If I want to get into Go Nagai's 70s Super Robot works (Mazinger, Getter Robo, Steel Jeeg, Groizer X, etc.) is it better to read the manga or watch the Toei anime? The manga versions appeal the most to me because they're shorter and I imagine they stick more to whatever his creative vision was, but I'm sure the anime have their own merits too.
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Do both you stupid Black person
Just do it you moron
>waaaah reading comics and watching cartoons so hard please gimme a guide!!!!
dumb frick
Honestly the manga kinda sucks, Nagai didn't really give a shit about Mazinger. All his energy was focused on Devilman at the time
The Toei staff took his barebones manga and turned them into classics
Cool, thanks, I'll check out the anime.
I’ve hard way better things about Gosaku Ota’s manga, sure would be nice if it HAD FRICKING RIPS!
It has rips but there’s no translation. I’ve read the Great Mazinger one in English and it pretty good. Grendizer is good too but you can tell Ota wasn’t a big fan of Duke Fleed and just wanted Koji as the protagonist.
Care to link those rips then?
Ota's Grendizer is translated, Ota's Great has rips, but all I can find for Ota's Z is the first chapter in English & a VERY sloppy French translation of the first couple volumes.
Nagai mangas are fine for Mazinger, Getter Robo's great and you were given the reading order, Toei show's surprisingly good so far and it's been recommended over the 7ep Mazinkaiser OVA which you can still watch to get the spirit of Mazinger in a very condensed form. Shin Mazinger is also a great remake. For Getter, Getter Robo Armageddon, New Getter Robo, and Shin Getter Robo vs Neo Getter Robo are must-watch as well.
Theoretically going to machine-translate Z and Great at some point (English scantlations exist for Grendizer).
https://mangatoto.com/series/20618
https://mangadex.org/title/4dded426-fe3d-4d7c-a1f1-7168e6f7d83c/great-mazinger?tab=chapters
I have Mazinger Z volumes 1-4 in Italian and 5 in French, and saved the individual pages for all 4 volumes of Great, I'm uploading that to a mega. Including the machine-scantlated chapters for Great but it's hilariously garbage (picrel).
>have to upload individual pages to get images converted into text
>then go over that and put the text in the proper order and fix spelling mistakes
>then translate that from Euro into English and reword poor translations
>then somehow scantlate
I have 4 chapters of translated text and 1 chapter of Italian text, what an ordeal.
Someone's translated some Mazinkaiser mangas, that anon should be around somewhere
>Nagai mangas are fine for Mazinger
Why are you lying?
I'm sorry
What? For Z? Oop, I saw the thumbnail and uploaded the wrong file, my mistake. The folder should have French vol5 separately now, vol 1-4 Italian is uploading right now, while I got rid of the incomplete Euro zip. The Z stuff was a b***h to find bc the French site had dead links and I had to ask an Italian in Italy to search for vol1-4. Think it might be easier to translate from Italian to English since it's Latin-based and I've retained very little of French.
No lie there m8
>mangas
https://mega.nz/folder/Vw8yxJxZ#OEr8oelwQW_QqFv5uRLnng
>Z in Italian and French
>Great in French and Google English
>Mazinger Z BDs (Ota?) whatever these are in Spanish and Google English
You may have the 2021 French(?) Grendizer comic in English also:
https://mega.nz/folder/E5FEyaSQ#jodyMDLITrp5Zk6cWnICqw
I'm afraid that French 5th volume is just 1 chapter.
Still though, thanks a million, hopefully the full 5th volume exists somewhere.
Vol 1-4 and vol5 uploaded!
*mangai
My bad, I'm hungry and tired
I absolutely can not thank you enough.
It was an ordeal and the only stuff in archives was anons pointing to the difficult French scans website, it's not something I'd want people to go through. I only wish I had vol5 and Great in Italian since it's easier to work with. Here's hoping I can get any work done at all for this, apparently this trilogy has actual continuity, so I really don't want me or anyone to read Grendizer before enjoying Z and Great! I just wish there was an easier way to pull the text from pages without having to add pages individually or have to reorganize the text order.
Alternatively, if you think the google scantlated stuff is fine I can try putting Z through it also, picrel again.
Also I'm legitimately tempted to keep in some dogshit like "FRICK BY KENZO KABUTO" and the last two panels for poor Gorgon, there's something endearing about it the same way as "Age of Fatso" and Duwang. Also a bit worried about paraphrasing things TOO much and accidentally taking liberties, and rewording every bit of dialogue to suit the character's voice and context seems like legitimately too much work... I just want it to be grammatically legible and just be able to strain through these good stories. Think vol5 has like, Dr Hell's origins, and Great has a Mazinger army of Greats, lots of exciting things to get to!
I found Japanese raw rips of Great, gonna upload them to Archive along with the Italian/French Z & the Spanish Mazinger comics.
I'm an amateur manga translator so I absolutely can't wait to get to these!
