reintroduce the Enclave for them to do nothing?
The cutaway shots to Maximus’s face inside the helmet making those moronic smug expressions are the cherry on top of me hating him.
>Episode 2
>Scientist dodges 1,000 bullets
>In a massive and endless wilderness, the scientist immediately stumbles upon Lucy
>BoS Knight randomly decides to stop the Vertibird in the middle of nowhere because he's "bored and wants to shoot something" and immediately finds a tin can, which the Squire magically determines is from the Scientist
>This scene then serves zero purpose as the Scientist is found in the town later anyway
Anyone that enjoys this shit has no fricking brain.
Yeah the way all the main characters just happen to run into each other within the first couple of episodes felt pretty cheap. Kind of renders the many shots of vast desert landscapes pointless if the world is actually a tiny ass place dont it?
It's Fanservice the show.
You watch because it's Fallout, not because the plot or writing makes any sense.
No one really 'roots' for any of these characters to succeed.
Cowboy ghoul shoots tons of people, tortures kids. Cool. You feel sorry for his pre-War self, but are you really rooting for him to find his Black person kid now?
Maximus is...what? His journey is to bumble around and almost get publicly executed for his idiocy. And his troony friend almost gets him killed through a stupid promotion gambit that fails anyway.
Lucy the Frog's journey is to find her dad. Okay. Found. Ohhh, now her dad's EVIL. At least she's more hardened now.
I rooted for mini-Goebbels the most, as his goals had the biggest benefit for the people he loved.
>Cowboy ghoul shoots tons of people, tortures kids. Cool. You feel sorry for his pre-War self, but are you really rooting for him to find his Black person kid now?
And his Black person sociopath wife is evil. Don't care if she lives or dies.
Don't give a shit about the kid either. No special bond exists. She's just some kid. His journey should be to kill all the Manager israelites, especially his wife.
Isnt she the old black woman in the vault? They are both called bethy...
Honestly I hope it's a Shaun situation where the evil wife is dead, but the daughter was frozen and grew up to be just like her evil mom.
Then the ghoul blows her brains out. The consequences of mudsharking.
I don’t understand the brotherhood in this show. In New Vegas they were a defeated army hiding from the NCR and now they are the dominant force all of a sudden with fricking airships and vertibirds?
It's anti-white propaganda
Is it? The most evil character in the entire show, with the most blood directly on her hands and the most sinister openly stated goals, is a black woman.
All the black characters are bad guys.
That the showrunners let frick white people
Racemixing agenda
The only person to have sex on screen is the white chick with a white guy. The black dude is explicitly stated to be a virgin.
Why do you shills keep bringing up this point? Black panther had black bad guys too it doesn’t mean shit. It’s a dead ends counter that doesn’t refute anything.
not valid
It's simple. I see a Black person, I don't watch.
I hope they fricking cancel this show
It's steadily growing in popularity so you can expect news about season 2 soon.
>If I have an actual criticism of this show and not just whining about dumb bullshit
If only all critique not your own could be so easily and off-handedly dismissed without actual engagement. At any rate, I see the threads are still non stop and still start with some form of bait that gains the thread traction. Wonder how long these discussions will go on for when they usually play out the same way.
the awful rope cgi makes me laugh every single time
The action is fricking kino and i'm tired of pretending it's not.
Why does the 2nd from last guy react to the bullet before it hits him
Could be a frick up, but I thought it was him trying to step back to avoid the bullet
>i'm tired of pretending it's not
well certainly no one was asking you to pretend otherwise. for all the people who talk about having seen the show, I have seen very few clips posted. not too much talk about the what exactly was enjoyed about the show either, which would be more interesting than just hearing 'yeah it was awesome'.
One of the reasons I just don’t watch tv series anymore. The pacing is always fricking terrible. It’s constantly cucking you to drag the show out.
It's goyslop, 100% fan service and subversion to go along with it. Multiple plot holes. The main characters always happen to bump into each other making the world feel small. No interesting plotlines. It's visually amazing but that's it.
Lucy should kill herself
I liked it, but the ending felt i donnu unsatisfying, they should have gotten more time spent on the climax
spent the whole show looking up ella Purnells nudes and jerking off to her sad breasts & bikini pics.
then I watched a bunch of nice MRE reviews
get fricked globohomo
>my social media fried brain wouldn't let me focus enough to form an opinion so I gave in and consooooomed
Stop browsing Cinemaphile with your hand down your pants you fricking loser. Go jack off and come back when you've decided you actually like watching TV.
