>If the DP doesn't really know what the background looks like he or she can't light it properly. So that's why a lot of these big science fiction and fantasy movies... they have this kind of generic bluescreen/greenscreen lighting where you can see everything. Ultimately, when the background is married with the foreground in post-production, they don't really match because there's no lighting scheme that is on the foreground and background simultaneously, because the backgrounds are created after the fact. So you become increasingly aware that it's actors in front of a bluescreen. And even if you have all the money in the world you can't integrate them properly.
>-Paul W.S. Anderson
In case you were wondering why FURIOSA sucks visually.
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already braced for it to flop and it be blamed on sexism because girls deserved a turn with mad max too
I don't understand, why is the fricking saturation so high again? George made Fury Road with his stupid tinted glasses on and then when he remembered to take them off he said "oh frick" and panicked, putting out the black and white as a knee jerk. But then this comes out and the colors are even more fruity, like some shitty uploaders on youtube who run scenes of real life or movies through LUTs so that dirty air at the enypt pyramics becomes blue (and so does everything else that was white) or all the shirts of the matrix agents become blue. This fricking random guy's eyes in the trailer are all glowing blue like some egirl on her stream. Why does george fall for these cheap tricks? Not to mention Teal and fricking Orange movie in 2023. film makers called george who had hits in the 70s... are a bad bet
His inspiration was Zack Snyder for this film.
Lose weight Gunnjeet
He literally got the cinematographer who did 300 part 2
ok i watched the rest of the trailer and its a fury road sequel is why. So he's decided to do all the same shit from that even if was bad, for thematic consistency. That fricking day for night blue shit again. Well all you 20 somethings will probably love this one too lol
Miller's old dp retired. This is the guy who shot The Great Gatsby.
For real? That explains why it looks so ghastly then. At what point in production do you realise all your footage looks like a shitty videogame and is barely, if at all, salvageable?
Miller doesn't care, he literally wears Rose-tinted glasses and can't see shitness
>this kind of... lighting where you can see everything
Is he saying that like it's a bad thing?
Yes, because in times like OPs pic that means that stuff like changing landscapes or more specifically a giant fireball don’t seem to change the lighting any. They’re lighting everything so now nothing looks like it’s being illuminated by something
Basically, the best way to light a scene like this is to carefully choreograph everything and commit to it.
So for example, that explosion to hemsworth's right? There should be a matching light source on the set when they shoot Hemsworth. Instead, they just shoot Hemsworth in neutral lighting and try to glue everything together in post.
To be fair, sometimes artists do a pretty decent job but the whole thing works a lot better if you plan ahead. Think back to Zack Snyder demanding he be allowed to shoot Dr Manhattan's actor with a blue LED suit so that the scenes would have a blue glow instead of having to entirely add it in post.
There's a second part to the OP quote:
>Once you shoot deep shadow on the side of somebody's face, you can't come back from that. If there's no detail on that side of the face, you can't suddenly go, "Oh, we've changed our minds now it's gonna be a little front-lit, he's not gonna be in an overpass, he's gonna be more outside with more sunlight on him."
That's the reason why so many movies have shit neutral lighting that they try to juice up in post. Because they're too scared to say, "Okay, so the sun is definitely on this side, the fireball definitely occurs on this side, etc."
Remember this iconic shot from the first Transformers movie? This was created by shooting her on a greenscreen, but they had a light source where the sun was going to be, and passed a physical barrier, like a piece of plywood, over her head as the camera panned, simulating how they thought Optimus's shadow would look passing over her. Immediately made the shot feel real.
A lot of modern film VFX has fricky lighting. And as
notes part of this issue is that there's a new DP working on the film. The DP and the VFX team working together is quite important. And this reeks of a DP who doesn't really know what they're doing wheras the Mad Max 4 one hid the problems better.
extremely informative and kino
Did you know that Fury Road CGed Max's ear for life half the movie? Because in the original footage he used an earpiece to silence the voices in his head. Audiences didn't "get" this plot point, so it was removed and they gave Tom Hardy a CG ear for every scene where he originally wore an earpiece.