Wait, are you Mazinkaisanon
You/anon did translations for sth Kaiser-related but I wasn't keeping up and I lost them
>tfw can just wait and trusty anon will do the work
>tfw it'll be non-chronological, again
Nah, I've been translating toku manga so far, specifically Daiji Kazumine's adaptions of Spectreman & Denjin Zaborger.
The former I've been doing for nearly a year, https://mangadex.org/title/a481c2f1-3774-44f1-b797-73ffebca1bfe/space-ape-gori-vs-spectreman
& the latter I've only just started. https://mangadex.org/title/0318551d-9498-4a7c-9ada-166ca0ea9921/denjin-zabogar
I've made it explicitly clear at the beginning of those translations that I AM NOT A PROFESSIONAL.
& if you're at all interested in reading, the earlier chapters of Spectreman can be pretty rough presentation-wise but I swear I've improved.
At any rate I can't wait to do Ota's Mazingers once I'm done with either one of my current projects.
Btw here's an Archive upload with those European Z rips, Japanese Great rips, & the Spanish comics.
https://archive.org/details/otamazinger
>toku
I like robots more, but good on you, anon! Thank you for the good work!
>I AM NOT A PROFESSIONAL
Wrestler?
Keep us posted on Mazinger though, I want to read it soon...
>going over individual pages and text means that I'll be spoiled on each chapter's contents while losing any of the impact of the story
>have to space things out so I forget about the story and thus don't "spoil" anything for myself
Scantlation shouldn't be a one-man job..
>manga or anime
both
The manga literally ends with the characters telling you to watch the anime instead
Read Getter Robo in the order below, do whatever with the rest.
Getter Robo
Getter Robo G
Getter Robo Go
Shin Getter
Getter Arc
No. Stop at Go. It’s much better that way, the rest is all padding.
Actually you should just skip the first five volumes of Go since those are all padding
Ask him to skip G as well while you’re at it. It’s just padding with almost identical yet boring new villains.
Only homosexuals skip.
Yeah, manly men hop.
I've been told that the chapter order on the version of Nagai's Mazinger manga available in English is totally fricked, this true?
No, in the sense that's it's standard version that's been printed since the 1970s
Yes, in the sense that it combines and rearranges both of Nagai's Mazinger serializations
The Mazinger Z manga is an enjoyable little romp to familiarize yourself with what Mazinger's all about. It's not as good as most of the other incarnations of the series, but it's a solid starting point.
Black person.
We do NOT use that word here.
Racism is bad
>racial slur has been up for over a week
The absolute FRICKING state of the jannies
Man, Ota is REALLY great with expressions!
Why, what happened
Nothing, I just went through Ota’s Mazinger manga & noted that he’s really great with expressions.
Ken Ishikawa made Getter Robo. Even in death buttholes like you ignore his existence.
Just watch the anime.
So I know the version of Nagai's manga available in English combines and rearranges both the original Shounen Jump version & the TV Magazine versions,
I've heard alot of people say this is a problem, so as much as I'm gonna hate using these words, does anyone know a "reading order" if you just want the Shounen Jump version?
Mazinger Z: watch the anime AND read the manga
Great Mazinger: Skip the anime and read the manga because it's too childish and generic.
Grendizer: watch the anime and skip the manga because it's unfinished and the art is terrible
Getter Robo: It has one canon, the mangas. You can watch the Toei anime and OVAs at your pace since they aren't related to the manga and aren't connected (except the 70s Getter and Getter G)
>Great Mazinger: it's too childish and generic.
oops, I meant this for the anime, not the manga.
The Grendizer manga is great, don't listen to moronic dagos, frogs or towelheads and their nostalgia
The Ota one? Yes, it is. The Nagai one is pure garbage though
The Nagai Great Mazinger manga is boring, generic and childish, so your argument makes no sense whatsoever
You've said your piece. Stop spamming.
Just want to help OP to not make a stupid decision based on some moronic opinions in this thread.
Then don't post.
Nah, not while we’re getting dogshit opinions such as
Different opinions are allowed, stop being a little sperg and stop spamming.
As long as they’re decent opinions i.e. not schizo ones
Yeah this
is pretty schizo.
Agree'd.
>Don’t watch A because it’s generic and childish
>Read B instead because it’s generic and childish
That’s a schizo opinion
ZING
>is it better to read the manga or watch the Toei anime?
They are distinct enough to warrant going for both. Specially Koji and Sayaka´s relationship, which is RADICALLY different between both versions (in the manga they are more lovey dovey while in the anime they literally throw furniture at each other)
More like in the manga their relationship is non-existent until they see each other naked and suddenly they’re a couple, sort of. But they have no personality anyway.
Blatant lie, frick off moron shitposter.
I like it when they're being cute
For Mazinger watch the Toei anime
The Shin Mazinger reboot by Imagawa has a lot of manga scenes and is also good
For Getter read the manga first before watching any TV or OVA
honestly the 70s getter series are kinda shit