>enjoy your goyslop
I don't think the show is that great either, but you're just another level of mind broken
If you’re actually expecting shows to display your idea of extreme “basedness” then you can’t watch ANYTHING, because ***literally nothing will be that extreme.*** You have to LITERALLY be moronic to expect a TV show made for general audiences to display the extremist values of the fricking KKK
What you SHOULD be looking for is simply a higher level of quality. THAT is a fair barometer to look for. And there’s a lot of bullshit out there that is absolutely trash, like Disney Marvel capeshit.
Which is why it’s so significant when a show with ACTUAL quality comes along. Like Fallout. I was legitimately shocked by how well written and well performed it was. I had almost forgotten what “quality” felt like on screen.
If you want an example of a “woke” garbage show, watch fricking She-Hulk on Disney Plus. Or any number of other dumpster fire shows.
And you know what? Compared to shows that are ACTUALLY woke, Fallout was NOT woke. It wasn’t preachy, it didn’t promote any political narrative, and it wasn’t pushing ideology or “the Message.”
All it did was focus on telling a fricking story. Three interwoven stories, in fact, following incredible and unique and original characters that genuinely grab your interest. And it’s been a while since I’ve seen anything, especially in modern times, that JUST cared about telling a story.
So if you want to miss out on it because six or seven schitzo autists sperging on Cinemaphile told you to, that’s fine. But just know that you’re being an absolute dumbfrick to listen to them rather than form your own opinion, and that you’re missing out on a legitimately great show.
looks too american (pozzed and gay)
>woman is constantly asking people for sex and talking about pregnancy shit
>fricks almost no one and doesn’t get pregnant, isn’t a single mother at the start of the show either because she didn’t suddenly just become like this
This is the most unrealistic thing in the entire show
Bizarre take
How is it bizarre? That’s literally how shit works. Why do you think there’s so many single moms right now?
What’s bizarre is thinking unprotected sex with the intention to make children would not result in children. Unless this b***h is sterile and somehow doesn’t know it then it just doesn’t make sense
I've come to really hate people with this mindset. They take some superficial information about a character or person and then their brain fills in a complete profile like an ai working off a prompt. This then becomes that person's personal truth.
>superficial
>is the most common thing about her is to talk about sex and sperm counts and shit
>it’s bad to criticize this aspect of her
Get fricked shill.
Okay guy, I'm sold. I believe that this is a genuine grievance you have. You want her to have been introduced as already pregnant, or? Can you elaborate?
I said it was the most unrealistic thing in the show. Did you not read my previous posts or are you pretending you didn’t?
If you're okay with saying something moronic and refusing to elaborate, that's fine. I'm only saying that if you're trying to make a point (or troll effectively) you might want to explain yourself a little better.
>knowyourmeme didn't teach me how to apply them organically
I still love you anon
>moron literally doesn’t read people’s posts where they already elaborated
>invokes some meme website that they probably regularly visit while projecting that the other person totally was doing that and not them
I knew you were a homosexual but I didn’t know you were a redditarded homosexual. Your tactics are too obvious.
You are arguing that the character lucy should be pregnant by default, or that pregnancy should be a core theme of the show? I'm sorry, could you please highlight the post where you explained this well? I re read the thread but must have missed the post with a fully formed thought in it
No, I’m saying if yo user going to make that a main aspect of their personality you better be prepared to actually deal with that issue in a realistic way. It’s called writing your character and developing them, if you cannot do it or it’s something you don’t want to deal with then don’t make it part of their personality or else you’ve ruined your own character from the get go and invented a problem that didn’t exist had you not done that.
Yeah bro I'm sure that will never come up again
It’s already an issue homosexual. Don’t make your main character a sex and breeding obsessed white if you can’t realistically play that out.
No one who has had sex would sperg out like this. The show makes a couple off hand jokes about breeding to explain how the vaults sustain themselves and possibly set up future plot lines.
Out of curiosity, how old would you have been in 2016?
>no one cares about personality traits in a character being used realistically
This is how you get the moronic marvel cinematic universe we have right now
>how old would have been in 2016?