What's interesting is that despite having a frickload of CG most people didn't notice in Fury Road. Here, they are very much noticing. I'm getting some Ultraviolet vibes, myself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XesfcoUP7P0
this is why directors need to have good knowledge of VFX. If they don't then you end up with shit like cats where they simply shot it like a normal movie then handed it to the VFX monkeys and said "now make them cats". It never works.
Just look at The Creator; mediocre movie but it looked absolutely incredible, especially when you see that it had a budget of only $80mil, because Gareth Edwards has a background in VFX work.
>but it looked absolutely incredible
I feel like I'm being gaslit when people talk about that movie. It didn't look good, it looked brown and grainy.
nothing to do with the VFX.
> brown and grainy.
did you get the YIFY release?
No, but I guess you did.
Get the 4K version and you'll see plenty of grain, poorgay who can't afford a 4K screen.
randomly, an afro
The title drop is so awkward
Or you can just match the CGI's lighting to the scenery like in Del Taco and Snyder's films
Snyder has huge problems with consistency. Sometimes he does a good job, other times the CG backgrounds look like a videogame.
your mother
The Flash tier
never has a trailer killed my hype for a movie this badly. it's so sad man, Fury Road is a masterpiece.
God unemployed filmschool graduates are so annoying
PWSA never actually went to a proper film school, although he did a bachelor in film. That's why he doesn't really know how to write dialogue or direct actors. But he has a very good grasp of visuals.
>Once you shoot deep shadow on the side of somebody's face, you can't come back from that. If there's no detail on that side of the face, you can't suddenly go, "Oh, we've changed our minds now it's gonna be a little front-lit, he's not gonna be in an overpass, he's gonna be more outside with more sunlight on him."
Pic related is a good example of this. A lot of CG-heavy movies lack light/dark contrast. They might have dark scenes, but the dark scenes are too dark. They don't have enough strong directional lighting. It's all very "we'll fix it in post" and they never actually fix it in post. They're scared to commit to a lighting scheme because modern film production is so reshoot and rework happy.
It looks good in 4K on an OLED.
don't care, I watch for she.
you are sick in the head. go outside.
>Post-buccal
meh
Yes, but in this case you don't even need to dig that deep. The background itself and the vehicles in the background look like a quick 3D render.
Someone tried to make it with a lowball VFX company bid from India, or something. Jesus.
the reflection of the main tank just being 'ground down, sky up' reminds me of how you draw chrome when they teach you technical drawing in high school, or metal reflections how they did it in the mid 90s with just a texture that gets mapped by angle eg metal mario. But george wouldn't be doing 90s cgi on purpose for nostalgia.. he's from the 70s
we still have daily threads about The Phantom Menace
when was the last time you saw regular Gangs of New York threads?
we have capeshit threads more than anything else, that must mean they're the height of cinema
>a homosexual cried
I am SHOCKED
>comparing Griffith to literally anything else in cinema
Weird how we get a salient observation on how many VFX scenes suck from Paul WS Anderson of all people, but he's right.
Paul has made some genuine kino; Mortal Kombat, Event Horizon, and the first Resident Evil. He'd know a thing or two about moviemaking.
I'd say The Creator is a better example. It has better visual effects than movies with two or three times its production budget.
The creator SUCKS and is UGLY
Theron can be badass. ATJ isn;t.
the way she said i am furiosa in the trailer was comedically noncomittal
LAYDEE AND GENTLEMENS
I'm choosing to believe that Miller made this film as a frick you to WB for israeliteing him out of his bonus situation
>$160m franchise revival movie with fantastic reviews and reception, amazing stuntwork, practical effects and action and energy, beloved MC played by a marketable actor didn't manage to make a profit?
>ok I'll make another one 8 YEARS LATER, a PREQUEL, for a SIDE CHARACTER WOMAN, with a MEME ACTRESS, using DISGUSTING CGI OVERLOAD. with SHITTY LIGHTING and will SPEND 50% MORE MONEY to film it
WB is moronic lol