What kind of moronic real question is this? Do you mean “How old were you in 2016?”? Learn how to speak English, Black person.
Whelp once they get to the pendantic grammar gayging phase I have to tap out. Sorry you were unable to express your opinion well enough to generate conversation. Hopefully that other thread takes off for you
You tried to insult me and used horrible grammar to do so and now YOU’RE offended for me mocking that? Lol what a fsggot
kek only a genuine esl would take issue with that phrasing
If you talk like a Black person your opinion is discarded. There are no exceptions.
The phrasing is incorrect and anon is correct in calling him out. It should read, "How old were you in 2016?".
Honestly at the rate language is deteriorating your whole generation should be considered esl.
>your whole generation
I'm 40. The people I hear speaking poorly are generally in their late 20s and younger. I was doing yard work the other day and some kids rode by on their bicycles listening to shitty mumble rap. Overheard one of them say, "Im not losin' no chill over some adult!"
"How old would you have been in 2016?" Is the most picket fence cracker way he could have asked that.
>muh mumble rap
kys tryhard
>picket fence cracker way he could have asked that.
That is neither a Black person way nor a cracker way. It is a moron way.
>tryhard
Mumble rap is garbage, as is pretty much all rap. homosexual.
esl homosexual
Pool’s closed.
The vaults are a cult, especially 32/33. So yes likely people are indoctrinated into how sex and reproduction works in order to prevent overpopulation of the vault.
>personal truth
Only workers and DEI shills unironically use terms like these. Way to out yourself homosexual
r/wooosh
>I was only pretending to be moronic
Frick off moron.
the west...
has fallen
Now apply this to Cinemaphile where most people haven't even seen the yt video and are copying each other's shit posts
>people haven't
I feel like I am not talking to people half the time, just some stupid machine that marketing department clobbered together to promote their vomit in "guerrilla marketing" or whateverthefrick they call it these days.
ESL Black folk pls go
Yeah, now it's just narcissistic teenagers that think everyone but them is an NPC and thats somehow real criticism against anything and everything.
>My IDEA of what this piece of media is, is bad, and you're an NPC for having watched it and formed an actual opinion
Say Black person and prove you aren’t some paid shill. We need to start filtering these paid concern trolls
frick you, Black person.
Good you aren’t a shill but still a massive homosexual
>have the first BoS Knight introduced be a giant vegana who dies in his first fight
Lmao based, frick Brotherhood of homosexuals
It should have started with Lucy wandering to Vault City, thinking life isn’t so bad since that’s one of the many locations where humanity has rebuilt itself. And then she quickly breaks one of the laws and they exile in her into the wastes
Read a book dumbass.
I never played the game but I decided to check out the show. I always thought the Brotherhood of Steel had really cool armor. However I have to ask, are they always portrayed as fricking losers? Because the show does not make them look cool at all.
The brotherhood of steel has always been a tech hoarding cult. They might help out a group or settlement but if said settlement had tech they wanted it would be taken by force. They are essentially raiders with a clean shiny coat of paint on them. They aren’t inherently good boys
no, They used to be respectable, later changed into cowards and weaklings that get wiped by NCR conscripts with single shot rifles
It's a mixed bag. Each chapter of the BoS are fairly distinct from each other and Fallout has never had a shortage of incompetent stooges. The characters we've been shown are on brand.
pretty much, Enclave are the chad tech users
The first encounter with the brotherhood is two knights telling the vault dweller to frick off and die on a suicide mission because he’s annoying to them. Fallout 3 is the only one where the chapter is essentially heretical to the core tenants of the faction
no its not. Intercom tells him to go on suicide mission. Knights tell him to take radaway and about the danger
Point being they fully expect you to not succeed. They aren’t introduced as a group that wants to deal with every pissant who comes there way.
It's a Western. The entire point is going between the characters to see how the characters are going to converge and conflict with each other over the object they are all heading towards (the head).
tired of people crying about this show and then it turns out they didn't even watch it, they just watched some YouTube video about it by some homosexual zoomer with a speech impediment whose sole purpose is to shit on newer fallout games
Outside of the first episode the show becomes an absolute slog whenever Goggins isn't the focus, episodes 5-6 were really boring and the finale was kinda meh, but it looks like Goggins will continue to be the focus next season so I have that to look forward too, I guess.